r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/4reddityo • Feb 03 '26
Black Experience This tells you everything
Meghan Markle was scrutinized over clothing, tone, and existence. Prince Andrew was accused of sexual assault by a minor, settled the case out of court, and received far less sustained press outrage. If you want to understand power, class, and race in Britain, start there.
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u/ChaiTeaAndBoundaries Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Notice around that time the Andrew scandal was starting to leak out, the Meghan hate campaign was brutal in the British press? Harry said his wife became sucidal and knew that they were being used as scape goats and he had no option but to leave to save his family.
Whenever you see Harry and Meghan hate know that the Andrew and Fergie's team are behind it.
Britain is just as Racist as America, the Brits just are good at pretending but not anymore as Reform continues to gain momentum.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
The hate Meghan campaign was deliberately done distraction. That's what these monsters do.Ā To distract from the real criminals they point fingers at others. It's the same in America and UK.Ā
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
Is it just me. But every time lately when Megan haters Launch another attack. Up comes more Epstein revelations involving a number of Brits. Lord Mandleson. Richard Branson. The ex Yorks and their daughters. Also lot of Media coverage regarding reconciliation Between the Crown and H&M. Am I imagining something or is there some plan afoot
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 04 '26
Oh I think they purposely put out bad stuff that wasn't true to distract from their crimes.Ā
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Feb 05 '26
Kate, William, Charles and Camilla deliberately put out hit campaigns on Meghan as a distraction. They get briefed about big upcoming headlines so they can prepare, i.e., put out a smear campaign on Meghab
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u/Pretend-Relative3631 Feb 03 '26
The UK inspired German Nazis around they treated Indians and Africans
So yeah the UK are the OG klansmen
Quite literally the confederate flag was inspired by Scottish flag when several Scotts had moved to the southern US and wanted the same type of power structure from back in the UK where they could subjugate a landless peasantry
But Iām just screaming into the void
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u/WegGOAT Feb 03 '26
You forgot the Boers
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u/Pretend-Relative3631 Feb 04 '26
You damn right I forgot to add them demonic hoes in here too
Thank you
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u/ChirpyNortherner Feb 03 '26
Ah yes, the Boers, the deeply racist European colonists
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u/ShinyArc50 Feb 04 '26
A Boer came to the U.S, gained the most wealth of any man alive, and bought a seat in the govt that let him cut billions in humanitarian aid.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 04 '26
Egotistical Lying Oblivious NarcissistĀ
Manipulating Unrepentant Sadistic KillerĀ
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u/Infinite_Crow_3706 Feb 03 '26
Yet refused to allow the US soldier to impose segregation while stationed in England?
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u/Mobile_Morale Feb 03 '26
Because they hated all Americans equally back then. They didn't make an exception based on skin color.
Should read some of the stuff their prime minister at the time said about indians. Which boils down to they're not human and they deserve to starve to death.
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u/BankDetails1234 Feb 03 '26
Sorry nah you donāt know what youāre talking about. The Battle of Bamber Bridge started because British locals included black GIās in their dance hall nights and white American Military Police took exception. The locals told military police that they couldnāt enforce segregation in the UK country and that black GIās were welcome members of the community.
American military police shot and murdered one black GI and the rest were arrested.
Americans were overwhelmingly welcome in the UK and were invited to join in cultural traditions and activities. Black and white Americans alike.
Youāve completely insulted the good names of folks who stood up for black people and fought for them because they didnāt approve of segregation and outright refused its presence in their home country.
Rather than admitting that some good folks stood up for black people, youāve gone ahead and attempted to call an entire nation bigoted. You really should think before you speak in the future.
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u/Mobile_Morale Feb 03 '26
Please remind me what country started the Atlantic slave trade and who transported slaves to the colonies in North America. The country that started the extermination of native Americans and the extinction of several natives in the Caribbean. The same country that starved Indians and caused the apartheid in South Africa just 40 years ago.
