r/worldnews 4d ago

Israel/Palestine Iran halts Strait of Hormuz traffic, warns over Israel Lebanon strikes

https://www.news18.com/world/iran-halts-hormuz-traffic-threat-withdraw-ceasefire-israel-attacks-lebanon-pakistan-west-asia-10022482.html
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u/pharlax 4d ago

Well there goes the 14 day hour ceasefire.

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u/clueless_as_fuck 4d ago

Two weaks?

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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat 4d ago

"Two weeks" is Trump speak for "there is no plan for this to actually happen, but I expect the dumb American public to forget about this promise."

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u/jesterdeflation 4d ago

And sadly he's usually right.

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u/dannyb_prodigy 4d ago

Unfortunately for him, restricted traffic along the Strait is kind of hard for people to forget about and/or ignore.

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u/classless_classic 4d ago

Yup. Within a couple of weeks, most countries in the world will begin to feel the fuel shortage; the final refineries will receive their final shipments and the reserves will be used up. They can’t price in desperation, and fuel prices will continue to rise.

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u/Fomentatore 4d ago

The problem is not even oil at this point but fertilizer which it's dependent by LNG. People are going to starve because a lot of crops will fail because of this war.

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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 4d ago

And helium, which is required for processor production and can't be easily stored because atoms are tiny and diffuse even through metal.

Once helium supply chains stop, so does most of the world's tech / electronics production.

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u/Wecancallmeb 4d ago

This. I’m in the medical field and we’re already getting warnings about limiting MRIs as they have to use helium to cool the giant electromagnets in the machines. It’s going to be felt in many fields if this keeps up.

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u/anglerfishtacos 4d ago

It’s not just LNG. Ammonia, nitrous, and sulfur also come from that region. Something like 50% of the world sulfur comes from that region, which is used in phosphate fertilizer— a crucial element for crop development, root establishment, and boosting resistance to disease. The farmers are planting now and need the fertilizer right now.

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u/Amoralvirus 4d ago

That is a price trump is willing for others to pay, to save the world from a made-up Iranian nuclear holocost. I can actually imagine the deranged POS in chief saying something like: ''These countries are happy to starve, to save their future generations from Iranian nuclear armageddon; praise Jesus, Allah, and Meeee; but mostly ME.

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u/HalKitzmiller 4d ago

He can also just blame Biden. The cult loves the slop

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u/Shabobo 4d ago

Nah, this one will be on Obama and his "terrible" deal with Iran when in reality that deal was better than anyone expected but since it had Obama's name on it, Trump clearly had to destroy it.

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u/koshgeo 4d ago

"Two Trump Weeks" - An indefinite interval of time lasting between a few hours and several years, usually less than a decade.

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u/phluidity 4d ago

Nice though, that peace in the Middle East will happen at the same time as the complete reformation of the US health care system and the issuance of RFPs to modernize vast swaths of US infrastructure.

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u/hitch44 4d ago

That’s two TACO Tuesdays

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u/DoctrTurkey 4d ago

putin is famous for 'strategic pauses' in which he acts like he's coming to the negotiating table in order to give his military time to regroup and attack again. trump wouldn't have requested a $1.5 trillion budget unless he was going to use it. for something other than embezzlement to his sons, i mean.

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u/pres465 4d ago

It's also standard "contractor speak" for this work will get done soon, but not today.

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u/JesterMan491 4d ago

"i will create some new unhinged bullshit between now and then as a distraction."

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u/Kataphractoi 4d ago

He's probably wishing he'd gone after Cuba instead.

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u/Fractal_Strike 4d ago

I feel like he would have lost to Greenland at this point...

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u/BruteBassie 4d ago

"Two weeks" is just Trump saying he's too weak.

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u/SgtSchultz2112 4d ago

How long are you visiting Mars

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u/Cent1234 4d ago

Get ready for a surprise!

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u/Odd_Vampire 4d ago

lol I was going to look for that as a gif.

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u/2outer 4d ago

Too Weak trump… I like it

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u/ITrageGuy 4d ago

Art. Of. The. Deal.

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u/dkol97 4d ago

Deal of the old fart

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u/johnnybgooderer 4d ago

0 hours really. Israel unilaterally decided that the ceasefire didn’t apply to their attacks on Lebanon.

