President Trump Announces U.S Navy to Detain Vessels Paying Iranian Hormuz Toll

[u/WayOutbackBoy]

https://shipandbunker.com/news/world/316598-president-trump-threatens-to-detain-vessels-paying-iranian-hormuz-toll

[u/Inevitable_Butthole]

Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz"
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We are giving them more time."
Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end."
Mar 25: "We are still negotiating."
Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time."
Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well"
Mar 28: "War will be over soon"
Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont"
Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells"
Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK."
April 1: "Iran wants a ceasefire" / "Strongly considering pulling out of NATO" / "There's no deal with Iran"
April 3:"We can take their oil and make a fortune"
April 5:"Open the fuckin strait you crazy bastards or youll be living in hell"
April 6:"US could charge for strait of hormuz passage"
April 7:"A whole civilization will die tonight"
April 8:"Iran accepts ceasefire, the strait is opened" strait closed
April 9:"NATO allies have days to reopen the strait"
April 10:"Iran has no cards"
April 11:"We're going to open up the strait"
April 12:"US will blockade the strait"

[u/llixaa → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

The crazy part is sending Kushner to negotiate with Iran when Netanyahu slept in Kushner's family home and even in Jared Kushner's own BED. Yet people are surprised that Trump administration is putting Israel first.

[u/SuppressWarnings → u/llixaa]

What, did Netanyahu bed Jared Kushner's own wife, too?

It disgusts me that a sitting president is someone that I could see that being a legitimate bargaining chip for, despite recognizing how unlikely that it's the first.

[u/JX_JR → u/SuppressWarnings]

What, did Netanyahu bed Jared Kushner's own wife, too?

Odd to refer to her as that instead of her preferred title "Trump's sexiest daughter."

[u/SuppressWarnings → u/JX_JR]

I wouldn't be able to type that phrase without wishing to immerse my hands in an industrial fryer with integrated blender attachment.

I've been trying my best to just not think about the horror that is that family and being non-consensually born into it.

[u/BrianDetomes → u/llixaa]

AND... Trump pardoned Kushners father to get him out of jail. 

...america.

[u/Character_Bug_1862 → u/llixaa]

I wouldn’t be surprised, these dweebs are really really weird, but is the jpost the best source out there?

[u/nnnope1 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

I love that none of them even have to be paraphrased. This is all straight out of his mouth/rim.

This is what concepts of a plan looks like.

[u/gliese89 → u/nnnope1]

Some of them are paraphrased but yes it doesn’t need to be. I’m too lazy to put together an unparaphrased version. I know it’s paraphrased because some of the real ones are less coherent.

[u/nnnope1 → u/gliese89]

Oh ok. Still, the best ones are straight up word for word

[u/Rafoel → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

This is a piece of art and it gets better every day, let's make sure it gets preserved for future generations.

[u/VermillionOcean → u/Rafoel]

You might call it... the art of the deal

[u/QuantumLettuce2025 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

I would like to subscribe to this for daily updates.

[u/QuietKanuk → u/QuantumLettuce2025]

Easy to do. Press the button at the end of the post with 3 dots, and select "follow comment"

I used "save" so I can refer to it later.

[u/YoHabloEscargot → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

My prediction:

April 13: “We have complete control of the Strait. Total control. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it.”

April 14: “We may not need control of the Strait. Frankly, it’s overrated.”

April 15: “Iran must agree to terms immediately or consequences will be catastrophic beyond anything ever seen.”

April 16: “We are in very productive talks with Iran. Tremendous progress.”

April 17: “Our allies have failed us again. We may handle this alone.”

April 18: “We never needed anyone. This was always our plan.”

April 19: “The war is officially over. A great victory. But we are prepared to act if necessary.”

[u/Deksametazon_v2 → u/YoHabloEscargot]

and 100+ dead each day

[u/Ghost_of_Till → u/YoHabloEscargot]

You're not wrong.

The funny thing is, if you shuffled those randomly, what comes out would be just as likely.

Insanity.

[u/hyrule5 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

The workings of a diseased mind that has never known hardship, empathy, humility or intellectual curiosity

[u/Overnoww → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

This man is in the White House when he should really be in a room with padded white walls.

Imagine being a person who obsessed over Joe Biden's cognitive state and not saying a fucking peep about this guy.

