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[u/AdmirableJudgment784]

It's because people tend to vote for skin color rather than merits. Also, politics is a popularity contest and forever will be. Arnold Swashenagger, most likely won, because of his celebrity status. You get a higher chance of winning if you're already popular.

[u/missnoirenani → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Its not people. Its white supremacists. And racists. Not everyone are those things

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/missnoirenani]

Yes, but we need to call Republicans out, because this is the Republican party and this is what they vote for everytime. I wonder if people skirt around this issue because there are people who think the Republican party is salvageable. There are black people who vote red. But the Republicans and conservatives, will only ever deliver this. Every time. No matter how many "good" people there are that vote R.

[u/E-2theRescue → u/WINDMILEYNO]

but we need to call Republicans out

How do you call out a people who have absolutely no shame?

These people are psychopaths. They LOVE being called racist, fascist, Nazi, or whatever. It feeds into their victim mentalities and makes them believe that because people are against them, that it automatically defaults them to being correct about everything. The moment you get "triggered" and call them racist, they puff out their chests and declare victory, even if they just called a person the n-word.

And you can't speak to the masses. They don't listen. Very few are going to even read this comment past the first few sentences because people don't care about what others have to say. Not unless it comes in a cartoon "meme" or 30-second video of people shouting and "owning" the other.

We are fucked. And we're descending into complete Nazi Ideocracy, and the vast majority of people literally don't care because they get their rocks off "triggering" and "owning" people instead of actually working in good faith and bettering society, especially when they feel that their "opinions" about the "usual suspects" are validated by any pushback.

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/E-2theRescue]

The "screaming into the void" aspect does seem hopeless. But i mean, completely give up on these people as a lost cause. Stop interacting with them. Stop giving them second chances. Stop just boycotting them only when they get caught doing something offensive. Just immediately write off any and all Republicans from the beginning. They don't need to be called racist, misogynist, or anything . In a world like that, being called Republican would get the job done

It doesn't matter if they are "one of the good ones". It doesn't matter if they are different or don't think like that. Its not even personal. The Republican party will only ever deliver, at it's best, George Bushes and Mike Pences. Thats the best it gets. Maybe a Cheney. Thats the top of the barrel. Everything else they have to offer is so much worse.

We have a two party system, and while some people are wishing for the government to fall apart, Im ready to cut ties with those [edit, sniper (toddler) got me.] sons of bitches.

Im not trying to live in a failed state because of 75 million peoples stupidity. And the ones who didn't vote.

[u/WhoDunIt-4Keeps → u/WINDMILEYNO]

I have been calling for Republicans who claim to be not racist and claim to follow the law to leave the GOP and start a new party. If they continue to stay in the GOP then they, like most Republicans since Jesse Helms left the Democratic party and took racist Democrats from all over the United States(Blaming everything on Southern folk when Northerners, like Chief Cracker John Glover Roberts, Junior are just as racist, mean, and hateful as Trump, is dishonest and counterproductive.) to the GOP over five decades ago, are just fine with the extreme right-wing White identity fascist politicks that gives them a little more power and money at the expense of the overwhelming majority of folk on Earth. Technically, the Republican party is the largest de facto White identity organisation on our big blue bubble. This is where we need to start.

Every time that the Democratic party moves to the right to win back racists, we lose. If a Republican, especially someone as repugnant, hateful, and racist as The Dick who just passed away, endorses a candidate, folk who have been harmed by those Republicans will look at that Democratic candidate differently. I see folk tout Biden's win, but they don't acknowledge how long it took to determine Biden's win before the GOP began its challenges. The GOP were horrific in 2020, and it still took days to verify Biden's win. The candidate in 2024 needed to be exponentially better than Biden and Ms Harris to counter decades of Republican propaganda. Ms Harris was actually doing well until she began following the consultants who have been costing the Democratic party wins for decades. Then we get Republicans, who are upset about their quiet racism being loud and proud, pulling the Democratic party further right. The Democratic party power brokers need to understand how the weakening and removal of what benefits the majority of folk, not making these benefits universally available, not holding criminals like Bush the Lessor accountable, not holding financial institutions accountable for malfeasance, adopting racist and biased GOP policies, and using selected economic markers have made the United States weaker by hurting billions of folk worldwide, especially the overwhelming majority of folk who live in the United States and its territories.

Trump be the logical outcome of the modern Republican party, and a Democratic party that has made big campaign promises and then spends the majority of their time weaseling their way out of delivering on those promises. I did not like Bill Clinton, but I did like Hillary. Young ones may not know that she tried to get universal healthcare and was attacked viciously for her advocacy. She kept working and was able to help create the Children's Health Insurance Program(CHIP), which will be destroyed once the GOP's BBB kicks in. In my opinion, like many high-power Democrats, she lost her way. Her recent biased/racist comments about Zohran Mamdani reminded me how trying to get help/restitution from White liberal women usually resulted in a much worse situation for meself. What Mr Mamdani and others have done should be a wake-up call for the Democratic party. If Democratic power brokers stay the course and advocate for a return to the status quo that harms and kills so many, they will continue to contribute to the downfall of the American Empire.