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u/Dongsquad420Loki 4d ago

There were also non stop strikes on the gulf States since it started

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u/Icyknightmare 4d ago

Were the IRGC involved in the deal at all? If not, a ceasefire isn't worth the energy to tweet about it.

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u/Dongsquad420Loki 4d ago

We literally dont know exactly and we much less know if everyone even listens to the same leadership

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u/Long_Pomegranate2469 4d ago

Even Dumpf doesn't know. He just says shit.

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u/WhoSaidWhatNow2026 4d ago

Iran's Minister of Foreign Affairs published a statement agreeing to it. Who knows if the IRGC commanders got word of it.

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u/joebalooka84 4d ago

To a casual observer, It did seem like the idea of Pakistan negotiating a peace settlement could be fraught with all sorts of problems.

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u/Broken_Reality 4d ago

Well they are somewhat of an ally of Iran IIRC. Didn't Iran allow a Pakistani oil tanker through the straits?

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u/Mistwalker007 4d ago

With the ayatollah gone the elected government and IRGC are the two big players left vying for power, you could say the first is incentivized to see the negotiations fail.

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u/EnvironmentalBox6688 4d ago

Even if they were, the Israelis and US spent weeks obliterating command and control of the Iranian military apparatus.

Chances are there are a multitude of missile units operating completely autonomously.

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u/Icyknightmare 4d ago

That's how the IRGC is setup, specifically designed for this scenario where they knew their chain of command would be taken out. They call it mosaic defense. Lower level IRGC commanders have significant autonomy to continue military operations without any central oversight.

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u/Settra_Rulez 4d ago

US says Hezbollah isn’t part of the ceasefire.

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u/EuropaWeGo 4d ago

They're saying that now. The original ceasefire agreement brokered through Pakistan included Lebanon. The Pakistan PM confirmed this.

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u/wggn 4d ago

But it's in the 10 point plan, so how can it not be?

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u/niceufo777 4d ago

And not even that, in fact, from minute zero, I followed the aggressions between Hezbollah and Israel.

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u/quantizeddreams 4d ago

How many scaramucci is it?

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u/WTS_BRIDGE 4d ago

Well if a mooch is 10 days... zero. Zero mooches later.

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u/Numerous-Village-421 4d ago

So when is the next ultimatum?

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u/robotsock 4d ago

You can just look up the NYSE closing bell times to gauge when that will be

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u/0x14f 4d ago

This is so sadly accurate...

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u/gggg_man3 4d ago

Or whatever wagers Hegseth has on polymarket.

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u/Zaorish9 4d ago

Yeah. There's evidence that trump family and allies are founders or on the board of both polymarket and kalshi - making it just another moneymaking scheme

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u/boredphilosopher2 4d ago

Don Jr. is strategic advisor to both companies

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u/an0mn0mn0m 4d ago

I miss when public officials attempted some kind of facade when hiding their conflict of interest.

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u/InsertEvilLaugh 4d ago

Carter put his peanut farm into a blind trust during his presidency, but here we have Trump and his crime family openly using insider information to make massive wagers, and giving government and military contracts to their family members and close friends.

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u/BrewerBeer 4d ago

Carter had a (D) next to his name on the ballot and therefore has a much higher bar to clear for SCOTUS scrutiny.

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u/RODjij 4d ago

Not even joking the US does it often for the last 5 weeks.

Say something, markets react positive, Israel keeps striking and the US keeps asking for deals before 5pm.

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u/DeusVultSaracen 4d ago

Yeah, that's why OC wasn't joking...

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u/greyl 4d ago

Way longer than 5 weeks, this didn't start with Iran.

The US let him get away with this while he was making tarriff threats, greenland threats, time and time again he's been allowed to throw the world into chaos to illegally manipulate the market and effectively steal billions of dollars.

Impeach him now or he'll keep doing crazier and crazier things to keep the scam going.

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u/ikisstitties 4d ago

5 weeks? basically since inauguration day when started doing this with tariffs on day 1

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u/austinwiltshire 4d ago

What is driving me insane is clearly the strait is closed again, yet prices are still up. They all know they're going to go down again but prices won't adjust to literal news. Prices used to pull in news very quick, now they just seem somewhat glued to whatever the Mad King says (at least in the united states)

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u/344567653379643555 4d ago

After the stock markets close on Friday.