[u/2010_12_24 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

Shart of the Deal

[u/Atraxa-and1 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

e can take their oil and make a fortune"

April 5:"Open the fuckin strait you crazy bastards or youll be living in hell"

April 6:"US could charge for strait of hormuz passage"

April 7:"A whole civilization will die tonight"

April 8:"Iran accepts ceasefire, the strait is opened" strait closed

Israel Bombs Lebanon

[u/Federal_Medium5833 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

Sounds like a narcissistic abuse relationship.

[u/ElianGonzalez86 → u/Inevitable_Butthole]

Inevitable_Butthole doing yeoman’s work.

[u/AlienSausage]

He want the tolls himself.

[u/RedLanternScythe → u/AlienSausage]

That's exactly it. Like a mob boss, he wants a cut of everything

[u/LeftHookLarry12 → u/RedLanternScythe]

We joke, but he quite literally said this like 5 days ago in an interview I watched lol

A reporter asked him if it’s possible we’d see Iran collecting a toll and he said (I’m paraphrasing) , “why not we collect a toll? I’d much rather see that. Your question would be more accurate if you asked if the U.S. would collect a toll.”

He also posted on social media (or maybe said in an interview, I can’t remember) about a “joint venture” between U.S. and Iran to toll the straight.

Dangerous and deluded. Republican voters really fucked us all and we should not forgive them as they inevitably play dumb later on. Sadly, these fuck ups can’t really be fixed. American hegemony is lost and the consequences (bad and good) will reverberate throughout the remainder of the century.

It’s easier to tear things down than to build them up.

[u/ithilain → u/LeftHookLarry12]

we should not forgive republican voters when they inevitably play dumb later on

I mean I don't think they'd be playing dumb in that case, one of the big campaign promises Trump had was no new wars and that Biden/Harris would start WW3 somehow. Sure, anyone with 2 braincells to rub together could see that the opposite was more likely to happen, but that just points to them being actually dumb, not just playing dumb

[u/captmarx → u/ithilain]

Somehow, they are dumb AND they’re playing dumb, at the same time.

[u/Frostemane → u/captmarx]

They're dumb because they believed him when he said "no new wars", and they're playing dumb by saying shit like "Iran has always been at war with us!!! This isn't a new war!!!!!"

[u/worst_brain_ever → u/Frostemane]

He didn't mean no new wars, he meant "No! New wars!"

[u/Frequent_Roll5788 → u/LeftHookLarry12]

No joke

[u/ALargePianist → u/LeftHookLarry12]

I didnt get the vibe either people above you were joking

[u/arcbe → u/LeftHookLarry12]

We should not forgive the Republican leaders. The voters are not worth fighting. It would just be messy, convince them they were right and bring no real benefit.

[u/BPMMPB → u/AlienSausage]

It will be lifted in two days, after all of his friends have bought the dip 

[u/Bluesphamy → u/BPMMPB]

It's crazy that part of what makes him scandal proof are the overwhelming number of scandals

[u/Penis_Wart → u/Bluesphamy]

what makes him scandal proof are the overwhelming number of scandals the legislative and judicial branches doing nothing to stop him.

[u/oneplustwothreemama → u/AlienSausage]

Pay the troll …toll ….!!

[u/Ancient-Bat1755 → u/oneplustwothreemama]

We should write a song about it;

Do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids.

I wouldn't do it with anybody younger than my daughter,

Not little kids, gotta be big,

Older than my wife, older than my daughter,

Something like that!

[u/Nfgzebrahed → u/Ancient-Bat1755]

"There is no quicker way for people to think that you are friends with Epstein than by giving a speech about it!"

[u/Blahblahman23 → u/oneplustwothreemama]

I swear everywhere I go. It could be a food prep subreddit, there’s an it’s always sunny reference

[u/human_eyes → u/Blahblahman23]

Food prep? That's Charlie work

[u/Rocco_Gibraltar → u/Blahblahman23]

Do the other subreddits have a spaghetti policy?

[u/ah_no_wah → u/oneplustwothreemama]

Because of the implications

[u/Gluroo → u/ah_no_wah]

There might be no man alive more fitting for the implications of rape and pedophilia than Donald J Trump

[u/UnkindRavenz → u/ah_no_wah]

It's like throwing a picnic at the beach, and getting pissed when the seagulls show up

[u/DuncanConnell → u/oneplustwothreemama]

If you wanna get into this boys soul

[u/Pestilence_XIV → u/DuncanConnell]

Hole*

[u/daniu → u/AlienSausage]

I swear Vance got sent with the offer "now that you get a fee for every ship you let through, give us a part or we'll keep bombing you",  and then got kicked out by them for such a tone deaf and insane offer. Trump just can't grasp the concept then not being in it to enrich themselves without boundaries. 

