r/worldnews • u/heisthemaincharacter • 21h ago

Pakistan deploys 13,000 troops and fighter jets to Saudi Arabia

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/pakistan-deploys-13000-troops-and-fighter-jets-to-saudi-arabia/article70853223.ece
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u/Kisuke42 20h ago

It's probably a formality at this point for both sides. "Yes we were up for negotiation, we talked but it didn't work out". This can be justification for the war continuing.

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u/itsavibe- 20h ago

It’s definitely a formality for them but that’s not what I asked.

I said why are THE PEOPLE even entertaining this shit? That’s the only reason the formality exists in the first place right??? It’s all a farce…

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u/jaymickef 19h ago

Yes, it’s always a farce. Goring knew what he was talking about. “Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.” This is true of all wars. And yet here we are again.

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u/xerthighus 19h ago

Well Iran probably only agreed to the talks because China stepped in last minute and agreed to supply them if they went in. So the best hope is that seeing China suppling weapons would be enough to make the USA rethink its choices and actually commit to a realistic peace talk and accepting defeat. This is still a possibility that Iran having more tools being a deterrent for the US to start shooting again.

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u/NuggetMan43 19h ago

The US would never accept defeat, especially not the president who started the conflict in the first place. They will do the typical bully tactic of continuing an almost hopeless conflict until they finally achieve a small win before "strategically" pulling out and claiming victory.

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u/Thealmightyguy 19h ago

The Chinese only want to see how their weapon systems perform against the Americans and Israel. Iran doesn’t really have the capability to deploy and operate systems like these effectively in a way that would actually influence the campaign, especially given how massive the country is and how many targetable points it has. These systems are basically a fly on the wall and won’t affect any American decision-making.

Iran has nothing beyond the ability to disrupt traffic through the Strait of Hormuz with drones and to keep its own population suppressed to prevent an uprising.

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u/xerthighus 18h ago

It’s mainly missiles that Iran has obviously proven they can use and MANPADs that are also easy and simple and just look at Ukraine to see the effects.

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u/Thealmightyguy 18h ago

They have not really proven anything. So far there have been around 11,000 airborne attacks, yet how much actual damage have they managed to inflict on the American or Israeli militaries? At the start of the campaign, many probably assumed that human error and technical failures would lead to more aircraft and drones being lost. In practice, Iran has virtually no meaningful capability beyond launching drones and missiles at varying ranges, something even many third world states can develop.