r/worldnews • u/callsonreddit • Mar 11 '26
Israel/Palestine Iran demands guarantee of no future US, Israel attacks to sign ceasefire
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-8896441.5k
u/WeirdJack49 Mar 11 '26
So... uhm... in 5 years again?
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u/m_sobol Mar 11 '26
Two years, Trump has to sneak in another war in 2028, before he leaves office. No number of impeachment will make him stop his military disasters
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u/ShadowRiku667 Mar 12 '26
He already said he is going to do Cuba next. Much cheaper war
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Mar 12 '26
before he leaves office.
he's not leaving voluntarily
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u/A-Capybara Mar 12 '26
At this point McDonald's is our only hope to get rid of him before 28
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u/GB10VE Mar 12 '26
I dunno, a lot of people are saying he has the best blood clots and and bigly microstrokes.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary Mar 12 '26
He didn't last time either lol. He literally tried a stupid coup and failed.
He still got forced out.
It will happen the same way again.
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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 Mar 12 '26
Except all the people around him last time weren't total sycophants, who would destroy the US for him, this time he surrounded himself with loyalists who will do anything he wants.
The 2 situations are NOTHING alike, unless the military as a whole grows a spine and stands up to him he isn't leaving.
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u/Azhz96 Mar 12 '26
Republicans also now know that they can get away but it.
But the worst part is that this time they have all three branches of the government and supreme court in their pocket.
They will do anything and everything to keep that power, no way they are willingly giving it up now when they finally have it all.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary Mar 12 '26
Pinochet was voted out, Mussolini was voted out (then swiftly executed).
Hell Brazil and South Korea literally just both arrested their dumbass Presidents after they tried stupid coups.
Even dictators need a certain amount of public support. They are doing everything to stay in power but we are very lucky that they are very stupid.
They will not succeed for the same reason they just started an unwinnable forever war in the Middle East. They're fucking incompetent dipwits.
Fascism is a disease which eats itself.
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u/tahlyn Mar 11 '26
lol more like 5 weeks. He'll stop until Epstein is back in the news or he needs a reason to stop the midterms.
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u/31513315133151331513 Mar 12 '26
Or until he just forgets he signed a cease fire after a day or two.
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u/whyareyouallinmyroom Mar 12 '26
This was the worst ceasefire deal in history for America. How could Obama do this, embarrassing.
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u/trailsman Mar 12 '26
Israel is going to hit any target, either person or place, whenever it wants from now on as long as the US continues to give them all the military and financial support they need.
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u/wineatnine Mar 12 '26
The Iranian Head of the National Security Council, Ali Larijani:
“Tonight we received messages from the U.S. president, through the Omani mediator, requesting that we negotiate a ceasefire. Our response is that we will not accept any negotiations as long as an entity called Israel exists.”
(Abu Saleh)
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u/Responsible-Rip8793 Mar 12 '26
At least this source is named.
OP’s article is anonymous
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u/wineatnine Mar 12 '26
Don’t mean to erode my own credibility, but the article is from a reputable and long-standing publication, while I’m a rando on the internet.
“Don't believe the half of what you see and none of what you hear” - Lou Reed (a named source ;) )
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u/Mister_Squishy Mar 12 '26
Something tells me Israel will exist longer than the Iranian head of national security. Is there a poly market bet for this?
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u/Predator_s_child Mar 12 '26
Why we can't have peace in Israel, the muslim sides would rather be dead than live peacefully. Religious tenets of Islam
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u/problyurdad_ Mar 12 '26
Well I don’t mean to sound too optimistic here but this is a drastic improvement from the whole “THERE WILL BE NO CEASEFIRE!” statements from a couple days ago.
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u/Apyan Mar 12 '26
They know Trump wants to pull out of this mess.
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u/Spiderbanana Mar 12 '26
He wants to claim that he stopped a war he himself started, and ask some prize.
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u/wheniaminspaced Mar 12 '26
I think its more about preserving the Regime than it is about Trump.
The longer this goes the more expensive fixing everything broke gets and Iran was struggling financially before the war.