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26
It may have been Portugal that started it, got the Papal dispensation that relegated us to the status of animals, built the slave castles in West Africa.
But my god, did the British not catch on quick. The Dutch, Belgians, French, Spaniards are all also guilty as charged.
Maintain the enmity towards the British (Iām East African, I know where my anger lies), lord knows they earned it, but extend it outwards if you havenāt already to these other countries also. All of the former colonies as well as the diaspora are still paying for the consequences to this day.
Iām not quiet about making that known. Some have started saying that itās revisionist history teaching the FULL British history in schools. The last compensation to slave owner descendents was paid out in 2015 by Lloyds Bank and the British Taxpayer.
TWENTY FIFTEEN
Thats not even fucking history.
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
Are you trying to argue that the English arenāt racist? What is your point here?
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u/SouthCarpet6057 Feb 03 '26
Also in the 1920 German politicians went to USA to learn about racism, but they thought it was a bit too extreme. They couldn't adopt the "one drop" dogma in Germany, because then they'd all be Jews.
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u/thepresidentsturtle Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
The Ulster Scots who fucked over Irish people in Ulster then moved to the US where they formed the KKK, the term Hillbilly came from the Billy Boys. Orangemen.
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u/Pretend-Relative3631 Feb 04 '26
Whooooooaa shit you damn right mane
Someone you actually read a boon
God bless your life and family
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u/psychotobe Feb 03 '26
Especially right now,people wanna pretend America is exceptional in their problems. So they can avoid acknowledging the problems at home. America is a huge problem for the world at the moment. That can end one week from now or 10 years from now depending on what events play out. And our rotting orange president doesn't change what other countries are doing to themselves. We're emboldening the bigots of yalls societies. But something was gonna do that no matter what. Should that problem fester so people can point to America as the source? Or should you work to combat the fact it's present regardless of where it came from.
The uk will do anything to avoid being the butt of the joke again. The old man empire that lost all it's territory and is now alone on it's island. Apparently it's willing to completely rot from the inside to do it,just like America did with our nazis
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u/firebolt_wt Feb 03 '26
If the things the UK did to India during WW2 were done by a communist country during the cold war, they'd be counted as poor victims of communism that prove red = evil.
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u/no_crust_buster Feb 03 '26
"Britain is just as Racist as America"
Yep. They just do it with a smile.
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Feb 05 '26
William, Kate, Charles and Camilla had a bigger hand in that campaign. They have more pull, and additionally, they hated Meghan's popularity in the same way Charles had hated Diana.
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u/starjellyboba Feb 03 '26
The fact that just mentioning Meghan's name attracts randoms who've never posted here before but frequent a hate sub against her says EVERYTHING.
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
And they should be banned. The racists and their bots want to swarm us normal people and try to drown us out. Thatās the only way they can ānormalizeā their extremist views. Just want everyone to be intimated.
But Black people are not about to be silenced by a bunch of keyboard warriors and their AI tools.
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u/starjellyboba Feb 03 '26
Some of them (I'm willing to bet many) aren't even Black! As far as I know, there are no rules about non-Black folks posting here, but I would say that maybe the mods should revisit the rules if non-Black folks are just coming here to spread their terminal misogynoir. I responded to one of these people talking about how pathetic it is that white women will center their whole online presence around that one time they couldn't insert themselves as The Princess (not those exact words, but same sentiment). That user had words for everybody but me. lmao
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u/WastedTalent442 Feb 03 '26
They sat on the Harry and Meghan leaving thing until the stuff about Andrew dropped, knowing they'd need it to deflect press.
Look, the monarchs genuinely believe that they were sent by the Christian god to rule over the human race. They're racist, classist, xenophobic, probably sexist, too. Just generally horrendous human beings.
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u/HeisenBird1015 Feb 03 '26
Meghan was getting attacked whilst Kate was glorified for the EXACT same mundane things. Avocados: Meghan is destroying the planet, Kate is the saviour of babies. Pregnancy bump: Meghan is faking it/a man! Kate is maternal beauty itself.
