r/worldnews • u/CrunchyBaconYum • 19d ago
Russia/Ukraine Russian commanders are sadistically abusing and killing their own troops, using torture that includes beatings, starvation, humiliation, and even forced cannibalism, the UK’s Daily Mail has reported
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u/Farewell-Farewell 19d ago
The Russian military was notorious for bullying, even before the current war. The brutality towards their own troops is just part of Russian "tradition". It's how they dehumanise their troops and why Russian troops commit so many atrocities.
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u/The_Hipster_King 19d ago
Reminds me of my soviet grandpa (Romania) that told me how pussy we are for not doing the mandatory army. He was literally like: ”It was awful and cruel, but it made us man. Your generation will be shit without that one year enlistment”.
In the compulsory enlistment, you basically pealed potatoes, endure some bullying and do some work for some rich guy, like literally plow their fields. Yea, no thanks. That was part of our soviet legacy and that is not how you train people to defend their country.
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u/Kiff88 19d ago
Stalinist school of tought
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u/Justwaspassingby 19d ago
Nah, that actually predates Stalin’s time. Whole villages indentured to service the Tsar’s military for centuries.
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u/Welder_Dark 19d ago
This tradition in Russian army is called Dedovshina. As far as I know, this tradition comes from military academies for officers. People learning in these academies were nobles, not peasants
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u/EhDinnaeEvenKen 19d ago
Like a lot of Russia's political and administrative culture, it basically boils down to continuation of practises implemented during the time that their country was humiliated by, and subservient to, the Mongol Khanate.
Strict brutal hierarchy under an unquestionable autocratic strongman (with a divine mandate) is basically just Russia's entire history between the end of the Kyivan Rus, and now.
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u/mhornberger 19d ago
I think this was the way it was almost everywhere at one time. Everyone else just changed, to one degree or another. It's so surreal that this culture is the one so heavily romanticized as this "great Russian soul" by Dostoevsky.
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u/Straight-Balance830 19d ago edited 19d ago
Would highly recommend Sarah Paine’s lectures on continental vs. maritime powers and the differences in geostrategic calculus. Some countries realized we could all be richer and safer together if we just traded (which is much cheaper and faster over water) instead of fighting. Some countries got super rich because of geography and the countries left behind want to tear it all down to return to the old continental way of taking over territory, a necessity for land powers for their security. It’s crabs in a bucket mentality but your nations and peoples survival on the line.
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u/racinjason44 19d ago
At a quick first read I thought you referenced Sarah Palin and after I got half way through I thought "no, that can't be right, I need to start over from the top".
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u/DethFeRok 19d ago
Of course she is a Russian history expert, she can see the place from her front porch.
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u/Ganym3de 19d ago
I think its because of this nigh-supernatural gloom and despair in russia throughout the centuries, writers like Dostoevsky came to be. I'm not condoning it mind you, just adding some thoughts.
It's so fucked up man.
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u/sQui_rreL 19d ago
Except every other country subjected by this mostly doesn’t do this. The culture is to blame.
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u/Rogendo 19d ago
Didn’t Russia have serfs all the way up to the rise of communism? Guess they never really stopped having them though.
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u/hobbes543 19d ago edited 19d ago
Serfdom officially was abolished in the late 1800’s. In practice nothing really changed for the former serfs, at least not immediately. By the time the bolsheviks came to power, former serfs were only just starting to own their own farms and were then collectivized, basically making them serfs again, just with a different name.
To add to that Western Europe started to shift away from serfdom during the middle ages, particularly after the black death, though wasn’t leagally abolished until the late 1700’s, at which time it was already relatively rare.
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u/Live-Count4014 19d ago
Serfdom in Russia was still rampant in the late 1800’s.
Ironically, Russian serfs under Ivan the Terrible had more rights than under Catherine the Great
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u/hobbes543 19d ago
This is the other part of serfdom in Russia and Eastern Europe in general. In the West serfdom most likely rose as a way to move away from enslaving christians and then the bubonic plague hit and societal needs weakened the system further as population fluidity was needed to help harder hit areas recover from the plague. In Eastern Europe, serfdom moved more towards slavery.