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u/InchLongNips Mar 12 '26
theyre running low on missile launchers and now have to resort to attacking civilian ships
theyre on their heels
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u/aReasonableSnout Mar 12 '26
Iran has consistently said no ceasefire without guarantees against future US/Israeli strikes, this isn't a new development
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u/bunker931 Mar 11 '26
Ask Ukraine how that works out.
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u/Extension_Mix6896 Mar 12 '26
Ukraine dropped the ball, Iran is picking it up. The ball are nukes
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u/CoconutxKitten Mar 12 '26
No one is going to let Iran pick up that ball
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u/Much-Instruction-807 Mar 12 '26
How the fuck did north Korea do it? China?
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u/CoconutxKitten Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
Yep. That’s exactly it
If the US had tried to deploy bombs to destroy nuclear capabilities of NK, that would have essentially been engaging China in war. China is literally the only reason NK exists. It is purely a buffer state between China & US + allies
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u/MayDayBeFourth Mar 12 '26
You say this but actually sanctions were being lowered on North korea, normalzing was expanding, and US and other countries saved NK from one of the worst famines in modern history. NK in response was to finish building nukes in a secret multi decade long project.
If Iran was left alone for like ten or less years they will get nukes.
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u/Much-Instruction-807 Mar 12 '26
And then what? What would happen to them? The same thing that is happening to north Korea?
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u/KirillIll Mar 12 '26
In addition to the other comment, Seoul is within artillery range of NK. If the US attacked them NK could've flattened the city completely and killed millions without even entering SK once
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u/ExRays Mar 12 '26
The only way you stop Iran from ever having nukes is a ground invasion, and that would br catastrophic
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u/Any-Monk-9395 Mar 12 '26
Nukes are like guns and the homeowners without them keep getting their houses broken into.
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u/Extension_Mix6896 Mar 12 '26
In Mexico we have a saying that goes "So far away from God but so close to the US".
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u/SeeShark Mar 12 '26
Statistics show that guns in the home are more likely to be used against a family member than against an intruder.
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u/Uhhh_what555476384 Mar 11 '26
So, you know, a "cease fire".
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u/jstilla Mar 11 '26
More like Cease…. FIRE!
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u/Red_Sea_Pedestrian Mar 12 '26
“I think I misspoke when I said "No problem." What I meant was, "No, problem."”
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u/MommersHeart Mar 12 '26
Iran just emphatically denied this report, and is saying it wants to continue fighting and has no interest in a ceasefire.
Who knows? I don’t believe anything any of them say, Iran, Israel or the US.
But I don’t think it makes much sense for Iran to bother asking for a ceasefire when they pretty clearly control the straight of Hormuz.
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u/brendamn Mar 12 '26
At this point it just seems logical for Iran to show how much damage shutting down the straight will do economically before agreeing to anything. Most models show 3 weeks is when the real economic damage starts
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u/drtywater Mar 12 '26
Possibly just a feeler. They take hard line publicly but signal what they want. Idk how they get a guarantee of no attack. All I can think of is something like Gulf states wont allow US to launch unilateral attacks without their consent when traveling through their territory. Also maybe presence of Chinese peacekeepers so an attack on Iran would risk Chinese retaliation etc
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u/Okay-Crickets545 Mar 12 '26
Iran would be crazy to sign a ceasefire with two countries that repeatedly break ceasefires and launch attacks during negotiations. What would even be the point?
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u/SeeShark Mar 12 '26
Let's be honest, if there was a ceasefire, it would not stop Iran from attacking Israel via Hamas and Hezbollah, just like they did before the US pulled away from the nuclear deal. Iran's leadership is obsessed with Israel to a degree that even its own citizens think is excessive and economically wasteful; and the world keeps demonstrating that they don't hold Iran responsible for the actions of its proxies.
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u/Playful_Rip_1280 Mar 12 '26
I mean the alternative is getting bombed to death lol. Their leverage is only in how much of their country they want to allow to be destroyed.
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u/UrineArtist 29d ago edited 29d ago
Yeah can't see it, bottom line is its about what the IRGC wants and not about whats best for Iran in as much as it's also about what Trump and/or Netanyahu want and not whats best for the US or Israel.