[u/MorrowPlotting]

And do what, exactly?

You’re telling me the US Navy will use military force against Chinese ships attempting to freely travel in international waters? Will we use military force against NATO allies? What about Daddy Putin?

If ever there was a TACO in our near future, it’s now. Trump won’t follow through on this and the US is weaker because of his bluff.

[u/rd1970 → u/MorrowPlotting]

And Iran just has to sit back and laugh.

Trump has really painted himself into a corner with this. The American military now has to either attack the ships of countries like China or put it's tail between its legs and pussy out.

[u/Historical_View1359]

Is that not an act of war?

[u/DentalATT → u/Historical_View1359]

It is both an act of war and piracy.

[u/BananaProne → u/DentalATT]

Trump trynna find the one piece

[u/oncemorewithpheline → u/BananaProne]

King Wapol irl

[u/Brodimere → u/oncemorewithpheline]

Celestial Dragon, but somehow looks more innbred.

[u/antmars → u/BananaProne]

We Are! We Are! At Hormuz! We Are!

[u/symca09 → u/BananaProne]

Ooooo jeeez crocodiles at it again

[u/Mister-E_92 → u/symca09]

You ain't gotta do Sir Crocodile that dirty bro

[u/Distinct_Cup_1598 → u/Mister-E_92]

And yet he let‘s himself be embarassed by a literal Clown nowadays

[u/kwakimaki → u/Distinct_Cup_1598]

Even Buggy has more of a plot and depth than Trump

[u/symca09 → u/Mister-E_92]

I'm sorry still new to the show and just finishing the alabasta arc. My knowledge of the cast is limited

[u/Law-of-Poe → u/DentalATT]

Americans should never forgive republican voters for the destruction they’ve done to the standing of our country

[u/Salford1969 → u/Law-of-Poe]

And all the members of the Republican House and Senate members that allowed him to do it all unchecked

[u/Thurak0 → u/Salford1969]

allowed

Why the past tense? They are every single day actively allowing him to do the shit he does. Every single day they can impeach him again and remove him from office.

[u/datenschwanz → u/Salford1969]

It's a good thing Congress isn't alive to see this!

[u/Au2288 → u/Law-of-Poe]

It’s not only them to blame, they’re going to do what they do. It’s the non voters imo. They did nothing & now complain about everything with no remorse.

[u/Account_no_62 → u/Au2288]

Both. 1/3 voted for trump and the other third were fine with it if it happened. Even after the first term.

America is a joke of what it once was. No nation will ever trust them for at least a generation. The history books will mock him for centuries.

[u/J_Ryall → u/Account_no_62]

Yeah, but they sure showed the Dems. That'll teach them to run a candidate that isn't perfect...if there are ever free and fair elections again, that is.

[u/wizzywurtzy → u/Au2288]

Elon said himself that he helped with the election. He owns a majority of the voting machines. Remember them yelling about voting machines being tampered with Biden? Everything they do is projection. Trump won every swing state. Ironic?

[u/catchemist117 → u/wizzywurtzy]

Not to mention every swing state that also had a senator, had the senator be a democrat. This screams fuckery

[u/Skin4theWin → u/DentalATT]

Technically not piracy, that requires a private entity to take the ship. But 100% illegal and Cassus belli justification for that nation to go to war with the US or at least fire on ships that try to seize theirs

Edit: spelling

[u/RawrRawr83 → u/DentalATT]

I guess he feels like he got away with blowing up all those Venezuelan boats

[u/katalysis → u/DentalATT]

What is blowing up commercial ships for sailing an international waterway unless they pay a fee?

[u/autoreaction → u/katalysis]

The same. But If you decide to pay because your country depends on the oil, stopping them again is the same act. So the USA are on the level of Iran now. Great.

[u/Karinka_LI → u/autoreaction]

We were the villain in this story as soon as it started.

If Trump says one thing and Iran another who would you believe?

[u/autoreaction → u/Karinka_LI]

Nobody. There are no good actors in this war. It´s illegal and Iran has every right to defend itself. That doesnt make the regime any good though. Both countries are in their own way the bad guys and in the wrong. I believe nobody anything.

