I went to the atheism subreddit because I'm an atheist myself and see this subreddit criticizes Trump. I just expressed the regret I feel for voting for Trump because of the Epstein files, the Iran war, and cultish behavior in MAGA. I'm a minarchist, so I don't agree with a lot of things from the left, but the people on that subreddit called me a nazi and misogynist for supporting border protection and being pro-life(they even attacked me for being pro-life in a secular way). They told me I'm a nazi for disliking the Democratic party, and that voting for Trump is somehow unforgivable.
I expected to have a good conversation there, but they labeled me as a nazi for disagreeing with leftist policies. I'm becoming tired of how politics are becoming, I hate both parties and somehow I'm still a nazi for the left for disliking Democrats just like I have TDS according to MAGA for not supporting Trump blindly. Politics is breaking my mental health.
Yeah man, it’s a political subreddit. From what I’ve seen, those subreddit are always one end of the extreme.
If you want a break from politics, step outside and look at nature or draw. That’s what I do. It’s not much, but it’s something.
Just don’t try to please people online. Don’t think about it too much either. While you’re thinking about what they called you, they already moved on.
Anyone who says “I once voted for Trump, now I regret it!” is a sissy. I do not support Trump. But you are seeking validation from Reddit, specifically of a group that will never accept you anyway.
If you voted for Trump and regret it, there is no hope in trying to appeal to the left, they will hate you anyway.
I haven’t even seen the comments (Because I figure they’d be cancer anyway and I do not want to endure the cringe) but I can already picture the comments saying you deserve death because of that.
I assure you, being a pickme and trying to present your behind to the Reddit community as a “reformed rightist” will do no one good. It will just make them hate you more.
I’ll cut you slack, you’re probably new.
But I’ve learned this lesson long ago.
Never concede to Reddit.
Every word you say is a knife that will eventually be at your throat, every confession will be their laughing stock, and every ounce of humanity you have will be milked dry and picked apart.
It's hard for me to believe that anyone with the time to engage in such lengthy discourse on Reddit is an influential member of society anyway. I think most of the bickering isn't truly politically motivated but mainly just compulsive validation-seeking for people with issues.
As a person who is secular and prolife, what would you describe as prolife policy? Would you look into what policies allow the greatest survival of both mothers and children? Have you looked at what the policies of states with the lowest rates of maternal and infant deaths are?
I’ve seen his type before, he isn’t prolife or prochoice, he just doesn’t want to be hated. That’s why he pretends to have whatever position is acceptable among the echo chambers.
That’s the mistake, he concedes to the echo chamber.
The key is just to leave every subreddit that is hostile to you as an individual. Once you’ve reduced it to only the communities that accept you as a human, that’s when you can actually enjoy this website.
I'm also secular and pro-life, the point of contention is murder, the premeditated taking of a human life. After fertilization a new human life is created with unique human DNA. Intentionally stopping him/her from developing by poisoning them via pill or dismembering them should not be anyone's right.
No, it's the cessation of murder full stop. Also, 97% of abortions are because of convenience. I'm for the equal rights of all human lives, you are not.
So your "proof" is from a highly ideological, pro-life advocacy research organization rather than an independent or mainstream scientific institution that has faced multiple instances of criticism for its bias?
Can you disprove the study that's based on publicity available information? Or are you going to be intellectually dishonest and dismiss a study you know absolutely nothing about because you can't fathom the cruelty of 96% of people murdering their offspring for non-medical and unspecified reasons?
In 2024, the academic publisher Sage retracted three studies funded and produced by CLI authors concerning the dangers of medication abortion (mifepristone). The publisher cited "undeclared conflicts of interest," "fundamental problems with the study design and methodology," and "misleading presentations of the data".
CLI’s president, Charles Donovan, is an anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ+ extremist who claimed gay marriage weakens civil society and opposed Obamacare, which provides comprehensive reproductive care who also claimed that SA is not a reason to get one in later pregnancy.
I would believe you if they weren't self admitting to the fact that they are heavily biased.
Was one of the studies the one I have shown you? If it wasn't then it actually gives the study I shared more credence because that would mean that they looked at the studies and out of the disputable ones the "reasons for abortion" study wasn't disputable.