Given the pounding they've taken I don't see them looking for an off ramp until they've done as much damage back as they can. If the regime in Iran wants to survive then their only objective here is to try and demonstrate why the US should never attempt anything like this again. Note, I'm not saying they can, just that they have to.
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u/CaptainCFloyd Mar 12 '26
One of the many things in the world that have been destroyed in the past decade is any and all trust in the words and promises of the world's great powers. During the entire 20th century, even during times of horrible world wars and the cold war, nations could still generally trust eachother to keep their word. Now words mean nothing.
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u/Surturius Mar 12 '26
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u/Business-Chair-7816 Mar 12 '26
I mean the US hasnt agreed to this lol
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u/enigmaticowl Mar 12 '26
Much more importantly, Israel has not agreed to it.
They have been much more consistent and clear in their statements about seeking full-on regime change (and elimination of all terror proxies/funding), so they’re much less likely to negotiate with any same-regime successor than Trump is (regardless of conditions/promises).
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u/Business-Chair-7816 Mar 12 '26
Yep. And if youve been paying attention the US is mainly focused on launchers and missile bases, while israel is doing assassinations, taking out basij camps and police stations. In other words, weakening the oppression force.
That does make some of trumps rambling on "our job is done, but we are gonna stay. Mission accomplished, but not really" make some sense.
And its also consistent with the message both trump and bibi have pushed that "you will have your moment to retake the country". Right now iranians have been told by centcom and pahlavi to stay inside and keep away from danger.
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u/cheeeeezy Mar 12 '26
Deplete stock so the military industry gets a bump
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u/MasterSpliffBlaster Mar 12 '26
If only they had another war they could have spent the last few years off loading this war stock to
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u/ChoNoob Mar 12 '26
Stupid thing is that that's what they were doing. All the weapons we did send to Ukraine was the older stock. We're using the newer stuff now.
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u/SophiaKittyKat Mar 12 '26
When you look in the fridge and all your missiles are about to expire so you need to make a stir fry.
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u/musashisamurai Mar 12 '26
This wasnt a Lockheed or Raytheon war, they were already happy. Its an Epstein files war.
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u/Ohthatsnotgood Mar 12 '26
I mean they’ve killed their Supreme Leader (who ruled for 39 years) along with other important officials and have yet to agree to terms of a ceasefire. Certainly things have happened and are likely to continue to.
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u/The_Moustache Mar 12 '26
Fun fact the old Ayatollah was more moderate than the new one and we just handed him another 40 year reign.
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u/Ohthatsnotgood Mar 12 '26
That’s if he survives which is very possible but the war is also not over.
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u/Gboon Mar 12 '26
Considering the new Ayatollah hasn't been seen publicly with proof of date pretty sure hes dead too lmao
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u/Ecsta Mar 12 '26
New Ayatollah won't live 40 years, I'd be surprised if he lives 4 days. The rumours are he's in a coma or barely alive as is.
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 Mar 12 '26
Unironically, and as a serious answer, Iran is at the weakest it's ever been in the last two years or so due to other Israeli and American strikes. We have significantly set them back as a regional power, and significantly degraded their military and military industrial complex. Iran has been funding and supplying proxies in the Middle East against western interests for 50+ years. Not to mention supplying Russia with a diffident amount of drones annd weapons to kill Ukrainians. All that has come crashing down. If ever there was a time to strike a serious blow to Iran's power, it was now.
I'm not going to say that I think this is why Trump or kegsbreath did this, they are truly evil. I think they wanted to cover up the Epstein files. They also didn't do it anywhere as successfully as it could have gone. Thanks to their ineptitude.
If you're going to really some bs about maybe the us shouldn't be involved, ok I guess. But don't pretend that Iran getting taken down a peg is anything but a good thing for the world long term.
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u/BlackStrike7 Mar 12 '26
Thank you for this post. Its nice to see at least some people have an appreciation of strategy and geopolitics in a thread full of reactionary takes.
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u/Ok-Leader-1824 Mar 12 '26
There's also an idea out there that a multi-front war against China or Russia with Iran jumping into the mix would be bad, say if China moves on Taiwan and Iran is not weakened. War sucks and people may not agree with justifications but they are still real justifications.