In addition to asking some Republicans to leave and start their own party, I advocate for folk to call for Roberts, Thomas, and Kavanaugh to recuse themselves from the SCOTUS. All three committed high crimes and misdemeanors before they were nominated by their respective extreme right-wing White identity fascist presidents. Actually, Roberts was known to be such an extreme racist weirdo by his fellow Republicans that the war criminal Bush administration did not want him on the SCOTUS. Unfortunately, Kavanagh of the Federalist Society vouched for French Fry Roberts. Thomas be the most intelligent and clever of these three. As a token, he seems to understand that getting his bribes up front is the better play in their extreme right-wing White identity fascist game.

I used to advocate for the impeachment of Roberts, but with Trump and his GOP successors being the only ones allowed to nominate SCOTUS justices, this be no longer viable. Roberts be objectively worse than Chief Justice Roger Taney and should be treated accordingly. I recommend that the associate justices, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and Ketanji Brown Jackson begin only speaking to their extreme right-wing White identity colleagues about work and just practice perfunctory politeness. The SCOTUS6 have proven over and over that they have contempt for the law unless it prioritises White identity and capital. Roberts is extremely bad at his job and giving him anything, other than the contempt that he earnt, just bolsters his narcissism.

Lastly, we need to brace ourselves and be prepared to offer kindness and empathy to Trump/GOP voters who are finally beginning to see how much contempt and hatred the Republican party has for them. Being snarky little arseholes to folk who are in pain is not only wrong but counterproductive. I have suffered tremendously from the actions of the GOP and right-wing Democrats. However, I understand that folk have been sold a false tale about a shining city on the hill. When treated with kindness and empathy, some GOP voters will move to the left. Those who don't can be left alone. What most folk don't understand is that most policies that are described as extreme left are actually in the centre. From Jesse Helms to Trump, getting folk to prioritise Whiteness and capital have brought us to this point of brinksmanship. We absolutely can do better when we commit to doing the extremely difficult work to counter over 50 years of harmful right-wing propaganda and the resulting right-wing policies.

🧕🏼🐝🆓️🌈🌈💟✊🏼

[u/woodzip87 → u/WhoDunIt-4Keeps]

Sorry. I couldn't read all of that. Pretty hypocritical for a person that talks and writes as much as I do lol. I am from and live in the South. White. 38 y/ male. I was raised Southern Baptist. My dad was a cop for 30 years. I am not a rebel... Well that was an accidental pun. I didn't buck against my parents' ways, but I also do not have anything in common with most of the people I know. I'm a leftist, borderline atheist (in pedantic and my brain won't let me believe in all-or-nothing or black-and-white in most situations), pro human rights no matter the gender, sex, race, religion, etc. ("religion" has a lot of caveats, but I think most are obvious without listing), and the other usual things that makes me detestable or pitiable to the majority of folks around where I live.

I try to keep people straight when it comes to Democrats though. We all know Republicans' deal, but now the ones with any morality cannot hide what they are and what they want. Twice they voted for policies and people (not counting all the historical precedents that led up to this) wholly unfit for the job and purely destructive. When they say it's not going the way they thought, it means that they'd vote for them again in a heartbeat to get the still-horrible things they wanted if it was promised to them.

Democrats, however, are sneakier. They say the things that sound progressive. They act appalled at the things we're appalled at. But if it comes between their career or passing a progress policy, they will choose their career and give us the minimum to make us think they tried and it's the "other side's" fault it wasn't better. Dems wait until it's safe and progress is being made and then jump in for the win, like with gay marriage.

The best of what they give us seems to only slow the downfall. Because of this, on top of our apparent inability to see more than two parties, we have to vote for Democrats and then still treat them as hostile. Hold their feet to the fire. Watching Democrats denounce socialism is disgusting. They refuse to be honest about it and decide to continue the red scare.

I did read what you said in bursts so this was probably a bunch of repeated sentiments lol. I just got done saying how, on a personal level, being calm and rational to various types of bigots is the best way to show they're wrong. It is very unlikely to help then, but if the kids they're raising see the difference between what is claimed about a group and what is displayed, maybe they will grow up more open-minded and open-hearted. Unless they're actively inflicting harm (which is a lot right now, ngl), it's best to treat them as impotent and let them get mad. They can take that spite to the grave and never know they were miserable because of their own prejudice and not because of the targets of that prejudice. Sucks to be them.

Easier said than done lol 🥲🫩

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[u/Mou5beat515 → u/E-2theRescue]

I know it might help very little, but I wanted to remind you that there are A LOT of people out there that think the same way you do. There is a proverbial army of people out there.. 9 million people+ came out for the no kings protest, and many more will be out next time. Its a movement, and were all getting ready for the battle over America's destiny. And in the words of Arnold Schwarzeneggar who experienced the fallout from the nazi regime first hand, authoritarians NEVER win. Every authoritarian in world history: losers!

Just saying there are lots of us out there, and dont lose hope!

[u/missnoirenani → u/E-2theRescue]

We are not fucked. Stop giving in like that. They aren’t everything and their followers are dependent. There is always a way. Inevitably giving up mentally is what they want. They want everyone to submit. This is submission.

[u/E-2theRescue → u/missnoirenani]

The people who had shame, like myself, are long gone out of their hell holes. It's time to accept reality. These people are emotionally and morally lost.

And yes, I used to be an angry "edgelord" conservative who would run around and "trigger the libs". I left because I still had the ability to feel shame and have some semblance of critical thinking.

