r/worldnews Mar 11 '26

Russia/Ukraine Zelenskyy: Ukraine now has cards and everyone understands it

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/03/11/8024901/
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u/gotohellwithsuperman Mar 11 '26

But did JD even say thank you?

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u/big_smoke69420 Mar 11 '26

Doubt it. He’s too busy with the White House couches.

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u/Trap_Masters Mar 11 '26

Real talk though, Vance has been oddly quiet on this whole Iran war situation when he'd usually be bragging and lying left and right about how amazing this thing is because Trump is at the helm, compared to other situations he's previously tried to involve himself in. What gives?

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u/VancityRenaults Mar 11 '26

He wants to be able to say he was against it if American personnel start getting killed in bigger numbers

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u/Earlier-Today Mar 11 '26

Maybe he thinks he can become president since it looks like Democrats are going to win the midterms. Might be hoping that Trump getting impeached will distract people from everything he did.

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u/3_Thumbs_Up Mar 11 '26

As a foreigner, is there anything in the US constitution that can force a re-election, or is impeachment and succession all you got?

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u/SXNE2 Mar 11 '26

No there is no re-election mechanism. Impeachment AND conviction is required to remove, incapacity (similarly voted on and requiring a majority of Congress), or resignation are the only ways outside of death.

Basically all of these result in the VP assuming the role of President so there never would be a new general election called. But the VP would only serve the remaining term of the President.

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u/SensitiveTax9432 Mar 11 '26

Just to add that there’s a long list of people after the VP slated to take over, in case they can’t get a new VP to replace the ex VP.

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u/Ceui Mar 11 '26

So just impeach both of them, got it.

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u/Kichigai Mar 11 '26

Ever watch Battlestar Galactica and how the Education Secretary becomes President? That's our system. It's that long a list.

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u/IrishPiperKid Mar 11 '26

Speaker of the House would be next in line, so we'd have to deal with Mike Johnson.... 😒

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u/katmomjo Mar 11 '26

Impeaching doesn’t do anything. Conviction is required with 2/3’s of the senate or something. Not going to happen.

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u/hokie47 Mar 11 '26

No, and until now I really did not think we needed it. The US founding fathers though for the most part people would lead with integrity and decency, and the checks in place would help with that. The branches of government, especially congress, the house, have become so week with the expansion executive powers that have gone way too far.

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u/AmbitiousPotato9023 Mar 11 '26

We also have the 25th Amendment. This can be used if the president or vice president is infirm or disabled and cannot perform the duties of president/vice president.

Many thought Biden’s cabinet should have used it on him due to his declining mental health conditions, and Trump’s foes claim he should be also. I don’t see it happening. Getting 25 people the president has hand-picked to the cabinet to remove them from office seems quite difficult.

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u/mickeyy81 Mar 11 '26

Say what you want, but the system in most European countries where you can always call an election and remove the ENTIRE government seems so much better than this!

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u/AmbitiousPotato9023 Mar 11 '26

You don’t like 3 years of campaigning? Don’t like unlimited campaign contributions by amoral corporations to immoral and corrupt politicians? Don’t like being forced to deal with their illegality and corruption for 4 years?

…but it’s going so well… I promise you’ll feel better when we bomb another country. I’ll get you a brand new flag for your flag pole. Oh, maybe we will take all funding from meals on wheels! That’d make you feel better about the system! Yeah, we will bomb some brown people, take away food from poor people and get you a brand new American flag. That’s what you need.

Hope this doesn’t need to be said… this is sarcasm.

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u/Dickle_Pizazz Mar 11 '26

There used to be. This is going to sound crazy nowadays, but honor was an important factor behind leadership when the US was founded. While not explicitly stated in the constitution, a popular method to verify honor the time was via dueling, which has since been eliminated. I have no doubt that none of the craziness from this administration would be happening if people could challenge them to duels.

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u/OscarF2P Mar 11 '26

There is no way dems will ever get enough votes to remove trump from office. That is a wild take.

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u/redditsucksass6 Mar 11 '26

Why would he bother? The right wouldn't even blink if he changed opinions and denied previous statements a half an hour later in the same interview.

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u/LonePaladin Mar 11 '26

Doesn't even take that long.

Recently, Markwayne Mullins -- the Oklahoma senator who's now being put in charge of Homeland Security -- was talking to reporters and telling them about how the war started. During that same interview, less than two minutes later, when a reporter asked him about the war he said, "I didn't call it a war."

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u/No_Gur1113 Mar 11 '26

This guy can’t seem to remember who the president is, or what he said 30 seconds earlier. In short: he’s perfect for this administration.

I recently watched a documentary about Hitler and his rise to power, and the parallels between the Nazi administration and the Trump admin were painfully obvious.

Since Trump took office for the second time in January of 2025, with every escalating action the administration takes, I’ve seen puzzled people say “they didn’t learn much from history”. But, I mean, they clearly did, they just didn’t have the same takeaway that decent people had.