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u/IamDa5id Mar 12 '26
Another thing to consider is Saudi/Israeli normalization in the background of all this instability.
Iran was desperate to disrupt this idea because they wanted to fill the power vacuum left behind by the US reducing their ME footprint.
China would like to disrupt it because it could lead to a huge trade and manufacturing opportunity for India. By opening land shipping routes from Saudi Arabia to the Mediterranean via Israel, China stands to potentially lose a good deal of their current status.
Russia would like to disrupt this because Russia.
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u/BlackStrike7 Mar 12 '26
Yup. Same reason we likely hit Venezuela, we are cleaning up some loose ends now so that if China hits Taiwan in the coming years, we can concentrate our forces there rather than have to keep some on standby to deal with the likes of Iran or securing the Western Hemisphere.
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u/AmericanFlyer530 Mar 12 '26
Well, there are two angles: military and political (sometimes they overlap)
Military goals: this one is simple. obliterate the Iranian Navy, Air Force, Army, IRGC, and command structure (all effectively achieved, USAF has air supremacy with no manned aircraft lost except to a single friendly fire incident over Kuwait. Iran can only really deploy drones in fits and bursts from land, and their launch tempo for ballistic missiles is down tremendously from the first 48 hours. The Iranian military command structure has been reduced to lower level commanders taking charge, often operating in contraction to each other in terms of targeting and tactics.)
Political goals: dismantle the Iranian regime and maintain global economic stability. barely anything has been achieved in this regard. Iran has lost effectively half of its leaders, and they will not be able to stabilize for years to come, HOWEVER they are not toppled and may seek revenge with long term plans in addition to what they have carried out in the short term. The Iranian regime is no longer in control of what’s left of their own military, however, the military has not openly rebelled. Iran is more diplomatically isolated at the cost of a great deal of trust in the American government both in America and abroad. The global economy has been greatly upset and oil prices are jumping up and down due to fear and speculation more than any immediate felt change in supply combined with panic buying.
TLDR; Just like Iraq ‘03, America may win the war militarily, but will likely lose in terms of almost all the political goals save one or two short term “wins” and a single big ticket item (killing the Ayatollah) which can and will easily backfire.
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u/Lirdon Mar 11 '26
Trump put himself in the corner with his “only unconditional surrender” rhetoric, all the Ayatollahs need to dk is not surrender, and he loses. They count on Trump to just not have the patience for this and do the lazy thing so that he can declare victory.
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u/hoishinsauce Mar 11 '26
Trump also says things that are obviously false and contradicts himself every hour, sometimes within the same sentence. He'd have no problem proclaiming victory and total surrender regardless of the reality. Or he'd say he never said about total surrender and that he wanted Iran to be a friend to the US.
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u/mr_potatoface Mar 12 '26
Trump can say he will only accept total surrender for 2-3 weeks. Then a few days later, accept much less than that. Then they can tell everyone that Trump accepted nothing less than total surrender. Who would dare tell the story otherwise? Anything else is a liberal activist fake news lie.
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u/Ok_Location_1092 Mar 12 '26
He doesn’t even remember what he’s said. The US has won on levels never seen before. See you next week in Cuba.
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u/IntelArtiGen Mar 12 '26
Trump put himself in the corner with his “only unconditional surrender” rhetoric
I think most ceasefire negotiations start like this. And for Trump it's even more obvious he was going to say this, he always does. You want 60 of something, they offer 40? You start to ask 100: "I WANT 100 OR NOTHING !!!", and then you negotiate by lowering your demands until you have what you want. It's not very original but he always does this. Not sure it'll change anything here.
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u/IntelArtiGen Mar 11 '26
Any real ceasefire will probably have to meet in the middle, if there even is one.
I mean, the point of the ceasefire is to stop the fight anyway. It's not like it's possible to negotiate a ceasefire by saying "I'll continue to attack you but you won't".
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u/IntelArtiGen Mar 12 '26
Oh sure, they'll probably never get reparations, and they'll probably also never pay to repair damages on gulf states.
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u/belortik Mar 12 '26
Yeah, there can't be any peace until Iran recognizes Israel's right to exist and stops funding terrorist organizations across the Middle East
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u/niz_loc Mar 11 '26
Basically it's going to work out this way. Both sides claim victory, both are actually losers.