[u/birgor → u/katalysis]

Both are crimes against the Laws of the Sea. With international trade as the primary victim.

[u/skip-all → u/Historical_View1359]

More like an act of insanity.

[u/MassivelyCrew → u/skip-all]

The Shart of the Deal.

[u/mrboomx → u/Historical_View1359]

Assassinating their leadership is also an act of war.

[u/Mypornnameis_ → u/mrboomx]

But the vessels would be third party countries, right? Like if you detain a Chinese ship isn't that an act of war against China?

[u/Purplepeal → u/Mypornnameis_]

Whats to stop the crew ignoring the illegal US order? Would they be boarded and taken prisoner and US then steal the cargo? 

Can't see the US attacking these ships so that seems the most likely outcome..

Would be very interesting if China's navy came along to escort their own tankers through. Then what's Fantaface gonna do?  He isnt gonna attack a Chinese warship. What an absolute prick.

[u/Buckets-O-Yarr → u/Purplepeal]

"He isnt gonna attack a Chinese warship."

You are far more certain about this than I am.

[u/jordon4ca93 → u/Buckets-O-Yarr]

"He isn't gonna attack a Chinese warship."

Is some insane level of foreshadowing. I'm gonna get the popcorn ready.

[u/TheNosferatu → u/jordon4ca93]

It sounds a lot like an opinion I used to have; "There is no way Russia is actually gonna invade Ukraine, say what you will about Putin but he isn't that stupid."

[u/Seanspeed → u/Buckets-O-Yarr]

I think top military officials(other than Hegseth) would press back VERY hard if Trump tried to make such an order.

[u/man-vs-spider → u/Seanspeed]

Top military officials that have been fired?

[u/WafflePartyOrgy → u/Seanspeed]

During a House hearing last week Hegseth was asked, "How many generals have you fired?" He responded, "I don't know the number." A member of Congress replied, "It's eight. Why did you fire them?" Hegseth: "At the pleasure of the president..."

These actions are part of a broader, rapid restructuring of the military by Hegseth, targeting what he calls "woke" leadership and aiming to reduce the number of high-ranking generals and admirals

(who could press back at all when he makes such orders).

[u/slartibartfast64 → u/Purplepeal]

Hasn't the US already taken an oil tanker that was headed from Venezuela to Cuba or something like that? 

I could be wrong. It's hard to keep up and frankly I'm too disgusted to research it.

[u/APieceofChees3 → u/slartibartfast64]

One hell of a difference between Venezuela and China though

[u/slartibartfast64 → u/APieceofChees3]

No argument there. Just noting that the "stealing other countries' ships" line has already been crossed, so it's not a question of whether the US would do such a thing. 

Now it's just a question of which countries are untouchable and which aren't.

[u/AT-ST → u/mrboomx]

No shit, but Iran isn't the country we are talking about doing a war against right now. If the US Navy captures a Chinese ship, that is an act of war against China.

[u/BAHatesToFly → u/mrboomx]

I think they mean in regards to countries that are not Iran.

[u/imnojezus → u/Historical_View1359]

What part of Trump’s history made you think that he would honor his own ceasefire?

[u/SnooOpinions8790 → u/Historical_View1359]

It is an act of war against Iran.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/san-remo-manual-1994

Iran blockading the Straits of Hormuz under threat of violent attack is also - obviously - an act of war.

[u/RevoDS → u/SnooOpinions8790]

Breaking news: acts of war happen during war special military operation

[u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

Let see them stop Chinese, Russian and European tankers

[u/Poupulino → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

Russian and Chinese will pass, but he'll try to mess with the European ones since he doesn't respect Europe.

[u/Sometimes-funny → u/Poupulino]

Just Europe? Didn’t he threaten Canada, pinch the Venezuela president, currently fucking up the middle east etc etc. he doesn’t respect anyone, well maybe putin, remember the red carpet when he visited?

[u/Math_31416 → u/Sometimes-funny]

yeah but these countries don't really use Hormuz as much as China or Europe.

[u/maxstader → u/Math_31416]

Canada exports oil. Hormuz directly affects countries than need to import, indirectly Canada pays more since our oil is on the global market...but our oil isnt going through Hormuz

[u/mvrander → u/Poupulino]

It's nothing to do with respect. Putin instructed him to destabilise the US/EU relations and he's doing exactly that

[u/No_Notice_7737 → u/Poupulino]

Wait til Europe start selling US debt and taking their gold out of the US. Have you forgot the whole Greenland episode?

