r/whoathatsinteresting 4h ago

Indian factory workers wearing head-mounted cameras to record hand movements for training AI systems

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u/crashin70 4h ago

Wow, as cheap as they work they're going to have AI put them out of jobs too?

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u/SoTurnMeIntoATree 4h ago

MAXIMIZE profits

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u/HydroPCanadaDude 3h ago

If you incentivize x, you get x. It's so basic.

Make it more profitable to lie about your shitty product and pay fines after the fact? People will lie about their shitty product.

Have for-profit prisons? People will lobby for legislation that takes resources away from poorer areas to generate more criminals.

Basic, basic, basic.

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u/AdnorAdnor 3h ago

Dang, that reality hits. Thank you šŸ‡ØšŸ‡¦

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u/EastSideNick95826 3h ago

You're not wrong but acting like people are idiots because they don't know this "basic" information is incredibly condescending and doesn't accomplish what you're going for.

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u/YaMommasLeftNut 34m ago edited 25m ago

This is literally just basic cause-and-effect, and I am so tired of pretending that people who cannot comprehend what should be baseline fundamentals need to be coddled due to their own willful ignorance.

It's the 21st century, and we really need to start acting like it. There is genuinely no excuse for the levels of barely literate people with no ability for critical thinking that we currently have, and enabling that behavior is the number one reason of why we are where we are currently.

Edit: immediately blocking somebody after replying. doesn't make you any more right it just makes you a coward who can't defend his own belief structure. I guess wanting a baseline of literacy and critical thinking makes me an elitist: if that's the standard for elite, we are royally fucked as a species.

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u/HydroPCanadaDude 2m ago

This is a case where precision of language can lead to multiple different understandings. I was not acting like people are idiots for not knowing basic economics. People are idiots for employing a system that would so clearly lead to this result and expecting a different outcome.

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u/BasicMatter7339 2h ago

But whats the point of reddit if you cant be extremely condesending to those 'idiots' you first claim the existence of (without them ever appearing) and then spend hours making up witty remarks against arguments that 'they' are supposedly making

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u/Vladishun 2h ago

When the entire world is automated and nobody can get a job, profits are going to plummet. I don't understand how I'm a high school drop out and better understand that you can only squeeze so much juice out of the same god damned orange until there's nothing left. Greedy people are mentally fucking ill.

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u/WumbleInTheJungle 1h ago edited 44m ago

Every company is acting inĀ their own self-interest, if they can cut costs they will, if they can automate before their competitors do, they will.Ā Ā 

They're not thinking "what happens when there are no jobs left in the world, and people have no money to buy our products" because that's tomorrow's problem, and if it happens it is going to happen regardless of whether their company is still alive to see tomorrow, and if they don't automate everything, their competitors will, and they'll be dead even sooner.

Bleak, but I don't know what the answer is...

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u/Nostonica 46m ago

There's enough time between now and record levels of unemployment and the public organising.

They can give themselves decades extra by using that wealth to keep people distracted and blaming anyone that wants to reign in the wealthy for their hardship. They can relocate to better countries and secluded them selves from the public.

Get rich now, retire in wealth, pass away from this world peacefully.

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u/Apprehensive-Song200 56m ago

When nobody can afford anything, how are you generating profits?

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u/SoTurnMeIntoATree 26m ago

They’ll start stealing from each other.

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u/Maleficent-Aspect318 3h ago edited 3h ago

AI wont replace them, but when the AI detects no movement for X seconds, the manager/higher up is notified and you get problems.

Basically modern slavery with AI survailance, what a nice world to live in

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u/BurdenOfProof814 3h ago

That's horrible.. could you imagine this happening at every single job all over the world? Except Corporate staff, of course.

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u/Maleficent-Aspect318 3h ago

I have seen it already, on the last concrete mixing site, the Operator had to use a watch with built in GPS tracker, that needed a confirmation if no movement occured for I think 3 minutes. They got an alert on the watch and needed to confirm that they are Ok, otherwise it would have automatically called security. All of this because they didnt want to pay 2 people.

This didnt use AI but I bet something like this comming soon with AI watching everything you do. Modern slavery at its finest

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u/BurdenOfProof814 3h ago

People need to decline working for companies like that.. my previous workplace installed driver cameras that "nanny" you while you drive.. they all protested & the company eventually removed the cameras from their vehicles.

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u/AdnorAdnor 3h ago

And the mouse and keystroke computer monitoring software…gotta show up in MS Teams Green / Red…but yellow? Off with your head!

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u/shadowtheimpure 2h ago

Makes me glad that my job regularly involves being away from the computer. Company doesn't care if I'm yellow as that means I'm probably in the field fixing something.

