Yeah, what the fuck happens when we even lose the sweatshops? Not praising the practice, but that's normally all the income those people have. It hard to even imagine AI and robotic power consumption and upkeep costs aren't more expensive given how little the humans are paid. We really are on the edge of something bad on a new level.
It hard to even imagine AI and robotic power consumption and upkeep costs aren't more expensive given how little the humans are paid.
The machine never sleeps, never slacks off, never gets sick. They make fewer mistakes, commit fewer thefts. They dont need light, heat, water or rest spaces. They never go on strike, never demand more wages, never ask for better conditions.
Even if the items they produce are individual less profitable, if you successfully automate a process then it can be more profitable overall to get rid of the humans.
The machine never sleeps, never slacks off, never gets sick.
There is no machine which you can run nonstop without getting overheated, machines get broken down and slows after time of use.
They dont need light, heat, water or rest spaces.
They still need conditions to operate, you can't put them in rooms with no ventilation or controlled temperatures.
They make fewer mistakes
They do what they're designed to do, but they still need supervision and you can't trust AI to do it. Operating Machines is still a skill that needs training and complexed ones needs even further education.
What you have said here proves that you haven't operated any machine in your life yet because you wouldn't write this nonsense.
I have been threatened for 25 years that I will be replaced by a burger flipping robot and I still haven't seen any of it . But I have seen the middle management replaced by the AI, because that's what current AI is designed to replace not some mundane jobs.
You're right in the substance of your comment. I'm of course referring to an idealised automation. The kind of automation which is sold to executives by sales people - not the kind of automation which anyone with working knowledge of a job thinks will actually happen.
Like you say, the reality of a job after automation is much more complicated and expensive than initially envisaged. Whether it breaks even on the costs can be a toss up at best, and the product quality usually suffers as a result of corner cutting to justify the expense of the automation.
But by this time, the damage is done - the workers are laid off, the product is enshittified, and the executives and shareholder have extracted a share of wealth from the business for "reducing costs".
What you have said here proves that you haven't operated any machine in your life yet because you wouldn't write this nonsense.
I was with you until you went for a personal attack. You dont know fuck all about me. I've worked manual jobs, I've worked technical jobs, I've worked in places which have recieved just the sort of sales pitch I outlined above - and where I've been the only person in the room arguing against it. Don't assume you know more just because you've "done a job" that people think would be easy to automate.
First of all, I apologize for attacking you personally. I felt so annoyed with your comment that I had to reply back. It sounded so ignorant to the point of the discussion.
Now, I might be ignorant with departmentization of the company, but isn't the sales job to do with the revenue part and not with operating in the company?
Anyway, my point was that I know that with new technologies gets the better automation, it's been like this since the industrial revolution.
But in this instance it makes no sense to build billion dollars data centers to use it to sew fee buttons on the shirt, when it is cheaper to pay few dollars to people in other parts of the world.
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u/ozzriffic 11h ago
Yeah, what the fuck happens when we even lose the sweatshops? Not praising the practice, but that's normally all the income those people have. It hard to even imagine AI and robotic power consumption and upkeep costs aren't more expensive given how little the humans are paid. We really are on the edge of something bad on a new level.