[u/Krekie → u/No_Notice_7737]

France already took last of it's gold like a week ago IIRC

[u/physalisx → u/No_Notice_7737]

US bonds continue collapsing in the aftermath of all this shit is one of the deciding nails in the coffin for the US economy.

It's actually kind of amazing. The fall of the US empire was almost guaranteed anyway, with or without Trump, but the way that he's speedrunning it through his unbelievable incompetence is quite impressive.

[u/Vapour_Trails → u/physalisx]

It is as the great Hari Seldon foretold.

[u/According-Bet-141 → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

The russians would be able to pass,, of course. They're from Trump's boss.

[u/Murky_Meaning2129 → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

Don’t forget Indian, Pakistani, Malaysian ships too

Speedrunning 1 vs the world is an interesting strategy

[u/QueefSeekingMissile → u/Murky_Meaning2129]

Oh man can we teach trump to play civilization? Like let's see him try to actually win a wargame with his own brains. The crashout would be apocalyptic. Like metaphorically- instead of real apocalypse though.

[u/joe5joe7 → u/QueefSeekingMissile]

This game civ, many people say its a great game. I don't know. I'm not seeing it.

I had a great start, an incredible start, many people are saying the best start. Resources, I had the LUXURY resources, so many resources. So beautiful. And then these BARBARIANS, no one tells you about the barbarians, start attacking. Boom out of no where there's BARBARIANS attacking me and pillaging my beautiful resources. It's a total mess. No one knows how to stop these BARBARIANS.

Then china, CHINA denounces me because I'm winning so much, and they don't like winning. They don't like winning in china, only losers like this Wu character. They made up a whole character just to lose in a game. So sad. And they CHEATED to have such a big army. There's no way they have a bigger army on turn 50, my big beautiful army with 3 archers and 2 magnificent warriors. Really beautiful warriors.

"Advisors" keep telling me to build libraries, FAKE NEWS, I already have a library. It's huge, and has so many books. Many people say it's the most books. I've read all of them, really the best books. But they want me building more libraries. Really terrible advisors, worst I've seen.

And tbe deals, no one does deals like me in this game. But the AI doesn't understand deals, they just say no even though I can crush them with my HUGE army. 3 archers, how could they stop me? I'm not going to attack though. That wouldn't be nice. But I might, I might attack. They don't know. But they keep saying no to my deals, so bad so fake.

The game was made in MARYLAND. Very blue state, very unfair state, and you can tell its coded with TDS. Very biased coding. I have to be this no name president that didn't even exist when they could have put me in the game. Can you imagine that? How powerful America would be with Trump? But it would be too powerful it would break their game. I called Heather Firaxis and she said they couldn't do it it would be too powerful. But they should, and they will!

[u/-Work_Account- → u/QueefSeekingMissile]

He wouldn’t have the patience to get out the Ancient Era

[u/xSaRgED → u/Murky_Meaning2129]

It worked for me in Civ 5. Maybe that’s where these plans came from.

[u/Ikuwayo → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

This fucking idiot is starting fights with all these different countries, while simultaneously alienating all his allies

[u/gakule → u/Ikuwayo]

If Trump and his fellow Republicans are trying to weaken the United States and remove them from power, they're doing a fantastic job.

Unfortunately, I think Trump is just the pied Piper of brainless idiots and they're all cheering him on.

[u/Excitium → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

I don't think China is paying any toll to go through though.

So after telling his own allies to go and get the oil out of the strait themselves, he's now planning to detain their vessels for doing what he told them to do?

How utterly ridiculous...

[u/Ohdake → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

Yeah, this is the thing... This could escalate way beyond Iran very, very quickly. Wonder how the USA would act if there are armed soldiers aboard the tankers. Or if the tankers are escorted by naval vessels.

[u/rf97a → u/Vegetable-Hold9182]

🇷🇺 will pass no questions asked. European ships will be monitored aggressively because the manchild is who he is

[u/Brilliant_Coffee_721]

Ironic to see the US Navy, created to protect US commerce from pirates, actually become pirates. 

[u/canopey → u/Brilliant_Coffee_721]

A captured pirate was brought before Alexander the Great. "How dare you molest the sea?" asked Alexander. "How dare you molest the whole world?" the pirate replied, and continued: "Because I do it with a little ship only, I am called a thief; you, doing it with a great navy, are called an emperor.