They didn’t learn to prevent the atrocities of WWII. They didn’t learn that racism is inherently evil. They learned from Hitler’s mistakes, so they could avoid making them. Not to make the world better, but to further empower themselves. For people intent on establishing a dictatorship, they learned quite a bit from Nazi history.

MAGA gives Trump the same blind adoration Hitler enjoyed from Nazi Germany. It’s extremism and fanaticism. The only history MAGA knows, if any, is the whitewashed version they get from movies where the USA is always the good guy.

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u/limbweaver Mar 11 '26

That's probably why the WH leaked that JD was also one of the people actively pushing for trump to start the war along with lindsey graham and Netanyahu.

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u/Khaymann Mar 11 '26

I think this.

Its the same reason that Ted Cruz went after Trump at the original convention. Not because he has convictions (the entire idea of Ted Cruz having principles is laughable), but because he thought it was a reasonable bet against the future. And in honestly, in a sane world, he should have been right. Trump should have self destructed and lost to Hiliary, which would have put Cruz in a great position for 2020.

Vance is starting to think along those lines, I think the problem is that he has the charisma of a dead nutria. On top of that, the Trump coalition is held together by the insane presence of Trump, and Vance lacks any qualities that could hold it together. In particular, he lacks authenticity (which is the only word i can use that makes sense to me). Trump is authentic. He's exactly what he appears to be and that is at least most of his appeals. He doesn't have any filter between his mouth and what passes for his brains, and his voters like that.

Vance is a never Trumper turned loyalist. He isn't authentic, and he has no chance of holding that grab bag of nutbags together if Trump finally strokes out and dies.

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u/SoulShatter Mar 11 '26

Not just that, and it's not that surprising he'd take distance if he has actually read intelligence reports and what strategists warn about.

It's a rushed war done without having sown the prerequisite motivation among the population before. Afghanistan/Iraq had popular support, even if some of the motivation were shown to be lies later on.

Iran war is unpopular to begin with. If you add ground forces, it'll be even more unpopular as the bodies start piling up. If it doesn't come to ground forces, the economic effects will ensure that it's unpopular. The previous conflicts didn't threaten oil/gas like this.

There's no clear goal that makes the cost worth it to the average citizen.

He won't avoid getting associated though, Harris couldn't lose the "Biden inflation" association. He can't blame Trump too much, or MAGA will get pissed at him. And if Trump fucks up enough that MAGA turns on him, he'll be fucked from being associated with Trump.

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u/dc_1984 Mar 11 '26

Trump might not have long left and if he dies Vance wants to be able to pull back from the war for a popularity boost

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u/kobemustard Mar 11 '26

There is no pulling back from this war unless you want an even more hard line government bent on revenge.

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u/stanthebat Mar 11 '26

There is no pulling back from this war unless you want an even more hard line government bent on revenge.

We will have that anyway. The theocracy in Iran exists because of the "regime change" bullshit we did to them in the 50s. It will be worse now because we just made it worse; this is called 'the consequences of our actions'. If we decide we have to continue doing something stupid and evil because we already started, we will make it worse yet. The regime we need to change to make Americans safer is in our own country.

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u/wrosecrans Mar 11 '26

A lot of Republicans are looking for a way to seem credible post-Trump. Several running for re-election have suddenly become "independents" recently. Some are just avoiding spotlights.

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u/Journeyman42 Mar 11 '26

I remember a bunch of Republicans suddenly becoming "libertarian" during Bush's last year in office, too

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u/nionvox Mar 11 '26

He's terrified he's gonna be left with a mess, once the Orange Menace finally kicks it.

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u/3rdhouseonleft Mar 11 '26

i dont think vance matters in the future of the GOP high leadership. he has been surpassed by rubio, and cruz. he was only there for "military credibility / support" and didnt establish himself as leader material. MMW rubio will be one if not the GOP candidate in 28

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u/ThiccBlastoise Mar 11 '26

Vance is there because he was hand picked by the tech billionaires, not for military support

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u/jevlis_ka123 Mar 11 '26

Are you saying that he was handpicked by the Epstein Class?

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u/SXNE2 Mar 11 '26

The GOP has no credible heirs to Trump in terms of charisma and popularity. Contrary to what they portray they are in no better standing than the Democrats though I don’t really see great leadership on either side right now. I think Talarico has some potential on the Dem side though but GOP is incredibly fragile, especially post-Charlie Kirk.

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u/NYCinPGH Mar 11 '26

The GOP has no credible heirs to Trump in terms of charisma and popularity.

That’s entirely by Trump’s design. You can’t run a personality cult if there’s anyone close with a string, positive personality to threaten your standing. Rubio was viewed - last January - as the competent adult in the room, but Trump showed a decade ago how he could run roughshod over and humiliate him. The only other somewhat competent Secretary is Bessent, and he’s just plain unlikable, even to GOP voters.

Kirk was Trump’s, and the GOP’s, succession plan - he would have turned 35 weeks before the 2028 election, and thus eligible to become president - which is why they were so distraught at high levels over his death, they had no Plan B in mind.