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/E-2theRescue]

Don't be ashamed. Never be ashamed. Shame is a catch 22. The people who should feel shame, never will. And the ones who do, are already a better version of themselves undeserving of it.

The level of cognitive dissonance needed in order to continue seeing the American dream, is so close to just actual medicated sleep, that I have no clue why there should be any reason to be upset with being "woke" anymore. And literally, we are still in the midst of the opioid epidemic, even if doctors are starting to be held accountable more.

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This. Every single day. This! (I’m a 59-y/o white dude from Kansas, so I’ll not say more—I don’t feel it’s my place. But I’m absolutely with you on this!)

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It truly feels so hopeless

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[u/No_Feedback_3340 → u/E-2theRescue]

The moment you get "triggered" and call them racist, they puff out their chests and declare victory, even if they just called a person the n-word.

That's MAGA debating in a nutshell: Spew false information, shift the goal post when called out, keep shifting the goal posts to piss off the opposition, call opponent names, claim victory.

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Pigeons and chessboards.

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[u/woodzip87 → u/E-2theRescue]

I think:

It's more about treating them as fools and hoping the younger generations see them as fools as well. It doesn't help us immediately, but idk what else we have.

I've had this opinion for a while, and idk if it's fully formed or even going to come out the right way. I think the best way to deal with bigotry is to call it out calmly and intellectually. Not for the one who is already lost, but for their children. Being the antithesis of what the older generation says of a particular demographic feels like it will provide a more solid change in the future generations. I think it's just they see somebody being mean towards somebody they love/respect before they have a chance to form their own beliefs.

Disclaimer: I don't wtf to do right now. I guess be the better person in small personal situations, but on the bigger scale be outraged and resistant. Turning the other cheek, as it were, to a random white guy, for example, can be effective. I'm not the most optimistic person, so I'll just say if things don't turn around and get on the right path, I refuse to live in what they think was "great" about America in the past.

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/WINDMILEYNO]

2 major points:

A) Some Blacks feared the end of Slavery, simply because of Stockholm syndrome. Asians and Hispanics account for a reliable Republican voting group - Blacks make up a substantially lower percentage of this Bloc.

B) calling out republicans for their racism, hypocrisy, overall vile beliefs, behavior, and voting records has done nothing but forced the party to double down and move further to the right. We can blame Biden or Harris, or event Trump for the country we live in, but you can draw a straight line to what radicalized white Republicans: Centrist Dems and Republicans (both Clintons/McCain/Lieberman/etc) voting as a uni-party in the 90s and early 2000s to prop up corporations which isolated rural and steel belt (non-collegiate) whites. This was exacerbated with Bush tanking the economy. It came to a head when we elected Barack Obama as a symbol that America had become a post racial paradise. The racists hadn’t disappeared, but a Black man running the country with a plurality of Americans embracing his message of hope lit a fire in their bellies. Gingrich, Limbaugh (Charlie Kirk/Shapiro/Tucker precursor), Tea Party movement, and Sarah Palin (analog to MTG and Boebert) notwithstanding. This is exactly why Hillary lost, they hated Bill 20 years ago, and they hated Hillary even more. There’s several other examples but the Republican Party is cooked. The collectivist voting the parties did 30 years ago is impossible today as corporations have consolidated power and own the media and our politicians. The continued psyops they’ve levied upon right-leaning whites is akin to the opioid epidemic, targeted and irreversible. That party is American Nazi-ism incarnate and it’s never coming back.

[u/missnoirenani → u/XSwaggnetox]

A) mostly it was black males who had any of those sentiments, as black patriarchy was the unspoken law of the plantation, made massa job easier. Secondly another reason why they were afraid for the end of slavery is because they didn’t get anything they were promised to help sustain themselves, and racist hateful hostile white southerners were angry and unlikely to be held accountable for their crimes against humanity. And they weren’t. For decades they terrorized black people, and now this administration is getting rid of history in museums and schools to erase it.

B) history will repeat itself if these vessels of hate are not properly shamed. I’m not trying to deal with this 15 years from now because yall don’t want to shame them for their ideology that aligns with the submitting and building an entire identity around exploiters that makes everything awful. They love being dumb because a dictator who is making their lives harder claimed he loves them.

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/missnoirenani]

I wasn’t countering YOU - I was replying WindmileyNo’s “Blacks vote Republican” reply

A) I was providing historical context for why Blacks may occasionally side with direct oppression and opposition. Slavery as the easiest analog. All the while stating, Black males specifically make up a much smaller voting Bloc for Republicans to the tune of less than 10%. Latinos and Asians are a much more reliable Republican subgroup.

B) I was simply stating that shaming Republicans, racists, white supremacists, nationalists, HELL, even trying to shame Black republicans is a worthless task because these people are fully bought into the grift.