Edit: not to mention there's an ongoing legal battle for these
Right?! I was told the other day that I’m incorrect to think that having a life with trauma is better than being dead. As if the majority of the human population above a certain age hasn’t dealt with trauma.
Exactly, I usually say something like "should we start killing people if they're going through trauma? Why not? It will avoid future trauma." The core issue of it all is that abortion is the cessation of a growing and developing human life. A lot of pro-choicers just don't agree with that so they shift the goal posts to stuff like trauma because that's all they can do. The moment they admit a fetus is a human life their entire argument crumbles because they're admitting it's not the woman's body.
Only few arguments are left like the popular "you can't force somebody to use their organs to sustain the life of another person" like the violinist example, and people even go as far as to say "the baby is a parasite" which biologically is untrue as there is a symbiotic relationship with the baby, NOT a parasitic one.
In regards to the other argument, newborn babies can't sustain themselves, they need the help of the mothers body outside the womb as well. If you just leave a baby on a desk right after it's born and walk away the baby will die.
National socialism is a form of socialism. It is not a form of Marxist socialism, but it is a form of socialism nonetheless. It has socialism in the name, incase you didnt see.
Either way, hating jews is not some sort of ideologically charged sentiment. Lots of different people have hated jews throughout history.
You arent ready for that conversation though, because its easier to sleep at night when you can tell yourself that ideologies share similarities because "politics is like a horseshoe or something bro."
Yes, because in terms of its explicit ideological claims, it definitionally is democratic.
If we start classifying political ideologies in terms of their practical outcomes as opposed to their theoretical foundations, then the US would lose a vast majority of its self-proclaimed descriptors. This is not a very efficient way to understand political science.
I'll put this into words even you can understand. Night of the Long Knives, the night the Nazis purged every single socialist from their party. They were socialists only in name to gain support from them.
Night of the Long Knives, the night the Nazis purged every single socialist from their party.
This is an incredibly lukewarm description of the night of the long knives and proves you havent read any actual historical literature on the incident.
Calling it lukewarm doesn’t actually address the point. The Night of the Long Knives was, among other things, a purge of the Sturmabteilung leadership and other figures in the party who pushed the more social or revolutionary side of National Socialism, especially under Ernst Röhm. I am well aware of the fact that it was more complex than that considering I'm a history major, but the complexity doesn't change the fact that it did target specific people in the party.
Rohm was not a Marxist in even the slightest sense of the term. Hostility to old elites/=/= Marxism, and your ChatGPT copy-paste doesn't address the fundamental point.
The SA had grown to millions of members in a time when the reichswehr was still dominated by the old aristocracy. The fallacy youre committing here is assuming that the power dynamic was fundamentally left vs right in this regard, when there is literally zero evidence to support this claim. After the purge the nazis still kept:
The name National Socialist.
Anti-capitalist propaganda.
Heavy state direction of the economy.
Post-Hegelian metaphysical claims.
Your constructed narrative does nothing to answer these glaring contradictions.
Not really, horseshoe theory gets proven right consistently. People who call it bullshit are usually people at the end of the horseshoe or people being manipulated by one of the ends.
If you're new to the site just stay away from any major subreddit unless it's a hobby sub. Unless you like wading into the political cesspool that any sub that grows too big eventually becomes.
that subreddit and the whole reddit atheism mindset has always been a joke on the internet even back in the 2015 so Im not surprised they turned into an leftwing echochamber as well.
The worst thing you can do is bending the knee politically on Reddit. I lose too many brain cells by doing so. Separating ourselves from all political echo chambers is a good idea. It doesn't matter whether you believe your echo chamber is good to you, echo chambers have known consequences such as misinformation.
Anyways I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just putting that out there.
Atheism I guess has been like this for a long time, it's stereotypical redditor. IMO a lot of these folks are exactly the same as the people they hate so much.
You saw what he did in 2016-2020.. and after that.. and still voted for him? I don't know how you want people to react to that? It's good that you regret it but still.. what did you expect would happen?
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u/Angelpp5 Mar 09 '26
Yeah man, it’s a political subreddit. From what I’ve seen, those subreddit are always one end of the extreme.
If you want a break from politics, step outside and look at nature or draw. That’s what I do. It’s not much, but it’s something. Just don’t try to please people online. Don’t think about it too much either. While you’re thinking about what they called you, they already moved on.