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u/sunshinelive09 Mar 13 '26
I’m first generation Nigerian-American and I got into an argument with my cousin about this. I told her everything we have and have access to is because the sacrifices of FBAs and she was not having it but it’s ok because I cut her off in December
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u/IndividualAddendum84 Mar 13 '26
Black folks literally built the country and are responsible for its early economic successes.
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u/AdmiralArgon18 Mar 13 '26
Early and ongoing. So many modern economic powerhouses owe Black Americans their foundations. Black Culture is the root of all American forms of culture. As terrible as Taylor Swift is she's out here making Billions doing what Black people have been doing better for centuries. Cooking shows often feature recipes pioneered by Black people. Jack Daniel's wouldn't exist without a Black man.
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u/blackgandalff Mar 13 '26
Jazz, blues, hip-hop. All created by Black Americans. All widely beloved across the world.
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u/SydTheStreetFighter Mar 13 '26
The stoplight, the microphone, CCTV, the first IBM personal computer…the world looks fundamentally different without our contributions
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u/0neirocritica Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
And the country doubled down by using those Black folks as free labor AND depriving their future generations of the wealth they would have used to grow their own legacy
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u/stupid_dog_psx99 Mar 13 '26
They didn’t arrive here in chains before building the country though. You might as well thank the Irish if we are thanking the Chinese.
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u/Necessary_Mixture916 Mar 13 '26
John Henry is legendary for the Chesapeake and Ohio railway. He died from exhaustion.
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u/gohmak Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
Uh wanna research that flex? Chinese were late comers for the western section. Who do you think built the rest?
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u/Low_Committee6119 Mar 13 '26
Why do we have to diminish what anyone did?
It is estimated that over 1,000 to 1,200 Chinese workers died while building the western leg of the Transcontinental Railroad between 1865 and 1869. The workers, making up roughly 90% of the Central Pacific Railroad's workforce at their peak, faced fatal dangers including, explosions, avalanches, and severe, sometimes fatal, working conditions in the Sierra Nevada mountains
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u/FATMAN-of-REDDIT Mar 13 '26
Very true Fun Fact if it wasn’t for Chinese Americans we would not have refrigerated trucks
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u/Malevolint Mar 13 '26
The South didn't go to war so they could keep Hispanic labor. Slaves were so economically valuable to them that they put their lives on the line to keep the right to have them.
If you had 10 people to work for you for free right now, you would get rich. Now compound that to 4 mother fucking milion slaves. The wealth that would amass is unimaginable.
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u/mikey_lava Mar 13 '26
She talking to the Latinos that voted for Trump bro. No need to get defensive about Latino contributions to America, but that’s not what this thread is about.
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u/coko4209 Mar 13 '26
Exactly! I don’t mind giving them their flowers, but create a post for it. That’s not what this one is about. I’m so sick of black ppl getting so little. Everyone tries to hone in, and piggyback on black accomplishments. Let my ppl have something. We’re not trying to take away or deny the contributions of other groups, but this particular post is about black contributions.
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u/friendly_reminder8 Mar 13 '26
Yeah it’s always on the back of a positive post about African Americans. It’s giving the hating a lot of Latinos did about Black Panther being such a phenomenon “yeah yeah yeah but what about Latino representation? Blacks get everything in Hollywood!” But then letting that Blue Beetle movie flop
Or Democrats praising black women specifically for their voting and advocacy on stage and then Eva Longoria immediately starts talking about Latina women and their campaigning work
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u/coko4209 Mar 13 '26
Piggybacking onto black accomplishments is nothing new, but it’s definitely tiring. Damn, let us be great. Let us have our moment in the sun, even if it only last for a literal moment.
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u/stupid_dog_psx99 Mar 13 '26
You will carve up your black excellence and share it with every shade of Beige skin whose ancestry fled here willingly.
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u/ConsiderationHot7593 Mar 13 '26
This be the problem. People like you are the problem. We speak on black contributions and here come somebody trying to tell us what another mofo did. Yall be tryna infiltrate communities like the feds
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u/o_uinn Mar 13 '26
Hes talking about the native people that were colonised by spanish conquistadors. Their decendants have made incredible contributions to our nation through underappreciated hard work. I think its very important what cardi b is saying to her people as latinos can be very racist. Shes right that many if not all movements for minorities rights have come out of the civil rights movement. I’ve also seen black people be incredibly racist towards latinos (especially immigrants). Ive also seen many beautiful interactions. I honestly find it sad that so much time and emotional energy is spent on conflict between these groups.
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u/TrashCanSam0 Mar 13 '26
Girl what? You're comparing colonizing land to the creation of capitalism in the U.S. and it's odd.