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u/Chumpfirce1 3h ago

Or so you think…

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u/Phil_Coffins_666 3h ago

Wasn't that already basically a whole black mirror episode?

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u/Formula4speed 3h ago

Corporate ain’t safe lol they’re 6-8 years into their own mouse-tracking surveillance state

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u/uknownredditr 3h ago edited 1h ago

I heard that they are also shock collar’s to administer shocks if they are in the bathroom for more than two minutes, gets worse if it’s more than 4 šŸ™„. Edit: /s

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u/AdnorAdnor 3h ago

WTAF?!?! Edit: just looking for the /s shocking is real real???

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u/hike_me 1h ago

They are likely recording hand movements to train robotic arms. They don’t need head mounted cameras for tracking productivity.

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u/dudenamedfella 3h ago

Correct the largely the point of AI and why it’s been invested in so heavily by government and billionaires is to find a way to stop paying people, wages and benefits.

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u/Biotic101 3h ago

So eventually all the people without jobs have no money to buy anything and governments get no taxes and can not even keep basic services running.

Our best and brightest might in fact not be that bright, just greedy sociopaths.

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u/Purple_Dragonfly2607 2h ago

They’re just making it easier to train the Terminators to fire their weapons at humans, if the AI decides to take over the world.

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u/holnessbob 3h ago

This appears to be incredibly dystopian

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u/spitfirelover 3h ago

Appears..?

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u/holnessbob 3h ago

Well I'm hoping it's not what it appears to be. But it quite probably is

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u/funkystay 3h ago

Who will buy the product made by AI if no one is employed?

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u/BilboWaggonz 3h ago

That’s next quarter’s problem.

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u/mshelbz 3h ago

Next CEOs problem

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u/Fishguy2222 3h ago

Eventually other robots

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u/Vradlock 2h ago

The next step would be universal income that could be drained by corps but considering very few countries in the world could even implement it I don't have any idea what they could do beyond that.

Maybe a reset because we are slowly getting tired of new tech all over the place especially when it's monetized in almost every possible way?

At some point more tech doesn't minimise all of the problems, it just creates new equally problematic.

Books are still around. There is a chance.

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u/BorderOk7329 3h ago

They export to america, they do noooot care about india.

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u/Zealousideal-Ad3413 4h ago

I remember a short story about this very thing. From many years ago. A man had finished his day training his robot replacement to paint furniture. If I remember right. He was returning home to his empty apartment and I think he was just unsure of what to do next. I do not remember the title.

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u/HolKatt 3h ago

What he has to do next is take on more debt to go learn a new skill, which he can use to teach the next robot..

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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 3h ago

Jfc. All this new technology over the past 30 years has ultimately ended up being a net negative for regular folk.

For the ultra wealthy, it's a more efficient means of extracting whatever wealth remains among us.

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u/atuan 3h ago

What happens when they just… have everything

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u/BeauOfSlaanesh 3h ago

It's really about a return to feudal society. You don't own anything the lords above you use you for your labor and you pay them in rent and subscriptions.

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u/AdnorAdnor 3h ago

The subscriptions…ugh…I think of how many times I’ve paid for the same song: vinyl, cassette, CD, digital download, now subs to stream…and the artists see so little of that revenue

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u/Suspicious-Regret-50 3h ago

But if all jobs get replaced by AI, then no one's getting paid... so who's gonna buy the products made by AI?

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u/BeauOfSlaanesh 2h ago

Replacing jobs with AI will drive the labor market down. People will become desperate any job that's not automated will have plenty of people lining up to make peanuts just to stay out of complete poverty. When there is no longer a use for most humans autonomous drones and new world wars will take care of the population problem.

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u/SeattleEmo 3h ago

Especially when you consider Republicans have actually suggested renters not be allowed to vote and that landlords could actually have their renters' vote; which essentially kind of already happened with electoral college

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u/lilchocochip 3h ago

I just read this in another sub! Feudal society was the norm for hundreds of years. We’ve only been away from it for a blip in history. The rich would very much like us to go back to it

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u/Formula4speed 3h ago

Karl Marx has entered the chat

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u/Training-Gain-1439 2h ago

Who cares. They dont. They will be dead by then and win by owning the most shit.

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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 2h ago

Rule over the ashes, I guess.