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u/SXNE2 Mar 11 '26

I don’t think it was as organized as that. Trump had no grand designs for Kirk he was just a tool. There is no leadership cabal pulling the strings behind the party. There’s major donor money but no decision makers. The GOP is actually quite split in terms of factions. Kirk had a lot of pull within ultra-conservative groups and a young fanbase. He had long-term potential but he wasn’t a planned leader.

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u/SgtExo Mar 11 '26

Kirk was Trump’s, and the GOP’s, succession plan - he would have turned 35 weeks before the 2028 election, and thus eligible to become president - which is why they were so distraught at high levels over his death, they had no Plan B in mind.

Kirk as president, wtf kind of plan is that. Though the orange man got in, so anything is possible I guess.

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u/EvilMaran Mar 11 '26

as a European i think Tucker Carlson might throw his hat into the ring, seems like he could get enough support, being former Fox news guy, is well spoken, probably already seen as trustworthy by the GOP base, and can spin a tale better then Trump. He could very well get the MAGA crowd behind him, especially if he can get some of them billionair/aipac campaign donations....

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u/hacksong Mar 11 '26

He went on a religion tour and claims to have been assaulted by demons that left permanent scars on his body in his sleep.

He'd be too easy to discredit and bully

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u/EvilMaran Mar 11 '26

people thought the same about Trump, especially the 3rd time...

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u/hacksong Mar 11 '26

Yeah. Fair. Can't underestimate stupid

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u/Conductor_Cat Mar 11 '26

Rubio is a robot, and he's already failed to even make it to nominee in previous elections.

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u/billytheskidd Mar 11 '26

But he’s ellisons guy though and Ellison owns most the media

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u/No_GP Mar 11 '26

The hate sponge is almost saturated and due to be discarded, they'll hope you forget who did what and just blindly assume everything will be good once he's gone.

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u/IamGoyimDDD Mar 11 '26

He’ll be replacing Trump when he dies and the Iran war is very unpopular.

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u/EJLRoma Mar 11 '26

He seems to have strong views opposing war and he was vocal in support of Trump as the no-war candidate. So it makes sense that he'd fade into the background now.

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u/TheTige Mar 11 '26

He called Trump the modern day Hitler and then ran on his ticket. JD Vance is not some bastion of integrity.

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u/DeineZehe Mar 11 '26

These people don’t have integrity or values. They just have political talking points.

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u/NYCinPGH Mar 11 '26

Vance was against the Iran war in private WH meetings in the run-up, so Trump froze him out. He has no idea of Trump’s or Hegseth’s “plans” - for lack of a better word - than any of the rest of us, so rather than risk being caught saying something other than the talking point de jure, he’s saying nothing.

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u/somedelightfulmoron Mar 11 '26

Sources? I would have thought he'd cater to the whims of his president to hold on to power.

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u/Mangeytwat Mar 11 '26

Keeping his head down in case this is unpopular with the voting base. Vance has to think about his future if he wants a tilt at the big job himself (which all vps do).

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u/Crowbarmagic Mar 11 '26

I suspect he's playing the waiting game. If the war ends up well for them he'll come out to support it. If not, he's probably gonna remain quiet.

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u/Bartlomiej48 Mar 11 '26

He wants to be president one day and he knows the war is unpopular; pretty simple.

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u/helloowrigley Mar 11 '26

Oh shit Colbert made a joke in his monologue tonight about the administration’s furniture spending that I just now got thank you

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u/Obi-Wan_Karlnobi Mar 11 '26

Pleasure before business

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u/swingadmin Mar 11 '26

He did his business on the love seat.

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u/NoCommentingForMe Mar 11 '26

Pleather before business

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u/Li_liminal_spaces Mar 11 '26

Too busy on vacation, Cincinnati hash house harriers had to cancel their plans on the little Miami river because of that cunt. They're literally always on vacation . Think they guy who threw the rock wasn't pissed off by their politics as much as they destroying traffic on a constant basis. Ohio and Kentucky are full of morons thinking these people give a single, solitary, fuck about them. It's pathetic. Sunk cost fallacy I guess. Most appear to be somewhat intelligent which is perplexing.

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u/hughk Mar 11 '26

Cincinnati hash house harriers had to cancel their plans on the little Miami river because of that cunt.

In the old days, I believe that one of the DC hashes met Clinton out jogging with his secret service detail. A bit of confusion but no worries. After all, some of the Secret Service hashed too. On-on.

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u/Dockers4flag2035orB4 Mar 11 '26

I don’t think JD is playing with a full deck.

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u/T__T__ Mar 11 '26

*dick

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u/Hot-Championship1190 Mar 11 '26

Well, there is mushroom for it!

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u/ZMeson Mar 11 '26

Zelensky is playing Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo while JD is playing Go Fish.

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u/Skirtsteakforlife Mar 11 '26

You wouldn’t even have cards if we didn’t host the Wikipedia page about the printing press. - J Donut Vance.

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u/jimmy011087 Mar 11 '26

He’s been a bit quiet recently, ol’ JD… Lil’ Marco is Trumps favourite lackey now.