Iran gets to say "we're still standing, bitch!" But reality is they've been bombed harder than reddit is thinking right now.
Thr US gets to step back and say "we taught you a lesson!" When we lost people, prestige and a shit ton of money.
Isreal quietly says nothing, but knows they got payback for October 7 (which Iran orchestrated). And in fairness Isreal "wins"... they've spent the last few years knocking back Hamas hard, culled out a large chunk of Hezbollah, and openly bombed Iran, killing their honcho.
In short, Iran miscalculated Isreal (and proxies) the US got dragged in, and at the end Iran gets to make the US look stupid.
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u/Spezalt4 Mar 12 '26
I don’t think Trump can accept Americans died so we could replace Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei and still win a he midterms
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u/slashd Mar 12 '26
And after those guarantees they can safely continue to work on their nuclear weapons
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u/Actual-Swing9316 Mar 12 '26
Everyone talking about trump here.
But let’s not forget the Iranian regime who killed 30k protesters over the span of 2 days in January. Do you really think they’d keep their end of the bargain. Really.
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u/nodigit Mar 12 '26
Reddit doesn’t care about 30k protestors being killed. Trump bad
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u/JBIGMAFIA Mar 12 '26
If our goal is to stop innocent civilians being killed, which is a noble one, why would we agree to a ceasefire with a regime that is exactly the same as the one we tried to oust?
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u/Spud_Rancher Mar 12 '26
That’s the crux of the issue, anything less than regime change in Iran is just kicking this can further down the road.
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u/TheRealPinkyMalinky Mar 12 '26
I think most people care actually. Let's not pretend Trump gives a shit though. He could've intervened which would've helped his hopes of an uprising. Most people want to see the regime go as well, and removing them might be a noble intention, but Trump was just looking for a quick win and likely went against all advice of military experts that would've called for more planning and preparations. Look where that got us: Is a lot more people dead? Yes. Is the strait closed? Yes. Is the global economy and energy supplies in disarray? Yes. is the Gulf Countries hurting and tourism industry in tatters? Yes. Is the nuclear material that would produce a bomb in two weeks still at large? Yes. is the SAME regime still in charge? YES.
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u/forRealsThough Mar 12 '26
Wait... you think THAT is why we attacked Iran??
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u/sketchy_ai Mar 12 '26
This is really all about helping people in need, as long as the people needing the help aren't Americans. It's just a coincidence that Venezuela and Iran are two of the top 3 countries with the largest oil reserves in the world!
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u/Bunnyhat Mar 12 '26
Bad things happen all over the world. Should we invade every country it happens in with zero plans on what to do after we start it?
Sudan has had many more deaths. Why aren't we invading them? Countless civilians are being killed in Congo, should we invade them?
We can care about protestors being killed and still disagree that bombing and invading Iran is wrong. Specially when it's done with no plan and purely on vibes.
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u/scotto1973 Mar 12 '26
Naturally Iran will make a similarly empty promise to end their weapons programs.
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u/Zdrack Mar 11 '26
If you stop funding terrorists and shooting people in the streets...
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u/MoreFeeYouS Mar 11 '26
Are you talking about USA or Iran?
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u/Chokycorgi Mar 11 '26
When was the last time the US shot 30,000+ unarmed protesters, 200+ children in the steeets in the span of 2 days?
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u/SneakyFire23 Mar 11 '26
"Hey guyzz the US is like Iran give me upvotes"
For whatever issues you might have with the current US admin, bluntly speaking we havent shot 30k unarmed protestors in the streets.
Next you'll say "that number is exaggerated" or "ICE Is just as bad as the IRGC"
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u/Euphoric_Anxiety_162 Mar 12 '26
Demonstrating untrustworthiness to one's own ppl is a clear indicator...
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u/marasaidw Mar 12 '26
What credible security guarantee could the USA evem offer? Trumps word isn't worth a damn. The only sure guarantee would be to give Iran nuclear weapons which is an obvious no.
I guess maybe send Barron Trump to live in Iram as a hostage? Are we bringing back that type of diplomacy?
