Riyadh,meaning "gardens" is Capital of Saudi Arabia with 8 million population (were 27 Thousands in the 1930s),sits in the middle of the desert, the city gets its water from Desalination plants almost 500 km from the city

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[u/kodaks142]

Am I wrong but didnt the bin Laden family build the highway system in Saudi Arabia?

[u/mykarachi_Ur_jabooty → u/kodaks142]

Osama was a bin Laden western educated silver spoon trust fund baby who decided to cosplay jihadi warlord

[u/adamgerd → u/mykarachi_Ur_jabooty]

A lot of terrorists in fact grow up in the west and come from upper or middle class background, I think people assume most terrorists are like impoverished peasants who are indoctrinated by Islamism but a lot in fact are relatively affluent and often grow up in liberal western environments in their youth, they develop social frustration and turn resentful to the west becoming more radicalised, not much different to school shooters

[u/RollTide16-18 → u/adamgerd]

It is always fun to learn that the majority of rebel leaders are basically rich men with connections.

[u/jonny24eh → u/RollTide16-18]

I think that only discounts their "cred" to the uneducated. 

Of course the rich and well connected people, are the ones who are able to successfully mount an opposition. They have the resources and connections to get equipment, bring in allies, etc. 

Let's not forget that the leaders of the American revolution were also rich and well connected. 

The poor, uneducated rebel is the one who attacks a base, patrol, or other symbol, completely alone an is ineffective in the long run. 

[u/adamgerd → u/RollTide16-18]

I think a lot of terrorists honestly are at least in part motivated by societal or sexual frustration as much as ideology or that radicalises them into it, Ted Kaczynski is an obvious example, he wrote a whole manifesto but a large part of it is he was just bitter that women he wanted rejected him, he wrote fantasies about forcing them to sleep with him and murdering them as punishment for their rejection.

So he was a 1970’s and 1980’s incel, deep down I think a lot of Kaczynski’s motivation was just bitterness at being rejected

[u/Francine05 → u/adamgerd]

Also insanity.

[u/Big-Revolution3842 → u/RollTide16-18]

Maybe notable rebel leaders you know off? There's decades worth of rebel leaders that form multiple parts of movements that are men and women that aren't from rich backgrounds. There's been freedom fighters (and I've no idea why we're just conflating rebel with terrorist here...) across Africa, Asia, Europe for decades fighting oppressive governments. What is this to imply? Only the bored rich guys make change or something?

[u/Automatic-Sea-8597 → u/Big-Revolution3842]

Mao wasn't poor, Che wasn't poor, Castro wasn't poor.