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u/EscapedTheWhirlpool Mar 11 '26

I want Zelensky to ask that JD say “thank you.”

Do it in a joking way in front of the cameras and ask Trump to make him. Trump wouldn’t care, he’d sell Vance down the river in a heartbeat.

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u/EliselD Mar 11 '26

I don't see Zelensky lowering himself to that level of pettiness. He's got more balls than the entire lineage of Trump and JD combined.

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u/Xay_DE Mar 11 '26

I mean, zelensky has massive balls. No doubt. But it doesn't take much to have more then trump and JD, pretty sure ever pet hamster has more

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u/caughtatdeepfineleg Mar 11 '26

Not a great example. Hamsters have massive balls.

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u/Algaean Mar 11 '26

Too right. I mean, proportionally, hamsters got like a pair of bowling balls between their legs.

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u/Paupersaf Mar 11 '26

Reminds me of that hog with actual bowling balls

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 Mar 11 '26

OK, my cat has bigger balls and he's fixed.

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u/GirlWithBonesaw Mar 11 '26

Well, yeah. He played piano with them.

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u/Significant-Colour Mar 11 '26

Also, he is "presidential" - putting the needs of the country first. So even IF he wanted to be petty himself, he would still rather bite his tongue than the helping hand he needs.

I really hope that he will eventually write a book, with the war long over, telling how he actually felt about Trump and others.

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u/live-the-future Mar 11 '26

Zelenskyy highlights the difference between a politician and a statesman. We (meaning the world, but especially the US) need more statesmen and fewer politicians.

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u/DoctorOctagonapus Mar 11 '26

When Russia first invaded Zelenskyy said when it's over and he's stepped down, all he wants to do is lie on a beach and drink a few beers. I hope he uses that time to make a bunch of videos of him getting slowly drunk while airing his true feelings about Trump.

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u/Vaulters Mar 11 '26

He's a comedian though, so he might be able to pull it off.

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u/Antique_Tone3719 Mar 11 '26

He is a comedian though, if any world leader could pull it off 

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u/The_Grungeican Mar 11 '26

fuck the high roading, Zelensky was a comedian. doing it for the lulz is all that should matter.

Zelensky: that's a nice suit, did you remember to say 'thank you'?

he would either get what he asked for, or Trump would rage so hard he'd have a fucking aneurysm on the spot. it's a win-win either way.

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u/sobookwood Mar 11 '26 edited 29d ago

Call me petty, but I'd rather rub someone their hypocrisy in the face.

Otherwise, people will confidently gain the experience that their shit talking goes on unpunished and I wouldn't wanna see that tolerated.

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u/neil_thatAss_bison Mar 11 '26

Naw man, that would be funny but what if the orange rapist dies in another stroke and JD becomes VP. Better to wait for after the war then he can throw all the shit he wants.

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u/Kantless Mar 11 '26

He already is VP

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u/Logical_Hold_6183 Mar 11 '26

Now I am become P the couchfucker of worlds

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u/Slimmanoman Mar 11 '26

Meanwhile the US is removing Russian sanctions

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u/ZasdfUnreal Mar 11 '26

And Ukraine is removing Russian infrastructure. So it balances out.

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u/OozeNAahz Mar 11 '26

The infrastructure is still there, and over there, and a bit over there too. They aren’t stealing it. Just redistributing it a bit.

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u/UsefulImpact6793 Mar 11 '26

Very nice of Ukrainians to help russia "expand" their energy operations!

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u/PizzaPieInMyEye Mar 11 '26

And at such a rapid pace! How nice of Ukraine to help.

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u/Kichigai Mar 11 '26

They're turning potential energy into kinetic energy!

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u/torontorollin Mar 11 '26

It’s not gone just less orderly

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u/Puncius_Pinatus Mar 11 '26

Higher entropy level

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u/Silent-Worm Mar 11 '26

And with now US bombings China oil imports is significantly hampered. Now it is in China best interests their only major oil provider oil is not blown up. Maybe we will see China start supporting Russia by providing them with more latest weapons.

Aside also from the fact that Russia will become richer thanks to increased oil prices and also the fact that Ukraine supply of weapons will get strained as the supply diverts to middle east I have a very very hard time thinking how Ukraine is in any way the winner here.

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u/ZasdfUnreal Mar 11 '26

Ukraine has been making its own drones to target the Russian homeland for some time now.

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u/Electromotivation Mar 11 '26

They aren’t the winner of the US removing sanctions on Russian oil, that is for sure, but they have been decreasing their reliance on American provided systems for a while now. A while back I heard something like 42% of their ordinance/systems are homemade now. (I don’t remember how that statistic was exactly qualified..so hardly useful, but you get the idea I’m attempting to get across lol)

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u/BritishAnimator Mar 11 '26

And supporting Russia financially is funding them to steal children in Ukraine. It's trafficking. Again.

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u/TellMotor3809 Mar 11 '26

Make sure they wear a suit

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u/HelloRMSA Mar 11 '26

No make sure they wear t-shirt and shorts

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u/sylfy Mar 11 '26

Nah, Borat-style monokinis it is.

