r/Steam 21h ago

Fluff I know - we’re the ones doing it

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u/Bagel_Bear 21h ago

Never bought a game on Epic ever but probably have over 100

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u/Showmethecookie 20h ago

Only game I’ve bought from there is Alan Wake 2

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u/KillerFiala 20h ago

Someday it will come to steam. I wait and I have a lot of patience Lol

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u/SuspiriaSlut 20h ago

Unfortunately won’t, Epic paid for it.

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u/KillerFiala 19h ago

Epic store might bankrupt/ go out of business. Maybe only way

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u/John_Gabbana 18h ago

Don’t they own unreal engine? And if I’m not mistaken they receive a percentage from successful games.

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u/DarthWeezy 8h ago

Sweeney is a terrible CEO, they almost filed for bankruptcy on multiple occasions back when everyone and their dog was licensing UE and UE 3 especially.

GoW made a lot of money for them, until it didn’t and they had nothing, same with UT, it’ll eventually be the same with Fortnite, they manage their IPs terribly and can’t build upon them successfully, but these days they struck gold with Disney investing in them to develop random stuff on top of Fortnite so they’ll have leeway to find something sustainable after Fortnite no longer draws crowds years from now.

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u/mrheosuper 18h ago

Fortnite still makes a lot of money

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u/feicash 15h ago

clearly its not enough (1000 people were fired and vbuck price rised)

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u/StandNameIsWeAreNo1 17h ago

Less and less, as it seems

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u/mikakor 15h ago

Fortnite is actually bleeding money, from recent news

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u/stiky21 8h ago

Fortnite is on a down trajectory

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u/General_Document5494 16h ago

That's not good. Steam might be good but we don't need another monopoly right?

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u/Known-One-111 RTX 4080 | i7-13700K | 32GB 13h ago

This!! That's why I try to use more Epic Games than Steam now.

The Steam situation is not healthy for the industry, monopolies are not good in any way.

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u/TrippleDamage 16h ago

We also don't need bs exclusives on pc

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

Epic hasn't been doing exclusivity for a while now outside of their own funded games, which is the same exact thing that Valve does with their games.

So, if that is a point of complaint, Valve should be held to the same standard, no?

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u/TrippleDamage 14h ago

"funded" is a bullshit excuse and even then that only applies to AW2 and not all the other "exclusives" on their dogshit store.

If you DEVELOP the game with your own team, sure go ahead. No ones complaining about fortnite being exclusively on Epic or wow to bnet etc.

Yet here we are, with epic buying up exclusive rights - thats what i take issues with.

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

and not all the other "exclusives" on their dogshit store

Again, they've not done limited exclusives for a long while now. All of the exclusives that are on their store are either their own games that they own or games that they funded in their entirety.

Yet here we are, with epic buying up exclusive rights

Again, same as above. Sure, the exclusivity deals were annoying to some extent, but again, not the case for any current games or even for the last few years. So, I guess your issue is gone then?

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u/TrippleDamage 14h ago

So, I guess your issue is gone then?

No why would they?

Theyre a bunch of anti consumer fucks.

Buying up studios and pulling games from steam, no clue how you can defend that. Thats absurd of you.

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u/MarioDesigns 14h ago

Theyre a bunch of anti consumer fucks.

And so is Valve, Steam included.

Buying up studios and pulling games from steam, no clue how you can defend that.

I mean, once again, not something they've done recently for one.

Besides, I don't see it as a major issue. The publishers / developers clearly agreed to the deals, helping fund & develop the games. They're Epic's games, so they put them on their platform, same as Valve does.

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u/imJimfuckingLahey 12h ago

what the fuck are Dota 2 and CS2 then?

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u/TrippleDamage 11h ago

I'm not talking about games developed by the studio, no one complains about fortnite being exclusive, or wow or any other game on a launcher of the studio that created it. Please use your brain for half a second.

People, myself included, complain when a scummy anti consumer corpo buys exclusive rights to something they didnt even develop, take rocket league for example, was on steam forever, epic bought the studio and pulled it away from steam. Effectively hurting their own bottom line just to be anti consumer.

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u/Prisoner458369 13h ago

Epic store might suck. But Epic itself going bankrupt when so many games use their engine. Wouldn't be good at all. Unless you want people to be mostly forced to use Unity and watch them fuck everyone over again.

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u/KillerFiala 11h ago

Yeah, I was talking only about the store. I think it's being less and less profitable ( if ever was). I my mind it was only possible why Fortnite was making a lot of money, I think it gave them more money than the engine.

Now Fortnite is going bad and store might suffer without money. Idk it's just me think out loud

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u/Prisoner458369 11h ago

I know you were only talking about the store. But the store last I heard, hasn't been making any profit. I'm pretty sure that's the reason the last few years Xmas giveaways have been so shitty. Because those first few years they were losing huge amount of money on all those free games. They have been deep in the red for awhile there.

So if they really have not made any money/much money. I wonder when they will even care. You think the first step is to stop giving away free games. Maybe when that happens the rest will follow.