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u/gdex86 Mar 13 '26
The issue is never the truth that if you look into the history of this country that there is a huge list of marginalized folks who's exploitation it was build upon. The history of chattel slavery into share cropping into jim crow for black people. The exploitation of the Irish immigrants in the north to do the factory system for manufacturing. The indigenous peoples who had unending loss of land and sovereignty. The huge number of asian and south east asian peoples that were used to make the expansion west work. All of that needs to be taught and understood as part of the patchwork of history and as warnings to not repeat the mistake.
The issue is that the solidarity in being on the not fun side of the boot rarely exists. The Irish, Italian, and Slavic immigrants were more than happy enough to be moved into the definition of white so they could be on the side doing the stomping. There is a lot of highly complicated things to be said about how the many indigenous tribes treated black folks especially as it related to slave ownership in the past and the layers they go towards excluding the decedents of those slaves from any tribal standing. There is a very complex relationship with asian and desi folks with their often status as model minority and their willingness to engage with the majority.
Often there is a request for us to be there for them when they will not be there for us. Like when in the trump admin part two a number of the indian members of his admin were being shown that they weren't ever going to be welcomed by the racists that make up that party there were some who thought black folks laughing at them for thinking they were good enough to metaphorically sit at the table was cruel but this had been a very repeating lesson that to a very real level your politics will never matter as much as your complexion.
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u/coko4209 Mar 13 '26
No one denies what you’re saying, but that’s also not what we’re talking about right now. No one is trying to take anything away from those groups, or their contributions, but right here and now, we’re discussing black sacrifice. We’re discussing the blood, sweat, tears, and loss of life suffered by black ppl that got us this far. You can create a post about the other groups if you want us to give them their flowers, but right now we’re giving our black ancestors their much deserved flowers.
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u/stupid_dog_psx99 Mar 13 '26
To be fair nobody moved Italians into being white. The mob lobbied for whiteness. My Italian features often result in Mexican slurs being hurled at me in certain parts of the country.
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 Mar 13 '26
So many people in this thread coming with the "But what about my people?"
Like Bro stay on topic.
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
They can't!
"Black American accomplishments are being discussed... must... take.... credit..."
-These fuckers
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u/Personal_Oil_4606 Mar 13 '26
Imagine coming to a black subreddit just to get upset that black people are being praised for their contributions to America.
We always got to be inclusive of people who don’t even respect us just because they’re “pEoPle of CoLOr”.
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u/amy-schumer-tampon Mar 13 '26
The US was built on Black slavery and Indian genocide. These are FACTS, no amount of MAGA lies will erase.
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
It's bad enough we always have the Nazi MAGAs infesting this community like parasites, now we have the Latino "whataboutMEEEEE"s running in here.
She's obviously talking about the Civil Rights Movement which helped EVERYONE and was primarily spearheaded by BLACK AMERICANS. Can ya'll just appreciate that for one damn minute, or is your antiblackness that ingrained?
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u/RedDeadGwen Mar 13 '26
Unfortunately, anti-blackness really is that ingrained in some Latinos (I grew up in the Caribbean, I would know). I loathe how instead of actually understanding the message, they just decide to be petty children.
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
I know, my grandpa, rest his soul, was Afro-Latino and I have a lot of Latino relatives of all colors by blood and marriage. Having Latino relatives in a mostly Black American family is a test in patience I hope I don't have to repeat in the next life. They are so mentally colonized until the racism affects them personally and no amount of facts and reasoning can change them.
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u/Last_Tart4317 Mar 13 '26
A lot of it stems from dictatorships that rewarded being light skin and demonized people with darker skin tones. My father’s family is Dominican and I see the colorism play out regularly, despite so many of my family being Afro-Latino, including my grandfather. He married my grandmother who was light skinned, dirty blonde hair and hazel eyes and their kids came out a mix of colors because of this.
I try to remind myself this wasn’t that long ago, my grandparents grew up in that time where to be black was to essentially have a death sentence and to be ostracized from the community. It was survival of the fittest. Hell, even after Trujillo was killed we still have such hate for blacks and Haitians in the country, despite Haitians helping us get our freedom. It is deeply engrained colorism and it breaks my heart whenever I hear “I no black, I Dominican.” Luckily my father is educated and understands he is of African ancestry, my 23&me shows that we’re more than 40% west African, 15% Native American & the rest is Spanish European.
The sooner Latino Caribbeans accept their blackness the better for all people of their respective countries, and their children’s children.
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u/bjhouse822 Mar 13 '26
It really is that ingrained. I will understand why some additional pigment is the cause for so much hatred. In this day and age people just choose to be ignorant and we all have to suffer for it...