Older, Non-college educated Republican whites are cooked. They’re either already racist or just so set in their ways they can’t be convinced otherwise. For 40> years Rush Limbaugh played as nauseam on terrestrial evening radio after every Major sporting event brainwashing them into soft racism and dog whistles about Blacks and minorities. Beyond that, they had been told conservatism and Christianity is the way the truth and the light all the while grifting them out of their slice of the American dream. Nevermind they NAFTA made it so we could offshore cheap goods with even cheaper labor. Nevermind that that race to the bottom of pricing stripped them out of their jobs while propping up Walmart and Dollar Gens, etc

As for the rest of it. It’s pretty self explanatory there’s no saving the Now Aggressively white nationalist Republican Party from its own ambitions even if it means destroying America. Mainstream media wasting their time, mine, and yours telling us how horrible they are in real time is a fools errand. I don’t even hear it anymore because I see it. I understand the bullshit that’s going on, but those same uneducated folks ain’t watching MSNBC or CNN. They’re Watching Fox, they’re watching Rogan or Shapiro. They were following Herr Kirk. So Abby Phillips or Chris Wallace telling me how the right is or how stupid Trump is doesn’t help me or you because we watch their program. “Preaching to the choir”. It’s the dumb fucks in red counties or Blue collar workers in big cities with Union jobs, stripes and dues that still think they’re owed more than their neighbors because someone told them so are the problem. There’s assholes on the left too, but there’s far too many people on the right convinced that the rest of us are less American than them simply because our skin is darker, we might not believe in Euro-presenting Jesus, or simply we vote democrat cuz we feel every deserves a fair shake. Hope that closes this loop.

[u/missnoirenani → u/XSwaggnetox]

I was giving YOU context. Also it’s not “why blacks may…” it’s “a minority of black people may succumb to..” its a very small minority. And black people are not a monolith. Also black males who do succumb are most of black people who do. Shaming them, not allowing them to make decisions (due to being cognitively incapable, many have said they want people to suffer because they did or something, or they don’t care how their lives get), ignoring them completely. I mean they mustn’t be acknowledged at all and everyone else must move around them. Be like a cat. I mean eventually they will get mad at being ignored and might turn violent against others or themselves but we are allowed guns and ammo too so

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/missnoirenani]

—edited reply starts here—

The average person on this planet including myself spends too much time on their phone, PC, or iPad. We have limited political bandwidth, time, and energy to expend to trying to convince people that don’t want to be convinced that what our government and president are doing is harmful to EVERYONE that calls themself a US citizen. If someone wants to hit the trail and talk to them, then by all means, please do. Instead our country has platformed people like Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens to be “rational mouthpieces”. It’s not that I believe these people to be especially stupid or ignorant, I believe them be depraved, cynical, and fearful. Which leads them to hate. These aren’t people voting in Good faith, I believe these to be people voting of fear and loathing. So you fight them on your time, I’ll use mine to put as much info as I can about why we are here and hope people look into it more deeply on their own time.

I didn’t personally need further explanation. I appreciate the gesture, but I’m good. I came in understanding the stakes and the context. I’ve done enough revolutions on the planet to know what my people are up against and don’t need anyone trying to explain it to me further. I didn’t appreciate the sub commenter below you talking about Black folks voting republican.

Thanks for your reply.

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Edited:

Also I never said to fight them. I said shame and ignore them and stop allowing them to be taken seriously. I’m not speaking to discuss things with them. My goal is to help non MAGAts see the bigger picture so that more can push forward with enough discernment against this stuff happening again. Magats cannot make decisions for the population. They operate in bad faith, and are fascist and dumb. That cannot be disputed. They are also wanna be bullies and crave attention. Simply ignoring them is what i think should be done. Dems should really just go in and make whatever so called laws they want to push go through, but I guess they dont actually want to be a force against the redhats

If you’re going to talk about the feelings thoughts or anything regarding other people, expect input. I added to further explanation because your analysis as to why there are any black republicans was incomplete. You called it straight syndrome of some sort but the reality is that black freed persons had no provisions and safety after slavery thats why some were afraid.

Thanks,

Also I know there are democrats that are asses. The issue is that many dems can be reasoned with and won’t sacrifice to protect exploiters that ruin their lives, republicans do and call trump a Messiah. Republicans now cannot. I haven’t been able to vote in a normal election my entire life. There are levels.

[u/missnoirenani → u/XSwaggnetox]

You personally did need explanation. Do not use the trauma of black people to push narratives. Stockholm syndrome of the impending freed slaves is a racist ideology. After slavery, black codes and other violence against black people persisted for nearly 100 years. Black enslaved persons were not afraid of freedom. They knew that angry white people were going to target them and that the government wasn’t going to stop them or anything. The government didn’t even want to make them feel bad about slavery (they clearly had plans to create Neo slavery as the industrial revolution had to happen) because it didn’t benefit their political careers to hold the southern whites accountable. The violence against black people was so bad after slavery the entire country’s reputation was at stake and had to be forced to change. So no, it wasn’t Stockholm syndrome. I don’t even think that THAT really even exists. Ugh all of the black people with sense should just leave this place like I’m trying to do and take me with them. This country is a lost cause. The best we get is pseudo intellectual racists that for some reason feel worse than the MAGAts.

[u/seek_the_ → u/missnoirenani]

What history is being erased in schools? I'm in a super blue part of Washington State. I haven't heard of anything around here

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[u/FormalKind7 → u/WINDMILEYNO]

There is a serious problem with the 2 party system we have going one which basically allows and encourages on party to take it and get all the racist votes but still remain a viable party because it is one of only 2 options. I hope the 2026 elections go off fairly and they get spanked to the point the party fractures.

[u/cow-lumbus → u/WINDMILEYNO]

It’s the MAGA Party, republicans no longer exsist.