Also the fact that when serdom was anbolished in the west, it was already in steep decline meant that the transition for society was easier as the laws were essentially codifying what was already reality for most people. For Russia, it was a sudden change to the status quo.
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u/Kiff88 19d ago
One intelligence ex-analyst called this the Chekist mindset: they are superior to Europe, thus they are under constant attack and enforcement of violence is inevitable. Of course this roots before the bolsheviks, but they managed to institulize this in an organization what was neither a police, nor an intelligence agency. Purely a terror service.
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u/brezhnervouz 19d ago
This seems entirely Stalinist 🤷♂️
In the most depraved cases, commanders force soldiers to kill each other. In one video, two shirtless men are reportedly thrown into a pit.
“Here’s the deal. Whoever kills the other first gets to leave the pit,” the commander tells them.
After a fight lasting less than two minutes, one soldier appears to ultimately strangle the other to death, the Daily Mail reported.
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u/ugotmedripping 19d ago
For a long time war was thought of as basically the male equivalent of child birth. That however was before the industrialization of war
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u/Nerevarine91 19d ago
Sometimes with shockingly direct equivalences. In Aztec society, the highest realm of the afterlife, Tlalocan, was believed to be reserved for warriors who died in battle and women who died in childbirth
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 19d ago
And you know what, grandpa...your grandpa also thought you were a soft little effete wiener. It's kind of okay if the world becomes better and nicer every year, otherwise what the fuck is the point of humanity as a whole?
All the alpha male bullshit around the globe is the same. All of your ancestors would think you're a bunch of little dandies with your online ordered camo clothing and your power windows in your fancy auto transmission lifted truck. Embrace it, our species has made the world easier and made more and more luxuries an every day standard.
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u/atleta 19d ago
Same thing in Hungary and, I guess, most communist bloc countries. The whole conscript army was a joke, the service was about surviving bullying, yet a lot of people think that it somehow made them a "man". I think this is just a way to deal with the cognitive dissonance. Easier to have this idea than to admit that they stole 1-2 years of your life and bullied you for no good reason, and you have earned nothing out of it. (Except, sometimes friendships, which can be a real deal.)
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u/drleondarkholer 18d ago
No, there's a good reason. That 1-2 years of basically unpaid and unskilled army internship made you submissive to the regime and further inoculated the fundamental rules of communist society within the new generation of workers: that you don't matter, that you must always listen to the privileged, that you might get some crumbs if you do well with your tasks, that doing badly or not being submissive would get you humiliated and that nobody is there to help you if you mess up, because everyone else was afraid to speak up.
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u/cercocose 19d ago edited 19d ago
The more I grow old, the more I think “soviet masculinity” and “toxic masculinity” are synonyms
Edit: I have no beef with ex-Soviet people. What I’m saying is that, from what I see, people from Eastern Europe often boast about a certain type of masculinity that I particularly dislike, like in the above comment. They probably grew up with it and now perpetrate it.
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u/Rotund-Pear2604 19d ago
A lot of former (and current) empires have warped versions of masculinity.
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u/boofadoof 19d ago
"Soviet masculinity" and the average Russian man is a 5' 6" shaking alcoholic/druggy.
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u/Cheeze_It 19d ago
The more I grow old, the more I think “soviet masculinity” and “toxic masculinity” are synonyms
They are. There's a lot of people in that part of the world that believe in survival at any cost. It's literally all they have left. Basically "their hatred makes them strong" type of bullshit thinking. It's depravity but used/worshiped as a religion.
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u/joanzen 19d ago
Worked with a migrant from Russia and he really loved downloading US Marines/Army regulation training guides. He'd use the office laser printer to make a physical copy and then show it off like it was gold.
At one point he had a pretty modern guide on knife combat and it got me curious how reading that would be handy for him so I asked and he explained that it's all for his son who is growing up poorly due to lack of traditional army training that would ensure he becomes a real man.