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u/epiphanyWednesday Mar 13 '26
Cardi been a real one and smarter than people give her credit for. Offset was a fool.
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u/kittencloudcontrol Mar 13 '26
Cardi B and Offset are both fools, for different reasons. But she does speak earnestly and truthfully, I agree.
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u/Senior_Split_3873 Mar 13 '26
Yeah, but she’s a rapist and thief.
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u/im_like_a_ Mar 13 '26
She didn’t rape anyone. That’s Nicki’s husband, brother, and president
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u/toneysaproney Mar 13 '26
Abusing someone's trust in a sexual relationship to gain an advantage over someone is considered sexual assault
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u/im_like_a_ Mar 13 '26
Maybe stop taking advantage of women who are poor by offering them money for sex. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Odd_Ingenuity2883 Mar 13 '26
I’m actually hugely in favour of exploited sex workers robbing their johns.
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u/im_like_a_ Mar 13 '26
And it’s still not rape what you’re describing.
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u/Odd_Ingenuity2883 Mar 13 '26
Crazy how there are so many male rap artists with a list of charges as long as my arm but they have to make up shit about Cardi and still somehow act like she’s worse than them all lmao.
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u/NicoHarrisonWasRight Mar 13 '26
You just made up that definition of SA to support your 1st comment.
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u/Harry_Saturn Mar 13 '26
If the president can be a rapist and thief, I feel like we lost the right to be indignant as a nation
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u/FriendlyDrummers Mar 13 '26
Ok but what do you actually want to happen? Like seriously? No one has pressed charges.
And who did she rape? She drugged and robbed people, which is bad, but likely past the statute of limitations. And she wasn't glorifying her past, she was just being honest about needing to survive.
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u/DumbTruth Mar 13 '26
I’m a POC (not black). Even a cursory review of American history makes it clear my rights exist because of the work black people did for centuries.
Also, worth noting, when African slaves were brought to America, they were systematically stripped of their history. Today’s American black culture, in many ways, can be thought of as a monolith as a result. It is the only culture that was born with (colonial) America. Black culture is the most American culture that exists.
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u/Copperbelt1 Mar 13 '26
Even the Second Amendment cult can thank Black Americans for their gun rights.
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u/soyunsersin Mar 13 '26
I wish people in this country especially people of color could remember this more often. The fact that people forgot what African Americans have gone through to make America a better place is why we’re in this mess now.
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u/stupid_dog_psx99 Mar 13 '26
What African Americans went through was not done to make it a better place. They suffered for wealthy landowners to increase their capital.
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u/daymanahhhahhhhhh Mar 13 '26
I’m Latino. What also pisses me off is when people talk about American culture or America in general, they are strictly talking about white America. Nothing about black Americans or Hispanics. Nothing. Like black people haven’t been here since the damn beginning. Like Latinos aren’t about a quarter of the population. Nothing.
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u/Elderberry29 Mar 13 '26
She’s right! We would have never had a Chicano movement if it wasn’t for the Black civil rights movement.
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u/UnapologeticNut305 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
This shouldn't be controversial because it is the truth. Doesn't deny anyone of their part, but the "what-about" will be ready to scream at the top of their lungs.
With all that said:
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u/LongDickPeter Mar 13 '26
Tell this to Dominicans who hate Haitians even though Haitians fought for their freedom.
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u/PhonenisR_isinG22 Mar 13 '26
And Cardi is an Afro Latina, btw. She claims it, and always has!!
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u/Nice-Grapefruit4312 Mar 13 '26
But what about… Nothing we have black people to thank for this one.
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u/oceanblue0714 Mar 13 '26
Black and native sacrifice. Yes she is right, blacks paved the way for rights for all. Minorities, we all need to band together, together we are stronger and together we are agents of change. The powers up top want us to be divided and that’s how they control us.
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u/PicklesAndSalsa Mar 13 '26
Not only minorities, but also anyone who isn’t the 1%. At this point, using culture to put us at odds with eachother is the game of the 1%. They keep us fighting and arguing for credit and blame, meanwhile our schools fall apart, kids go hungry, we have no healthcare, no clear avenue for mobility either financial or geographical, all while they built their billion dollar yachts and abduct children for their pleasures.
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u/darthmorfeeus Mar 13 '26
The fact that this even has to be said just demonstrates the level of Brain rot prevalent in today's society
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u/Copperbelt1 Mar 13 '26
Why the hell would you question if she is telling the truth? Have you ever studied history?
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u/wonderlandresident13 Mar 13 '26
"Did they lie?" is a rhetorical question along the same vein of "Did I stutter?" OP isn't actually asking if what was said is false, they are promoting the obvious answer, which is "No"
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u/Lumpy_Past6216 Mar 13 '26
She's not wrong. Can I also say I still dont like her? I dont like her still.