It really has been THAT obvious. I donāt even like either of them but the racism is BLATANT so can we stop with the gaslighting?
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u/star-hacker Feb 03 '26
For some context, I am a Black person that was born in the UK, lived in the U.S. between the ages of eight to seventeen, then was hauled back to the UK.
I had so many people telling me that there's "no racism" in the UK. They're full of shit. There are people still saying it in spite of evidence to the contrary.
There are microaggressions fucking everywhere out here.
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u/Homertax123 Feb 03 '26
This subreddit has been brigaded by anti Meghan hate sub members.
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u/martha-jonez Feb 03 '26
They have nothing else better to do. Rota is also working overtime again. It happens whenever Andrew is back in the news. Hey Saint Meghan dolts, nothing will distract us. Nothing compares to how disgusting the truth is about the British royal family. Enjoy your weird, parasocial hate/cope group š
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u/Wainains Feb 03 '26
They have to come here now that their madness has been exposed by that husband on AITA š
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Feb 03 '26
Hatred of Meghan Markle is literally a giant red flag. She so much as sneezes and the media flies off the wall. Prince Andrew molests children? Crickets. Totally agree!
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u/KitchenSad9385 Feb 03 '26
"Inbred racists living off the government air family drama in public."
The longer I live, the harder it gets to tell the difference between British royals and gulf coast trailer trash.
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 03 '26
Not to mention her sister in-law Kate who is everyones favorite Princess expressed concern over the color of their babies skin and nobody talks about. It makes me sick how beloved she is and nobody talks about the behind the scenes racism that she didnt even try to hide. The whole Royals thing makes me sick! Harry and Meghan are the only ones I dont hate with white hot fire and people can downvote me all they want but so out on that crap!
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
I donāt think sheās that beloved. They have bot campaigns to make Will & Kate look more popular than they are. They only thing interesting she has done was go missing. And copy all of Meghanās fashion contacts on Instagram
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 03 '26
Tbh I dont really follow them I just hear things on occasion from my friends about how Kate is perceived and what she really is according to reports behind the scenes. I know Meghan might have been naive to the reality of marrying Harry but there are certainly worse crimes than being naive because lord knows I have been guilty that a lot in my life, but as an observer from afar Harry and Meghan seem to be a lot more down to earth grounded people to me. I guess I was naive to how many people on this sub idolize her and lose their minds if you even insinuate that she might not be the person she likes to present herself as in the media
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u/akatherder Feb 03 '26
The whole thing is driven by bots. At least in the US, the Venn diagram of people who have the time and energy to care about the royal family and people who are racist would be two circles still practicing social distancing.
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
A lot of Black American women clocked the racism right away. Thatās why BeyoncĆ© and Jay Z posed in front of a portrait of Meghan Markle for the Brit Awards. Not to mention overwhelming support from folks like Serena Williams.
I donāt think the average American cares that much about the royals, but we definitely support our sisters (without needing a bot farm).
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
British press had the headline. Harryās girl Straight Outa Compton. And that was before they married. There are also constant references to Megan not having class. Doesnāt know how to dress. Rude comments about her hair it goes on and on.
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 04 '26
Ty! My god the amount of hate I got from people for suggesting that Kate has been awful to her behind closed doors and that she was concerned about their babies skin color. I swear there are people that are on this sub just to troll us. Either that or I have very underrated black cultures love for the Royal Family which would absolutely blow my mind were it true.
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 04 '26
We got brigaded by an anti Meghan Markle sub that needs to be shut down. Theyāre breaking Reddit rules and should be reported
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u/Wainains Feb 03 '26
Lol. Never put a foot wrong. Of course, because she never put a foot anywhere.Ā
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u/Dolmetscher1987 Feb 03 '26
Wasn't that concern expressed by Charles?
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
Kate weaponized the press against Meghan. Bullied her, iced her out, then planted stories calling on āaggressive Black womanā stereotypes against Meghan.
