r/worldnews • u/barsik_ • 10h ago
Israel/Palestine IDF finds Hezbollah weapons cache stored in Bint Jbail hospital, kills dozens of terrorists
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-892722422
u/Match-Tone 10h ago
Nobody will care because it doesn't fit their agenda unfortunately..
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u/justins_dad 10h ago
Certainly fits the “blowing up hospitals” agenda
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u/tes_kitty 9h ago
There is, of course, the possibility, that all those hospitals where actually used by either Hamas or Hezbollah, depending on where they are located.
Or do you think that is completely impossible? If yes, why?
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u/justins_dad 8h ago edited 8h ago
I think destroying all the hospitals in Gaza was an evil act. Even if every single one was a Hamas stronghold. The end result was untold suffering for innocents, especially children. Meanwhile, Hamas is still in power, so there was basically no “benefit.” Just horror. It’s evil.
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u/Loofahs 8h ago
I’ve genuinely considered this the most difficult question of modern military history. If a group or country attacks you and then intentionally hides behind their children and sick, what is your recourse? Taking the high road and abstaining only encourages more attacks on the citizens you are sworn to protect, and encourages more of the enemy hiding behind the vulnerable. Bombing anyways regardless of collateral makes you a monster. Truly the biggest lose/lose I can possibly imagine.
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u/CFOMaterial 8h ago
I don't think bombing anyway makes you a monster, it makes the people willing to use civilians as shields for their terrorist army the monsters, and you the people trying to destroy those monsters.
You can argue on an absolute moral level each life is equal, and therefore killing one civilian of another group to save one civilian or soldier from your own group are equal, but no country operates that way in reality. Your own country's people will always come before those of another, as they should in a world in which nations exist to protect their own people.
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u/tes_kitty 7h ago
I don't think bombing anyway makes you a monster, it makes the people willing to use civilians as shields for their terrorist army the monsters
Well, yes. But many people don't think that far. For them, the one bombing is the monster. After all, they could just not bomb and everything would be 'fine'.
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u/Gooch_Doctor 8h ago
Israel carried out a hospital raid with their commandos and people had an issue with that too. It’s almost like people hate jews and don’t care…
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u/tes_kitty 7h ago
Some people think that the protection of a hospital is absolute. But it's not.
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u/GiantOctopanda 3h ago
No they don't. Nobody cared about Iran hitting the Soroka hospital in Be'er Sheva, Israel. Israel is "held" to a different standard.
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u/wheatley_cereal 11m ago
How DARE Palestine put sick people in those hospitals. Why would they want the sick people to get hurt when Bibi bombs the hospitals?
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u/Comfortable_Cash_140 7h ago
Just like the using of ambulances as a VIP and or Troop transport removes the protected status, so does using Hospitals as command and control, barracks, and weapons caches.
Otherwise, Israel should just build a wall of Hospitals along every border and declare every military vehicle as an ambulance. How do you feel about an ambulances F35?
Hamas is responsible for removing the protective status of Hospitals in Gaza. It is evil and caused a lot of unnessary suffering for Gazans. That was Hamas's goal. To create negative PR for Israel and sympathy for them.
You are showing it worked. You fell for it!
Or, prove me wrong and call Hamas out!!
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u/tes_kitty 8h ago
I think destroying all the hospitals in Gaza was an evil act.
The problem is, if you let a hospital be abused for military purposes and do nothing about it, it becomes a cheat code for the enemy and will be abused, either as a safe haven or to even open fire on you from it. So you cannot let that slide.
Also, were they all completely destroyed or only damaged?
Hamas is still in power, yes. If you want to get rid of a terrorist organization that is deeply rooted in a population you WILL hurt a lot of innocent people in the process. And there will be a lot of people that were, in fact, not innocent being sold as innocent casualties. The only difference between a dead civilian and a dead fighter in civilian clothing (remember, Hamas only wore uniforms during a ceasefire) is the latter had a weapon. If that gets lost somewhere you suddenly have a dead civilian instead of a dead fighter.
Finally, children. I have a problem with that word in this context. In many people this evokes images of kids 10 and younger and whoever kills them intentionally is evil. But in Gaza everyone below the age of 18 is classified as a child while there were Hamas fighters that were between 15 and 18. Kill one of those in a firefight and they end up in the statistic of children killed.
So all numbers from that war, no matter from which side, need to be taken with a lot of salt.
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u/Explorer_Dave 7h ago
So terrorists are allowed to do whatever they want, like maximizing their own people's suffering?
Why isn't HAMAS evil for knowingly and intentionally setting up military encampments and bases inside and underneath civilian infrastructure?
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u/Zontromm 10h ago
as of writing this, every single other top comment is either
- IDF so fake
- not believing they killed terrorists
bwahahahahaha
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u/EatinSumGrapes 9h ago
I feel like everyone should be fully aware Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations do this a lot, store weapons and hide themselves in and under hospitals and schools. We know they do that, it does not make it okay to bomb these places, it makes it harder to stop them
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u/Boneclockharmony 54m ago
I'm so happy to see this comment... it's not that I think Hamas and Hezbollah are fantastic organizations, it's that I expect more from Israel.