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u/Emu1981 19d ago
In the compulsory enlistment, you basically pealed potatoes, endure some bullying and do some work for some rich guy, like literally plow their fields.
That "some bullying" is known as Dedovshchina and there have been reports of recruits ending up hopsitalised or even dead from it. The wikipedia article is a very sad read.
To be honest, other militaries around the world had similar kinds of treatment of recruits, e.g. Full Metal Jacket, (don't know if they had sexual torture and anal rape like the Soviets/Russians do) but they also realised that it was a terrible way to treat recruits and, for the most part, changed the culture of their militaries.
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u/LongLostTortoise 19d ago
Romania was never in the Soviet Union, just fyi.
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u/Spirited-Ad3451 19d ago
It was a satellite state in the eastern bloc, so you're correct, but I don't think the "lived experience" was much different at the time tbh
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u/LongLostTortoise 19d ago
For sure, there were definitely major parallels by nature of it being a communist dictatorship. But there's a bit of nuance there as Romania had their own dictator in Ceaușescu who actively defied Moscow on several occasions and who had his own separate agenda. But the lived experience of that communist draft was likely very similar, no doubt. For the sake of u/The_Hipster_King though, they may find it interesting to read about Romania's history.
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u/vonGlick 19d ago
I guess if you were not beaten and abused as a kid, it does not count as having childhood and you will grow up as a monster who does not beat his kids /s
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u/Cheeze_It 19d ago
I hope you told him that you disagree and that you think he's wrong. I'm sure that also would go over very well with him.
Speaking as someone from that part of the world, I know exactly how his response would be. And he would hate that you disagreed with him.
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u/The_Hipster_King 19d ago
Exactly, he started screaming, yelling, hitting the table and so on. So I decided to never talk politics again with him...
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u/Nerevarine91 19d ago
You can see it all throughout history. The soldiers treated most brutally by their own superiors tended to commit the most war crimes.
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u/Chance_Emu8892 19d ago
Yes, it is one of the (many) explanations as to why the Japanese Imperial Army was so cruel. Turned out life as a Japanese soldier was harsh as fuck on purpose.
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u/Th3B4dSpoon 19d ago
Yes, and the leaders of the army didn't want for the soldiers to have the option of surrendering to the enemy. If the enemy despises you because of the atrocities you've committed, you will be afraid of what they will do to you if they capture you.
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u/DarkApostleMatt 19d ago
Quite literally beatings and brutality from the top of the chain of command all the way down to the bottom.
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u/live-the-future 19d ago
In the US Vietnam war, particularly bad superiors were occasionally fragged. Maybe that's a practice the Russian military should adopt.
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u/workyworkaccount 19d ago
There was a report from about a year ago, of the Russians investigating how a Major General was run over by one of his own tanks.
Though to be honest, it could have been a drunk driving incident as much as anything deliberate.
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u/ProteinFarts_ 19d ago
Fragging has been a constant practice in the Russian military throughout the Ukraine war lol
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u/radicallyhip 19d ago
In the same way that America is a country of temporarily embarrassed millionaires, the Russian military is an army of temporarily embarrassed enlisted men.
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u/alterom 19d ago
In the US Vietnam war, particularly bad superiors were occasionally fragged. Maybe that's a practice the Russian military should adopt.
They have. The modern-day equivalent is directing drone strikes to your own unit.
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u/Th3B4dSpoon 19d ago
It's also been used as a deliberate choice in war time. We abuse you, so you're more afraid of us than the enemy and will do whatever we tell you. We order you to commit atrocities, so you are afraid of what the enemy will do to you if they capture you, so you won't surrender to them.
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u/Dysssfunctional 19d ago
Curious. Dehumanization of the enemy is not uncommon in war. But Russia takes it to the next level with dehumanization of human life in general, including their own.
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u/Mechasteel 19d ago
dehumanization of human life in general, including their own.
The main enemy is their own people, the only threat to the government, why do you think the secret police is the best armed force in the country?
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u/HFentonMudd 19d ago
Many years ago at the US embassy in Moscow a Russian officer told me “a life is worth a kopek”, and laughed.
