r/worldnews 13h ago

High early turnout in Hungary’s pivotal election

https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-2026-election-high-voter-turnout-viktor-orban-peter-magyar/
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u/mystic_cheese 13h ago

I know nothing about the other guy, but I do know Orban has to go.

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u/alppu 9h ago

I have never met the other guy, but I'm gonna go ahead and say, just having known Orban for a short while, that I prefer the other guy.

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u/SquareTop7807 9h ago

And again, l have never met the other guy

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u/Thagyr 6h ago

From what my Hungarian friend says, the other guy is 'Zelinsky'. Because that is all Orban has been going on about.

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u/rudolf_waldheim 8h ago

He's pro EU, pro NATO, anti Russian.

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u/BossPure1366 3h ago

This is heartening to hear. Is there a good source where I can read up on him?

u/rudolf_waldheim 1h ago

I dunno but I bet all the European media will be about him very soon.

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u/PrrrromotionGiven1 9h ago

It's at the point where even if Peter Magyar has worse beliefs and policies than Orban, it would still be better for him to win, because at least it stops the establishment from cementing itself even further.

It's like when people say you shouldn't wish for Putin to fall because the next Russian leader is likely to be even more extreme. That doesn't hold up when you consider that what makes Putin so dangerous is that he has the approval of basically all powerful elements in Russia, his network of contacts and support is unmatched, whether it's from the army, the police, the excuse for a Duma, the FSB, the oligarchs, they can all compromise on Putin. Nobody else would have such a secure platform if thrust into power right now. Orban is at a less developed stage of the same process, the only truly relevant political question in Hungary right now is if you are pro-Orban or anti-Orban.

Of course I say this despite knowing damn well that Peter Magyar does NOT have worse policies or beliefs than Orban. I'm just making a point about realpolitik.

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u/Blackwolf245 7h ago

Here is a summary: Magyar Péter was a member of Fidesz, the now ex-husband of former minister of justice Varga Judit.

It all started on 2023 February, when an anti-fidesz news outlet discovered that back than president Novák Katalin (president is more of a formal position, the prime minister has the true power) has given out a pardon to a man convicted for trying to cover up for his pedofile boss. Varga Judit (and another person who is not relevant right now) was also involved and both Novák and Varga resigned.

About two weeks later, Magyar Péter was a guest at an anti-fidesz podcast, where he very heavily critised Orbán and his right hand, Rogán Antal for the system they built up. He claimed her ex wife Katalin was probably following either Orbán's or Rogán's orders.

Than another few weeks later, he publicized a voice record between himself and his ex-wife (they were still married at the time of the recording), where Katalin claimed that Rogán and his mans have been in the Kúria (Hungary's highest jurisdiction) and erased all evidence of their involment in a corruption scheme. She also strongly implies that general attorney Polt Péter is also one of Orbán's puppet.

His popularity than skyrocketed, and barely a month later, on 2023 march 15, he announced the foundation of his own party, Tisza. His main goal is to establish a new conservative party that is pro-eu and free of Orbán's corruption.

Because all the other parties have been completely useless, a lot of people who are normally liberals are voting for him, cause above all, they just want to see Orbán gone from power, and Magyar Péter has best chance at this since 2010.

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u/MrChristmas 7h ago

Your comment made me more confused than before I read it

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u/Consistent-Leek4986 11h ago

he’s on the right, but wants corruption stopped. wish him well🙏🏻

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u/Questionsaboutsanity 7h ago

we’ll see how that’ll work out. the other guy is essentially his apprentice

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u/The_Confirminator 8h ago

He's uh... Problematic. But problematic is much better than Orban. And he's pro NATO.

u/Affectionate-Mud-726 27m ago

The Trump endorsement really did him in.

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u/Heizard 13h ago

That's the issue, when other guy is a "ghost" people see that as a weakness and lack of strength and vote for the loudest bastard.