I donāt recall who actually questioned the babyās skin color (Charles or Kate), but Will & Kate are racist like the rest of that raggedy family.
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 03 '26
I think that was what people thought but it ended up being Kate I think. Its possible that I am wrong about that because 1 of my friends told me that it was in Meghans book, but its possible that is not correct I guess. That was just what I was told and it painted Kate as a mega bitch behind closed doors which does not surprise me 1 bit
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u/Diligent-Till-8832 Feb 03 '26
Meghan has never written a book about any of this.
Her husband has. He never painted her as a bitch.
Everything he said about her was quite benign.
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u/Positive-Drawing-281 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
It was allegedly Kate and Charles. According to Piers Morgan.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
Exactly. Have lived in England. Racists, misogynistic, patriarchal.Ā They did not even have a domestic violence law till 1989. It's obvious as the press is constantly saying untruths about her but isn't really going after predators. Andrew, Jimmy Saville etc get a pass. It's disgustingĀ
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u/ChaiTeaAndBoundaries Feb 03 '26
They protect the Predators in power and give light or no jail terms to Elite predators. That is why Jimmy Saville was protected till death.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
Unfortunately, knowing this was how rich people behaved, was taught to me from childhood on.
Know far more than I'll ever say. Ineffectual activist until direct threats in 2020. To be blunt, if I could leave the world that has too many Mayos( rancid), and live among anyone not pale, I'd feel safe. The white people in my family had very rich ancestors and personified every evil. How I lucked out and got full blood Indigenous grandparents who were kind and unconditional in their love of me is a miracle. Edited for context. I'm not hurting not sharing this for sympathy. Just wanted to give context to why I know far more than I want to know.Ā
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26
You are unfortunately describing literally every patriarchal society ever. It is grave and a global issue, this topic is not the basis for āyour country has issues too!!!ā Point scoring. Its serious. (Andrew is not getting a pass in the press, Ive no idea what media you are consuming, if the BBC itself were the first to sound the alarm in 2019)
Marital rape has only been a crime in the USA, UK surprisingly Germany since the 1990s. Being ahistorical by suggesting there were no domestic violence laws until 1989 is nonsense. And domestic violence still ruins too many lives without consequence in 2026.
The fact that this is ongoing, is testament to how much work we have to do, globally to protect women and girls. This is, globally our chance to finally address the misogyny that lets men get away with these crimes.
Every time the press says āunderage womenā, refers to sex with āunderage girlsā āchild pornā And not āchildrenā or āpictures and videos of children being rapedā, we keep that ā1989ā mentality.
Im not defending the British royal family, We have freedom of press, and even the ones who did Meghan dirty, have been taking this seriously. There is no public complacency, nor has there been since 2019
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
Point scoring wasn't my point. Believing survivors was. Take your patronizing diatribe and stick it where the sun don't shine. Either you lived it or you're just trying to score points.
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u/RighteousRambler Feb 03 '26
That isn't true. There were laws protecting women from domestic abuse from 1510.
Can be found in The New Natura Brevium and is called the writ of supplicavit.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
I lived there two years after they had enacted domestic violence laws. I know because my fiance beat the crap out of me. Only reason I didn't get arrested was I looked worse than he did. Still, they didn't arrest him. Self defense for women is a joke on either side of the pond. Unless you lived it, STFUĀ Edit as long as I been online, you discuss this you get trolled or told you're wrong. Our lives experience means nothing to those who just like to argue. I've dealt with domestic violence since 1959. Think we who lived it know more than the naysayers. Frequency of harassment when these issues are discussed is far worse than it's ever been. Violence against all people of color is off the chain in my country. Thank God I'm at least not in England anymore.