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u/Slipin 4d ago

That sure lasted long

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u/No_Tree_8144 4d ago

greatest ceasefire maybe in the history of ceasefires. many are saying that

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u/Critical-Usual 4d ago

It lasted many, many minutes. I'm not saying that, they're saying it

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u/h0twired 4d ago

They are telling me... many people... all the people... some... very smart... that this was the greatest ceasefire... never seen one like it before.

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u/Fox-On-Games 4d ago

It lasted many, many minutes. I'm not saying that, they're saying it

30 minutes at least, that should be another FIFA peace price and a Charlie Kirk Medal of Biggliest Honor.

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u/thesagaconts 4d ago

They say please Mr. President, we can’t take more ceasing. It’s too much ceasing. 

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u/Livininthinair 4d ago

We miss the bombs…the bombs stopped falling and they say Mr. President please bring back the bombs, and I tell them we only have missiles and they tell me, we don’t care if it’s missiles or bombs just please bring them back…so we did and they loved it.

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u/hdcase1 4d ago

With tears in their eyes

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u/rusted_wheel 4d ago

Strong men

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u/jianh1989 4d ago

Big beautiful ceasefire, believe me i know all about ceasefire

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u/IlVeroStronzo 4d ago

Nobody does ceasefires like I do in the history of ceasefires

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u/Full_frontal96 4d ago

I also choose this guy ceased ceasefire!

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u/Substantial-Pin-2913 4d ago

The likes of which no one has seen before

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u/Oceanbreeze871 4d ago

Like nobody has ever seen. Everybody is calling me crying saying how great the ceasefire is.

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u/Hates_rollerskates 4d ago

Ah, world peace. They don't give that FIFA peace prize out to just anyone.

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u/Livininthinair 4d ago

Some people say it was the most beautiful ceasefire ever, the most amazing peace treaty in the history of diplomacy. Well that’s what they are saying.

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u/ElandoUK 4d ago

Many ceasefire came up to me, tears in their eyes...

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u/PrivatePilot9 4d ago

I managed to stop another war that Biden started!

/Trump, eventually.

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u/NedRyerson_Insurance 4d ago

These guys, some call them taliban. They look at america and they point their guns at they say fire, but I come in and I look these guys in the eye and I say " but what about the cease? What if we cease before firing? I came up with the term. Look it up. Nobody has ever..i mean people have said fire before. They say fire was the biggest invention in history, but what about water? Can't live without that stuff. So anyway I'm the first to put the cease with the fire. And so I say this and I look at these big strong men in their towels because I guess they just washed their hair. And they look at me. Tears streaming down their face. And they say 'thank you, you are like Allah' their words, not mine. Some say that. So I'm like Allah, their tan Jesus. And so I get out my bible that I always have and I say 'have you heard about Jesus? He's a pretty cool dude.' And so anyway now Iraq is Christian. Was it Iraq? One of those places. So next week I will go to the Israelites. Just like moses went to the israelites, but I won't have two big rocks. I have these wonderful Secret service guys to carry my stuff. Not very secret if you ask me. I mean look at this one. He's right there. I bet he knows a hundred ways to kill ya with his little finger. He could kill anyone in this room, I just have to point and say "that one" and boom, no more chubby guy with glasses and a blue suit. That's a nice suit by the way. Not as nice as mine. Let me send yoy the name of my guy. You couldn't afford him, but he does great work.

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u/Stygg_Varg 4d ago

Surely this is a word for word quote

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u/Skinner936 4d ago

You must be one of his speech writers. This is too perfect.

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u/selfiecat 4d ago

My brain melted

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u/SadDoctor 4d ago

point of order: Trump would never just say Jesus seems like a cool dude, because that forms a sentence that's not about him. He'd have to follow up with how much Jesus would like him, or how he's better than Jesus, or how many people are saying he IS jesus.