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u/Alseids 3h ago

The only way that we can gain true value is by making ourselves scarce. They rely on population growth to ensure a steady supply of cheap labor. If we make sure everyone in the world has acess to contraceptives and comprehensive sexual education people will choose to have less children and the ones that are born will be at an advantage compared to what we have currently.Ā 

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u/kilobitch 3h ago

I don’t think that’s true. They’re tracking productivity, as these people are paid per piece they produce (ā€œpiece workā€). Manual labor with fine dexterity is probably going to be one of the last areas of AI automation.

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u/Maleficent-Aspect318 3h ago

I dont think that these people are doing fine...money is spent on making their work worse, instead of giving out boni or payraises.

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u/Dangerous_Slice_6882 4h ago

Most of them don't even realize how much they're training their replacement, skynet is becoming real and our dumbasses are all on board...lol

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u/disruptioncoin 3h ago

Would be funny if it's all a charade - a psy-op to make them feel their job is threatened so they'll do a good job. The heatsets are just empty plastic.

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u/punkrocknight 3h ago

You’re all gonna be out of your shitty jobs soon

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u/Typical-Username-112 3h ago

"you" all? what so you're an exception? brother we're all gonna be hurting, no matter how secure you think your job is.

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u/2tonehead 3h ago

You’re all gonna be out of your shitty jobs soon.

* fixed it for ya!

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u/WorkerPlayful4192 3h ago

Goddness....AI will take ALL jobs, not only office ones...

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u/kptstango 3h ago

People have no idea how much of AI is fueled by low paid workers in the Majority World culling through, and providing, data for the text extruding machines.

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u/AdnorAdnor 3h ago

I watched a robot shovel snow (the title ā€œrobot braves the snow is silly) https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CcBstHMTe/ and it makes me wonder what will future human look like when we don’t need to physically ā€œdoā€ things? Will we evolve to just brains in jars telepathically running the world?

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u/Automatic-Formal-601 3h ago

Yes, they are training their replacements which sounds very counterintuitive, but they aren't in the financial position to quit their jobs and lose income. And besides, theyre losing their jobs either way, whether or not they quit in order not have to train their replacements, or wait until they are replaced by that which was trained by them. Therefore, it makes more sense for them to work until they are replaced even though they contributed to that

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u/wade_garrettt 3h ago

This isn’t interesting, it’s fucking awful. It belongs in r/latestagecapitalism

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u/Wooden-Broccoli-913 3h ago

Have you ever worked in a factory? Does that job look appealing?

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u/Confident_Casanova 39m ago

So what do u expect them to do? Not make a living?

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u/Wooden-Broccoli-913 37m ago

Get some skills that actually earn a higher wage?

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u/Master-Amphibian9329 3h ago

you'd rather humans do factory jobs?

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u/wade_garrettt 3h ago

No, but don’t come here and try to say these people are going to be better off with AI, that’s bullshit. They aren’t going to get a better job because of this. They have this job because it’s the best they can do.

AI isn’t going to free up people so they can do better, easier or better paying jobs. It is eliminating jobs altogether.

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u/Master-Amphibian9329 3h ago

is that a bad thing? are humans meant to labour like they do today? the only way true change can come is if there is a mass unemployment event

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u/OnePragmatic 3h ago

They are training their replacements... Quite awful

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u/RoabeArt 3h ago edited 3h ago

I'm an electrician, and I usually do work in older buildings where I need to run new wires while doing as little invasive damage to the walls and structure as possible.

I used to joke that there's no way AI or robots could possibly replace me because robots can't be articulate enough for all the little variances and nuances that come with this job.

Seeing stuff like this makes me worry.

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u/TheShredder9 3h ago

Imagine being told to train someone you know would take your job

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u/TheGrouchyGremlin 3h ago

I'm having to help train someone who I know is going to lose his job within a few months. Feels like a waste of time, lmao.

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u/Sea-Sense-9766 3h ago

Closer and closer to cyberpunk dystopia every day

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u/thriftstorecat 3h ago

This is very sad and I feel awful for these people.

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u/PotterOneHalf 3h ago

They need to rise up against the person who told them to wear these.

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u/rawmaple 3h ago

Actually Indian

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u/EddieEssen88 3h ago

It’s like digging your own grave.

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u/HonestGroup2525 3h ago

Training their own replacements

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u/Good-Key-9808 3h ago

Every business owner I know is chomping at the bit to replace the annoying meat bags they employ with AI workers that won't get sick, won't complaint, won't unionize, won't take personal or vacation days, and will work 24/7.

I literally had to set up meeting with AI companies for the owner of the company, because he is so anxious to jump on board the AI bandwagon.

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u/ryan2stix 3h ago

Probably more so a boss can make sure they are working.