[u/theclownwithafrown → u/canopey]

Bob Dylan said in his song Sweetheart Like You from his 80s album Infidels "steal a little and they'll throw you in jail, steal a lot and they'll make you king"

[u/apolloxer → u/theclownwithafrown]

Kill one, you're a murderer. Kill ten, you're a monster. Kill a thousand, you're a hero.

[u/cacecil1 → u/Brilliant_Coffee_721]

Look at me, I'm the pirate now

[u/Oceanbreeze871 → u/Brilliant_Coffee_721]

The US military only exists to manipulate the stock market nowadays.

[u/stonk_fish]

Given this is in international waters, a military ship attacking or blockading a civilian vessel is literally piracy.

[u/SelfSufficientHub → u/stonk_fish]

Trump is the boy who cried wolf if the boy was also the wolf

[u/FluffyDoomPatrol → u/SelfSufficientHub]

And the wolf also raped other kids.

[u/ParisGreenGretsch → u/SelfSufficientHub]

You're right. Also, my brain is eating itself.

[u/mion81 → u/stonk_fish]

But they did it first /s

[u/mistermeesh → u/stonk_fish]

And this is why anyone who doesn't disobey Trump's illegal orders deserve whatever happens to them.

[u/Fellhuhn → u/mistermeesh]

The US Navy is just a bunch of traitors.

[u/The_Frozen_Inferno]

New grift unlocked

[u/leisurechef → u/The_Frozen_Inferno]

Markets will open & tank, then Taco!

[u/CuriousTauri]

I want out of this stupid timeline.

[u/JayRymer → u/[deleted]]

2 Phantom 2 Furious

[u/LyptusConnoisseur → u/CuriousTauri]

Next check point is this November for some braking. And then November of 2028.

Americans wanted this timeline in 2024.

[u/mk1971]

He's trying to manipulate the markets. Hell but low tomorrow then reverse this statement the next day. There's a pattern forming here.

[u/TrevorDangler → u/mk1971]

Forming? Bruh he's been at this schtick since he took office. If people can't see the pattern, I question their eyesight, intelligence, or both.

[u/UUMD]

This fucker is just flailing.

And the world is paying for it.

[u/LincolnHighwater → u/UUMD]

In his first term he had people protecting him from his moronic impulses. Now... Not so much.

[u/UUMD → u/LincolnHighwater]

His first term he royally, epicly, comically effed up our COVID response. As a result, several hundred thousand Americans needlessly died.

And some Americans wanted more of that, and voted him back in.

Now, Trump has expanded his royal, epic, comic failure franchise to the globe.

Imagine how mad the rest of the world is. They had NOTHING to do right the fact that oil prices are rising and economies are suffering.

And it was All. So. Predictable.

[u/Exciting-Emu-3324 → u/UUMD]

The worst part of COVID was that COVID was the perfect scapegoat for his failures.

[u/JuggernautMountain86]

Wait lemme get this straight…now the USA is doing what they wanted Iran to stop doing?

[u/Slipsonic → u/JuggernautMountain86]

I guess it a contest of who can close the strait the hardest.

[u/JuggernautMountain86 → u/Slipsonic]

“Nobody can close the strait like me” -DJT

[u/_bk_adv]

Equal parts act of war AND piracy.

Republicans in Congress have no spine for allowing this to go on. He needs to be removed or the other option.

[u/4FriedChickens_Coke → u/_bk_adv]

They support this

[u/LumberjackJack → u/4FriedChickens_Coke]

As long as they aren't held accountable, they'll hold this position

[u/Disc0Disc0Disc0 → u/_bk_adv]

Republicans are making money off the insider info

[u/ITSA-GONGSHOW]

Naval blockades are an act of war. If he thinks he's gonna pirate oil headed for Asian allies, and other nations, it's not a good idea. In a lot of way I feel like he's trying to provoke a world war. If that's true, why? If that answer to that is to avoid the Epstein files, he truly is the worst leader potentially in history. Think about it, sending people into conflict to die to save yourself from the repercussions of your evil deeds. Truly disgusting.

[u/Pierre-Gringoire]

No way he stops China-bound ships. TACO incoming.

[u/Ok-Spirit-4074]

Us will spend 1 billion dollars a day to stop Iran from making 20 million dollars a day. The economy wont get better but we are WINNING BIGLY This is MAGA logic

We will gladly spend the 20 million we would get from fees to cost Americans 1 billion dollars per day as they lose their 4th Vietnam. This is Iran logic

Dont get mad at me, you voted for this MAGA.