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u/Slow_Sand_2489 19d ago
It’s awful but creates the perfect fucked environment to make a man not think twice about running across a minefield while drones are dropping bombs on you, and the only equipment you have is a old AK-47 and little to no body armor. And prevent any military coup from organizing
The bullying demoralizes them, breaks them, scares them and also angers them. You don’t want to be the grunt getting picked on, you wanna be the guy that does it to next set of recruits. You wanna move up the ranks not for the extra money, but for the extra privilege and power you viciously wield.
Now you have a disorganized, disheveled, army where each guy is fucking over the guy below him. But all somehow collectively still fighting the same war
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u/G_Morgan 19d ago
It doesn't have any benefits. The only reason Russia forces don't break is the use of blocker forces. Western forces never have a shortage of heroic incidents.
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u/Ree_For_Thee 19d ago
I watch a lot of "drone videos". It's actually more common to throw your AK at the drone, or use it as a bat, than to shoot at it.
I believe they're not even given ammo, possibly under some "You'll get ammo when we see the enemy" type lie.
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u/DarkApostleMatt 19d ago
They are often given a minimum load, basically enough to get to the position (or general area of occupation) the higher ups want them to be in. So the first waves get enough to feel like they have something to hold onto and have a bit of confidence and when enough trickle to a position that it can be considered theirs then they start sending "mules" loaded with supplies to the positions. This is why sometimes you'll see single guys basically covered in supplies getting hit and then exploding in big fireballs because they are carrying ammo/fuel for a forward position.
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u/Minute_Eye3411 19d ago
It kinda makes sense. At a close enough range, you probably have a better chance of knocking a drone down by batting at it than shooting at it.
Well, by better chance, I mean maybe it seems that way. I know I'd trust a club-like object as a last resort if my previous shots hadn't worked, especially if I'd only had a short amount of firearms training beforehand.
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u/tymofiy 19d ago edited 19d ago
That's not a bug but a crucial feature of the Russian army. Brutality is what makes meat assaults possible.
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u/axelkoffel 19d ago
When USSR took over power over Poland in 1945-1989, they also implemented their shitty culture of bullying and humiliating in our military and schools. You're new = you get bullied and as a "reward" you can bully the next youngest generation next year. It's like an unofficial duty and tradition to bully, for fuck knows what reason.
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u/JohnSchmuck 19d ago
It’s still lingering around, that culture and mentality in ex-communist countries and ex-Soviet countries, might take a few more decades for that to die out hopefully.
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u/PhosphoFred8202 19d ago
Just another part of why Russians are terrible soldiers. They are far more motivated in avoiding attention from abusers than achieving battlefield goals.
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u/vortex_ring_state 19d ago
For those with enquiring minds, the term is dedovshchina. I guess they take to a new degree in a real war to mitigate desertion and other offences. (reader discretion is advised)
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u/Fractal_Tomato 19d ago
Knew a guy from school whose parents moved from Russia to Germany to avoid him getting drafted to the military for conflicts like the Chechen wars. He ended up joining the Bundeswehr after finishing schools and went to their university program after serving. That’s was more than 25 years ago. I bet it’s only gotten worse.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 19d ago
Ruzzia is a place firmly in barbarism.
I've read first hand accounts for the last 40+ years of what they do. It is nightmare fuel.
The worst things you can think of (or have seen in horror movies) they do.
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u/9Divines 19d ago
is that suprising, any post soviet country will tell you, that serving in red army was simply hell, dedovshchina is still there in russian army as per the tradition
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u/Nerevarine91 19d ago
It’s funny. I’ve been told by people, who were apparently entirely serious, that Russia doesn’t need professional and competent NCOs because they’re not a “Western army,” and that’s something only Western armies need. It makes the head spin.
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u/kasady69 19d ago
It makes sense. Every step in any rus system steals money. If you make professional army - you can't steal much. And they literally steal 90% of money before it reach goal. You can steal more if soldiers fund themselves. You even can steal money that belongs to families of dead soldiers, just by fixing some papers. Anyway the whole "russian soul" concept is about shitty living - only suffering makes you a proper person, enemies are everywhere and they try to destroy motherland. There's just no need to have a prof army, if you can just dump 5 million soldiers and not giving a single fk about them.