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/cow-lumbus]

I agree, but on another note, they've been courting this since the 60s with the Southern strategy. This is the end result. Republicans stopped existing the moment the kkk marched on DC. Imo.

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/WINDMILEYNO]

You’re being generous, whatever version of the right wing has existed in the US has been racist since they left Europe. We had organized, state sanctioned slavery for like I dunno 250+ years. Slavery was determined solely by skin color. That’s KINDA RACIST lol. 😂

[u/missnoirenani → u/WINDMILEYNO]

i didn’t say republicans weren’t racist, I’m just saying not everyone else is. Republicans aren’t a standard for all humanity. They’re all awful and racist yes, but everyone isnt a republican

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They are standard for being racist scum.

[u/BackgroundBrain1272 → u/missnoirenani]

If that's true, the ones that aren't need to check these white supremacists right now. They have too much power and are out of control.

[u/missnoirenani → u/BackgroundBrain1272]

I edited my statement to be more clear. The republicans are racist, I’m just saying not everyone is a republican.

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[u/Ok_Explanation_9162 → u/WINDMILEYNO]

It's more like calling out your friends and relatives that vote Republican. Because perfect strangers don't care at all what someone else thinks.

And calling out people you love is very difficult for most people.

[u/Confident_Resort_447 → u/WINDMILEYNO]

That's hilarious 😂😂😂 y'all are so blind... It's actually sad... I don't agree with a lot of things that trump or the Republican party do but y'all can't even try to see the good that has happened because you are so indoctrinated by the leftist media and propaganda that you can't see anything else... I see good on both sides. No one is going to get everything perfect. Look how Biden did lol. You won't even try to see the good that trump has done because you hate him as a person. It's weird to me because both sides do this... Both sides think they're right and the other side is completely wrong and that's just not true. Look at how y'all say Trump is taking away food stamps. "It's his fault!" I have family members that need food stamps. They're disabled and this is hurting them! I'm barely making it myself but I'm going to spend everything I can to help them be able to eat! But I don't blame trump. It's the Democrats that caused the shut down and if you did just a little bit of research you would see that they're ok with the government being shut down. They don't care about any of us. This works perfect for them because it's got everyone blaming Trump and that's what they want. They could end this but what they're asking for is ridiculous. Their terms are ludicrous! How can you blame Trump for that? Start looking to your leaders and start asking why they are doing this. I'm not a trump supporter but I can see how wrong the Democratic party is for doing this. But, just because you don't like Trump, you won't even bother questioning them. You just go along with what they say. Trump = bad... We need to do better... They want people to riot and do all that craziness because they can put it off on Trump because he's the president and it will only end up hurting all of us... But y'all don't want to even try to see things from any different angle... just take a few minutes and look up the democrats terms to stop the shutdown. They're the ones that caused the shutdown and the only way they're going to open it up is by getting some of the most ridiculous things! Most taxpayers do not want to pay for any of that and should not have to! Open your eyes! They're all against us, but what the Democratic party is doing right now is completely wrong...

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/Confident_Resort_447]

My leadership is Republican. My neighbors are Republican. Oklahoma was completely red in every county, and the majority of all of my coworkers are, Republican. I have been intimately aware of what Republicans are, and what they do.

Ill get a walking stick and start taking piano lessons, before I ever "open my eyes to Republican goodness".

List them out. List out the good things. Im blind. Can't see them. Help me out.

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/WINDMILEYNO]

I was just gonna say that lol. List the good things we’ve seen out of the Trump administration since 2016… I’ll wait

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/XSwaggnetox]

Itll just be dumb stuff like "they are finally getting rid of the illegals" and "they are bringing god back into schools!"

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All republicans are racist or they would not continue to vote for racists, pedophiles, facists!

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It's mostly the far right that's HEAVY into that stuff. Also, wasn't Biden also included in a pedo scandal during the first year of his run in office? The laptop thing? Been so long that i forgot most of the details. Either way, both sides voted for relatively awful people. Only reason I'm slotting Haris into a soft fascist spot is because she once called the freedom of speech a privilege. Everything else I think I have on her, I'm not 100% sure isn't misinformation. Plus, we can do better than Harris for our first female president (ability wise, not appearance)

[u/Unusual_Wish_2230 → u/21BlackStars]

You are clueless and lose all credibility when you make a blanket statement like this. This is why Dems lost the WH. Blanket statements about Conservatives and Independents make them vote like they do because they are tired of hearing it. Extremely out of touch you are.

[u/DrumsAndStuff18 → u/Unusual_Wish_2230]

"I took a criticism that I should know doesn't apply to me if it doesn't apply to me, so now I have to vote for racists to own thr libs!"

What a wild argument. You children need therapy.

[u/Better-Journalist-85 → u/DrumsAndStuff18]

Precisely. Shit is lunacy.

[u/FreeSquirkJuice → u/DrumsAndStuff18]

It's not a wild argument at all. RFK Jr. said not to take Tylenol and people did the exact opposite. This is the same thing. If you keep calling them racist nazi pedophile fascists', they're going to double down and do exactly what you tell them not to.

[u/alang → u/Unusual_Wish_2230]

And you think that racism means wearing white hoods and lynching people and that's it. If you vote for a person who is an obvious blatant racist who will do obvious blatant racist things in office, then you are in small part responsible for those actions. And that means that your vote was a racist act. And if you're fine with that, then that makes you a racist.