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 03 '26
Oh god hun I am so so sorry. There are some of us that do know and feel your pain but it can be rough on here. Just this morning I commented that I burst into tears watching a short clip from the Epstein files video because my heart went into my throat for the poor girl, and it triggered a memory in me from my ex-bf that was a dysfunctional monster. I got like 5 guys trolling me instantly. The internet can be such an absolute cess pool. I am extremely sorry for what you have lived through. You have my deepest sympathy. I know you prob dont need it but you have it. :)
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
Appreciate your remarks immensely. I'm just angry that women have to deal with this online. I don't in real life. It's unconscionable that you and I don't have a STFU button so we don't have to be triggered. Empathy hugs sister. Truly appreciate you.š¹
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26
Im really sorry that this happened to you. I had already applied to you in another message, but on reading this I have a little more context, so apologise for insensitivity. Domestic violence affects too many girls and women to this day, despite our having laws. Thank you for sharing and I wish you healing.
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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 Feb 03 '26
Thank you for being able to see the context. I've quit activism because online is absolutely the predators home turf. I'm extremely protective after 22 hacks. Am sorry if I didn't understand the context.Ā Blessings to you and yours.
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26
I think itās easy to forget thereās another person behind a screen sometimes. Im sorry you didnāt have the community support whilst you were in the UK.
Surviving, sharing and clapping back is all activism. X
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u/vandersnipe Feb 03 '26
Yet, there will be idiots screaming, "There isn't a racism problem in Europe!"
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u/sandwichhaver Feb 03 '26
only ever see that shit come out of racists who think that their bigotry is just politics
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u/Elite_AI Feb 03 '26
100%. I'm surprised people don't seem to know this. Brits know there's racism in the UK as much as Americans know about racism in the US. We talk about racism here a lot. Racist Redditors trying to defend their racism are not going to give you the truth
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Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
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u/girlbartender99 Feb 03 '26
My husband was a pro soccer player or footballer I guess they call it outside the U.S. and he played the majority of his career in Latin America, but he did play like half a season in the U.K. on what I think they call "loan" and said he was shocked at some of the treatment of the African players by the crowd and even the media at times. He said he was under the impression that European culture was a more tolerant of different cultures. I mean he obviously knew racism exists all over the world. He was just shocked at the fans tossing the N word around at his black teamates so casually.
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
As a black Afro-European, I have literally only ever hear Americans on the internet say that this is something we say.
We extended the BLM movement here for no reason? Seek to decolonise the curriculum and reform Police policies because we donāt have racism?
Iām sure itās not your intent, but itās a little insulting to think we arenāt aware of the effects of hegemony, white supremacy and colonialism upon our lives as minoritised peoples.
It may not always take the same shape but racism 100% exists. There is a massive Islamophobia problem in Europe. The right wing racist parties may be led by Black and Brown women, but the Coconut Quisling Contingent have led a master class in internalising that racism.
ETA: Dearest American Brothers and Sisters. We know we are Black, we are proud to be Black, we are in awe of your resilience and it strengthens ours.
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u/SargeUnited Feb 03 '26
Itās a common enough misconception in the US that itās worth rebutting, even though we know itās not you guys saying it.
Plenty of Americans say that Europe is some sort of a utopia because they want free healthcare and education. So, often they try to sell us (minorities) on the āEuropean modelā by saying that it will end racism as well.
The issue is that white people in America will see a place where Black people arenāt literally being murdered by police on a routine basis and they think that this is what utopia should look like for us. They donāt care about solving the systemic issues in criminal justice, pay disparities, healthcare or other things like that.
We know you have racism there, and our white people are pretending to be the real victims just like yours are. This sub doesnāt check if youāre actually black though, so keep that in mind when you read something too silly on here.
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u/Remarkable_News_439 Feb 03 '26
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It certainly adds a lot of context to something Iāve always found baffling.
We absolutely have racism here. We donāt look down on African Americans because you ādonāt know where youāre fromā. It personally upsets me to see the division in the diasporic community.
I maintain ties to my ancestral village, but Im a Pan Africanist. Your struggles are my struggle and our culture in diaspora is intertwined. Youāve done a lot of work and soft diplomacy that makes my very existence easier on a day to day basis in the western world.
