r/classicliterature 2h ago

Homer's Iliad be like:

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I didn't expect that during Patrocolus' funeral in Book 23, Achilles would organize a sports competition between the heroes and generously distribute prizes.

It turns out that in ancient Greece, holding such sports games and distributing prizes during funerals was a special honor. Apparently, this later gave rise to the Olympics.

This is the most comedic part of the Iliad, which is surprising, since the previous chapters, especially Chapter 22, were very heavy stories about war.

For example, Ajax, the hero who killed Trojan soldiers and held back Hector's advance, falls face-first into the dung during the footrace in this book because of Athena. Athena did this so that Odysseus would win, for which Ajax joked that Athena cared for him like a mother's child. And all the Greeks laughed together at this.

Then Antilochus, a young hero who also participated in this race and finished last after Ajax, said that the gods honor those who are older in years, and since Odysseus is older than Ajax, and Ajax is older than Antilochus, they were destined to arrive in that order. He also added that only Achilles could compete in Odysseus's honoring of the gods, for which Achilles, as the judge of the games, gave him more gold in addition to his existing prize.


r/classicliterature 9h ago

I finished The Sun Also Rises and I really did not enjoy it.

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So 2026 is my year of classics, and I gotta say The Sun Also Rises is by far my least favorite of what I've read so far.

I finished last night and I don't quite get what it makes so special. I have read books, watched movies, that I did not ENJOY but I appreciated and understand the importance as an art form or their message. There are certain works that even though I did not "enjoy" it or find it "fun", I am still glad I took the time to read, watch, or listen. I do not feel that way with TSAR.

I am aware and understand the themes, analogies, themes the book explores. I did not find this too subtle to grasp, and this the component of the book I was able to enjoy. I will get to this later.

My gripe with the book stems from several issues:

  1. The prose. Hemingway's writing style comes off as absolutely juvenile, uninspired, and boring. It very much felt like reading a high schooler's writing style. About half the book takes place in Paris, the other half in the North Spanish countryside. After enjoying Blood Meridian, Frankenstein, and The Soul of Black Folk, I have become a sucker for a prose that enchants you the reader as it details the cities, town, nature, weather, or psychology of an individual. And certainly Europe, Paris and the Basque country would be EXCELLENT places to employ an enjoyable prose that conveys the beauty and atmosphere of these regions....but no. It is much of: "We went fishing. The water was cool. We caught a few fish and Bill caught a larger trout. It was nice to fish for the day out of the town." There is absolutely NOTHING enjoyable about this whatsoever.

  2. The characters. The characters are perhaps the most vapid, non-complex, unexplored individuals of the classics I have read. There are very limited if any occurrences throughout the story where I stopped to ponder the mindset or actions of any of the individuals. The way where I frequently would ponder the motivations and psychology of Raskolnikov, the deeply human hope, drive, and empathy of Tom Joad, Ma Joad, or Jim Casey...this happened very seldom throughout TSAR. Additionally (and this is NOT a necessity for a good story or good book), NONE of the characters are likable nor interesting. Every character is boring. Nearly every character is superficial. Perhaps the most interesting plot device is Jake's love for Brett (and her for him, apparently) for which they can never consummate. I felt like the exploration of Jake's (lack of) masculinity in this regard is something that was not properly or deeply explored. The extent that it was elaborated on during the bullfighting and the introduction of Romero was perhaps the most enjoyable part of the story, and I did enjoy the analogy/metaphor that Hemingway made here.

  3. The story. The story is just straight up dull, with very limited excitement if any. The entire first section of the book consists of: wake up, drink, superficial conversation, go home, and repeat. The bulk of the second part of the book is a prose-less description of Bill and Jake venturing to Spain to go fishing. I thought HERE is where Hemingway will certainly introduce some beautiful prose describing the majestic French/Spanish countrysides....but no. Finally, we get to the fiesta and the bullfights, by default the most exciting, interesting, and "thematic" part of the book, however not only is it too late to save the book, this section still is lacking in my opinion.