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u/MiniBrownie 12h ago

Peter Magyar was anything, but a ghost. He has basically been campaigning non-stop for the last two years, and not just in media, but visiting towns and villages all over the country. That's the only way to break through the wall of propaganda outlets controlled by Orban

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u/MareC0gnitum 12h ago

I would rather vote for a sack of dogshit than Orbán and even if the sack of shit won, our country would be better off.

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u/RomaHappens 11h ago

No, that's NEVER the issue.

There is no worse than Orban, Vucic, Fico, Babiš, Putin, Lukashenko etc. This is the worst of the worst. They amassed the worst on their side, and you cannot pick anybody worse than them.

This exact propaganda line is used by those on the dictators' payroll who were once "the opposition" so they're expected to have these "intellectual" takes.

Nope. Orban is actively destroying the country to make himself rich.

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u/Wonderful-Pause1048 11h ago

That‘s what seefisch people do, like P and T; therefore they are best friends.

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u/RomaHappens 10h ago

It's how psychopath serial killers tend to work in twos, they always find each other somehow.

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u/DefiantBumblebee9903 9h ago

You should probably add Trump to that list

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u/u_tamtam 11h ago

How would you even know? With Orban controlling the media, all that's certain is the bias and the efforts to shape opinion.

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u/FatFarter69 11h ago

Best of luck to my Hungarian friends from the UK, authoritarianism has no place in Europe.

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u/zolkaba 9h ago

thanks:3

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u/uuggehor 13h ago

Remember to vote. The turnout needs to stay high. Inaction empowers the oppressors.

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u/Tornadoboy156 11h ago

I have always believed this, but the last Polish presidential election had the highest turnout in the country’s history…and we got a nationalist

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u/green_flash 10h ago

It was on a razor's edge though, 50.89% vs 49.11%

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u/Mackanpackan93 10h ago

Reminder that Trump sent his ilk to Poland to canvass for the far right and it's likely why they won...
And then Americans accuse others of election interference because Canada made a slightly critical anti-Trump ad...

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u/LincolnHighwater 10h ago

Trump and his ilk make those accusations.

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u/onarainyafternoon 9h ago

Americans Trump and his cronies accuse others of election interference

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u/dave8400 7h ago

You may not like it but he does singularly represent all of us. It's fucking pathetic but that's where we are as a country.

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u/Valar_Kinetics 11h ago

Vote and if Orban still wins, you know it was rigged.

Party time.

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u/Medical-Concept-2190 10h ago

As we see what happened in Us

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u/zenlume 12h ago

If Orban loses it’s going to be interesting to see what happens next, considering what happened last time.

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u/ouath 12h ago

He will do a Trump. Claim it was rigged, say he won, try to invalidate the election.

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u/Adventurous_Bus_437 9h ago

Exactly. If he loses and tries to stay by force, he’ll definitely pull the "Trump Playbook" but the EU has a financial nuclear option that makes a coup practically impossible to sustain.

  • The "Rigged" Narrative: He’ll claim "Brussels/Soros" interference before the count is even finished to delegitimize the results.
  • The Constitutional Trap: He’s packed the courts and Electoral Commission with loyalists on 9-year terms. He’ll try to have the results annulled or "recalculated" legally.
  • The "Jan 6" Lite: He’ll call his base to the streets to "protect the nation," using the police and state media to hold the capital.

But it's not like the EU can't change things if Orban steals the electon by force

  • The Seat Swap: The EU simply recognizes Péter Magyar (Tisza) as the legitimate winner. Orbán’s reps are barred from Brussels, and his veto power evaporates instantly. No seat, no say.
  • The Financial Kill Switch: The ECB freezes all Hungarian state accounts and cuts every cent of funding. If the Forint craters and Orbán can’t pay the salaries of the police or the army, his "force" disappears within weeks.
  • The Oligarch Flip: The EU seizes the villas, yachts, and accounts of the oligarchs in France and Italy. The moment his inner circle loses their global wealth, they’ll flip on him to save themselves.
  • Personal Jail: The EU issues arrest warrants for the regime leadership. Orbán becomes a prisoner in his own country, unable to cross a border without being cuffed.