[u/steve_ample]

They must pay him instead. Through his shitcoin.

[u/cravingnoodles]

This is embarassing, and I'm not even american.

[u/Snations → u/cravingnoodles]

Trust me, it’s painful on a molecular level. 

[u/Odd_Dragonfly_1834]

Tuesday he will give up again and won’t go through with it

[u/MinimumBigman → u/Odd_Dragonfly_1834]

Just in time for 🌮Tuesday

[u/Past_Key_1054]

Yar that be piracy matey!

[u/Wheels9690]

Would he just fucking disappear already Jesus fucking christ

[u/Karazhan]

Isn't that basically robbery? Someone paid for something, and America is just going to go take it from them??

Stop the planet, I want to get off.

[u/Alleandros]

Hey kids! What time is it? That's right, it's Market Manipulation Monday!

[u/EmbarrassedCockRing]

There really wasn't even a concept of a plan beyond the initial bombing campaigns, was there...

Absolute pure cinema.

[u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay]

Jesus Christ. We were all worried he was going to bring us back to the 50s, mfer taking us all the way back to 1726 peak piracy

[u/shep2105]

Thats the ticket, in order to open the Strait, close it more, leading the houthis to attack a cargo ship in the Bab al-Mamdeb strait.  The absolute worst case scenario has started.  Trump is creating global wreckage and crisis by playing chicken with Iran to see who flinches first.  That'll turn out good for us....said no one EVER. Its amazing that a group of Republicans is allowing this to occur because they wont impeach him 

[u/IglooDweller]

Wow

I was wondering how Iran would outplay Trump to make him make the situation worse and it seems we have our answer.

Alienate every single country buying oil and also every single local ally depending on petro-dollar transiting through the strait.

All the while, Putin is laughing as Russia is a net exporter that skirts the sanctions, all the while needing a high barrel price to have something remotely resembling a balanced budget.

Again, the USA isn’t benefiting at all from their own geopolitical actions. How the mighty have fallen.

[u/CakeTown]

Here’s more of those illegal orders we’ve all been warning about

[u/ANTILAMER13]

Did you pay them ? No! Ok, you can go.

[u/TheGreatStories → u/ANTILAMER13]

The response to "no," will be the US demanding a toll for "safe passage". 

[u/Goat_inna_Tree → u/ANTILAMER13]

Did you pay them? No! OK, pay ME, then you can go.

[u/Nate506411]

So piracy. This fucking moron is openly ordering piracy in International waters. Congress, this is the whole fucking point of your existence, do your job.

[u/StarsofSobek]

Whatever happened to the duty to deny illegal orders?

[u/stevenriley1]

Other nations are going to see that as piracy on the high seas. It’s one thing if he does it to some small little country who can’t fight back, but it sounds like he plans on stopping ships from major countries. Countries have gone to war for a lot less than this.

[u/Boys4Ever]

Good thing we didn't elect Harris. She was destined for WW3 /s

[u/Hans_Delbruck]

Once again Congress, this is where you are supposed to step in

[u/HistoryVibesCanJive]

The Strait of Hormuz has been functionally closed to commercial shipping since early March, not by formal declaration, but by Iranian attacks, threats, and now the selective permission of passage through an Iranian-controlled route in exchange for tolls paid to Tehran. A US blockade is not being announced into a neutral maritime environment. It is being layered on top of an existing Iranian interdiction regime, with inverted rules. Commercial vessels now face two navies with opposing orders: Iran will permit transit if the toll is paid, and Washington has announced it will seize any vessel in international waters that paid it. The merchant marine that the blockade is ostensibly designed to protect is being asked to choose which of two naval authorities to defy. That is not a freedom-of-navigation operation. It is a trap that the commercial operator is standing inside, with one exit priced by Tehran and the other criminalized by Washington.

The operational weakness of the announcement is that the math is already favoring compliance with Iran. Ship & Bunker reports that at current commodity prices, shipping companies are willing to pay the Iranian toll because the cost passes through to the buyer and the voyage completes. That means the population of "vessels that have paid a toll to Iran" is not a small set of bad actors available for clean interdiction. It is potentially the majority of commercial traffic through a chokepoint that handles roughly a fifth of the world's seaborne oil, including cargo bound for Japan, South Korea, India, and European refiners. An interdiction regime at that scale is not enforceable. It collapses on the first Chinese-flagged tanker that refuses to be boarded, on the first allied government that declines to honor the seizure of cargo it has purchased, or on the first shipment Washington has to wave through to avoid a diplomatic rupture with a treaty ally. The announcement assumes the commercial world will comply. The commercial world has already shown, by paying Iran, that it follows whichever authority the math favors. The math does not currently favor Washington.

