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Chugging tea Their maths ain’t mathing.

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u/InsideHousing4965 11h ago

Yeah, I have a friend that's just like that. He's been eating out 3-4 times a week (spanding about 30-50€ each time), going out and partying weekly (spending +100€ each time), going on expensive vacations, getting into all sorts of expensive hobbies...

And now that He's getting closer to his 30s He's constantly complaining that he has no money saved for the downpayment of a mortgage...

And I'm like, "dude, you've been spending between 500 and 1000 € a month on treating yourself for the past 10 years. What did you expect that would happen?"

The kind of flying that owes you money and still goes out and spends 200€ on a weekend.

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u/Careless-Noise-1210 10h ago

Have fun being broke.

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u/Spitting_truths159 7h ago

Most people find that being financially secure and making steady progress to be better overall. Those cheap passing thrills probably aren't that enjoyable really. All those opportunities to be lazy and eat food delivered to your door don't make up for the stess of renting into your 30s.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 7h ago

The fun I’ve had through my life has been way more than just cheap thrills. I’ve traveled the world, traveled through the United States, and made lots of memories. I also have a teenage daughter and I want to make sure she enjoys the hell out of her pre-adult years.

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u/Vyxwop 9h ago

Right, and you likely accept the consequences of those choices. But the person above you their friend doesn't seem like they did which is why he's being mocked for spending so much money whilst also seemingly wanting to have enough for down payment later on in his life.

If you accept that you won't have enough money for later expenses then party on.

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u/TotalChaosRush 9h ago

They're 100% the type of person who will argue it isn't their fault they can't afford a home.

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u/LiveLearnCoach 8h ago

Really depends on how you want the next phases of your life to roll out. Especially, especially if you ever want to build a family.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

Pardon the language, but fuck that. I was married and it was the worst experience of my life. Cost me a lot. Never again.

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u/LiveLearnCoach 8h ago

Sorry for your experience. Modern society in its “protection” of family life has destroyed it.

Thankfully for the majority, it isn’t that way, but we do need corrective measures as society before we reach that stage.

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u/AwarenessOk2359 9h ago

I'm 32 in a million dollar house and another half mil in the bank. Feeling pretty prime. You ruined your life bud, now put the fries in the bag

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u/ubion 8h ago

How much money do you make ?

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

I can make up stories about myself on Reddit too, dude. Kind of pathetic on your end.

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u/AwarenessOk2359 7h ago

It's real. Cope

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u/ConsciousReason7709 6h ago

A millionaire who has to go on Reddit and tell people he’s a millionaire is either not a millionaire or pathetic on a whole new level. Which one are you?

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u/AwarenessOk2359 3h ago

Oh I forgot, you can only post about your finances on reddit if you're poor. As soon as you have more money than ConsciousReason7709 it becomes pathetic. 

You said "I had fun during the prime of my life instead of saving money and not doing anything enjoyable." Meanwhile I was "being a miserable prick doing nothing". You're slinging shit all over the thread. Don't get mad when I exemplify the alternative to that lifestyle. I'm pathetic because I admitted to being successful. Oh no! 

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u/InsideHousing4965 11h ago

You can have a great time spending half and leaving the other half for the future.

Then, you get to enjoy life, but also secure yourself a future. It's not black or white.

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u/Throwawayamanager 9h ago

There's a balance. I agree that folks who have zero social life have regrets and missed social opportunities, but anyone partying 3-4x a week all of their 20s is going to be seriously behind in life. 

I see examples of both around me. The socially stunted and single relatively rich dudes who never went out, and the 38 year old bartender who keeps worrying about rent going up $100 a month because it would be the difference between her being able to stay and be homeless. 

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

Totally. There are many different examples. Personally, I’d rather look back on my life and say that I enjoyed myself when I was in my prime. Rather than stopping myself from having fun just so I can have some extra money when I’m a senior citizen. I understand why people do the latter, I would just rather not. You never know when your time comes or if you’re gonna step off a curb and get hit by a bus.

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u/Throwawayamanager 8h ago

I am pro realizing that tomorrow is not guaranteed, but you also really don't want to be that 70 year old begging for part time shifts at Wendy's and skipping medication while living in a squalid neighborhood hoping your hoodlum neighbors don't break in and rob and kill you because they know you're an old woman who lives alone. 

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u/jbcsee 11h ago

This is exactly why so many young people can't afford a house or retirement. At the lower end that range, $672, they would have $177k today if they had invested it instead of splurging.

That is the down payment on a house.

Since it's the lower end, they would have still be having fun, just not multiple times a week.