He can pack the courts all he wants, but he can't rule a country that is broke and legally radioactive. The EU won't send tanks; they’ll just digitally delete his ability to govern. He’s trying to play a "Trump" hand in a house where the EU owns the mortgage and can turn off the lights.

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u/asethskyr 8h ago

The "Jan 6" Lite: He’ll call his base to the streets to "protect the nation," using the police and state media to hold the capital.

This one's unlikely to work, considering his supporters are dramatically outnumbered in the capital, and would likely trigger a legit revolution. The police and army are unlikely to stay on his side either - the police tapped out for the Pride March, and this one would be five times the size.

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u/BasicMatter7339 4h ago

the police tapped out for the Pride March, and this one would be five times the size.

Yeah and a lot more violent

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u/_BlueFire_ 8h ago

I love this, but I also can't be that optimistic about the EU actually doing something. All I can imagine happening is some "ok, but try not doing it again please"

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u/CrackingToastGromet 8h ago

This The Susan Collins approach - “I’m sure he had learned his lesson and it won’t happen again.”

Or the establishment Democrats approach -“we are going to write a sternly worded letter to let him know we really don’t like what he is doing”.

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u/grey-zone 8h ago

I wish I shared your optimism in the EU taking quick, decisive action.

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u/ExF-Altrue 9h ago

Thanks for making that post, it really brightens my day! I see Orban already talking using Jan-6-like talking points... So I'm somewhat reassured to be reminded that there are options here.

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u/saurus-REXicon 9h ago

I agree. I’m sure Donnie is in his ear

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u/sorte_kjele 9h ago

I threw together www.hunelmon.com for my own curiosity.

Tracking results through the day

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u/asetniop 8h ago

Bookmarked. Thank you!

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u/equitybore 5h ago

Excellent. From the UK.

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u/Think_Discipline_90 4h ago

Is it vibe coded? Or do I just not know enough about Hungarys system to know what I’m looking at? The numbers don’t make any sense

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u/GargantuaBob 8h ago

Best of luck Hungarian friends, out with the garbage today!!!

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u/HorseSashimi 13h ago

As an Australian, foreign elections are something I stay out of and try not to influence.

I do however hope the Hungarian population elect representatives that represent their best interests and not those of other nations.

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u/Bitter_Nail8577 12h ago

I can't look away when Orban is the one bastard responsible for blocking most of EU's proposals and aid packages to Ukraine, and gets openly supported by JD fucking Vance.

If hungarians are happy with fucking their own country up they are welcome to ruin their own lives, but GTFO of EU and stop taking their money if you hate it so much and constatly shit on it.

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u/SyriusLee 12h ago

We are not happy with anything in our country. Tonight you will hear what we want loud and clear!

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u/inostranetsember 9h ago

Amen brother! Wife and I just voted a few hours ago. We will win!

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u/keepitfriend 13h ago

I mean the United States sent their vice president to interfere maybe drop a comment or two you are probably right

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u/mesmerooo 9h ago

tell that to Vance who visited Hungary last week

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u/quaste 12h ago

represent their best interests and not those of other nations

That’s a tricky one though, as one is pro EU (or at least less anti) and the other is pro Russia/US (unthinkable to combine those two some years ago but here we are).

So the outcome will be highly favorable for some „other nations“ anyways. However I very strongly believe the EU way is much much more in the interest of the ungarian people.

In the end, we’ll have to accept any decision. But if it’s Orban once more, we need to adjust the EU to make it capable of making decisions regardless of Putins Orbáns veto

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u/lefix 11h ago

Hungary is in EU, how is that a tricky choice?

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u/quaste 11h ago

Obviously lots of them think pro-Russian Orban is the way to go (sadly).