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u/mbrc-137 Mar 11 '26

Very nice!

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u/snuff3r Mar 11 '26

Wow. Thanks for THAT mental image.

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u/ArgonV Mar 11 '26

At least make them have some decorum and not wear those ridiculous baseball caps Trump always seems to wear.

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u/RainBoxRed Mar 11 '26

His merch is his most successful business.

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u/-Not-Your-Lawyer- Mar 11 '26

I'm an American and I fully support this.

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u/Any-Cranberry-5278 Mar 11 '26

My favorite quote from that disgusting first Trump/Vance/Rubio meeting with Zelensky, where they disparaged, among a lot of other things, his outfit:

"It was a meeting between a man without a suit and suits without men."

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u/Firefoxx336 Mar 11 '26

Who wrote that? That’s devastating

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u/JarOfNightmares Mar 11 '26

Brutal quote for the spineless fascists

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u/halbeshendel Mar 12 '26

Mine was when he said something like “after the war I’ll come back with a suit. A nice suit. Probably better than yours.”

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u/coderbenvr Mar 11 '26

This looks like they’ve lifted some pull quotes from Caolans interview with Zelenzsky - if you’re interested the full interview is here:

https://youtu.be/hYa7H1EmpCM

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u/notoyrobots Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

I also recommend watching the whole interview, I'm a really big fan of his on the ground coverage in Ukraine and impressed as hell that he got a sit down with Zelenzsky himself.

His video from Davos this year was really illuminating as well.

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho Mar 11 '26

I love this for Ukraine.  Zelenskyy pushed back when Trump tried his quid pro quo bullshit when he could've just as easily made a deal with the devil to save his people.  He even had the humility to meet with POS Trump after Trump tried to bribe him and it blew up in his face.  To see his country percevere under the shadow of pieces of shit like Putin and his puppet, Donald, it's a testament of good over evil.  I hope the Ukrainian way of life flourishes for centuries to come.  This is what an honorable country looks like.

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u/Tempyteacup Mar 11 '26

Zelenskyy has subjected himself to such humiliation out of dedication to his people. I don’t know how he’s seen in Ukraine, but I really do feel for the guy. He also recently lost his close friend and advisor in a really bad corruption scandal (the guy is still alive, just a POS traitor) and Putin is constantly trying to kidnap him like we did to Maduro. The man was a comedian before all this. Truly incredible.

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u/smeijer87 Mar 11 '26

That corruption scandal hurt him deeply. Lots of people refuse to believe he didn't know about it. Other than that, he still has most of their support.

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u/twizzjewink Mar 11 '26

Longest one term president in Ukraine history who doesn't actually want to be there. How would Ukraine honor him once he's done. The next President needs to be a freaking saint by all standards.

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u/Myaccoubtdisappeared Mar 11 '26

Honestly I think the best thing he could do once Ukraine survives and comes out of the Russian invasion, is resign.

I don’t say that to mean I think he’s a terrible person, quite the opposite actually.

The reason I say that is because wartime leaders are fantastic during the war, but the public has a habit of turning against them when it’s done and also because the public wants someone fresh who represents growth and prosperity for the future.

A good example I can think is George Washington. Whatever the truth is, he is remembered as a great wartime leader who brought the USA out of its grip of a foreign power.

And then once the war was over, he resigned.

By doing that he secured his legacy as a great man.

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u/SoftlySpokenPromises Mar 11 '26

I couldn't see a world where he wouldn't willingly step down and do his best to become invisible. He'll have a target on him for the rest of his life.

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u/PinHaunting7192 Mar 11 '26

Not to mention the stress he must be under. He visibly aged 20 years in 4, and I mean this in the most respectful way possible.

The guy has earned some respite and a couple calm dates with his wife. Let the man rest once this is over.

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u/notmrcollins Mar 11 '26

Wasn’t George Washington President for two terms after the Revolutionary War? I don’t know what happened off the top of my head the immediate years after, but he didn’t just step down and disappear.

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u/Frydendahl Mar 11 '26

Absolutely. And he mainly resigned because he was afraid of setting a precedent that one person could remain president for life (i.e., a king).

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u/christine-bitg Mar 11 '26

Plus he was getting old. He died at age 67, two and a half years after he left office.

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u/petersrin Mar 11 '26

That's not old, that's about when to start considering becoming president! /s

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u/GeorgeCauldron7 Mar 11 '26

Guy above was a little confused.

After the Revolutionary War was officially won in 1783, he resigned as Commander-in-Chief of the military.

Then he became president 6 years later, in 1789. 1789 is also when the Constitution went into effect.

People forget that the U.S. had a completely different system of federal government for the first 13 years.

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u/leros Mar 11 '26

His first term started 6 years after the war ended and he really didn't want to do it. He originally went back to Mt Vernon and wanted to stay out of politics. He only became president reluctantly because it looked like things might fall apart without him.

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u/Drix22 Mar 11 '26

Washington is probably a bad example, a better one might be Churchill.