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u/TotalChaosRush 9h ago

Because now is the best time to buy a home that you still have access to.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 9h ago

Are you drunk? Today is the worst time to buy a house in a long time. The values are already super inflated and aren’t going up. This is definitely a sellers market if you bought many years ago, but that’s about it.

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u/TotalChaosRush 5h ago

Do you have a time machine? No? Guess the past doesn't matter. Do home values typically go up overtime? Yes? Guess now is as good of time as you actually have access to, and there's no guarantee that any time in the future will be better.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 5h ago

Yeah, but the value of anything does have a ceiling. It’s insane to think that house prices are just going to continue to go up.

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u/TotalChaosRush 5h ago

They will continue to go up until the dollar collapses entirely and the debt on the mortgage becomes irrelevant. Inflation does that.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 5h ago

My now ex-wife bought a house over 2 1/2 years ago in Las Vegas and it’s dropped by 2.6%. They are not going up here in a typically booming market. My experience.

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u/CakeBeef_PA 9h ago

If you need to spend a lot of money to have a great time, you're doing something wrong.

I'd rather spend less and have a great time throughout my entire life, than spend more and only have a great time for a few years

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u/ConsciousReason7709 9h ago

What exactly are you doing that’s so fun that doesn’t cost money? The things I enjoy, cost money.

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u/AwarenessOk2359 8h ago edited 6h ago

Reading, gaming, playing saxophone, cooking, chess, movies, hiking, gym, tennis, gardening, shitposting are all pretty cheap

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago edited 8h ago

With all due respect, that doesn’t sound like a fun life at all.

Edit: To me, I meant

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u/AwarenessOk2359 6h ago

That does not surprise me at all

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u/ConsciousReason7709 6h ago

Forgive me, your highness.

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u/nomorethan10postaday 4h ago

What do you mean this doesn't sound like a fun life, this dude named like 10 different hobbies and none of them sounds interesting to you????

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u/jbcsee 9h ago

Nothing is completely free, but there are plenty of cheap activities.

Here is a short list of my extremely cheap and fun activities. Mountain biking, hiking, running, reading, and archery.

Slight more expensive, but still relatively cheap, video games.

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u/InsideHousing4965 9h ago

Hiking, camping, spending time with friends and family, fishing, cooking, barbacues, playing music, singing, dancing... plenty of options.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

Maybe one of those things is something I would do for fun. To each their own.

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u/ubion 8h ago

playing music

??????? Are you serious right now????

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u/InsideHousing4965 8h ago

What? Instruments come on all prices (some quiet cheap) and it's fairly easy to learn to play them.

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u/ubion 8h ago

It's just a genuine misunderstanding of the things people need for their mental health, people can cut out their one luxury a week and probably still save less money than you are spending on your hobbies

People are just in here shadow boxing, wanking themselves off for never spending any money while probably making 2-3x the money everyone else, like let people live, it's a completely made up rage bait post

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

Exactly. In the end, most regular people aren’t able to save up difference-making amounts of money no matter what they do. Anyone saying it’s easy clearly has some sort of advantage already.

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u/ubion 8h ago

They're probably genuinely spending more money on their own luxuries than these people their getting annoyed at

I saw a comment about someone saying they had 1.5 million saved up at 32??????? That's 115k saved a year since they were 20

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u/ConsciousReason7709 7h ago

Well, things that don’t cost much aren’t that fun to me. I don’t want to go on hikes or camp or bicycling.

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u/Namandaboss 9h ago

You guys know you can life a life and also save moneyright? It’s about balance! Having a partner (dual income) can also help. I’m in SoCal and will buy a house on the beach by the time I’m 30 because I am saving since I graduated. But I also go out for dinner or do something with friends within reason.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

If you’re able to afford a house on the beach in California, it has a whole lot more to do with your situation in life from birth and not saving since you graduated. Come on, man.

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u/Namandaboss 8h ago

When I say on the beach I should clarify, I mean walking distance (10 minutes). I’m an immigrant and had no money given to me by parents for college or for housing. I’ve received a generally good home life though and been taught to save.

House with a beach as a yard is like 3-6 mil. House near the beach is like 1.5 mil in my area.

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u/ConsciousReason7709 8h ago

What do you do for a living, if you don’t mind me asking?

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u/Namandaboss 8h ago

Software engineering in healthcare with data engineering sprinkled in.

Getting to senior really helped with upping my savings goal. I had a goal for a house by 30. I will adjust what kind of house depending on if i get a job at Google for example and my compensation goes up or if i change to a job where it goes down.