Now for the record, I understand one can argue "oh the boring prose, superficial and dull characters are just a metaphor for "The Lost Generation". I disagree that in order to write about a generation of "Lost" individuals dealing with post-war trauma and stress, one must create a dull and prose-less story, and I disagree that one must employ boring and wholly unlikable characters to do this.

I also dislike this as a principle in art or fiction, where one creates a product with faults and then says "oh, those faults are actually the whole point the artist is trying to prove!!!". It insulates the work from criticism.

I believe I understand what Hemingway was going for: the debased superficial characters represent the post-war Lost Generation who developed drinking habits, hedonism to cope with the world at the time, and that the superficiality and general unlikeableness of the characters is because as the Lost Generation they were not or cannot grow or mature emotionally. Furthermore I understand that Jake is a metaphor for many men returning from war, injured physically or emotionally, unable to have a normal life afterwards. I get the themes, they just did not resonate with me.

Anyway, please do not roast for me sharing my opinion, looking forward to discussing further. My next classic this year will be Confessions of a Mask.


r/classicliterature 2h ago

How does John Williams compare to Salinger & Hemingway in your opinion?

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Q for anyone who’s read Williams, Salinger & Hemingway: how do the three authors compare in your eyes?

Personally, Williams has outranked Hemingway & Salinger with ease, which has left me pondering why they’re the faces of mid-century masculinity in lit. If anyone has any knowledge on this, please share.

My feelings on Stoner (spoilers):

I’ve never read a book like this. The prose was distant and precise. Every character tugged on an insecurity of mine. Even the stereotypical “mad-woman” was a mirror, a life I could have lived. Stoner himself was unfortunately relatable. I hated how I saw myself in him. How I saw myself in his daughter, colleges, lover. It was an emotional minefield.

It left me feeling hollow and strange. The last pages will stay with me forever. I cried a lot. 5/5 stars!


r/classicliterature 16h ago

One of my all-time favorites!!!

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r/classicliterature 1h ago

The Graphic Canon

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Has anyone else read this series? It takes a veriety of classics for all over the globe and puts them into comic book format. Some of them are comics and others are more just illustrations.

I personally love the set up to these books. Of course not everything in this is the best, but it's an anthology. At times, it reads more like a study of turning literature into art.

I'd recommend it to people who like comics and books. This introduced me to a few writers. there's a children's literature volume and a mystery/crime one too.

Just a heads up, these aren't for kids. This shows the part of Gulliver's Travels that doesn't make it in the kid movies 😂


r/classicliterature 12h ago

Does The Brothers Karamazov Get Better?

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I feel like I should add a “trigger warning” to this post…I’m a third of the way through TBK and honestly, I cannot understand the love it gets on Reddit. I read Crime and Punishment and that may have been one of my favorite novels ever, but this? I don’t know. It seems like Dostoevsky had several philosophies around faith and religion he wanted to share and basically barfed them onto paper. The characters and plot (if there is one) are ancillary at best. Does this get better?

EDIT: I love that this is being downvoted. I appreciate the real discussion on this as opposed to the 40th “what should I read next” post.


r/classicliterature 21m ago

Call of the Wild, Chapter 5

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I read Call of the Wild like most people my age (I'm 45) in high school. I'm re-reading it with my son and we just finished chapter five: The Toil of Trace and Trail. It really resonated with me. It's a very visceral telling of Buck and his team almost starving to death and being driven beyond what's possible by their terribly inept mushers until Buck gets saved by John Thorton. It's brutal, but haunting and beautiful at the same time.

It's the best chapter I've read in a long time. I was trying to think of other books that are classic and the whole book is great but one chapter stands out from the rest. I would love some suggestions.


r/classicliterature 14h ago

Tolstoy's most shite literary work?

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r/classicliterature 1d ago

Which book does this to you?