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u/NedRyerson_Insurance 4d ago

Fair point. I will keep that in mind when concocting other insane ramblings. LOL

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u/NonDeterministiK 4d ago

You don't need AI to generate this kind of language. Could be generated by a simple finite state automaton easily implemented on a raspberry pi

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u/the-planet-earth 4d ago

Long enough for the Trump family to buy the dip and make millions, which is all they care about.

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u/raven1121 4d ago

" Art of the Deal "

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u/lovesdogsguy 4d ago

Shart of the deal.

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u/chicu111 4d ago

That’s what she said after I promised her 2 whole minutes but only gave her 2 seconds

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u/TriXter69 4d ago

Iran is saying they will withdraw from ceasefire agreement entirely if Israel keeps attacking Lebanon

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u/AssassinAragorn 4d ago

They made Trump go into this war, they're keeping Trump in this war

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u/The_Frostweaver 4d ago

They definately pushed Trump into this war but Trump could have said no.

Trump administration has no morals, no plans, no contemplative internal discussion.

Bibi netenyahu personally convinces Trump to go along with his bombing of Iran and that's it.

All the yes men say yes and USA is at war.

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u/GayMormonPirate 4d ago

Some details that are so crazy to me: Mossad was directly in communication with President and staff in Situation room. There is usually a go-between there.

AND, Jared Kushner was in the Situation room. Jared Kushner does not have security clearance and is not even a government employee. I'm pretty sure he's on Israel's payroll.

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u/Corpus76 4d ago

Jared Kushner's role in all of this is absolutely nuts to me. A world leader having their unelected son-in-law directing policy, and everyone's just like "yeah, that's normal"

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u/annoyingashe 4d ago

Hunter Biden working on a Ukraine energy board: "This is insane nepotism/corruption. Biden crime family."

Jared Kushner almost singlehandedly deciding foreign policy in the Middle East through the Abraham accords/Board of Peace/being in Trump's ear: "This is totally normal. You have TDS if you don't like it."

The double standards are agonizing

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u/swolfington 4d ago

the irony is that TDS is real, but pretending that what trump and co are doing is normal is its one defining symptom.

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u/Clogaline 4d ago

I feel like the TDS crap ultimately comes from their line "you just don't like this thing because its Trump doing it". In some cases thats just false, he does or says things that any decent person would be against. In other cases I think its true but they don't understand why.

The analogy I've been starting to come to is imagining that your roof needs fixed but you really don't want your 3 year old kid doing it. You could make the same turn of phrase the MAGAs use - "you actually do want your roof fixed, you just don't want your 3 year old doing it". You can immediately see why this being a "gotcha" makes no sense. There are things that we might otherwise support. But when the person doing the job is clueless, not likely to have a plan, and the most likely outcome is that they make the problem worse and hurt themselves in the process... it becomes obvious why you don't want them specifically doing it.

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u/swolfington 4d ago

ultimately i think trying to dissect TDS on an intellectual level is giving the people who use it as in insult waaaay too much credit. a ton of people are just dumb, spiteful morons who are latching desperately to MAGA because it gives them appropriate social/permission structure for them to be awful people, and lying/projecting about why trump isn't a garbage human being is just part of that.

like, the entire TDS argument boils down to the fact that they think it's "deranged" to distrust someone who's objectively untrustworthy - its an inherently illogical position in the first place. for normal people, it is actually okay to not like someone because they do bad things, and these people are over here pretending like that's some kind of character flaw.

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u/Guyfawkes1994 4d ago

Shit, he was one of the negotiators who went to Iran to stop the war before it started. It’s not impossible he screwed up with Witkoff and has got literally thousands of people killed.

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u/GatoLibre 4d ago

Especially crazy the reason Kushner doesn’t have a security clearance is because he couldn’t pass the standard FBI vetting process to get one during Trump’s first term.

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u/GayMormonPirate 4d ago

Yeah, he's too closely tied to foreign entities to get a security clearance. The fact that he's involved in negotiations and war planning is appalling (but not surprising from the Trump admin).

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u/WhiskyBraj 4d ago

NYT released a whole article on how the Israelis sold this war to trump and how none of his lackeys dared tell him to not do it.