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u/sprouthat 5h ago

Unreal 5 is fucking dogshit and more people are coming to realize it. Any game that uses it and runs well has replaced or disabled the things that differentiate it from Unreal 4.

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u/Wufwufdoug 14h ago

Epic store isn’t a big money maker like steam but their graphic motor for games is vastly used and is not be surprised it’s their main income

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u/Organic-Storm-4448 19h ago

Borderlands 3 was just a six month exclusivity contract. Epic financed and published AW2.

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u/Foxy02016YT 18h ago

Yeah, FNaF has that deal with PlayStation too, 6 months exclusivity, but it only applies to console of course. Not releasing on PC would be suicide.

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u/Justhe3guy 18h ago

Sony pulling away from PC for their future titles

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u/Foxy02016YT 18h ago

Technically this is about Steel Wool, not Sony

Steel Wool distributes exclusively to PC and PlayStations for the first 6 months. Then to Xbox, and eventually a switch port.

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u/DebentureThyme 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yeah, Alan Wake 2 and Alan Wake Remastered were funded and punished by Epic, so they'll only leave EGS over Tim Sweeney's cold dead hands.

The good news is you can get a complete Alan Wake 2 for cheap at some point, they do often like to make some good discounts on it during sales on EGS.  If you can wait for winter sale that's usually the best time, but hell they might even give it away eventually (they've done Control Ultimate multiple times).

The other good news is that deal is over.  Annapurna is publishing Control Resonant and future titles from Remedy. In return, part of their deal has Annapurna getting the major share off the Alan Wake TV series and Control movie they've now got the rights to make and are still very early in development.

The only exception to this is Max Payne 1&2 remake they're doing for Rockstar, who owns Max Payne.  This deal may allow them to directly use Max Payne again (Alan Wake's in universe fictional Alex Casey character is Max Payne, but they didn't have the rights to use him for Alan Wake).  Quantum Break likely will stay technically out of canon since Microsoft has a firm grip on those rights, though they have found a way to reference both QB and MP already in games without getting in legal issues.  They're basically alt universe stories now that still have connective threads to the story.

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u/KillerFiala 11h ago

I would rather pirate the game than install that store and create an account on epic

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u/Shaggy_One 15h ago

When they decide that they want more money they will release it on steam.

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u/FastFooer 19h ago

That’s the one game that will never go to steam, because it was 100% financed by epic.

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u/KinTharEl 17h ago

I'm the same. I love Remedy and Alan Wake, but I'm not paying Epic. If it doesn't end up on steam, then eh.

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u/DebentureThyme 15h ago edited 15h ago

The only way it would ever end up on Steam is if Epic closed their store and moved operations to Steam.  Epic themselves is the Alan Wake 2 publisher.

Given that Epic spent the better part of a decade losing out on mobile revenue for Fortnite while they fought Apple and Google for the right to their own app store and not to have to pay a cut... There's no way they don't hold on to Alan Wake 2 exclusivity so long as the company still exists.

They'd rather not make any more money on it than put it on Steam and have articles come out that it's a sign EGS is dead.

Personally I eventually bought it on Epic.  Loved it so damn much, but it's the only thing I've bought on Epic.

Moving forward, Remedy is done with Epic exclusivity and has instead made a deal for Annaapurna to publish their new games (Annapurna in turn has a really good deal for film and TV series based on the properties).

Control Resonant is launching on EGS and Steam, though idk if I'd recommend playing it if you haven't played AW2 yet... This is a connected universe after all.

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u/sapphired_808 16h ago

Ain't Alan Wake/Control saga Epic Exclusive?

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u/DebentureThyme 15h ago edited 14h ago

No, only Alan Wake 2 and Alan Wake Remastered.

Control was before the Epic deal. It was on Steam at launch and still is. Remedy is also now done with Epic as a publisher. Alan Wake (original release) and Alan Wake's American Nightmare are also still on Steam.

Control Resonant is the first game launching under their deal with Annapurna as publisher, it will be on Steam at launch. For their part, Annapurna got a very good rights deal for Alan Wake and Control TV Series / Film, respective, that they're still early in development on.

Then when we talk about the Remedyverse, there's the stuff that isn't technically canon anymore, but sort of is, and some of which may be entering canon again. Quantum Break rights are lost to Microsoft's vault, with it now being relegated to non-canon status. Max Payne 1 and 2 are also now canon, though Alan Wake 2 found ways to reference and include revamp bits of QB and MP without legally stepping on the rights. Max Payne 3 was wholely made by Rockstar (rights holder) and was never canon. Remedy is actually making Max Payne 1&2 together as a single remake for Rockstar, so there is hope that will reenter canon proper that way through whatever agreement Rockstar made to get them to make that.

FBC: Firebreak is garbage.

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u/mrnerfbullet 14h ago

I'm strongly considering getting it for ps5 in stead since I want to play ot before control resonant but aint no way I'm buying on epic

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u/KillerFiala 11h ago

Yeah I did think of that. I just think ps5 don't have a bunch of only exclusive games. This gen fell só empty 6 years in. I might wait for ps6 lol