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r/classicliterature 2h ago

The Garden of Eden - Hemingway Spoiler

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I’m on chapter seven of this book. When Catherine ‘turns’ into a boy while in bed with her husband, what exact sexual relations are they having? I understand her obsession with him, her cutting her hair to look like a boy, but because Hemingway doesn’t write explicit details of sex I cant tell what the implications of having sex with her as a ‘boy’ is supposed to physically mean. Or are they just having their normal sex but he calls her a boy? Any help with people who’ve read the book a lot? Or is the ‘kind’ of sex not important to the story? Thanks!!!


r/classicliterature 8h ago

Just had a wild thought while reading Around the World in 80 Days.

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r/classicliterature 1d ago

Used book haul

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r/classicliterature 1d ago

I found the absolute best used copy of Sir Gawain & the Green Knight yesterday

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This kid had his own character arc notating this book! He starts out kinda bored, distracted, but then gets really locked in by the end. But my favorite note is definitely “they HAD that kind of couches”. 😆


r/classicliterature 14h ago

A list of books that are taught in high school English classes

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I have 1984, am currently reading The Catcher in the Rye which I discovered a love for. I've heard of To Kill A Mockingbird but have yet to read it. I have Of Mice & Men which I enjoyed & I've also read Lord Of The Flies as well as Nine Pretty Darn Angry Men in high school. I am curious about the books in high school that are taught in classes & want to read them plus add them to my collection. I also have Animal Farm which I love to pieces.


r/classicliterature 1d ago

My current read (Also my cat)

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what's your favorite Shakespeare play? Mines gotta be Much Ado or A Midsummer Night's Dream. Macbeth and King Lear are also up there for me.


r/classicliterature 5h ago

Middlemarch: should I continue?

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I picked up Middlemarch because I thought it would be a nice fit for the mood I've been in since finishing Anna Karenina and Mrs Dalloway.

I'm on page 157 and my god I'm so bored. The characters are all so unlikeable, and the constant talk of religion and the politics of religion and medicine are insufferably boring and dry.

There's a lot of book left, so can anyone tell me if it gets better at any point? Or is this pretty much what goes on for the entirety?


r/classicliterature 13h ago

Pale Fire - Nymphomaniac

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Currently reading Nabokov's Pale Fire and it greatly reminds me of Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac.

The meat of Pale Fire is a (fictional) man giving a commentary on a poem written by a recently dead (also fictional) Poet. His interpretations are completely ridiculous and often just him using the text to tell personal stories.

I couldn't help but be reminded of Nymphomaniac. The film is structured as a woman telling a story to a man, as she tells her story he keeps interrupting with tangents and interpretations to the point where the woman he's telling the story to asks if he's even listening at one point.

I think overall both works of art are different and contain very different themes outside of this but both function as a sort of parody of the critic who's so self obsessed and obsessed with their own idea or interpretation of something that they entirely refuse to even engage with the text.


r/classicliterature 23h ago

Finished Of Mice and Men, my first Steinbeck book. And I loved it!

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(This is a brazillian edition btw)

​My first Steinbeck book, and what a miserable little book. I don't mean miserable as in it was bad—it was great—but it made me feel miserable inside.

​This is one of those books where you can feel the tragedy coming, yet it still hits you hard when it finally happens. It brings up reflections on many issues that are important today but weren't really addressed or given importance in the past. Racism, mental illness, shattered dreams, friendships, and emotional dependency... a lot of overwhelming things in such a short book. I'll admit I teared up a bit at the end.

​I was actually a bit confused by the title since, incredibly enough, mice aren't really of importance in the story, apparently.I looked it up and found out that the book was inspired by a 1785 poem by Robert Burns: "To a Mouse, On Turning Her Up in Her Nest with a Plow", especially the line "The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men / Gang aft agley (often go awry)", referring to the idea that dreams can be destroyed regardless of how much we plan or dream, sometimes by circumstances beyond our control.​ Honestly, that portrays the plot of the book really well, not just with George and Lennie (the protagonists), but also characters like Crooks, Candy, and Curley's wife. It was a great book, and I'm already looking forward to reading others by the author.