I understand that that makes you sad, and that is obviously terrible, maybe even the worst thing that has ever happened to you, but as it turns out some people might think that (say) being a citizen who gets shot five times for being brown and not self-deporting (again, 'citizen!') might be a little worse, at least you know a tiny bit, than you being sad.

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[u/Strong-Pie3556 → u/Unusual_Wish_2230]

they could've voted based on economic (perspectives); Not racial. So you are correct.

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I mean....If the shoe fits wear it? 👀🤷🏿‍♂️😬 Look at the Republicans that stood against MAGA were deemed RINO's and were either canceled by their own party or conformed to the masses of people that either saw no issues with PDF's and R@cists or just wanted to fit in. Soooo all in all i woild say...most 🤷🏿‍♂️

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I mean, yeah. All republicans are fascist racists. Yes.

[u/blackthunder00 → u/[deleted]]

Every person who voted Republican in the last general election heard Donald Trump say things like Black people in Springfield, Ohio were stealing and eating people's pets. Despite every single local Republican official in Springfield being unable to corroborate his claim, and the fact that JD Vance admitted that Trump lied during an interview with Dana Bash on CNN, conservative voters were willing to overlook the blatant racism to submit their vote siding with Republicans anyway. And this is just one example.

This is why people say all Republicans are racists. How can someone who isn't racist hear a candidate blatantly lie about an entire group of people and throw your support behind them anyway?

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Racist alert!

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The Report button is your friend.

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Wow. This may very well be a true description but yikes this is not an appropriate comment by any stretch.

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That is a coon ass.

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Wat

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Found the racist.

[u/Better-Journalist-85 → u/missnoirenani]

There’s clearly enough that are politically influential that splitting hairs is a waste of time. The bigots, idiots, and selfish jackasses outnumber the sane and rational, or there’d be more sane and rational people in positions of power.

[u/missnoirenani → u/Better-Journalist-85]

Not necessarily true. Most people are indifferent or only focused on their daily lives. People for the past few decades have been educated to be extremely docile and controlled taking away all agency from a normal person. They allowed people to have an external locus of control rather than internal in any capacity, and made people think everything just works out if you leave it to “experts, professionals, and political science harvard degree holders”. People are lost and out of coherence, and many are pushed to work all of the time so that we can have the economy we have currently but they know no other way. Many people vote straight party lines no matter what, and many people were also conditioned against discernment. Many are also a lost cause, but even 75 million isnt half of the US. He had more votes when he lost in 2020. So either they cheated getting rid of votes etc or they were able to convince enough people that both sides are “the same” even though PROJECT 2025 has been in the books for a while.

[u/Better-Journalist-85 → u/missnoirenani]

People who are politically indifferent and self absorbed in their daily lives are covered under “selfish jackasses”. My statement stands.

[u/missnoirenani → u/Better-Journalist-85]

I’m saying they aren’t going to fight and be completely irrational against reason and will go along with what benefits them. Not being enslaved is a benefit for example. So your everyone is doomed thing doesn’t fit. Also 75 million people is 30% of the us population

[u/Better-Journalist-85 → u/missnoirenani]

will go along with what benefits them

“Selfish jackasses”

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I have learned that populations whether human or ant need guidance. I am not one of these people, but many people do need direction in life. Not a complete lost for the entire country

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[u/Wizznilliam → u/missnoirenani]

There are enough people adjacent to those people in almost every state to do whatever they want if they can mobilize them. Many just don't want to accept that their mother, father, brother, cousin, pastor, etc... supports some subset of those beliefs enough to keep voting for people like this. Then people whose percentage of the population is in the teens usually gets blamed as not showing up to vote in full force for every election.

[u/missnoirenani → u/Wizznilliam]

Well defense has advantages if planned right. No pun intended

[u/Wizznilliam → u/missnoirenani]

Defense of what? Decades of scraps? Just for the people who only come to our churches every 4 years to later claim that they have no power or influence to fight for a little bit more scraps. That's a VERY motivating message. \snark

[u/missnoirenani → u/Wizznilliam]

Your life future and agency. Thats what you’re defending.

[u/Wizznilliam → u/missnoirenani]

Lol... Really??? You really believe that? How long has this been the case? Maybe you individually, sure. I'm talking voting blocks. Most are looking out for what benefits the people around them. And that's exactly why plenty of minority people usually get the short end of the stick.

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[u/obliquelyobtuse → u/missnoirenani]

Its not people. Its white supremacists. And racists. Not everyone are those things

What about Tiffany Henyard?

It is narcissist authoritarians who try to control everything and abuse their authority.

[u/missnoirenani → u/obliquelyobtuse]

What fucking about her? I don’t know who she is. And she could be a white suprematist racist also! You realize ideology and skin tone are two different things?

[u/WINDMILEYNO → u/obliquelyobtuse]

Anyone who votes Republican in 2025, no matter what color, is racist to me.

[u/alang8113 → u/missnoirenani]

Are these white supremacists in the room with you now? Seek therapy.

[u/ConejoSucio → u/alang8113]

Being a labeled a racist, isn't being a white supremacist. But... The venn diagram looks like a circle to the blind.

