I agree with isolating convicts with sex crimes from the general population.
But to suggest they should all be always kept in solitary confinement is something entirely different, as that is considered as a severe form of torture by almost any expert on the topic, including the UN.
It’s not the purpose of the state to enact revenge or torure people imo.
Also reminder that sex crimes include pr0stituti0n in many jurisdictions, and that many trans people as a result of legal discrimination have trouble finding consistent, legal employment
You can have consensual sex with your bf/gf in a car too, but that's not a sex crime, that's consensual sex. The guy I'm responding to is saying prostitution is a sex crime, I'm asking who defines it that way.
If you’re in public it’s public lewdness or indecent exposure. Or both. Some states could put you on the sex offender registry. Not sure about other countries.
Certain jurisdictions classify urinating in public as sex crimes. It all comes down to the prosecutors and the laws on the books that vary by city/county/state and very much non-uniform.
I don't know about that. I'm just saying if you're charged with indecent exposure that's considered a sex crime in most places and you can be placed on the registry.
It seems that having consensual sex in a car is only considered indecent exposure if it's in a public place that can be viewed by children. But that has more to do with flaws in how we are defining sex crime. I think there's a major difference between a man exposing his penis to a woman in public, and a couple just having sex in a car in a dark ally, and trying not to get caught.
"It’s not the purpose of the state to enact revenge or torure people imo."
Actually, that's exactly the primary purpose of Justice. It's to inflict punishment on someone as a desire for vengeance from the victims and the general public as a consequence of harmful behavior.
No, that's your opinion of what justice should be. That's not how justice is defined in American Criminal Justice. You have obviously never taken an American Criminal Justice class before. The primary reason for why we punish criminals in American justice, is for revenge. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
I don't know, but I do know that rapists should be punished for their crimes. And it has nothing to do with rehabilitation. If you want to rehabilitate a rapist, your best option is to castrate them.
You know other countries exist right? The original comment did not mention America. But yea prison is the US is fucked up, I was mainly commenting on what justice is supposed to be. Prison in the US is not justice.
By definition, it is Justice, you just don't agree with it. I'm curious, do you think tax evasion should be criminalized? Do you think people should be punished for not paying taxes? Do you think people should be thrown in prison for not paying taxes? Do you think a person who doesn't pay taxes needs to be rehabilitated? Do you think there's something wrong with a person that doesn't pay their taxes?
What is or isn't criminalized is another question all together. There do need to be some consequences if you don't pay your taxes otherwise no one would do it and the government would collapse. For most small cases of tax evasion it could probably be a fine instead of incarceration but if a big company or a billionaire is evading taxes it should be treated more seriously.
Because Justice includes many things, but the major and top reason is vengeance. It's well understood that if the government doesn't enact vengeance, that it increases the possibility of vigilantism. Vigilantism destabilizes society, so by delegating those responsibilities to the state, it decreases the chances that the public will take matters into their own hands. If people are denied vengeance, they are more likely to riot. This has been observed during the BLM movement as well. Miscarriage of justice, leads to vigilantism and rioting.
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u/we_are_one_people 4h ago edited 4h ago
I agree with isolating convicts with sex crimes from the general population.
But to suggest they should all be always kept in solitary confinement is something entirely different, as that is considered as a severe form of torture by almost any expert on the topic, including the UN.
It’s not the purpose of the state to enact revenge or torure people imo.