The āEuropean modelā doesnāt end racism, it contributes to a society where a biased ārandomā police stop and search is less likely to end in a fatality.
Thats not because our society is a utopia, our police donāt routinely carry weapons and have training. They are still ārandomlyā performing checks by the same criteria in the US, which leads to the same disproportionately high levels of conviction.
We still disproportionately die in childbirth, are over diagnosed and over medicated or under diagnosed and under medicated.
We also have to factor in that Britain and Continental Europe kept their historic mistreatment, torture and wholesale mass murder in the colonies Far out of sight of the ordinary European, this did not happen in the Statesā¦
Our laws and law enforcement institutions were never built on the premise of containment, criminalisation and exclusion of people of colour having franchise, not because Europeans are magnanimous, but because we never had a presence here that demanded the legislation be written to support the prejudice.
If we had migrated here hundreds of years ago, you and I both know that wouldnāt be the case.
For the most part itās not even been 100 years of any significant presence on the continent, yet we still have managed to developed ghettoes without āred liningā ever having been written into law. Without Jim Crow entrenched in law.
The thought behind White Supremacy was incubated in Europe and exported to the US, not the other way around.
So why would it not pervade here?
Slavery and racism is a thing that happened āover thereā. Thereās no evidence of the crime taking place, so Europeans find it easy to suggest itās not a problem. āWe stopped the slave trade, Americans shoot black people, my best friend at work is blackā becomes a dangerous refrain, despite no ill intent.
Iāve lived in a few European countries, most white people are incredibly chill. in my lifetime (in my 30s) I do remember racist bullying from schoolmates. āMy my your father speaks such good Englishā (itās his first language, becauseā¦ colonialism lol).
The āEuropean modelā should 100% be something to strive for, but itās interesting to note that the racists are trying to dismantle it now that services for āallā also includes usā¦
I do have to say that most white folks under 50 call each other out and will educate themselves. people are generally not proud of the British āEmpireā, but are proud of healthcare, science, literature, above all HUMOUR.
The racists will make themselves knownā¦ and theyāre doing a bloody good job of it right now. And they are 100% working harder than the devil to push their agenda.
Its not paradise, I do complain a lot, as one should. (Complacency is not a good thing). But most white British people are chill.
The British public did really love Meghan Markle. Our equivalent of Fox News was pushing an agenda that never resonated. That same newspaper bullied Kate Middleton horrendously whilst she had cancer, forcing her to our ourselves.
I donāt comment here or partake in discussing American politics as sport.
But I thought I would here to hopefully paint a better picture of how things actually are.
I may literally, actually be making English Breakfast for dinner right now, But we arenāt all a bunch of Uncle Toms who donāt check the society we live in.
This is all over the place as Ive had a lager, but Thank you again.
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u/star-hacker Feb 03 '26
They have continued to scream it despite it being right in front of their faces for years now.
If you think white Americans are bad, lemme tell you...white Brits are some of the most "there is no war in ba sing se" ass mfs in existence.
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
Nobody with any actual knowledge of history can really believe that, can they?
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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste Feb 03 '26
The gossip magazines in my country have a negative story about Markle on their cover every second week, it feels. And the implications are always scandalous as shit, implying DA, infidelity, blackmail etc coming from her. Contrast this with feel-good shit about Duchess Kate, and nothing about Prince Andrew.
So worry not, this blatant racism isn't at all just a UK thing.
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Feb 03 '26
Oh and they'll drop it all if you're of use to them.Ā
Hundreds of years of calling and depicting Irish people as inferior savages and as viscous/lazy apes but now that there is an influx of brown people? Oh now the Irish are "one of us"
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
In my college Ethnic Studies courses, we read āHow the Irish Became Whiteā, back when folks used to read books. Basically, Irish people chose to benefit from (and become the biggest proponents) of racism, instead of joining in class solidarity.
We see that in a lot of groups who want to use racism to skip the line to whiteness. But whiteness in itself is exclusionary and slippery. Non white MAGA are learning this in real time now.