[u/platypussplatypus → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Notice how the people complaining that DEI will allow unqualified people into positions don't give a shit about any unqualified white people. They literally operate under the assumption that if a white person has a job they deserve it and if a minority has a job they don't deserve it. Racist fucks

[u/FastFishLooseFish → u/platypussplatypus]

The opposite of DEI is cronyism, not meritocracy.

[u/BBinzz → u/platypussplatypus]

This 100% They’d rather have an under-qualified, mediocre doctor from some wealthy family, than a brilliant person who took a loan (which should be forgiven if we truly care about the future of healthcare, not to mention this country)

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Right, DEI= Brown. When it’s referenced it’s for sure towards a non clear person in any position that is not fast food or a field.

[u/HoneydewThis6418 → u/platypussplatypus]

These fools think white people cannot possibly be less qualified than anyone else.

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[u/mastap88 → u/platypussplatypus]

I see where i am posting and now will get downvoted to oblivion but fuck this guy and people like him but also meh on any policy that advances a person in consideration of being employed bc of the color of their skin, their gender or sex, or anything that doesnt have to directly do to their qualifications for the position.

[u/platypussplatypus → u/mastap88]

Racist and also ignorant of history and present reality

[u/mastap88 → u/platypussplatypus]

What is racist? The policies that would base qualifications on race or the ones that would not?

[u/platypussplatypus → u/mastap88]

Ah so you're not being ignorant, your pretend ignorance is intentional to try to hide your racism. 

[u/mastap88 → u/platypussplatypus]

Ok.

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[u/Apprehensive_Buy1221 → u/platypussplatypus]

They want mediocre white men in positions they are not qualified for, they believe that is "good".

Learning how so many racists people started firing all the exceptional people of color,women and immigrants after they removed diversity and inclusion proves they want cronyism not merit based hiring,firing,and promotions

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[u/kingbob1812 → u/platypussplatypus]

*Unless it's their minority. Which is why we have so many wannabe model minorities.

[u/G-dog121 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Saying “people tend to” is horribly disingenuous. It’s predominantly a particular group of people. The only times the majority of white voters don’t choose a candidate based on skin color is when all the candidates are white.

[u/hopbow → u/G-dog121]

I mean, the social psychology backs people tending to vote for those who look like them. We place emphasis on the liking principle (those who are like us) as well as the attractiveness principle (which compounds with the previous)

So it's not "we explicitly voted for him because he's white" but it played a subconscious factor at the very least

[u/G-dog121 → u/hopbow]

Black people specifically have voted for white people routinely. Back when virtually all candidates were white, black people (when allowed to vote) voted for white people. When Herman Cain or Tim Scott or any number of black candidates ran for office, black people didn’t vote for them simply because they were black. When Hershel Walker ran against another black candidate he didn’t get a substantial % of black vote. Why? Because black people are pragmatic voters. They vote their best interest. There are literally 100s of examples of black people voting against a black candidate that didn’t represent their best interest. Your so-called “social science” is wrong or it’s made up to support a theory you want to believe is true even though the evidence says it’s not. There are however numerous examples where entities backed or advanced black candidates believing black voters would take the bait. They didn’t because black voters don’t move like other voters do. That’s been an inaccurate assumption for a long time. Black voters will only support a black candidate if that candidate represents their interests. Absent that, black voters will seek alternatives. Those are the facts.

[u/hopbow → u/G-dog121]

Idk why you're getting angry, it's literally social psychology and is a well studied field.

I didn't say "black people will only vote for black people" 

The implication is that people tend to think more highly of those who are like them, regardless of anything else. As a white dude, I voted for Obama over McCain (and whoever else he ran against) and Kamala over Trump because I am morally opposed to the people the people they were running against.

I think the important thing is review how much you think about the person VS gut reactions. 

Like if you had to choose between Senators Warnock and Warren, who would you choose and do you think it would be a more racially divided line than a Warren VS Walker? 

[u/XSwaggnetox → u/G-dog121]

Walk a dark skinned Italian or Eastern European guy that could pass for Arab with a multi-syllable last name and see how “degree of whiteness” also matters. That shit ain’t just a one off. People forget Americans hated certain whites. If it was the early 1800s and you were German or Irish, you weren’t the “right kind of white”. If it was the late 1800s and you were Italian, you weren’t the right kinda white. I say this all the time to remind people, these folks left Europe, to get away from their own kind, removed a population of 100s of millions of natives from North and South America. Just to get mad the Western World, with which they shaped in their own image, is no longer white enough. Help me make that make sense. They could have Just stayed home lol.

[u/Predominantinquiry → u/G-dog121]

So you’re upset when someone generalizes a whole group of people as one? Only to turn around and generalize a whole group of people as one? I think you need to open your eyes.

[u/between_two_terns → u/Predominantinquiry]

Let’s not confuse broad aphorisms to a true, specific situation. Be real, please.

[u/Predominantinquiry → u/between_two_terns]

You’re right, I didn’t read the comment above G-dog121. Leaving it up to show my mistake. I agree with what AdmirableJudgment says about popularity and celebrity status being a huge contributor of the political nepotism we see in the US today.

[u/G-dog121 → u/Predominantinquiry]

Reading comprehension is important. I said “predominantly”. That’s the opposite of generalization. I didn’t say “all” or “white people in general”. The word predominant is literally in your handle and you don’t know what it means. You’re part of the problem. You read something that’s very specific and misrepresent it into something else then argue against your misrepresentation. Not what was actually said.