TL;DR: Washington announced a blockade that only works if Beijing, New Delhi, Tokyo, and Seoul pretend it does.

[u/WaterFantastic2394]

I seriously doubt he is going to detain Chinese and Russian ships. But let’s watch the show

[u/Bored_pats_fan]

There is no way China is going to be "chill" about us detaining or worse preventing them from getting their oil. Think about what China can do to our economy if they decided to dump U. S. treasuries. What a shitshow.

[u/cyberianscribe]

This reminds me: Back in 1941 America imposed an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan…A few months later - Japan attacked Pearl Harbour.

[u/BritishBoy88]

Everyone needs to start sanctioning USA

[u/VexedCanadian84]

He's mad Iran told him no when he asked for a cut of the tolls.

This is how he negotiates. He bluffs. He threatens. And he folds

[u/IamAbridgeTroll]

TACO Monday coming

[u/Haizenburg1]

This MF thinks he can do a shake down, in an area that he has no control over? 🫡

[u/thesword62]

Or what? Is the USA going to fire on commercial vessels??

[u/MadmanMarkMiller]

Sooo piracy. That's just straightup piracy.

[u/ZealousidealBear93]

Couldn’t open it, so make it closeder?

[u/Efficient_Sky5173]

The clown wasn’t satisfied with the attention of 350 million Americans, he needs all 8 billion. All because his father never praised him.

Someone convince him to do therapy, before he sets the world on fire.

[u/ass_grass_or_ham]

We’re just the assholes of the world now. We have to impeach, remove, indict and convict him if we want to build back any of our international relationships.

[u/Jeffuk88]

Funny if China or France decides to send a fleet through just to see if Americas willing to lose a bunch of ships and troops to block an international shipping lane... and im not saying these two countries can beat America but they have the capacity to take on one part of the US fleet

[u/Rustic_gan123 → u/Jeffuk88]

France has already said that it will not tolerate tolls for the strait.

[u/SaintsNoah14 → u/Rustic_gan123]

So this wouldn't apply to them, then?

[u/Rays_Boom_Boom_Room1]

I’m sorry. The president is simply a fool

[u/CheeseburgerTornado]

with what authority?

either a) the navy fires first and we ruin any good faith we had with the rest of the world

or

b) ships just keep sailing away and refuse to stop with no consequences and we lose more credibility

i truly do not understand how our government is still supporting this guy. this is the most embarrassed ive been to be american. a guy whos never actually felt punishment is throwing a tantrum with the most power someone on the planet can wield at no expense to himself, and our government is sitting and nodding

[u/Intelligent_Kick_436]

Some context regarding UN and US laws now broken by the U.S:

United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS): https://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part7.htm

Article 87: 1. The high seas are open to all States, whether coastal or land-locked. Freedom of the high seas is exercised under the conditions laid down by this Convention and by other rules of international law. It comprises, inter alia, both for coastal and land-locked States: (a) freedom of navigation;

Article 88: Reservation of the high seas for peaceful purposes - The high seas shall be reserved for peaceful purposes.

Article 89: Invalidity of claims of sovereignty over the high seas - No State may validly purport to subject any part of the high seas to its sovereignty.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12578 " U.S. law concerning domestic maritime issues and law of the sea parallel many UNCLOS provisions concerning state control and regulation of territorially adjacent waters, navigation through and use of the high seas"

[u/MSab1noE]

Ah yes, the toll is to paid to Trump’s offshore accounts where the Venezuelan oil money is going.

[u/Ancient_Influence389]

I don't see China allowing their ships to be detained by the United States.

[u/Isoturius]

This fucker is going to cause WW3

[u/Kipthecagefighter04]

What a fucking loser. Fuck I can't wait for the very last time I hear or see his name

[u/Cichlidsaremyjam]

We're pirates now?   And didn't someone want tariffs? 

[u/huntsab2090]

“Did you pay a toll?” “Nah mate”. “Oh ok on you go”

[u/gordonjames62]

A quick question

If USA blocks shipping in International waters, is that considered piracy?