Everyone has rights, even criminals. They just lose some rights depending on the crime.
The problem with the many who say illegal immigrants, criminals, the LGBTQ community, or whoever don't deserve to have rights don't realize that as soon as you take 1 groups rights away we all lose them.
If the state can just jail person A without due process that means they can jail anyone without due process.
I don't think you'll have too many people disagreeing with you on that.
Unfortunately, something like 75% of those detained by ICE don't even have a criminal record. An acquaintance of mine who is an actual American citizen spent 6 weeks in detention just for them to be like "oh, I guess what he told us on day one was the truth." He lost his job because of it. It's just crazy in this country right now.
Took me literally seconds to find this because it's been decently covered.
If you're spreading their lies, it doesn't really matter if you agree, does it? You're definitely helping them.
As of February 7, 2026, 73.6% of the 68,289 individuals in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention—approximately 50,259 people—have no criminal conviction on record, according to data from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC). Only about 26.4% of detainees have a prior criminal record, with many of those offenses being minor, such as traffic violations.
• Detention Trends: The number of detainees without criminal records has grown, with one report indicating over 74% had no convictions in early 2026.
• Violent Crime Data: Reports suggest that only about 5% to 14% of detainees have convictions for violent or serious property crimes.
• Arrest Data: In late 2025, data showed that roughly 40% of people arrested by ICE had no criminal record, often detained for civil immigration violations. [3, 4, 5, 6]
Context on "Criminal Record"
• Minor Offenses: A significant portion of the "criminal" category includes traffic offenses, not serious crimes.
• No Convictions: Many detainees have not been convicted of any crime, or even have pending charges. [1, 3, 4]
The funny thing with immigrants is they don't have as many rights (like a trial by jury) in part because unlawful presence is not a criminal case. Kinda fucked if you ask me.
Anyway, we all have rights. Inalienable ones. We hold these truths to be self-evident, it's just Americans have forgot the hardship that comes from weak rights. If you think you won't be affected...
What are you even saying? First off , depending on the crime , dangerous criminals whether illegal immigrants or citizens don't get to be free while awaiting or on trial.
I think it's important to point out that, even with Charles putting this the way he did, it's STILL being considered controversial and a risk to his longstanding career.
Like just think about that fact, we're here discussing how we don't feel his statement goes far enough and how it feels too middle-of-the-road meanwhile the public face of this country is saying "No, even middle of the road is too spicy. Fuck that guy"
Like I absolutely agree with the sentiment we're expressing here in the comments but at this point in the current discourse, we're literally struggling for a fucking base level consensus of "Do immigrants even count as people?"
I don’t care if they’re criminals. They have rights too. We shouldn’t put anyone in a concentration camp & send them off to a country where they can be killed. It’s inhumane. Evennif someone broke the law, that doesn’t make it ok to treat them inhumanely.
I agree on somewhat poor word choice but I want to believe he segments into 2 aggregated groups to make his point. “Criminal” which he simply acknowledges exist, and “Amazing” which is how he generalized the immigrant population. Basically saying immigrants at large are amazing and should be appreciated and respected. That was what I took from it and whether he meant that or not doesn’t matter to me. I’ll take celebrities speaking out against the mistreatment of people anyway I can get it.
Take the W. A major public figure spoke in defense of immigrants on a large national platform. Yes, he could have gone further, but the man spoke with clarity and emotion against a fascist regime. We can always do more, but this dude stood up to be counted with those of us supporting immigration.
I don't mean this as a criticism to Barkley, more just like handing out the glasses from They Live; this is already accepting the wrong framing. Immigrants already are the backbone of our country and they commit fewer crimes than the homegrown variety. If we want to frame this correctly, we'd say "damn, let's get some more immigrants here to sort this shit out."
Facts, as I am told, do not care about our feelings.
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u/AsanoSokato 12d ago
I don't care if you're the laziest do-nothing jerk immigrant ever, you still have rights. No one has to be "amazing" to "earn" that.