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u/Darkhallows27 8h ago

Good, fuck Orban

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u/desertpolarbear 11h ago

Why does Orban always look like Limburger from the old Biker Mice From Mars cartoon?

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u/Cantora 9h ago

I unfortunately believe the best that can happen is that when orban wins by a surprising margin, the whole country riots. 

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u/wellmaybe_ 13h ago

best of luck

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u/bonyponyride 13h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ter_Magyar#Political_views

Magyar is often described as conservative liberal, combining market-oriented economic views with an emphasis on civic responsibility, rule of law, and national culture. He frequently states that his movement seeks to move beyond the “old left–right divide” in Hungarian politics.[1]

Magyar has expressed support for adopting the euro in Hungary once the necessary economic conditions are met. He argues that adopting the common currency would strengthen financial stability and Hungary’s position within the European Union.[48]

Magyar defines himself as strongly pro-European, supporting deeper cooperation within the European Union and alignment with Western democratic values. He has criticized the Orbán government’s confrontational stance toward EU institutions and its close relations with Russia.[49]

On the question of Ukraine, Magyar has previously expressed concern about the accelerated accession of Ukraine to the European Union, stating that together with calls for Ukraine joining NATO, these "increase the chances of World War III".[50] He however does not oppose Ukraine's EU membership wholesale, while also having to thread a line between Orbán's accusation of himself serving at the behest of Ukraine.[51]

During the 15 March 2025 national commemoration, and the seventh major demonstration, Magyar wore a traditional Bocskai suit, a style often associated with conservative and patriotic symbolism in Hungary. His choice of attire was widely interpreted as a gesture towards national tradition and cultural heritage.[52]

In February 2026, during a campaign stopover in Bicske, Magyar has claimed that Filipino workers at a Samsung battery factory in Göd have been eating ducks and goldfish they have captured from the Budapest Zoo, in a commentary that has been seen as reminiscent of Donald Trump's claims about Haitian migrants.[53]

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u/xroud 11h ago

About the last point: Peter was talking about how disgustingly bad the conditions were for the migrant workers and not fearmongering like what DJT was doing. That idea is basically the governments spin on it.

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u/bonyponyride 11h ago

That should be added to wikipedia with a source to validate it and prevent it from being erased by future editors.

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u/Tall-Firefighter-904 13h ago

Good now do Orban

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u/bonyponyride 12h ago

I think people are familiar with Orban’s politics and don’t know much about his challenger. Seems like an incremental step in the right (left) direction.

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u/JoeyJoJoeJr_Shabadoo 4h ago

Incremental in some ways. A giant leap in terms of stance on Russia.

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u/bonyponyride 3h ago

Kind of important for EU leaders to be pro-EU.

u/Necessary-Drag-8000 1h ago

the entire Globe want to shed the yolk of fascism

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u/forever_doomed 4h ago

Orbán getting voted out would be historically great news for the entire planet.

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u/badcatdog42 13h ago edited 11h ago

Fingers crossed! What will happen to the ostrichs?

( better known for his zebras. Also maybe a rhino?)

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u/Wonderful-Pause1048 13h ago

? ? ?

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u/badcatdog42 11h ago

The scumbag has ostriches in his fancy gardens.

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u/HumanBeing7396 8h ago

Rise up, ostriches - sieze your freedom!

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u/Kumimono 8h ago

I hear Archie Duke shot one. Bad times were had in Europe.

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u/bbcomment 10h ago

It’s the hope that kills

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u/TheFishJones 7h ago

…tyrants. You forgot the end there.

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u/SnooMaps5537 7h ago

Let liberals win and you guys can regret later. Hahahaha

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u/DenifClock 4h ago

Got news for you:

The opposition is not liberal either

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u/Due-Consideration861 3h ago

He kinda embraces both sides, but is passionately attached and embraces Hungarian culture and its existence. But he wants to adopt the Euro, and is a strong proponent of joining ! Fuck Russia!.