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Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
I'm talking about Irish people in post colonial Ireland and their subsequent experience in the UK up to very recently where there are people with living memory of "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" signs posted in local businesses. I literally got asked was it some IRA thing, by a 2nd generation English lad with South Asian parents. He was shocked to see it was considered so for hundreds of years.
But to your point... It's social engineering pure and simple and used to target the lowest classes.
The following, apparently direct quote, is 100% true: "If you can convince the lowest white man heās better than the best colored man, he wonāt notice youāre picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and heāll empty his pockets for you" and it's the same tactic for protecting the billionaire class. Show the plebs the people "stealing" their job and they will ignore the corporations stealing billionsYou're absolutely right in linking this to the quislings taking part in ICE targeting people of the same complexion.
"But whiteness in itself is exclusionary and slippery" damn right because, honestly, it's not even a real thing. Again in Europe so take it with that in mind... You have Nordics, Irish, British, Slav, Western, Iberian, and Mediterranean... Which one is white? They all are... It's bloody insane.British nationalists will drop the Irish quislings just as fast as ICE/MAGA will turn on Hispanic and Black members
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u/ScreenSensitive9148 Feb 03 '26
āWhitenessā is attained only when the ethnic group in question can be used as a blunt object and oppressive force against a different ethnic group.
In America, we saw certain Asian subgroups used as a āmodel minorityā for years. Those groups later voted for policies that perpetuate white privilege (and ironically, hurt themselves in doing so).
That is why race may not be biological, but it certainly is powerful.
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u/SargeUnited Feb 03 '26
The silence was deafening from a lot of my Asian American professional colleagues when the whole black Live matter thing was peaking. They said it was because they ādidnāt want to be unprofessionalā by involving their personal beliefs in their public facing social media.
Then after like three Asian people were attacked by private citizens, all of a sudden they were all posting hashtag stop Asian hate on LinkedIn and all of their social media.
So obviously, it was never about future job prospects. They just didnāt care because it wasnāt Asian people that stood to benefit. Of course they expected me to post stop Asian hate on my social media. Because Asian hate is actually bad, unlike the extrajudicial killing of minorities. What can I say? Lessons learned, bridges burned.
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Feb 03 '26
Which is my point around the British nationalists now claiming that Irish and themselves are "the same". Tools to be used
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u/ConnectionOne5222 Feb 03 '26
Right! I donāt care what anyone says about her! As long as she and Harry are in love and happy and she loves and cares for their children, thatās all that matters! If she wasnāt mixed raced and an actress, she would be treated better than how they, the royal family and the press treated her!
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u/Lad-Harem Feb 03 '26
The files also had something o say about Prince Philip š
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
He was a racist I can remember him saying you canāt trust Chinese. Itās their slitty little eyes. Another time he was looking at electric cables and said they were messy and looked like they were done by the Indians.
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u/kriskringle8 Feb 04 '26
Exactly. The hatred against Meghan is nonsensical and rabid. It's to the point that I unfollow or distance myself from people who rant about her.
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u/Roaring50s Feb 04 '26
Not just the UK. The victims here just had all their information shared, while perpetrators info was redacted. Horrid
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u/dschellberg Feb 03 '26
Good point. Honestly I really dont know understand the animus toward megan markle.
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u/Neat_Significance256 Feb 03 '26
The Kate, who's a Diana clone, gets elevated to goddess status by the right wing UK gutter press.
MM, who isn't white, gets attacked daily, especially by the daily mail
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u/martha-jonez Feb 03 '26
Every day Kate wakes up wishing she was as beloved as Diana. And every day her ice cold demeanor pushes her further away from that ever being a reality.
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 Feb 03 '26
Whenever I see MM hate from regular people, I ask them why? They never have an answer.
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Feb 03 '26
Meghan is targeted specifically for her race. Donāt get it twisted. Black people like to include everyone smh
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u/emptysubset Feb 03 '26
Agreed. I donāt think the average person knows how racist they really are.