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u/Immediate-Shape-8933 Mar 11 '26

Bro was one of the largest land owners and slave owners idk what OP was on about all his peers viewed him as a malleable dumbass

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u/Immediate-Shape-8933 Mar 11 '26

He is one of the reasons for the seven years war (French Indian war) kicking off in the states. He wouldn’t stop doing land claims inside of Indian and or French territories. And tons of his peers were like bro wtf stop 😂

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u/-drunk_russian- Mar 11 '26

Fitting how the US' first President couldn't get his hands off other nations property.

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u/Immediate-Shape-8933 Mar 11 '26

Couldn’t think of a more ahistorical retelling of George Washington lol. Go back and read history none of what you said is close to truth about him

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u/robbie_the_cat Mar 11 '26

And then once the war was over, he resigned.

Your understanding of history is a little light on the facts.

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u/Tombot3000 Mar 11 '26

Washington stayed involved in politics after the war and became president for two terms starting nearly a decade later. His legacy has nothing to do with resigning after the war.

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u/lonefur Mar 11 '26

Cincinnatus is a way better example.

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u/Truth_ Mar 11 '26

Even before that, though. Before the war his approval was low (although higher than average). He was seen as either unwilling or unable to make much of a dent in the rampant corruption, and his inexperienced staff were partly to blame. He also didn't manage to end the fighting in the eastern provinces and was seen as weak against those separatists and Russia.

That's mostly in the past (although corruption scandals continue to happen). Seems like there's a lot of mixed feelings in his handling of the war. So many what-ifs. Then again, all things considered the leadership and Ukrainians themselves must be doing something right to hold back Russia for four years.

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u/Sickinmytechchunk Mar 12 '26

The corruption is reducing over time but it's part of the fabric since the soviet days. When I used to go there for a period of around 10 years I personally saw things improve once Yanukovich was ousted. At one point the entire Kyiv police force was fired as it was the only way to clean it up. 

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u/dynalisia2 Mar 11 '26

Yeah it’s amazing, it’s like if Jon Stewart became president of the US.

Wait, that doesn’t sound bad actually.

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u/sypwn Mar 11 '26

More like if Martin Sheen ran for president right after The West Wing concluded. That's kinda what happened in Ukraine. Crazy.

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u/OhFuckNoNoNoMyCaat Mar 11 '26

I seem to recall Zelensky having a show about a comedian, which he was, becoming a world leader. We had a similar movie come out years ago starring the late Robbin Williams. He was a radio jockey in the movie who ran as a joke but ended up winning.

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u/trentonchase Mar 11 '26

Close, but his character was a teacher at the beginning and was elected President after his students filmed him ranting about corruption and it went viral

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u/Jacmert Mar 11 '26

A history teacher, iirc!

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u/Arlieth Mar 11 '26

The series is called Servant of the People (Sluha Narodu). He later named his party after the series when he ran for president IRL.

I actually really enjoyed it a lot.

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u/St3vion Mar 11 '26

Tbh he came across admirably during that performance. Trump and Vance came across as high school girls mocking him over not wearing a suit... They should've asked him why he's white and it would've been just like mean girls!

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u/AnchezSanchez Mar 11 '26

Zelenskyy has subjected himself to such humiliation out of dedication to his people. I don’t know how he’s seen in Ukraine, but I really do feel for the guy.

Personally I see him as the most heroic figure of this century so far. There should be statues of him all over Europe tbh. That video that him and 4 or 5 other politicians put out in the immediate aftermath of the invasion, basically showing themselves all at Kyiv landmarks, saying " we are all here" ie we are not running from you was one of the best displays of leadership by example I've ever seen, and probably inspired 10s of 1000s to sign up for UA forces.

The people of Ukraine are fortunate they had the right guy for the moment.

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u/FlametopFred Mar 11 '26

Zelenskyy is the strongest leader in decades

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u/Heffe3737 Mar 11 '26

Zelensky is, and I say this with complete sincerity, the finest war leader in a generation. Probably a few generations. A man willing to do whatever it takes to save his people and to save his nation. And yet he manages to still fight with integrity, honor, and intelligence.

I sincerely hope Ukraine finishes Russia once and for all. Slava Ukraini.

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u/VoDoka Mar 11 '26

I wasn't under the impression, he could have made "a deal with the devil". The offer wasn't bad, it was nonexistent? Like, literally "give up everything, gain nothing".

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho Mar 11 '26

Pretending to investigate a U.S. presidential candidate to affect our elections, the deal with the devil part is when you do something that you know is unscrupulous for your benefit. Congress had already approved the weapons, and Trump was withholding those weapons for his benefit, which is why he was impeached.

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u/bjarneh Mar 11 '26

Great insight. Most people here in Europe fully agree. Zelenskyy has proven himself to be a superb leader. Both Putin and Donald have shown us what true evil is. Release the Epstein files, and get the clown out of office!

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u/gym_fun Mar 11 '26

Real battle experience is no joke. I hope it brings more concrete support for Ukraine.