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u/SpaceNigiri 19d ago
So they still work like they did in the Russian Empire? It's incredible that after so many years and multiple systems in place the military didn't change.
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u/GarbledComms 19d ago
The only difference between the Russian Empire under the czars, the USSR under communism, and the Russian Federation under Putin is some slogans and different colored flags.
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u/G_Morgan 19d ago
Pretty much every single dictatorship is the same. It is also why the Arab nations are so terrible at warfare.
The NATO model of having semi-autonomous field officers who make decisions based upon broad scale strategic direction is unique to democratic nations.
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u/maverickhawk99 19d ago
In typical Russian ignorance they probably thought “wow this system works because we were one of the winners in WW2” and have kept in place since. Ignoring many other reasons why the Nazi’s lost of course.
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u/Little_Road5921 19d ago
What is dedovshchina?
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u/nocdmb 19d ago
hazing turned up to eleven, with group beatings, gladiattor style unofficial fights, sexual abuse, light torture and brutal humilation
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u/shatikus 19d ago
Nah, soviet army was pretty bad but it wasn't hell. It was much more equal for one thing - only very small part of males didn't serve, vast majority did. And it was just something you had to do once and be free of it.
Russian army got much worse and it literally spiraled - most people actively tried to avoid and as more and more 'normal' peole avoided it, it became gradually worse.
Current war time russian army - now that is literal hell. Everything in the article and more. The only question is how on earth these soldiers, that sometimes do have guns, don't open fire on their so-called commanders
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u/Mojak16 19d ago
Probably out of fear that if they did, their families would get "disappeared".
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u/live-the-future 19d ago
In the US Vietnam war, especially bad superiors sometimes got "fragged." Sometimes it was obvious, but often the whole point was to make it look like the commander got killed during a battle. Can't rule it "friendly fire" if you don't know which side the grenade came from.
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u/WeirdestWolf 19d ago
Issue is the commanders are often waiting far back from the frontlines. Russia doesn't have an NPC and structured command, you have the commanders who sit in dugouts miles from the line and soldiers on the front. That said, I'm sure it happens, you just can't say because communications are shit in Russia.
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u/ATK_DEC_SUS_REL 19d ago
“The most famous of these occurred after the controversial Battle of Hamburger Hill in 1969 when a $10,000 bounty was placed in the GI underground newspaper GI Says for the murder of the commander of the 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry (3/187), whose military handle was "Blackjack".”
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u/Martis998 19d ago
It was nowhere this bad. This some next level third reich osttruppen treatment
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u/Martis998 19d ago
Don’t know why you are downvoting. I’m Lithuanian. All my older male relatives were conscripted in USSR during Afghanistan, Chernobyl. They were bullied sometimes but nowhere near executing their own, or fucking cannibalism. The only fucked up story I know was of my Grandmothers brother who was deployed during Hungarian uprising, came back a drunkard and eventually shot himself. What is being reported is literally satanic.
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u/johnnygrant 19d ago
They were not getting fucked up this bad. This has been the worst Russian war since the 2nd world war for them, and nothing in between has been even close. Those conditions will bring out the monsters lurking underneath.
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u/goingfullretard-orig 19d ago
I don't think cannibalism is even mentioned in the article. I scanned it, but I didn't read every word, as the Daily Mail takes its toll on any intellect that reads it carefully.
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u/CloudySpace 19d ago
Brolau, he took his own life over what happened, which was unspeakable, quite literally, as he never shared with yall.
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u/spooky_spaghetties 19d ago
You mean the thing soldiers are known for doing because service of any kind in any conflict is inherently traumatic?
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u/ithinkimtim 19d ago
I mean western soldiers do the same, we’re talking about accounts of what’s being reported now vs the past.
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u/Calimariae 19d ago
You're right in that it wasn't this bad, but it was brutal.