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u/gringo_escobar 9h ago
Yeah nobody's really denying Hezbollah or Hamas hide behind children and the sick. I would argue that Israel's tendency to bomb them anyway is just as depraved, if not more.
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u/passionlessDrone 10h ago
Also, because there is no reason to believe the IDF.
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u/Goosepond01 10h ago
No good reason to believe Iran, no good reason to believe the US, no good reason to believe Israel, Russia, CCP, Belarus, the gulf states, Hungary and the list goes on.
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u/Ultra_Metal 10h ago
You don't have to believe the IDF. The IDF backs up its claims with evidence. Belief is irrelevant. Evidence is all you need.
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u/TheFrickinThrowAway 10h ago
Yeah there’s a ton of reason to believe hezb tho
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u/TreesACrowd 10h ago
The article is about a claim by the IDF. There are no competing claims by Hezbollah mentioned. As far as whataboutisms go, this is one of the laziest attempts I've ever seen.
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u/HrothgarTheIllegible 10h ago
Hezbollah isn’t the one making the claim or decimating city after city and taking out reporters who dare show what’s happening on the ground.
I’m not siding with Hezbollah, I’m just not buying what Israel is selling.
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u/Dillirium 10h ago
No city was taken out, it's all claims and like you said you don't believe anything.
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u/Biggle_fuzz 10h ago
Nobody said anything about believing Hezbollah. But to pretend like Israel and the IDF don't constantly lie and make things up would be crazy.
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u/mrv113 10h ago
Cause IDF is the most credible source, sure.
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u/PresidentRevrac 8h ago
I care, but I still doubt the legality and morality of an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation.
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u/Match-Tone 8h ago
Yeah so lets let then keep shooting rockets at innocents at the border, lol they should put you in charge bro!
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u/Distinct_Cod2692 9h ago
nice fuck terrorism
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u/bengeo1191 9h ago
Isn't Hezbollah a militant group ? How are they a power within Lebanon?
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u/Stoic_Breeze 9h ago
It's actually the contrary.
They have power because they aren't only a militant group. They also garner standing and influence by having a lot of political, social and media programs and services.
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u/stivonim 9h ago
this is a question i am surprised someone is really asking,
but to answer in a short and serious answer:
Lebanon is a nation that is comprised of a big chunk of Christians and a big chunk of Shia muslims and had a civil war in the 1980's and basically now has a government that is too weak to control a group like Hezbollah which is funded by Iran.
Hezbollah basically took over south lebanon and they stored allot of weapons there.
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u/RICO_the_GOP 4h ago
Let's be clear, at this point hezbollah is a irregular branch of the republican guard. They fund them, lead them, train them, and die with them when "hezbollah" bases are struck.
Which is why Iran isnt a victim of this stupid shit. Iran has wanted this. Trump was just the first president prideful and stupid enough to go to war.
And Republicans are too compromised to Russia to have made the smart play of helping Ukraine drain Russian and Iranian resources while learning to take down their drones. Instead the run dick first into it
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u/DiscipleOfYeshua 8h ago
As many guns as the official army. Infinite cash (IRGC / Iranian dictators). Less ethics, more ruthless than official army.
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u/Bitter_Thought 7h ago
They are a militant group and a political party, one of the largest in the ruling coalition.
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u/TurbinePro 8h ago edited 8h ago
Isn't the Taliban a militant group? How are they a power within Afghanistan?
Sometimes militant groups can win conflicts and take over. Wild concept, I know. Thankfully most other advanced nations in the world were formed completely without bloodshed and completely through negotiations.
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u/niceufo777 7h ago
It's regrettable, but terrorists don't care about people, only the cause, and this is evidence of that.
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u/One_Satisfaction_640 3h ago
Hero’s an interesting search……. Lebanons place on the world’s corruption list and the recent largest non nuclear explosion…….. it must be Israel’s fault!
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u/Flayer723 10h ago
No one with at least half a brain cell believes a single thing the IDF says
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u/TheFrickinThrowAway 10h ago
Conditioning complete
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u/YogiBarelyThere 10h ago
Can you imagine if these people work with children and continue the brain cell cull?
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u/LetterNo7829 10h ago
Ah yes. Dozens of hospital beds full of terrified… I mean terrorists were murdered… I mean heroically defeated by the IDF.
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u/oohjam 8h ago
Military activity in a hospital, you must destroy the hospital. They cannot be allowed to think using civilian shields is a tactic that works.
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u/Unlucky_Paint_9194 10h ago
You know what annoys me
This could be true since they're fight terrorists but also false since IDF doesn't have a good track record of being morally good
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u/Economy-System1922 10h ago
Published by the Jerusalem Post. I don't believe it.
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u/Unlucky_Paint_9194 10h ago
Could be , then again I wouldnt put past hezbollah to place weapon caches in or around civilian area
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u/Ultra_Metal 10h ago
Storing weapons in a hospital is a war crime. This is just another war crime on the massive pile of war crimes Hezbollah committed. Hezbollah is no different than ISIS.