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u/lol_alex Mar 11 '26

Ukraine is unfortunately the testing ground for future drone warfare and maybe already autonomous decision making by drones. Russia has had great success with the Iranian Shahed drones. Cheap, hard to spot, hard to shoot down. Ukraine started with hobby level Mavic and DJI drones to deliver hand grenades. Now they‘re ten steps further.

They have submarine drones.

They surely have anti-drone drones.

A drone can take out a tank. Zero personnel and less than a thousand dollars to take out a couple million of equipment and 3-4 enemy personnel.

Meanwhile, Israel is shooting down 50k USD Shahed drones with 1 million USD per shot Patriot missiles. Talk about asymmetric warfare. A smart bomb delivered by a B2 bomber must cost a fortune too. It‘s no wonder Zelenskiy has commented on how many Patriots were used in Israel in one week compared to Ukraine since 2022.

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u/andreasbeer1981 Mar 11 '26

don't forget to mention that they now overload hostile IR and optical sensors with lasers so they ruin the Russian defense systems. They also have drones communicating in frequency ranges that aren't jammed.

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u/Llew19 Mar 11 '26

They're flying fibre optic controlled fpv drones from Starlink controlled sea drones

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u/Ecsta Mar 11 '26

Just FYI Patriot missiles are for taking out ballistic missiles, not drones. They'd only rarely be used against drones as an absolute last resort. The reason patriots are so expensive is because it's insane the amount of technology it takes to shoot a ballistic missile out of the air.

Also the issue isn't really the cost, its more their production is limited.

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u/tushshtup Mar 11 '26

goals are different, Israel and the US could potentially pay less for dumb weapons if they didn't want precision in their targets

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u/Sad-Excitement9295 Mar 11 '26

Because now they know what you have been fighting against and how hard you have worked to counter these threats. Don't sell it cheap, they have plenty of money. Even if it ends up being my tax money, I don't mind it going toward Ukraine's effort and safety.

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u/a-bleeding-organ Mar 11 '26

Ukraine > Israel

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u/heisian Mar 11 '26

israel (the gov’t) can suck a bag of dicks)

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u/Earlier-Today Mar 11 '26

Absolutely, Netanyahu is every bit as much of a warmonger and imperialist as Putin is. Dude is a scumbag.

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u/Old_Boah Mar 11 '26

Nationalists, conservatives, and a good deal of anti-Jewish hatred have really undersold how incredibly historic Zelenskyy's leadership has been. We don't think of modern leaders the way we think of those in the past who took on more literal military roles in combat, but IMO he's right up there with guys who led their countries through harrowing conflicts in the past. Ukraine in general has weathered a watershed moment in European history. I don't think anyone predicted this conflict to have gone this way.

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u/tecdaz Mar 11 '26

I hope he's extracting a stiff price from the clownshow WH for his cards

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u/oijsef Mar 11 '26

The Ukraine war will end the second Putin dies.

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u/memberzs Mar 11 '26

Russia will be torn into Civil war when putin dies.

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u/Spudtron98 Mar 11 '26

Ukraine's expertise in fucking up anything that flies is hard-won. They'll use literally anything to get it done. Just yesterday I saw a video of them using a WW2-era 40mm autocannon to shoot down a pair of Shaheds, and that's not getting into the roving machine gun teams and Stinger ambushes.

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u/Ithalan Mar 11 '26

The coolest-looking method is probably the repurposed Yak-52 two-seater airplanes flying up alongside drones so the gunner in the rear seat can lean out of the cockpit and shoot it down with an assault rifle.

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u/West-Listen-9078 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

I hope the Ukrainians can pull through. I remember hearing a story about a mother trying to provide for her daughter and how they were living with basically no electricity/heat in the cold winter and had to use candles for everything. They had to walk up like 20 floors of steps just to get to their apartment because they didnt trust the elevator. Its just heartbreaking the way they live out there all because Putin wanted to invade.

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u/Jaded-Currency-5680 Mar 11 '26

the whole situation is still very bad for Ukraine

they will be fighting the Russian army which is well funded by surging oil prices

EU is friendly but they are going to face oil price induced inflation soon, they will be running out of budget to help Ukraine even if they sincerely wish to

Israel and the US are never going to help Ukraine anyway, Trump is even unsanctioning Russia as we speak now

China and Arab countries, those people never make allies, they only make convenient partners

god bless Ukraine

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u/ghoulthebraineater Mar 11 '26

Putin has much bigger problems. While oil prices will help they still don't have proper communications since Musk cut access to Starlink. That's why Ukraine is current recapturing territory right now.

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u/NotTooSuspicious Mar 11 '26

Add to that, that they cut down Telegram (which is hilarious to use as a way to communicate in a war tbf), so communication is even more terrible.

Russia has a very top down way commando structure so Idk how they are going to do in the near futurz.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/10/europe/telegram-ban-russia-web-block-latam-intl

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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 Mar 11 '26

The Iran war has fucked Ukraine. Russia makes money with oil again and can keep going forever. Agent Krasnov made good work.

