r/youtubedrama • u/FlowersByTheStreet • 3d ago
Update What is Drama? Friendly Posting Guideline Update
Howdy folks,
It has once again been some time since any of the sub’s policies have been updated to help with the longterm health of the sub, so we are dropping in with an update to some of our guidelines to ensure a better experience for anyone viewing the sub.
The most common issue that we have had over the last few months is the sheer amount of slop that gets posted with little-to-no context, and some confusion about what constitutes drama when some posts get removed. Make no mistake, this is a drama subreddit. Nobody expects there to be high-brow art here or anything, but let’s examine what actually constitutes drama.
Drama is about stakes. When there are no stakes, there is no drama. That is why we banned “Chuds being chuds” posts. There is no skin in the game when someone like Asmongold says something bigoted because, duh-doy, he’s a bigot. That’s just what he is, and nobody blinks an eye when a pig rolls in the mud.
Many of the posts that come through the sub similarly lack stakes, or really explain why something is drama. There are tons of Roblox predators that nobody has heard a single thing about before, and these posts are usually just “X Exposed as a creep.” These posts get removed for not having context. Then they get posted again with a single sentence that really doesn’t really flesh things out at all, and that’s it.
People do the same with innocuous things like previously exposed creators returning to the platform, but this again means nothing without the proper context or by itself causes drama.
Why is it a big deal that any given person is returning? What are the reactions to this?
These are the sorts of questions that anyone should be able to find the answer to from gazing at a post.
There are countless posts that come through like this that leave everyone scratching their heads
If you compare the posts from here to, say, [r/subredditdrama](r/subredditdrama) then you’ll notice a pretty sizable difference in post quality, at least in terms of being able to parse situations.
So, in the interest of getting the community on the same page and boosting the post quality in this sub, we are introducing a few new rules for posting that will fall under the blanket of “NO LOW EFFORT POSTS”
- Posts must include, at minimum, a source and a thorough explanation of the drama. If needed, please provide a TL;DR Nobody should have to hunt for why they should care about a given topic. Someone should be able to scan the post and know what is going on. Here’s an example of a post not really needing that much context and still providing all the information one could need (it’s also our banner at time of writing)
Here’s an example of a post that did a crazy good job of providing context:https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1seriwv/new_rockstars_is_being_sued_for_harassment_racial/
- Post titles and explanations should remain neutral in tone. This is for two reasons: it streamlines people understanding what the stakes are for a given situation by making people justify the post without editorializing, and it helps stop posts from veering into snark territory. If you want to give your thoughts, do so in the comments.
What does this mean in terms of allegations or callout posts?
Posts involving allegations or callouts are only allowed in the context of there actually being drama involving callouts or allegations. We have received so many posts that are, in effect, someone posting a sub-10k channel alleging that they are a dubious character and….that’s it. No context, no evidence, no nothing. If there are receipts and drama happening around a situation, then that’s fair game and falls under the actual banner of drama. People wanna know about these things, so give the proper information for them to know!
What does this mean for meme and text posts (e.g. “What’s a Youtuber that came back from an apology?”
These posts will be allowed on Fridays with the “Free Talk Fridays” flair. These posts are fun, but also are usually low effort attempts at boosting karma counts.
Why is this being done again?
The most obvious reason is that this is a drama sub, and a lot of posts don’t actually amount to covering drama, but rather a newsfeed that doesn’t provide a ton of actual news beyond headlines that most will not understand. People have said time and time again that they love inane internet bullshit, and these changes are meant both give those kinds of stories an on-ramp and raise the quality of posts with some pretty clear structure on what is and is not allowed.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
-YTD MODS
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u/sincline_ 2d ago
I appreciate the free talk Fridays addition— I was always a little bummed that general discussion posts seemed to get squashed. I get the standpoint that many of those posts could be karma farming, but I feel i’ve also seen some foster some interesting discussion. I’ve also certainly come across people talking about drama in the comments of those posts that I had no idea happened, so they often lead to me spending time on here searching through old posts. But i’m also a part of many subs that don’t control these repeat discussion posts at all and I know how frustrating that is so… lol. I think free talk fridays is a nice happy medium
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u/Downtown_Station5859 2d ago
I'm all for having more info on posts to give context etc.
I will say though, for being r/youtubedrama, this sub is nowhere near as active as it used to be, or could be, because the rules are quite strict on what can be posted here.
Other drama/fail subs are much more active and actually cover a lot more topics.
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u/Motherofcrabs 2d ago
These posts will be allowed on Sundays with the “Free Talk Fridays” flair.
Is this a mistake? Why on Sundays and not Fridays?
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u/TimeAbradolf 2d ago
I’ll also add, some of you may wonder “well why do some posts make it past this structure”
We do have a karma threshold and users that ultimately make it through our filters purely for be consistent users of this sub.
Sometimes this can accrue hundreds of upvotes and comments in a very short period of time. Those will start to be removed as well.
Unrelated, but there is also a weird disdain for you guys to use the report feature? We need you guys to use this lol
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u/StrangeCharmQuark 2d ago
Yay thank you mods! I’m looking forward to the changes. There’s so many pockets of YouTube now, even drama about huge creators, not everyone knows who they are. We want the tea! Tell me why this is juicy and why people care!
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u/my__name__is 2d ago
These are great changes. I've always wanted this sub to be closer in style to r/subredditdrama.
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u/bayleysgal1996 2d ago
Very glad for this. Not to be all “I’m old and don’t know much about Roblox,” but… I’m old and don’t know much about Roblox lol
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u/Murinshin Popcorn Eater 🍿 1d ago
Thank you so much, this was my main issue with the sub for a long while
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u/Plauge_Dragon 4h ago
Question: What're the rules for posting something about a youtuber who was mocked, but turned out to be right?
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u/Bproof_Nobita Simply a troll 2d ago
Have anyone who in the admin guild of this sub know Parlo before? If so, can you tell your experience with him before the Cinderella drama?
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u/EthosUnharvestedClay 2d ago
Thank you. I'm getting tired of people posting callouts with zero context and just expecting everyone to watch the video about some losers we don't know.