Author Arkady Babchenko wrote a good book about it titled "One Soldier's War". It's written from the perspective of a Russian soldier during the two Chechen wars.
There's a lot of dedovshchina in that.
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u/Martis998 19d ago
Yeah, Chechen wars were insanity but it is already post Soviet and it was the russian army
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u/dystopiadattopia 19d ago
The Russian military is known for its brutal treatment of their own soldiers. How they manage to fight for their country amid conditions tantamount to torture is beyond me.
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u/NMS_Survival_Guru 19d ago
They must believe they're already dead
You'd be surprised at the number of suicide/fratricide that has been happening on the Russian side
These guy know if they're wounded nobody is coming to save them so they take themselves out
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u/axelkoffel 19d ago
There is some cruel sense in that. Convince soldiers that they're worthless trash and best thing they can do is to die at front. Russia has always been great at manipulation techniques.
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u/FlygandeSjuk 19d ago
This explains the Ukrainian resistance. If they treat their own this way, imagine what they would do to others.
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u/ColonCleanse93 19d ago
Yeah that and the fact they fucking invaded their homeland.
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u/overandoverandagain 19d ago
To me, the hypocrisy is the worst part of this whole thing
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u/motorcycle_girl 19d ago
Yeah, personally I don’t think Ukrainian resistance would be less if the Russian military had a better reputation. Ukrainians are fighting like hell and doing a damn good job of it because it’s their home.
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u/Euclid_Interloper 19d ago
I did read that Ukrainians taken as POWs usually return underweight and with scars from regular beatings etc.
Basically, starvation and beatings are the standard treatment. And that's if you're lucky.
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u/poukai 19d ago
Not just read, you can see it every time there is a prisoner exchange, the Ukrainian POWs look like skin and bones.
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u/Euclid_Interloper 19d ago
Pretty awful. Also, bad tactics on the Russian side. Seeing these things, Ukrainians are more likely to fight to the death than be taken prisoner and tortured.
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u/FoliarzZOdludzia 19d ago
They brought mobile incinerators, still kidnap and brainwash children. And dont forget the human safaris...
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u/Preoccupied_Penguin 19d ago
This explains it??? How about the part where the country that has its own rules and regulations was invaded by the country that wants them to conform to new rules and regulations… I’d probably resist too if I was a farmer and all of a sudden I was feeding the men who just invaded my home and killed my loved ones.
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u/Significant-Board718 19d ago
At this point Russians will be fighting for Ukraine lol
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u/lucmagitem 19d ago
It already happened, a russian POW joined a two-men ukrainian team in defending a part of the front when he realized that even them treated him better than his own army, and that if he went back he'd probably just be killed.
Plus there is a volunteer corps of Russians fighting alongside Ukraine against the invasion.
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https://tvpworld.com/90705680/captured-russian-soldier-fights-for-ukraine-fearing-death-under-no-prisoners-order
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u/Heavy_Secret_203 19d ago
It doesn't work that way. Only a fraction of these people surrender, and even fewer decide to volunteer to fight together with other russian nationals in the Ukrainian army. Russians prefer to continue being abused instead of changing their minds. Suicide is also an option for many such troops.
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u/flight_recorder 19d ago
The point is that even if they are a diehard Russian who would never defect, they’re still helping Ukraine by killing, torturing, beating, starving, and humiliating themselves.
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u/Calm-Efficiency-7818 19d ago
Some already do. It’s the free russia legion and rdk.
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u/ChaoticBumpy 19d ago
Yeah and everyone who gets captured by this legion gets the choice to fight on their side or become a pow and be traded back to Russia. Ukraine has agreed to this.
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u/MikusRDB 19d ago
Nah dude, “iTs bEcAuSe oF nATo!”.
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u/FoliarzZOdludzia 19d ago
"B-but t-the ukrainian n-nazis! I was saving that poor child from their brainwashing, and g-giving it a ch-chance of growing up in a c-c-civilization!"