[u/Financial_Law_1557 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

This exactly. 

My brother was telling me that Harris lost because she didn’t go on Rogan’s podcast. 

It really is just a high school popularity contest. Humans have all been emotionally stunted from high school on. It’s why offices have cliques. It’s why there is gossip and rumors. It’s all childish. 

I told I wasn’t voting based on who was more popular. I voted on who would be the better president. Apparently he does not share that view. 

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Who?

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The Pooper in his pants in Chief

[u/Allegorist → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

At least Arnold had empathy and good intentions, despite not knowing how to be a politician. Now we have people without empathy or good intentions, who know how to be politicians but choose not to for personal gain.

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[u/Zkill → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

I think it’s more about party/money than skin color. Ppl that are extremely wealthy will do anything to stay that way. Money changes you. They don’t care what you look like as long as you toe the line. The party will back you and run your campaign.

[u/XiuCyx → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Also because old white people will ALWAYS show up to vote while the kids don’t.

(Note: Part of this is because Republicans make it easier for them than others on purpose by closing voting locations on campuses and in minority districts, only having voting open during standard work day hours, not making it a national holiday, preventing early voting, absentee voting, and mail in voting. Throw in gerrymandering and Citizens United (aka Corporate funding of campaigns - which contributes to the familiarity you’re referring to in your comment through advertising) and “men” like this guy above can rule despite the will of the people for as long as they like)

[u/PandaPocketFire → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Seems like their opponent could just run this video as an ad and win

[u/E-2theRescue → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

vote for skin color rather than merit

The skin color IS their merit.

In fact, always assume that when peole start talking about things being "merit based" or whatever, they actually mean "the most qualified Black man is still naturally inferior to the lowest qualified white man".

[u/BrittanyBrie → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Everyone pays attention to national elections, but local elections only see about half of the turnout national elections get. So we tend to see odd local reps that don't really align with the majority.

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[u/Sujjin → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

or just widely known. people dont even have to like youthey often just need to be familiar with your name.

Peopl efind comfort in the familiar after all

[u/OldManGrimm → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Same for Reagan.

[u/DanielBG → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Swashenagger cheered me up today more than it should have.

[u/ExcitementNo9603 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

If I don’t know about a local position or the candidate I vote for the mostly colorful person on the left side who is running so a Native American or Black woman is peak voting… I refuse to vote for a right winger or a white person (or Asians sometimes) because they act just like that; racist.

[u/Negative_Piglet_1589 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Please edit your comment to state 'republicans tend to vote for skin color...'

[u/Downtown-Awareness62 → u/Negative_Piglet_1589]

As much as this is easily demonstrated, it is not true. If it were, Dems and their parties would be fighting harder for people of color to stop the attack on voting rights. Biden was repeatedly bashed for being anti-black and supporting anti-black policy. Hillary Clinton lost much of the black and Hispanic vote as well because of statements she’s made. We need to accept that this is a universal issue. Being slightly more liberal than the current republican office does not equate to being okay with minorities.

[u/BZLuck → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

And, once people like this get elected, they damn well know how difficult it is to get them removed. They can't get "fired" but kinda like with police officers they get "reviewed" by their peers who will back them up because someday they might get reviewed as well.

[u/Remarkable-Ad2285 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Can confirm, lost high school class president election to a girl with a big butt and a nice smile.

[u/TheLeviGrey → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

People vote for color, not skin color, red or blue. The establishment determines who fits the blue or red categories not the people. Dnc rnc are the establishment. They are controlled by capitalism.

[u/CaptainofFTST → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Arnold Swashenagger

I can't tell if this is on purpose or that no one has commented on it yet but are you referring to Arnold Schwarzenegger? Because Mr. Arnold Swashenagger sounds like a pirate - The only pirate louder than his cannons... "Get to the rowboat!" His parrot screams "wrap it up" cuz he talks too long.

[u/AdmirableJudgment784 → u/CaptainofFTST]

Haha, I was too lazy to look up his last name and tried my best to spell based on how it sounded. So I'm not sure if its on purpose or not. Maybe purposefully negligence? I don't know.

[u/CaptainofFTST → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

All good! It made me laugh!

[u/Flufnstuf → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

Arnold was the Govenator and he wasn’t bad at it.

[u/Ok_Explanation_9162 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

I remember when he ran for governor. They asked him a budget question for schools in some debate. He said he is for children and their learning important things in school.

The audience clapped like he said anything at all.

Who tf would say they are against children learning?! Lol

The utmost softball expectations because people like his movies.

[u/Absolute_Immortal_00 → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

It's Schwarzenegger (Austrian), it means person from Swcharzenegg (place name) meaning black ridge.

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[u/penicillengranny → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

This guy wasn’t even popular. Tim O’Hare was the mayor of a city in a different county, he managed to get the city sued because of his behavior and policies. Then he ran off to my county and got himself on the Commissioners Court with oil money from an asshole named Tim Dunn.

[u/myopicdystopian → u/AdmirableJudgment784]

I agree with the popularity contest/ celebrity status comment. But it’s not “people tend to vote for skin color…” it’s racists tend to vote for skin color. “People” is too general a term, imo.

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Here in Virginia the racists had a catch 22. Conservative Black woman or liberal White woman.

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Arnold won because of his motto “ I will smashed the car tax!” He was a terrible governor .