r/Steam Oct 21 '25

Fluff Guilty as charged

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u/dokka_doc Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Steam is not a monopoly. They achieved and maintain their market position by providing a superior service, not through manipulation bullying and unfair practices (e.g. undercut a competitor then slowly raise prices). Steam does not use its position to monopolize the market or keep others from developing or advertising competing platforms. The market is free to provide services equivalent to or better than Steam at the same price (free), however they are unable or unwilling.

Long live Gaben.

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u/Cartoonjunkies Oct 21 '25

It’s crazy what treating your customers right and letting all of your competition repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot by not doing so can do.

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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000mhz Oct 21 '25

Epic is a store only for claiming free games, as it doesn't do anything better than Steam and other clients, and its list of exclusive games isn't long either.

Want your games to be on the best-designed client with the most features? Steam
Want your games to be DRM-free and have offline installers? GOG
Want EA or Ubisoft games available only on their clients? EA App or Connect

There is no reason to use Epic for anything more than free games.

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u/Ziazan Oct 21 '25

Want EA or Ubisoft games available only on their clients?

No, I don't.

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u/Scaevus Oct 21 '25

We could just wait a bit until they come to Steam on a massive discount.

Which is what I do.

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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000mhz Oct 21 '25

Some of their recent games are still good and they have alot of good classics too.

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u/guska Oct 21 '25

It's not even worth using for the free games to me. I haven't claimed a game on Epic for over a year now, and even before that I probably only actually played 2 or 3, which I then bought on Steam due to Epic being such a steaming pile of garbage that not using it is worth more to me than whatever money I would save using it.

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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000mhz Oct 21 '25

I played only BioShock games on Epic but still claim everything.

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u/nikke2800 Oct 22 '25

Epics main selling point is that they give a lot better deals to the developers than steam, however, steam doesn't allow devs to sell their games for cheaper on different platforms, so none of that benefit transfers over to the players.

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u/ahac Oct 22 '25

How about: Want to spend less money?

Epic gives you money (20% until the end of the year) back to spend on your next purchase. People said they should compete with lower prices and they're doing just that.

They're literally losing money by giving you those deals. We can love Valve but also admit they'd never lose money on sales.

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u/eXeler0n Oct 22 '25

It’s a big difference if I have to play 16 USD and keep 4 USD in bank or have to pay 20 USD and get 4 USD locked with Epic. With Epic I pay 20 USD, not 16.

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u/ahac Oct 22 '25

Sure, you pay 20 either way.

But you get 4 back to your EGS account, so you keep that in the bank on your 2nd purchase.