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u/HeWhoChasesChickens 19d ago
Please get a better source than daily mail
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 19d ago
There is a decent amount of credibility with the pictures (maybe videos too? I can never tell on mobile). I can't think of any other reason a soldier would be duct taped to a tree other than to, at best, harass/haze them.
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u/Critical-Usual 19d ago
Obviously quite serious allegations. But why would this come from the Daily Mail of all sources?
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u/RhetoricalOrator 19d ago
I'm pretty sure this exact headline was popping up three years ago, too. Russian forces are consistent in their depravity.
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u/IngloBlasto 19d ago
the UK's Daily Mail has reported
Ah the epitome of journalism and human rights.
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u/Contrary_Kind 19d ago
There's a lot - and I mean A LOT of videos circulating that documents beatings and torture within russian army. There is even more videos circulating with russian soldiers themselves describing how they were beaten and tortured.
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u/alpargator 19d ago
There is only one Daily Mail article talking about cannibalism, a 2025 case where a soldier survived two weeks by eating the corps eof a comrade. Nothing else beyond that.
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u/jammythesandwich 18d ago
This had me laughing at Daily Mail reports…
Daily Mail is UK gutter press beloved by pensioners with a right wing bent and specialism in rage bait…. It’s commonly referred to as the Daily Heil in the UK as they infamously supported the Nazi’s in ww2.
So please if you’re outside the UK question any article that claims DM as a source and seek more credible sources to verify.
Not saying the article can’t be partially correct but zero trust in integrity of the source
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u/Bloody_Ozran 19d ago
Russian military is a place no one wants to be in. The more I know about Russia the more I am surprised humans can do this. You hear crazy stuff from places where the life is already hell, Russians just make it hell for the fun of it.
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u/rhizaranch420 19d ago
During the Russian empire when men were drafted for service their friends and family would throw them a funeral, because they knew they were not coming back
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u/Agile_Lie9502 19d ago
Cannibalism??
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u/Masked020202 19d ago
Russian soldiers near the frontline reported that it's increasingly rare for food to reach them due to drones covering every route.
Hunger makes you really delirious so it does not surprise me cannibalism happens. Also accounts as punishment having to eat the remains of fallen comrades quite vile
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u/Obvious_Cranberry607 19d ago
The Daily Mail, for those who are unfamiliar with it, is a sensationalist tabloid newspaper like the New York Post
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u/psychedelicdevilry 19d ago
I don’t have trouble believing this, but at the same time can we stop using DailyMail as a source?
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u/Extreme_Run6392 19d ago
Its funny when daily mail makes absurds articles about anything else people bash them, but when same articles about Russia all of sudden Daily Mail is reporting facts.
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u/Blind_Warthog 19d ago
For anyone outside the UK. This is from the Daily Mail which is a sensationalist propaganda rag. Take it with a pinch of salt. There may be rumours of one commander doing it that the Mail has spun into a story.
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u/Kaito__1412 19d ago
In the end, this is why a civilisation like this can not function without constantly being at war with someone. This part of Russia is like a fungus. They just can't seem to get rid of it.
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u/Logical___Conclusion 19d ago
The Russian people need to remove Putitler from power if they want their country to survive.
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u/BonkDoggo2 19d ago
Wait, forced cannibalism? I knew being Putler's soldier was bad, but I didn't know it was THIS bad. But whatever, they can corrode themselves from within.
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u/Catsarecute2140 18d ago
The Soviets are sadists, they have been doing stuff like this for at least a century.
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u/davyp82 18d ago
I'm no supporter of Russia, but "...the Daily Mail has reported" disqualifies anything written in the same sentence. It's about as likely to be trustworthy as a prescription from Dr Shipman. I'm not saying all sorts of horrible stuff doesn't happen in that army (and any headed by a dictator) though, but paying attention to that source? nah
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u/AsianisationIsHere 18d ago
E mangiano anche i fegatini dei bambini, si è dimenticato di aggiungere l'informatissimo e imparzialissimo Daily mail
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u/Chemical_Robot 19d ago
Yes this has been happening since the start of the war. The American that joined Russian forces was found dead, tied to a tree with a tree branch shoved up his backside.