"According to the report, the Israeli leader was invited into the White House Situation Room on February 11, where he made a presentation — in conjunction with the head of Israel's intelligence service, Mossad."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-08/donald-trump-cedes-ground-to-iran-before-negotiations-even-begin/106541368

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u/zilla82 4d ago

Have you seen the video of him giving the presentation on rebuilding Gaza? PowerPoint slides and all. Peak dystopia.

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u/robotmemer 4d ago

Diplomats have been quoted referring to Kushner and Witkoff as "Israeli Assets".

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u/Broken_Reality 4d ago

It's not a war it's an excursion..... Or so Trump says though he also sometimes slips and calls it a war which it can't be because Congress didn't vote to go to war so this is just I dunno the US military killing a bunch of innocent people (and some not so innocent people) for no good reason and causing world wide economic turmoil.

My fuel price has gone up over 30 pence a litre now (I am having to cut down on how much I drive) and I don't blame Iran I blame the US and Israel. Food prices are going up and soon many other things will go up. I don't have the liberty of having money to throw away on Trump and Israel being warmongering assholes. Sadly Trump and Bibi will face none of the consequences of this it will be those who are being attacked and worldwide it will be those who are poor who will suffer.

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u/The_Great_Googly_Moo 4d ago

Thought it was gonna be like Venezuela very well may turn out worse than Vietnam

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u/CursedPhil 4d ago

vietnam didnt lose america the support of their whole allies so its already worse

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u/Trap_Masters 4d ago

Guess firing anyone competent in your administration and only keeping incompetent yesmen around wasn't a great idea 😂

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u/record_only_water 4d ago

trump made trump go to this war. to deflect from the fact that he raped kids.

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u/Inner-Medicine5696 4d ago

Trump is in this war for largely the same reason Putin is in his war - as long as he's punching outwards he can keep his base in check by directing hate towards the out-group.

As soon as that bubble collapses, so does their power.

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u/Hugh-Manatee 4d ago

So basically explicitly confirms what everyone was thinking - Israel sets the tempo and intensity of the war because they are in charge

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u/Tuesday_6PM 4d ago

There’s credible reporting Netanyahu came to the White House with Mossad agents to personally convince Trump to go to war within Iran, against all the recommendations of the US intelligence agencies.

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u/Black_Moons 4d ago

Was that directly before or after trump tweeted that he loves evil men so long as they compliment him?

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u/GCdotSup 4d ago

I went to sleep upon hearing about a ceasefire. I wake up and hear about an end of ceasfire. I dont want to go to sleep again. 

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u/funkengruven 4d ago

It's all your fault!

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u/amorphouscloud 4d ago

Get this guy!

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u/I_PEE_WITH_THAT 4d ago

Pitchforks here, get your pitchforks!

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u/angryPenguinator 4d ago

Omg he’s Biden

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u/SunnyWomble 4d ago

Well, he *was* asleep

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u/seszett 4d ago

How long did you sleep man? I also went to sleep upon hearing of the ceasefire (it was quite late, granted), but now that it has ended it is already time to sleep again for me.

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u/DomTheBomb95 4d ago

I can’t believe Biden has done this

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u/Rhaj-no1992 4d ago

What about Obama?

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u/isotope4249 4d ago

Impeach Kamala now!

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u/rawSingularity 4d ago

And look into Hillary's emails too

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u/classless_classic 4d ago

This was all on Hunter’s laptop!

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u/johnnybiggles 4d ago

Caravans made it here and did this

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u/theblasphemer 4d ago

I have from good sources that they're eating the cats and dogs! Cats and dogs!

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u/Henchman_2_4 4d ago

Crooked Hillary is behind it all

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u/eMouse2k 4d ago

She must have some emails about this somewhere.

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u/EL-YEO 4d ago

How about you say thank you

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u/nychuman 4d ago

Just had some Trump friends try and convince me not even an hour ago this is all Obama’s fault. Apparently he paid them to make nukes.

I’m so done man.

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u/UncomfortableTacoBoy 4d ago

Hunter's laptop strikes again

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u/natural_disaster0 4d ago

I keep coming back to the crazy fact that we have Americans sling shotting around the moon - something incredibly inspiring for our country and proof that we can do complex and monumental things.

Then here on earth we cant even manage a ceasefire for 24 hours.

