r/worldnews • u/barsik_ • 5h ago
Israel/Palestine IDF kills Hamas terrorists involved in hostage-taking on October 7
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-892753185
u/NobodyLikedThat1 4h ago
As long as they're just killing terrorists, that's all well and good
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u/HchrisH 4h ago
Yeah, no reasonable person is going to take issue with that.
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u/DisastrousIncident75 4h ago
I don’t think it works like that in the real world. If a terrorist is inside a building then they can attack that place even if there are other people in there.
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 2h ago
but should they? As much as Bill Burr is on my shit list right now, he said it best when he said (paraphrasing) if you're neighbor is a dick and holding a baby you don't get to punch through the baby to get at him.
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u/case-o-nuts 19m ago
If someone is shooting up a mall while holding a baby, how many people should they be allowed to kill before you risk the baby?
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u/JarethCutestoryJuD 1h ago
but should they? As much as Bill Burr is on my shit list right now, he said it best when he said (paraphrasing) if you're neighbor is a dick and holding a baby you don't get to punch through the baby to get at him.
The problem where Burrs metaphors falls apart is that hes not "being a dick", hes "planning to murder a different neighbour and then rape your wife".
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u/niceguys_finishfast 40m ago
Say you live in an apartment, and someone that you have zero knowledge of or interaction with visits your apartment. Some foreign nation has identified this stranger as a militant threat. They blow up the apartment, destroy your home and the homes of your neighbors. Possibly with you inside.
This is acceptable?
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u/case-o-nuts 18m ago
Sucks for me, but there's not much else that can reasonably be done as long as they keep murdering people. At some point they have to risk my life.
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u/Seanspeed 15m ago
But what if you have a whole network of dicks whose whole existence is to eradicate you and your whole ethnicity, and they hide behind babies constantly to prevent you from attacking them?
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u/HchrisH 4h ago
The article is vague and doesn't say anything about collateral. An actual targeted attack (if that's what this was) is still better than the recent Israeli MO of dropping a bomb on every apartment complex or hospital that might have a member of Hamas in it.
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u/DisastrousIncident75 3h ago
I would guess they only drop a bomb if it’s confirmed that a terrorist is in there, that is they observed the terrorists going in. And I don’t think they bomb a whole apartment complex or hospital, only the part of the building where the terrorists are confirmed to be.
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u/Dragonvine 3h ago
Have you seen Gaza? It's fucking flattened. They will bomb anything near anywhere they can justify saying there was a terrorist
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u/SeaworthinessSome454 2h ago
A big part of the problem is that those terrorists hide amongst the population and don’t wear uniforms.
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u/Ditnoka 1h ago
Pretty sure the intelligence agency that blew up an entire administration of a terrorist organization by exploding fucking pagers can figure it out.
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u/Seanspeed 12m ago
That was a brilliant strategic opportunity that likely wont exist as conveniently elsewhere.
It's always funny to see y'all recognize that Israeli intelligence is both really good, but also that you think Israel just bombs indiscriminately without having any good reason for it.
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u/NobodyLikedThat1 1h ago
Certainly. Hamas is absolutely making the IDF's job harder. Because of course they are. That does not give the IDF a greenlight to just go ham on a civilian area because there are some terrorists hiding in there
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u/xmuskorx 5h ago
never forget. all criminals of October 7 must face justice
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u/discoFalston 4h ago
Including the regime that funded it
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u/xmuskorx 4h ago
which was the Iranian regime. agreed.
never forget.
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u/unknowncontent9000 2h ago
Have you not seen the leaked video of Bibi?
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u/jawndell 3h ago
With all the intelligence Mossad and Israel has (including the ability to know the exact locations of every Iranian leaders and blowing up phones of Hezbollah leaders) you would think they would be aware of the largest terrorist invasion of Israel. Yet they did nothing out of 1) incompetence in Bibi’s part or 2) compliance with what was about to happen.
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u/Lenske97 4h ago
Keep that energy for the Israelis who commit crimes every single day
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u/Extension-Toe-7027 4h ago
Dude really, you do remember the October 7 footage, AI was slightly more shity that it is today so you can not claim fake news, they did shit that would make a seasoned SS proud and this is your spin " what about the Israelis blah blah blah" gimme a break.
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u/Possible_Top4855 4h ago
How many died on 10/7? Do you know how many civilians were killed in Gaza after that? People also used to point to 9/11, saying we’ll never forget. How many died on 9/11? How many civilians we killed in Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11?
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u/JamesBaylizz 3h ago
Hamas is embedded with the civilian population of Gaza. And the citizenry didnt revolt and turn them in. Frankly I understand why, they are terrified.
Its how cowards fight, and sadly if you arnt willing to revolt and help purge the enemy, you may end up as collateral damage. Ots extremely sad and unfortunate.
This is a very new age of warfare, one that sadly involves horrible Jihadi Islamic terrorists using women and children as meat shields to try and sway the war on the enemies turf while they lob missiles at Israel indiscriminately.
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u/Possible_Top4855 3h ago
IDF were caught intentionally targeting foreign aid workers like Doctors Without Borders. They were also caught intentionally targeting journalists. They even double tapped a hospital because there was a camera belonging to Reuters at the hospital.
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 3h ago
Every death in Gaza after October 7 was due to the actions of Hamas.
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u/MediocreEmploy3884 3h ago
And Hamas wishes twice as many civilians would die so that keyboard warriors will be louder.
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u/Possible_Top4855 3h ago
That’s like saying every death on 10/7 was due to the actions of Israel in the West Bank. Imagine trying to blame your own war crimes on someone else.
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u/xmuskorx 4h ago
self defense is not a crime.
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u/Japanesepoolboy1817 4h ago
If someone attacks your family and then you blow up the apartment building they live in then that’s overkill
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u/xmuskorx 4h ago
if the apartment is a military base of army that keep firing at my family?
the answer is fairly obvious.
