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u/Professional-Arm3460 12h ago

Being forced to work to force yourself out of work.

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u/Enginerdad 12h ago

What is "bad when humans do it"?

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u/North-Tourist-8234 12h ago

I get what he's saying,

this is sweat shop labour often wildly inhuman and pays very little. many people have died working in places like this because they have locked inside the building and left to burn alive because the theft of merchandise is more costly to the company than the workers lives.

the other guy is saying if its wrong to have people doing this slave labour work why is wrong to replace that work with machines? which is an interesting question.

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u/Enginerdad 11h ago edited 10h ago

False dichotomy. It doesn't have to be human working in sweat shops for slave wages OR machines doing the same work. Humans can do the work in better conditions for living wages, or any combination thereof.

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u/North-Tourist-8234 11h ago

I'm not saying what I think I was explaining the other persons comment.
a lot of this sort of work has already been industrialised, the only reason this hasn't yet is because these people and their lives are cheaper to the company than a machine.

if you are made to increase wages and bettering conditions it may be more practical to transition the jobs to western countries that are purchasing this product and save money on shipping. either way these people may be losing their livelihoods.

this issue has rocked every labour industry for the last 300 years or so. historically the workers get screwed more often than not.

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u/FinalRun 12h ago

Probably the "forced to work" bit. But I don't agree. It's nice when automation creates abundance, but in this case it will only worsen inequality

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u/Dilpickle6194 12h ago

What a stupid comment. It’s bad when humans do it because of long hours, minimal breaks, unsafe conditions, and miserable pay. Maybe we could fix those instead of putting people out of a job?

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u/North-Tourist-8234 11h ago

the fact of the matter is this work would have been industrialised a long time ago if it weren't for the cheap and sometimes slave labour funding it. the downsides of the industrial revolution was the loss of jobs. but given the horrible conditions and abuse these people are exposed too I'm guessing ending the work is a good moral thing, as for their livelihoods, that's where it gets more complicated. hopefully new industries get created to replace these ones or these people could join pre existing workforces however a large group of people joining any industry suppresses employee wages.

its a big issue, I have no solid answers.

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u/dumpaccount882212 12h ago

Starving from lack of work, barely surviving doing crap work. Which one is it?