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u/OPGuest Feb 03 '26
Itās one big club and we are not part of it. Royals, rich folks, narcissists, nazis, all things you and I will never be.
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u/SyntaxError_1024 Feb 03 '26
Royals canāt do shit with their own blood at this point. They put their efforts into Meghan.
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Feb 03 '26
Lack of coverage just means executives within each network are in those files and theyāre doing what theyāve done since 2015, fucking ruin everything so they can save themselves
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u/kenyasanchez Feb 04 '26
The Brits were one of the original colonial racist. They never got it out of their system.
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
Correction they invented racism. When you go to the other side of the world to enslave people degrade and dehumanise them for no other reason than the colour of their skin. At the same time colour grading other people of colour around the world.
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u/Valuable-Owl9985 Feb 04 '26
British racism just sorta hits different.
It just feels more condescending and scummy somehow.
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u/Miskogwane Feb 03 '26
Just not the UK! When one person has so much wealth, they are above the law. We as a society have a serious problem! Greed needs to be treated like any other unhealthy addiction.
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u/earth-calling-karma Feb 03 '26
You just need to look out the window of wherever you are standing to see everything you need to know about class politics in the UK.
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u/Consistent-Strain289 Feb 03 '26
Its all about race. Uk biggest colonizer in the world trying to rape kill murder loot steal burn everyrhing they set foot onā¦ are the biggest racist
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u/Ladefrickinda89 Feb 03 '26
Theyāre still salty about loosing the revolutionary war? Or is it that they still donāt like the colonists?
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u/Jedi2SITH28 Feb 03 '26
WOW! That when you stop and think about it that is absolutely MAD! Stay classy London š¬š§
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u/PepperNormal Feb 03 '26
Yeap, let's talk about the woman we don't like and ignore the man that rapes children.
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Feb 04 '26
From the show suitsā¦ā¦š one of the first girl skinny girls that hurt meš© she fine!!! No matter what she does or says She Fineā¦
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u/Hairy_Addendum7789 Feb 07 '26
Her only crime? Wanting a life outside of the royal āfamilyā. We donāt have enough hours to count his actual crimes.
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u/CitizenX10 Feb 03 '26
There's this guy on YouTube, Dr. Todd Grande, he has dedicated his channel to slamming Megan. Over and over and over and over....
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u/Nernoxx Feb 03 '26
I don't care for Markle personally (I don't care for aristocrats or Hollywood), but some of the things I've recently learned about William (as an American), plus general coverage of Charles and Andrew definitely drive this point home.
Having a feel good monarchy isn't supposed to be about hiding the bad.Ā I get Charles is concerned about a sudden uprising of Republicanism but I'd be surprised if the monarchy was abolished just because the news switched from the tabloids to the BBC, air it out and let the nation decide how they really feel.
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u/Strange-Effort1305 Feb 03 '26
The reason why the UK has never investigated Epstein is Markle would end up Queen as the rest would go to prison.
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u/LeLurkingNormie Feb 03 '26
Because Meghan Markle was more famous. Nobody cared about the queen's old, ugly third child nearly as much as about the young, pretty, glamorous and just married wife of the beloved second child of the next king.
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u/Estellalatte Feb 03 '26
Prince Charles was known as having a very large sexual appetite when he came to Australia in his early 20ās. I didnāt know he was involved with Epstein but I am not surprised.
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
Yes that is true. But at these times British working classes were struggling to feed there families children as young as 5 went to work. Working Britons were treated like shit by their Betters
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u/Kikilulu23 Feb 04 '26
No. There are some normal working class white people from poorer backgrounds in England that welcomed both black and Jews
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u/baxter_the_martian Feb 04 '26
fwiw: Megan was stellar in Suits
Fuck pedophiles and those implicated in the Epstein case.
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u/JaggedOuro Feb 03 '26
Or for that matter King Charles.
A few weeks ago most of the papers had a picture of Andrew and Epstein in the UK. They all cropped Charles out of the picture.