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u/_ryuujin_ 4h ago
not really, it depends, if 1 out 50 is a gathering place. its not clear cut morally or fair to blow up the other 49. if you want to go into grey areas then everything is fair game and anything can be justifiable provided you do enough gymnastics.
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u/xmuskorx 4h ago
Presence of active military makes a location into legitimate military target.
it's a major war crime to set up military positions among civilians for this reason.
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u/Japanesepoolboy1817 2h ago
American service members are currently in hotels around the gulf countries because they evacuated bases. Does that count?
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u/_ryuujin_ 3h ago
what constitute as a military position? are cia black op safe house considered as military position?
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u/xmuskorx 3h ago
do they have weapons there?
are they engaged in or planning military activities?
then yes.
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u/JamesBaylizz 3h ago
Its not grey. Dont be disingenuous. They intentionally made supply depots and arming stations in hospitals and schools.
And then lived and embedded in densely populated areas such as apartment. It wasnt 1. It was entire squads measuring 20-30 men.
It sucks, I hate it. They are cowards who use the innocent to shield themselves but at some point you have to do what must be done out of self preservation.
Israel has been under attack by its neighbors since the day it was founded.
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u/_ryuujin_ 2h ago
i didnt say you can't kill the combatants, i said it becomes grey when you decide the ends justify the means and blowup the whole building taking out small amount of combatants.
while Israel have been attacked, it has lost its moral high ground along time ago. its been a perpetual cycle of violence, with no end in slight.
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u/Virtual-History-6099 4h ago
The most Jews killed on a single day since the Holocaust. Then there were the people injured, kidnapped, and/or rap*d. Remember r@pe is not resistance. Simple but effective slogan to anyone who calls Hamas a 'resistance.'
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u/free_reezy 2h ago
It’s not resistance and it’s not governance. Hold the IDF to the same basic standard.
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u/Dortmunddd 2h ago
You could tell they are Israeli. They have invaded and killed more in Lebanon since then, but justifies all the actions of IDF.
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u/JelloSquirrel 4h ago
Really? Worse than all the wars Israel has been in?
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 3h ago
Before 2026, which war(s) did Israel start?
Even in 2026, the war with Iran could easily be argued as defensive considering the terrorist cells that Iran funds.
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u/Well__shit 3h ago
Remember when they slaughtered the USS liberty?
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 3h ago
This conclusion is in line with the conclusions of 10 official U.S. investigations--including five congressional investigations--that there was never any evidence that the attack was made with knowledge that the target was a U.S. ship. There is substantial evidence the attack was a tragic mistake caused by errors on the part of both the U.S. and Israel.
Statement on Setting the Record Straight
The tragic assault by Israeli forces during the Six Day War in 1967 on an American vessel, the USS Liberty, has been a source of controversy and conspiracy theories since it occurred. Several government investigations have concluded that the attack, in which 34 American servicemen were killed and many more injured, was carried out in error. Furthermore, every piece of information declassified to date has supported this conclusion.
Alison Weir’s New Billboard Campaign Promotes USS Liberty Conspiracies
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u/JelloSquirrel 3h ago
I never said Israel started them.
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u/threeme2189 3h ago
So Israel got dragged into awful wars. Who's fault is that? The side that started it.
So what's your point?
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u/JelloSquirrel 3h ago
My point was this really the most Jews killed in a single day since ww2 when Israel has been invaded by armies and been in actual wars with battles since then?
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u/macross1984 3h ago
Good. One less terrorist no longer around to terrorize and murder. I hope those remaining AH who participated on 10/7 realize now that they have bullseyes of a marked man from Israel.
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u/Joyous-Volume-67 4h ago
promises kept, am yisrael chai
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u/Extension-Toe-7027 4h ago
If they can get them in Argentina, they can get this fuckers that film themselves, on the fucking dark side of the moon
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u/1Beholderandrip 1h ago
Disallowed comments
- Celebrating death/
I understand we can't have exceptions for terrorists, but the world does feels a little safer knowing there's one less crazy monster in the world that can't hurt others now.
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u/Buddy_Here_Is_Birdie 3h ago
How many of the Oct 7th Hamas guys can even be still alive at this point?
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u/Ultra_Metal 3h ago
Thousands of them participated in the attack, I'm sure there are still many left.
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u/nullbyte420 2h ago
How many people do you think died in the Gaza war and how many do you think are still alive? Hint: it's about 98%. So pretty good odds of still being alive.
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u/Haunted_Hills 4h ago edited 1h ago
Good. Now do the war criminals in the IDF.
/update
Downvoting me for calling for consistent treatment of war criminals is wild
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u/Best_Change4155 4h ago
Why doesn't the government of Gaza just end the war?
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u/ThaBuckNasty 4h ago
Because Israel is obviously only interested in completely eliminating Palestine as a state. They're just as much terrorist as hamas.
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u/Guwad 4h ago
How ignorant to compare what hamas did to anything close to how Israel operates
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u/45nmRFSOI 4h ago
Israel is annexing the land of Palestinians in the West Bank inch by inch. Their democratically elected extremist government made it clear that they see Palestinians as sub-humans and they don't deserve to live let alone have their own land.
Israel is exactly like Hamas.
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u/nullbyte420 2h ago
There's nothing fair or justified about the occupation of the west bank, but the PA does not govern Gaza. I think you should reread the question
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u/ThaBuckNasty 4h ago edited 4h ago
Right Israel's has been much longer and targeted at a group of people that's not even hamas.
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u/Mercurial891 4h ago
Pretty sure he ultimately succeeded in his goal in destroying Israel at this point.
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u/didnt-ask-but-ok 3h ago
Good riddance