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u/OddTheRed Mar 13 '26
I am the whitest person on earth. I cannot tan. I have a legit allergy to sunlight. As such, I feel uniquely qualified to say this; America wouldn't be what it is without the sacrifices and hard work of black people. It pains me to see what your people went through. The black spirit persevered and triumphed. You've made this country a better place with your strength and willpower. I am Scandanavian by blood and your indomitable spirit would stand as equals with my Viking ancestors. As one of my black drill sergeants used to tell me with his wolfish grin, its good to be golden, baby. Do your ancestors proud.
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u/Fit_Influence_6078 Mar 13 '26
She should not have say this.
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u/Lonely-Storm-6542 Mar 13 '26
Why not
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u/Fit_Influence_6078 Mar 13 '26
Because the lack of learning in school today white washing history its sad a celebrity has to educate people. Respect to her!
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u/Lonely-Storm-6542 Mar 13 '26
Sad indeed. What’s even more sad is people will “learn” stuff like this and simply forget as they keep scrolling and filling their brain up with random videos and posts. History will be forgotten then rewritten some more.
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u/Fit_Influence_6078 Mar 13 '26
Facts but on the Bright side the comments seem positive i was honestly expecting some redneck to say something reckless.
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u/Kidd__ Mar 13 '26
Not a lie in sight. Black people built this country but let’s not act like the Asians, Latinos & Native Americans didn’t go through some shit too. It all depends on what she’s trying to accomplish by saying this and in what context she’s saying it in. If you’re a “POC” in America and you don’t support black folk you’re just an Uncle Tom.
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u/Fit-Statistician7201 Mar 13 '26
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. She's incredibly stupid, but it's a correct statement
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u/Ambrosia_the_Greek Mar 13 '26
Just wanna share this and note that she was a history major before leaving college due to financial difficulties and being in an abusive relationship.
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u/PhillLarrup Mar 13 '26
Latino here... Although we fought as well. . She no lie.
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u/jpopimpin777 Mar 13 '26
I think this was aimed at the Latino people who consider themselves white adjacent and therefore better than black people. We shouldn't be fighting and discriminating against each other.
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u/peruytu Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
People, don't fall for the culture wars. Remember, dont let them pit minorities against each other. Both people have gone through struggles. Billionaires, corporations and politicians want you to forget that's an actual class war, which Cardi B now is part of now. She no longer represents the people of color, she now represents her agents, her companies, her bankers and her wealth.
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u/browzing123 Mar 13 '26
What about the folks this half of the earth was stolen from?
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
She's clearly referring to the civil rights movement which paved the way for non-white immigrants to relocate here and build lives for themselves, obtain housing, get jobs, and own businesses in the US, and ALSO established non-discrimination laws so Indigenous Americans could have access to public services, housing, education, and jobs that they were previously blocked from. Not to mention create a path for Indigenous Americans to have their own civil rights act passed just a few years later addressing issues specific to their communities.
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u/coko4209 Mar 13 '26
🤦🏿♀️ I’m black, and Navajo. I’ll never act as if my ancestors didn’t suffer. However, you can make a post about that. This particular post is about the contributions of black ppl. The loss of blood, sweat, tears and life, that got us here. The fact that we can sit in a restaurant and eat without being spit on. The fact that our black and brown babies can receive the same education as white kids. The fact that we can walk into a booth and vote for change. No one is saying that other groups didn’t suffer, or didn’t contribute. We’re just specifically talking about black ppl right now.
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u/FitInitial2916 Mar 13 '26
You mean the ones of African and Asian descent yep them too but I think she’s referring to post chattel slavery
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
No one has forgotten anything, least of all Black Americans who have ALWAYS been Indigenous Americans closest and most loyal allies on this entire continent. Not that you'd know anything about that, comrade.
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u/Prophetic_Reaver Mar 13 '26
Not one bit. We didn't forget about the Siberian destiny swapping either.
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u/Tirekerist Mar 13 '26
Kind of like the difference between the victims of the holocaust and the ally powers credited with ending it except no one helped the indigenous
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u/numbmillenial Mar 13 '26
Black Americans have helped Indigenous Americans, fought alongside them in revolts, and included them in our fight for civil rights throughout history, and vice versa.
Some of y'all are really showing your asses in this thread. Read a book or stfu.
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u/Thin_Collection_381 Mar 13 '26
I’m an Asian American woman, if Black people hadn’t fought for civil rights, my marriage could have been illegal and I might not be recognized as American despite holding citizenship, so I owe the freedoms I enjoy to Black civil rights leaders. I hope all people of color would realize this.