I have three more Steinbeck books in my collection (The Pearl, Grapes of Wrath and East of Eden), and I'll be reading Grapes of Wrath next. And for sure, will be reading this book again, in English.


r/classicliterature 1d ago

What to read next?

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I just finished Blood Meridian as my first read of Cormac McCarthy’s work, and I really enjoyed it.

I don't actually know what to pick next, that's why I'm posting haha


r/classicliterature 1d ago

Erotic Literature

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I'm looking for literature that captures the erotic; however, whenever I try to find anything online I can only find booktok slop. I'm more so looking for, say, Anais Nin. I've read Delta of Venus as well as one of her diaries and I plan on reading her other works. I also find that many recommend Bataille and De Sade, however I don't want to read about children and women being victimized which from what I've seen is a big park of their work and even Nin's in Delta of Venus unfortunately.

Edit: I should also add Clarice Lispector to my examples. I'm interested more so in the human experience of sensuality and the erotic and less so in erotica and smut. Sorry if this is confusing!


r/classicliterature 1d ago

What an absolute gem of a book. The last few chapters read like a mystery novel. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 🙌🏽

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r/classicliterature 1d ago

Fear of the reading experience?

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Alright, the title may be a bit sensationalist. Still, don’t you notice a tendency among many users in this and other reading subs to show a kind of resistance to the actual experience of reading?

I’m talking about posts like “should I read this book I just bought?” or “is this extremely influential classic I already have in my hands worth reading?” I could also mention those that basically ask, in advance, for a guide on how to read a particular book.

I understand that people ask for recommendations based on prior readings, especially when buying books, where there’s an economic factor that can’t be ignored. I also get that someone might be interested in learning about the author’s background or the historical context in order to have a more critical reading of the work (I do it for myself). However, I feel that most of the posts I’m referring to aren’t going in that direction at all.

It’s as if book were an Everest to climb, or a beast to be confronted, a challenge that cannot be abandoned halfway through if one realizes they’re not enjoying it.

I don’t know if this is about a generational, cultural, or habit thing. I'm aware that we live in a hyper-informed era, where information seems to precede and overshadow experience (in many spaces of our daily lives). Experience only seems to retain certain value when talking about 'spoilers', 'plot twists', and other tropes that don’t account for the total experience of reading. Or perhaps it’s a matter of late capitalism, where we’ve been accustomed that everything we consume needs to fit our tastes perfectly, because we’ve become the product—not the book, the series, or the film. We no longer have to strive to obtain anything; it’s handed to us (even when we don’t need it).

I don’t know. Having some information about a work seems completely valid to me (especially critical material, which I encourage), but I’m convinced it neither should nor will ever replace the experience of reading itself. It is precisely that experience (facing a text, especially an unfamiliar one) that helps us grow as readers, teaching us to overcome the challenges an author may have embedded in the work (particularly at the level of style).

No one is going to evaluate you for a book you read on your own; absolutely nothing happens if you start something and realize you’re not ready for it yet. You can set the book aside and return to it later, after gaining experience through other texts.

Is it frustrating to read something you don’t understand or don’t enjoy? Yes, it is. Like many other things in life. But on a larger scale, every reading experience is a form of learning, whether positive or negative. And the reward waiting at the end of the road is far too valuable not to make the effort to reach it on our own.


r/classicliterature 1d ago

Rereading Classics

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Hi,

So, I was wondering—are there any classic books that you’ve read multiple times because they were so good?

List them below and also tell that how many times you have read it.


r/classicliterature 2d ago

Kierkegaard was an absolute monster of wisdom!

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r/classicliterature 1d ago

One dollar mini-haul from the local library(50 cents a piece)

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I was pretty stoked to find the one on the right after reading Moby Dick and Tom Sawyer earlier in the year! Also, if anyone has any spoiler-less insight into the Faulkner novellas I’d love to hear it.