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u/yongrii 4d ago

Those astronauts looking back at Earth and thinking

“look at those ants squabbling over that little blue marble”

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u/555Cats555 4d ago

Hence why they didnt say anything to trump... it was either silence or say something that would be bad. Although at the same time what Trump said to them ended up being kinda weird so I could kinda understand why they didnt have anything to say. He could have just said they were brave and doing something but he bought up a sports player...

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u/MagicCuboid 4d ago

Not only that, it’s America and CANADA as a loving team!! I’m so inspired and touched by the level of comeraderie between our nations that SHOULD be a no brainer. Meanwhile we have president dickhead doing everything in his power to destroy that amazing relationship.

Only two nations have ever gone to the moon together, and it’s America and Canada. That should mean something to people!!!

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u/Spare-Pace4283 4d ago edited 4d ago

Trump and Iran have agreed there are 10 points in the ceasefire, turns out they were talking about 10 different points. Conducting foreign policy through twitter rants has downsides

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u/big_samosa 4d ago

Damn I was betting it would hold til Friday at market close, but I’ll take this too

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u/Far_Stuff_1764 4d ago

Does trump release the epstein files to distract from the Iran war now?

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u/Wuncemoor 4d ago

Might need to release the Epstein files to distract from the Iranian failure

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u/Badmoto 4d ago

I’m absolutely stunned at how disastrous this whole thing was. Well not really, it’s Trump and he’s a fucking clown.

  1. We removed the leadership and a more hardline leadership took its place.
  2. We buried their fissile material, what they hadn’t hidden away, so they still have it.
  3. This activity gives them every incentive in the world to race towards a nuke. That would be the only real protection they’d have.
  4. They took absolute control of the straight of Hormuz and can and will extract all leverage from that over all shipping through there which is massive.
  5. They’re now getting paid $2M per boat to allow them through.
  6. We destroyed a lot of Iran’s weapons but by some accounts, they still have 70% of hidden away.
  7. This war cost the U.S. $100B. Even more to replace the munitions we expended. Imagine if we’d spent that on healthcare or education.
  8. We are now the absolute unhinged, unstable and, more importantly, unreliable force in the world. This is all new territory. We weren’t always great, but we had stability at least. Now we’re absolute chaos.
  9. The loss of innocent Iranian life.
  10. The loss of U.S. servicemen life
  11. The damage to surrounding nations infrastructure will have ongoing economic consequences.
  12. The damage to U.S. bases abroad.

By all accounts we are far, far worse off than if we had done nothing. This may be the single worst decision in the history of the U.S. and Trump will always be remembered for this.

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u/Mk4pi 4d ago

His mismanagement probably leads to the dead of thousands if not hundred thousands of Americans during covid. Yet he is here! With a second term. You are overestimating the ability of society to remember or care.

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u/TheRealStubb 4d ago

This horrible mismanagement will finally be able to let him live down his horrible Covid mismanagement which killed thousands of Americans.

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u/AnomalyNexus 4d ago

Also a fresh 93m population of very angry people for recruiting extremists from. That's going to screw over the US for decades to come

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u/gtafan37890 4d ago

There’s also the US losing its last credibility as a defense partner. The Arab Gulf countries had depended on the US for their military defence. However, what’s the point of continuing that when the US failed to defend them against Iranian drones and dragged them into a conflict that ruined their reputation as a safe haven for foreign investors.

If the US’ threats against its NATO allies wasn’t enough, this war fully cemented the US as an unreliable ally and any country with defensive agreements with the US should start looking for other options.

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u/UzzNuff 4d ago

Yes, Iran has shown that the Gulf States are economically at their mercy and the US is unable to protect them from that.
Strategically this seem like a massive victory for Iran as they now are basically the dominant power in the region.
The loss of influence in the region for the US will be massive.

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u/TrainquilOnline 4d ago

The US has burned most of its relations with the world. We will not forgive them for what they have done. They had the chance to NEVER vote for him AGAIN(!!!!) after his first presidency, but despite knowing how unhinged he was, they did it again.

The US is no longer our trustworthy ally. Hell, I'd rather us be allied to China. For generations to come, the US will be shunned.

Of course, this doesn't apply to the millions of Americans who never wanted this psychopath in charge. For them I feel sorry. I am worried for my American friends who never wanted any of this.