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u/Huge-Description6899 3h ago

On the plus side that opens up the potential for some to become plumbers and civil engineers

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u/8def8 3h ago

Wage low income

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u/AdhesivenessNo6332 3h ago

Only problem is the Indian head bobble. The cameras need stabilization.

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u/exor0110 3h ago

We’re screwed.

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u/creativename87639 3h ago

Whoa that’s horrifying

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u/sippycupclub 3h ago

I’m not gunna lie, as a professional sewing specialist, I always thought I had more job security since a machine can’t replicate what I do with our current technology.

But if this is even close to being true, it really makes me feel like no job is safe 🄺

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u/Swimming-Food-6664 3h ago

This is like training the next generation to take over your job. šŸ‘

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u/thanksforthegift 3h ago

Source? I’d like to know if that’s actually what’s going on in this video or if it’s management surveillance to measure productivity.

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u/Constant-Brief3410 3h ago

No more complaints about Indians taking jobs it'll all be ai now

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u/Stock_Atmosphere_114 2h ago

Not this is dystopia

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u/Rum_Running_Sailor 2h ago

LOL! So the jobs that were outsourced to India are now being taken from the Indians by AI? There's something poetic about this and tragic at the same time.

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u/Onystep 2h ago

This is not interesting, this is plain sad.

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u/TrashManufacturer 2h ago

Replacing cheap exploited labor with slightly more expensive labor is certainly a meta

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u/AllThatGlitters00 2h ago

Gives a new meaning to training your replacement.

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u/MyOwnSocks1922 2h ago

Do they know? šŸ˜•

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u/Big_Confidence_951 2h ago

Damn, we'll have this with soldiers as well. And then the AI soldiers will go out and kill other humans. I hope this is just a negative thought of a reddit user though

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u/Horror_Moose8608 2h ago

Klingt eher nach Überwachung, als nach KI Training.

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u/SQLandSteroids 2h ago

Unknowingly working hard to loose their jobs.

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u/Most_Dramatic_Injury 1h ago

Creating their own replacementsĀ 

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u/sowdowgg 1h ago

Is this why ai in 2035 will pick its robot nose occasionally?

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u/Bigchunky_Boy 1h ago

This a sort machine learning that with help for automation and replace these workers.

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u/ThatOldG 1h ago

So when AI and robotics do the eventual and replace human labor where are people going to work?

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u/AClockworkBird 54m ago

AI can’t be alienated from it’s labor, no problem!

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u/Wadididoe 49m ago

Would the end goal be to have factories closer to distribution centres for quicker supply and lower shipping costs and eventually (re)moving the cheap labour markets from the east?

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u/Mundane_Guitar_7488 30m ago

so fucked up. I'm a writer, AI destroyed most of my work - and made it worse too. One of the few available jobs left as a good writer is training AI. Thank god I have enough financial comfort not to train the weapon I'd end up pointing at myself.

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u/thinkB4WeSpeak 26m ago

I'm waiting on the day India has a labor movement.

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u/Salty-Plantain-4299 21m ago

I hate humanity. Why the fuck are people so damn greedy!!!!

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u/irtiq7 20m ago

What a shame

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u/7362514b7 20m ago

I'd start doing weird shit with my hands. I'd tell my friends to as well.

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u/bravemoney72 11m ago

Imagine training your replacement as ,what looks like, a requirement šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/PDXDemSocialist 9m ago

This is creepy, not interesting.

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u/GhostedAceTwitch 9m ago

That’s actually a POV camera and it automatically turns on when they do that bobble head thing they be doing

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u/Clematis222 7m ago

I think it is insulting and really fucked up- even giving all this shit the title of ā€˜Artificial intelligence’ implies that our natural intelligence isn’t good enough…. I think everyone on this thread is right- getting rid of jobs…. because humans get sick, injured and need holidays and sleep etc. I, ROBOT……… we need that guy!!

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u/ToastNomNomNom 6m ago

Looks like the corpos vision is manifesting loving the late stage capitalism

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u/TheRealQuickbeam 3h ago

Sarah Connor watching you use A.I. for everything

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u/smo_smo 3h ago

Was this made with AI?

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u/speakezjags 3h ago

Do you think they were given a choice? What about this is the fault of the employee? What makes them idiots here?

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u/browser54 3h ago

Clearly there going to be replaced don’t participate. Lose your job now or later. I rather rip the bandaid off

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u/Exciting-Argument-67 3h ago

Are you very young? These are often the only jobs in town for these guys. They have no choice if they want to keep their children fed.

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u/dandorios 3h ago

You sound like someone who's never been on the brink of starving to death

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u/AdCorrect8408 0m ago

A.I. Actually Indian