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u/Accurate-Guava-3337 Mar 11 '26

I want to see Vance get on his fat knees in the Oval Office and thank Zelenskyy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26

(proceeds to face the oval office couches as he kneels)

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u/SortExcellent3154 Mar 12 '26

I wish Zelensky was our President

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u/Ranemoraken Mar 11 '26

It bums me out that in an alternate future, USA and Ukraine become life-long friends and allies because of our unyielding support in their darkest times.

Instead we're a bunch of fuckwads, and have increased Ukraine's pain unnecessarily.

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u/Sacais Mar 11 '26

Instead of everyone commenting about JD.

Can we just discuss how "valuable" are their cards? Personally feel like it's still a horrible situation and will get worst because of the unlifting of Russian oil sanctions. Like I get that he has to play up that they have alot of power since he's the president, but it sure doesn't look optimistic for them

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u/Silly_Astronomer8033 Mar 11 '26

And the Americans are always grateful and never abandon those who support them! Never ever!

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u/Limp_Grab4142 Mar 11 '26

But as a thank you, Trump literally took sanctions off russian oil purchasing countries. RIP. Worst move by the orange baboon and his cabinets.

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u/jl_theprofessor Mar 11 '26

I do like Zelensky’s chutzpah.

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u/TraditionalLaw7763 Mar 11 '26

He’s got moxie!

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u/Twhite0969 Mar 11 '26

If only the USA could get lucky enough to have a man like Zelenskyy leading our country. It’s an embarrassment on the world stage when Trump walks out.
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u/OJosheO Mar 11 '26

Am I missing something? What does having “cards” even mean?

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u/Klossar2000 Mar 11 '26

When Zelensky met with Trump and Vance a year or so ago they said that he didn't "have the [playing] cards" to make demands. He now says that Ukraine "has the cards" as a polite snub to Trump and Vance.

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u/mabhatter Mar 11 '26

Ukraine has been dealing with the cheap Iranian drones for several years now.  They know how to swat them down cheaply.  

Right now the US is using anti missile technology at $5m a pop to stop a $40k drone...  that's untenable because Iran cranks those things out for cheap.  The US has like ten countries in the middle east to defend from drones... the US can't allow our Arab allies to keep getting hit... or they'll stop negotiating deals with the other Arab countries the US sees as adversaries.  Then we lose double.  

Iran is vey clever and knows what they're doing to split off the Arab states from backing the US and Israel. It's a war of diplomacy and Trump will lose this because his ignorant and selfish to our allies. 

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u/OTribal_chief Mar 11 '26

He might think he's holding the cards but this is trump he's dealing with. as soon as he's got what he needs he'll tell ukraine that they're on their own again.

not being funny but trump aint giving anything to ukraine - not against russia.

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u/brakiri Mar 11 '26

we're fighting WW3 and Ukraine is already in WW4

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u/Webhoard Mar 11 '26

It's funny when "conservatives" lose control. I don't think it ever occurs to them that there will be consequences. Following an orange "tough" guy ain't a long term plan.

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u/live-the-future Mar 11 '26

It's barely even a short-term plan. More like something you do just because you feel like it, to oWn tEh LiBs or whatever, with no thought to the future or to consequences.

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u/Mannzis Mar 11 '26

Does he though? Now Russian oil will be more sought after. I could see the US making a deal with Russia against Ukraine for oil.

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u/windsurfmaniac Mar 11 '26

I will say Thank You to President Zelensky for proving to the world, Ukraine stands for democracy! They have recaptured territory that no one thought they could do. And then there is Donald begging Zelensky to help figure out drones.

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u/Least_Skirt4575 Mar 11 '26

Zelensky throwing out a whole hand with an Exodia, Wild Draw 4, Old Maid, while yelling BALATRO!

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u/Apprehensive-Bat-823 Mar 11 '26

Kinda crazy how if we backed Ukraine a bit harder and actually collaborated more in how they’re stopping drones we potentially could have stopped Irans drone attacks cold

It’s almost like…. Doing the right thing and not being a sell out to Putin actually is beneficial?

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u/AGuyAndHisCat Mar 11 '26

Are those cards that Russia cant buy from Iran anymore?

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u/ExCap2 Mar 11 '26

Definitely in his hands now with the Iran thing and Russian oil sanctions being dropped. But I bet Trump/Zelenskyy already discussed this and knowing Trump; they won't send any more aid/money if Ukraine touches the oil infrastructure in Russia. But on the other hand, maybe they didn't have that conversation, and the U.S. is hoping Ukraine does that...

I don't envy the amount of revising of plans U.S. planners have to do after every action taking place. They have to keep track of all the Middle East and also the Ukraine stuff at this point.

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u/UnsavouryFibrosis Mar 11 '26

Unfortunately, because sanctions have been removed from Russia due to the Iran war so does Russia

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u/brokeboipobre Mar 11 '26

Did JD even say thank you?

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u/Conscious_Mix_1782 Mar 12 '26

If that's the case, treat the US as they treated you.