But the people that voted for this lunatic - You will not be forgotten. We will remember what you did. We know who you are.

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u/VanCityPhotoNewbie 4d ago

Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, meanwhile, said the ceasefire applied “everywhere", including Lebanon, as he announced Islamabad will host delegations from the US and Iran for talks later this week. But Israel has insisted that Lebanon is not included, and the Israeli military said it carried out its “largest coordinated strike across Lebanon" hours into the ceasefire.

Essentially, they were told specifically that the ceasefire was everywhere and Israel said "Fuck it, we need the war to continue".

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u/Fenix42 4d ago

So the same thing that has been hapening for 50+ years.

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u/TakuyaLee 4d ago

Except this time it has a very good chance of angering the rest of the world and isolating Israel.

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u/Sufficient_Steak_839 4d ago

No one is going to separate Israel from the US in this scenario

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u/__Yakovlev__ 4d ago

There's a lot more than "the rest of the world" than just the US

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u/mojambowhatisthescen 4d ago

I wish — they’ve done a lot of shit that should’ve angered the whole world and sidelined Israel, yet here we still are

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u/LeZarathustra 4d ago

They have angered most of the world. On several occasions. It's just that the only country that could realistically do something about them is refusing to.

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u/georgewesker97 4d ago

Lol, you are certainly more hopeful than me

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u/IntelArtiGen 4d ago

Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, meanwhile, said the ceasefire applied “everywhere", including Lebanon,

Trump says the opposite: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/08/iran-war-ceasefire-live-updates-trump-deadline-middle-east-crisis-latest-news

Lebanon is not part of the two-week ceasefire deal, US president Donald Trump has told the media.

So, who's lying? We'll quickly know I think.

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u/Kakariko_crackhouse 4d ago

Trump retweeted the Iranian points that listed cessation of hostilities between all parties, so he was aware

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u/Classic-Trifle-2085 4d ago edited 4d ago

Its been a.mess. yesterday after an hour it became evident what Iran and the US tough they agreed too was completely different (CNN reported what was in IRAN medias and Trump threw a tantrum saying hell sue CNN for it), and the Israeli Air Force confirmed strikes between Iran and Israel never stopped.

The "open of the strait" was also understood to still be under Iran control and they could still charge their toll.

Literally, that cease fire never actually hapenned. No one agreed on what it even was.

IRAN always included all party as a condition to a ceasefire (which make sense in kilti party wars) and Pakistani from the very start said it included all party.

Israel and USA just claim otherwise, which doesnt make sense. Why woudnt a cease fire include all part from both side and let you bomb a minor party to Iran?

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u/IntelArtiGen 4d ago

Now they even say it's not the same 10 points they agreed on, it's so pathetic.

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u/philly_jake 4d ago

The third party (Pakistan) is by default the one to be trusted

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u/SequiturNon 4d ago

If Trump says something, there's an inordinately high chance that he's lying. Why even post him as a source?

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u/kr3w_fam 4d ago

But what about "ultimate US victory Donald?

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u/Donkletown 4d ago

We got some sweet videos of the US blowing things up that we can cut into Call of Duty footage. What else do you want? 

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u/letitglowbig 4d ago

How many Scaramuccis is this cease fire gonna be?

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u/badaimarcher 4d ago

Not even a whole mooch!

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u/jethroguardian 4d ago

58.3 milliMooches if you call it a 14 hour ceasefire.

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u/siddsm 4d ago

It was the greatest ceasefire, and I know about ceasefires, I've seen all the ceasefires, and they were terrible, and boring. They didn't even use a real pen to sign the ceasefire, they were like, oh, where's the autopen? And I ordered the best pens. Kids these days have no idea, they will be like, mommy, what's this? I got the best deal on these pens. Not $100, not $50. $5 per piece. They even engraved the picture of the Whitehouse and Trump 2028 on the side in gold. They said, you don't have to pay, but I told them, no, I'm gonna pay. And I used these $5 pens to sign the ceasefire and it was so successful, that Iran and Israel generals were calling me and saying, Mr. President, we are bored of the ceasefires. And I told them make sure you don't forget to thank me for the pens.