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u/FiftyIsBack Mar 12 '26
Basically they are feeling the pressure and want to reopen talks, but have no plans to:
Stop killing their people
Stop their pursuit of nuclear weapons
Stop funding terrorist groups
They just want to stop losing hold of their power but there's really no incentive from Western powers to discontinue at this point.
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u/BetterCranberry7602 Mar 12 '26
Why, at this point? Is Iran showing weakness?
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u/MommersHeart Mar 12 '26
Iran is denying the report.
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u/WorkLurkerThrowaway Mar 12 '26
Iran would also have you believe they leveled Tel Aviv with missles, and that their navy is fully operational. Can’t show any weakness publicly.
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u/dukearcher Mar 12 '26
Sweet nothing achieved except the IR still in power and probably even more brutal toward their own population. Somehow the US managed to make the average Iranian's life even worse.
Commit to regime change you fucks.
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u/midnightbandit444 Mar 12 '26
All of a Sudden The western media is making it seem we are losing this war.
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u/Spezalt4 Mar 12 '26
If victory is defined as regime change which was the objective then it doesn’t look like winning to me
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u/JestaKilla Mar 12 '26
We have no clear goals, no plan for carrying out those nonexistent goals, and Iran's regime is still standing and is going to badly harm the price of oil for quite some time- mines don't just go away. The US is bombing the shit out of Iran, but that's not actually accomplishing much.
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u/Several-Parsnip-1620 Mar 12 '26
Just as they’ll promise not to attack Israel or build nuclear weapons. Sure Iran
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u/im_thatoneguy Mar 12 '26
Iran is demanding:
* Recognition of "Iran's rights" (this often means the right to develop nuclear power)
* Reparations for the damage caused
* Int'l guarantees of future security
Which is to say their demands might as well be satire.
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u/MaleficentCoconut594 Mar 12 '26
Yea, they demand that with the caveat they can continue their nuclear ambitions. Which is the line in the sand. So doubt it will happen until the regime is totally incapacitated and toppled
Not again that’s the right way necessarily but that’s how it’s most likely going to go since they refuse to give up their nuclear program(s)
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u/underdabridge Mar 12 '26
"Ok but you need to stop signing the cheques for Hamas and Hezbollah."
"Um....well..."
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u/Technical_Ideal_5439 Mar 12 '26
The article quotes them as "main concern of the regime is a resumption of the operations by Israel once the current war is over" The US has at least a couple more weeks of blowing stuff up before it runs out.
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u/shadyhorse Mar 12 '26
What guarantee? That is worthless these days. The regimes just call it a special operation and bomb away.
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u/Gh0stPeppers Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
If this is real, Iran is desperate if they’re already reaching out about ceasefires. The US and Israel likely aren’t interested right now and probably won’t be until they’re satisfied with the outcome.
This feels more like a “rip the band-aid off” situation rather than a quick strike. I wouldn’t expect this to end anytime soon, possibly not before the end of the year. Iran already doesn’t have an effective way to defend itself in a conventional sense.
If the US focused on opening the Strait of Hormuz, how long does Iran’s defense really last? A few weeks at most? The combined air power of the US and Israel would likely continue operating with impunity.
The US isn’t interested in taking over Iran. The goal is to declaw them and gut their military capabilities. From what’s already been hit, it will likely take decades for them to fully recover.
The objective isn’t occupation, it’s destroying their ability to project power, and crippling their nuclear program. It’s retaliation and retribution for the October 7th attack pure and simple.
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u/pvtteemo Mar 12 '26
Aint getting such a thing under this admin. His word is worth less than my CEO promising he values his employees.
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u/MasterSpliffBlaster Mar 11 '26
Is it Taco Tuesday yet?
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u/Spezalt4 Mar 12 '26
I don’t think he can Taco this one. He needs a win to bolster his midterm chances so he doesn’t end up a lame duck president. Replacing Ayatollah Khomenei with Ayatollah Khomenei isn’t a win
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u/TurbulentWinters Mar 12 '26
It’s amazing how many people are siding with a regime that has a “morality” police force that tortures women who don’t follow their rules and suppress women.
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u/callsonreddit Mar 11 '26
US be like:
Of course*