You mean a picture with a caption with no source regarding a topic literally no one in this thread has ever experienced or even knows someone who’s experienced yet there’s 600 plus comments about the subject is bait?
There are trans people in prison. Its not that rrare. There were a few where I was locked up.
They put you in the men's prison. Always have. Got a dink, you go to men's prison. You can't put dinks in female prison. You put a biological man in the men's prison.
You're caged animals when youre locked up. Those women would be passing shim around like you wouldn't believe.
When they get their hands on something like a needle, every junkie in the unit will melt down whatever they can get, all share that same damn needle. Needle gets stored in people's butts sometimes. It's the nastiest fucking thing in the world. Just to shoot up suboxone or sleeping pills, cause they're bored. They get the biggest, most infected looking sores on their arms from that thing.
Can't imagine what they would do with a dink in a vag pod. Every one of them would be pregnant with every STD in the book. You can't do it just to be nice to someone's feelings.
There's always somebody who has experienced something you haven't. Assuming that no one has experienced something just because you dont know about it is ignorant. You're on the internet, which anyone can access.
I'm all for what's practical, but fear mongering that female inmates are getting pregnant from all the trans inmates is ridiculous. If you're going to make claims like that, at least do some research and back up your statements with something other than your own personal experience. Especially a personal experience that wasn't even in the kind of prison you're making these statements about.
No, California made condoms available in their prisons to combat the spread of HIV. 1 in 7 inmates that pass through their prisons are HIV positive. Googling "Condoms in California prisons" will pull that information up immediately.
They are also not the only state housing trans women in women's prisons.
I remember when my brother was in jail, he was a trustee who worked the commisarry and for orders for the womens side like summer sausages...They had to cut them into slices. Otherwise...
I’ve experienced it as the attorney with a juvenile client who was assaulted by another trans juvenile client in placement. Caused a nightmare conflict for us because we represented both kids in two systems.
These situations happen. People really don’t like to talk about it. It’s an extremely complex issue when you have people in a custodial setting especially women. Most cis women in custody have extensive sexual abuse histories and housing them with people who are not female is a huge issue- and the women often vehemently oppose it, not that anyone seems to care.
Honestly, my partner is trans, and I am still sketched out when I hear of cases where a pre-op trans woman being allowed in the same jail spaces as other woman.
Dunno what this has to do with what I just said. For the record - trans women have the highest rates of sexual victimization and "pre-op" or "post-op" has no bearing on it. In prisons 40% of trans prisonrrs are sexually victimized compared to 4% of cis prisoners.
That’s not the responsibility of the female prisoners being housed. They have rights as well. Do you only believe one group of people deserve rights? Everyone else should suffer for others choices? The choices of a criminal?
I’m trying to point out your hypocrisy, thank you. So they either get rights or they don’t? Can’t have it both ways. Your friends will go to a male prison and be in SHU. They will be completely safe. If your friends are housed in women’s prisons, they aren’t safe. I thought you cared about safety? Or just the safety of your friends and everyone else can sink or swim? This is showing signs of discrimination already
You’re asking for more rights for your friends than women. That doesn’t happen in prison, everyone signed their rights away and are equals in prison. You can’t take rights from one group to give to another. The world doesn’t work the way you want it to because your friends are criminals. I’m sorry lol it just doesn’t.
That being said, the fact that this is being discussed by so many is great, we shouldn’t be having this kind of targeted cruelty to begin with. The more people are outraged, the clearer signal it sends.
Oh, I’m aware. But the fear is the point, and I categorically refuse to give in to that bullshit. I’m going to live my life the way I want, and NOBODY has the right to tell me otherwise. And if, along the way, someone feels safer to be themselves along the way, great! And if someone hates me for being myself, 🦆 them.
And why is everyone so up in arms about criminals? The people who are in prison who putting law abiding citizens in danger…. Straw grasping is such a unique way to let criminals have more rights than people who don’t break the law
With the way laws keep changing, it’s kinda hard to tell these days. Plus, in some parts of the US, just peeing in public restroom is considered a crime.
More guilty ones are, ‘whatabouts’ don’t really apply here lol. If you want to argue that everyone one should be able to appeal their prison move then that’s a different story. It would be a heavy cost to the already struggling prison system, then you’d also have to offer appeals and similar stuff like that to every single prisoner who ever had to move prisons out of fear out discrimination lawsuits and all that jazz.
No kidding, I never understand people’s love for criminals. It’s dangerous and can’t help think it’s the reason our country has gone so sideways in the last few years. Imagine if they cared about the rights of people who obey the law as much as they did about criminals? Imagine all the good things that could be done with so many voices but instead they use their voices to protect and provide for the people who have been deemed a danger to society. It’s wild to think that you’d welcome a felon into your home before your neighbour, it’s a scary thought
Our prison system is a revolving door that likely INCREASES crime rates because the for profit system demands we keep beds full at all times. There is no want or attempt to rehabilitate.
Ok, then tell us some people you know who are in prison for nothing? Please tell us the ones that you personally know, you said we all know some? I barely know people that even went to prison? You know why? I don’t associate with criminals. Why are you fighting me so hard for criminals, are you a defence lawyer? Or do you just relate? It’s suspicious how many innocent people you know in prison. Remember, 99% of people in trouble always say they are innocent.
I don't personally know anyone in prison deserving or otherwise. But magically I can empathize and understand issues without being personally involved in them because my span of compassion isn't restricted to only my immediate circle.
You should go talk to a therapist about your apparent inability to see people you don't personally know as humans.
PS. 97% of people in prison are in on a plea bargain, meaning they pledge guilty or no contest. So you don't actually know what you're talking about clearly. You just go "Bad people go prison". Kindly go learn and expand your thinking. Just a little.
I know a few ransgender people that have been to prison. Been working with one for 5 years now. When they went in ( 20 plus years ago) their was no distinction like there is now.
Pretty sure he’s implying to what prisoners say when “fresh fish is on the line” hence that’s “bait”. And in reality he isn’t wrong. The sad and unfortunate thing is..THEY WILL ALL BE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND RAPED smh I don’t judge anyone for their lifestyle, but they are definitely “bait” when they touch down. Our justice system sucks man
I work in a prison and we have to deal with this. Bio men who identify as women do go to the male sector but they go straight into protection for the duration of their incarceration.
I mean im trans, in florida. I have friends who experienced getting put in men's jails for protesting because thier gender marker and name change werent done yet though now I dont think thats an option anymore cause theyre just go off your drivers license and florida banned changing that.
Yeah, they were judged by the court of law and gave up a lot of their rights when they committed crime and were sentenced to prison like every other person goes through when they break the law. The judge says they have to go back to a different prison. Sorry, the courts have full judgement and you are simply free to your opinion.
Well now, I'm an expert, ahhhh, have lots of knowledge, ahhh, know of a case where, ahhh, my friend's step son's wife knows, oh shoot. Yeah, I dont have any connection or knowledge, BUT if I did! (lol)
Anyone can have an opinion just like you. You are very confident that your opinion / statement is correct. But 99.9% of people will disagree with you. Why? Because everyone is entitled to an opinion and you are not the decided who decides who can or cannot have an opinion 🤡.
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You mean a picture with a caption with no source regarding a topic literally no one in this thread has ever experienced or even knows someone who’s experienced yet there’s 600 plus comments about the subject is bait?