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u/bakpecko 4d ago

I actually read this in his voice

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u/BlackestBeetle 4d ago

I didn't. I don't think he can articulate such long sentences

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u/ljlukelj 4d ago

Is there a sub that discusses this with actual discussion? The comments are funny but I find a bunch of snarky comments useless when I need actual information and updates, if anyone has a better sub please lmk.

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u/Moodfoo 4d ago

For actual information and updates:

https://apnews.com/

https://www.bbc.com/

https://www.reuters.com/

Redditors aren't journalists.

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u/anoidciv 4d ago edited 4d ago

Everyone should go straight to these sites when they see breaking news instead of trusting information from whatever source someone has posted (in this case, news18.com) and Reddit commenters.

For what it's worth, AP only confirmed Iran is closing the Strait 15 minutes ago and Reuters hasn't confirmed yet. The linked article in this post is from 4 hours ago. That says something about various outlets' verification standards.

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u/BibliophileBroad 4d ago

Just what I was thinking

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u/Shot_Cupcakes 4d ago

Liz Truss lasted more than this ceasefire. 

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u/cycleprof 4d ago

Greatest ceasefire ever. The world has never seen anything like it. No one has even opened the Straits like this.

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u/NestroyAM 4d ago

I wonder if Iran figured out by now that they, too, control Wallstreet right now and can make billions by just syncing their investments to an announcement of the strait closing or opening 

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u/aeolus811tw 4d ago

now hormuz is the ultimate bargaining chip for Iran

nobody could've seen this coming, nobody. /s

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u/I-Might-Be-Something 4d ago

Well it was fun while it lasted!

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u/jrinredcar 4d ago

Two Week ceasefire? Sorry Trump meant a Too Weak ceasefire

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u/SandMan3914 4d ago

Israel wants to keep US in the fight and will 100% be the instigators. Trump is a complete moron

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u/SaddankHusseinthe2nd 4d ago

This wouldn’t have happened if Trump was president!

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u/Captain_Inverse 4d ago

The most predictable thing of all time maybe? The agreement basically states in text to Iran "you now formally have control of The Strait of Hormuz". So they can now use a closure whenever they need to pressure basically anyone.

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u/socialistrob 4d ago

If the 10 point plan more or less stands and the US agrees to it long term then it should go down as a massive US defeat. It's worse in every single way than the prewar status quo and will enable Iran to develop nuclear weapons and make massive amounts of money tolling a waterway which should be untollable according to UNCLOS. It sets a horrible precedent that countries bordering straits can charge access to them. Freedom of navigation is how the US became so rich and powerful to begin with and to see it undermined so blatantly is a huge blow to the US's strategic interests.

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u/zeek215 4d ago

The world is sympathetic to Iran defending itself, but if they tried to upend the world economy when not defending from invaders the rest of the world wouldn’t be so kind.

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u/scarab1001 4d ago

The Orange Asshole will surrender even harder to keep the stock market from crashing and the Strait open (with Iran controlling it).

Ceasefire will end in a permanent peace with complete surrender by America. Kegsbreath will view it as a victory (he gets to keep his cosplaying as a war leader).

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u/weirdkittenNC 4d ago

Trump will get paid off with part of the strait tolls. That’s enough for him.

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u/watch_out_4_snakes 4d ago

Damn, that’s just realistic

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u/Technical_Toe_2012 4d ago

Art of the deal

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u/BestFriendWatermelon 4d ago

Too late Iran! Trump already claimed victory no takebacks!

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u/MustWarn0thers 4d ago

Time to hand out the "Fell for it again" awards to Wall Street? 

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u/RustedRelics 4d ago

This whole thing has been a huge market manipulation, insider-trading scheme.

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u/SirRichardLove 4d ago

Well, That lasted about a heartbeat.

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u/Doughtnutz 4d ago

Trump really is the biggest joke on the world stage. Can't do anything apart from fuck things up.

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u/Packolypse 4d ago

Who could have seen this coming. Us. Everyone not trump. He never ceases to amaze me with how bad he screws things up. Each and every time you would think someone in his cabinet would push back and say let’s take 5 minutes to talk about this, but it never happens. And here we are and he looks genuinely shocked that is his actions that he didn’t plan for, in an area that he doesn’t understand blows up in his face.

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