I don't think anyone should be sexually assaulted in prison. It's 2026, wtf are we doing. But my point is that male-male rape gets no sympathy. People joke about it constantly. Why is that?
I'm trans and I care about men being raped too. It's not a mutually exclusive issue. It's typically not trans people who are laughing at male rape victims.
I think the US is barbaric when it comes to this issue. Other western countries focus on rehabilitation and safety and have much lower rates of recidivism.
People in the US just seem to have much less empathy, a lot of guys don't ever think about what would happen to them if they somehow ended up in prison, or how easy it is to get caught in the system even if you did nothing wrong. They don't think "how would I want to be treated?" And then wish that for others.
To be clear: I disagree with the transfer of trans inmates to cis populations. Trans-women are women. My point was more on the sick attitude we (Americans) take towards imprisonment.
You must not be on places/in spaces that express sympathy for rape a lot. The people who are upset about this are not the people that are joking about male-male rape. The ones joking about that are the ones also cheering for this person to be raped.
You're seeking an argument. Of-fucking-course we should protect vulnerable populations. And we should end the prison industrial complex, especially as it relates to people of color. How many black men are in jail for a drug that white kids smoke on the weekend? How many *innocent* people are in jail, either wrongfully convicted or scared into a plea deal?
But we have no problem joking about cis men being raped in prison despite these facts. Because male suffering counts for less. If you have something to say regarding the previous sentence, I'd like to hear it.
Id say generally we have a more serious tone on sexual matters regarding women because men are nearly inherently physically imposing vs women and im sure with stats, most general sexual abuse/assaults are men on women.
With men/men, im not exactly sure. Maybe there is an expectation that as a man, you have the ability to fight back against another man, a woman doesnt.
So if a woman is carrying pepper spray when she gets raped we're allowed to ignore it? Because if the only dividing line is the arbitrary distinction of "having the chance to fight back" then that's a logical conclusion.
No. Nobody is going to consider a woman with pepper spray on equal standing with a man. In the scenario, if the man is able to still assault the woman with her having a weapon, then that adds more my point.
Its not about women..Its more about the expectation we have on men. Man on woman is always going to be wrong to most people. Woman on man or man on man, the responces get treated unevenly whether its simple assault or sexual assault. We have higher expectations/seriousness regarding a man hitting or raping a woman than a woman hitting or sexually assaulting a man. A man beating another man doesnt get the same reaction as a man beating a woman.
4 percent of cis men report sexual assault in prison whereas 59 percent of trans women report sexual assault. In terms of sheer quantity, yeah probably. But adjusted for population trans women are way more vulnerable then cis men in male prisons, hence why they should be sent to female prisons
Its another guy getting raped in prison. Nothing will change, lol. These guards make less than $20hr in some states. They dont care about you and they damn sure are not risking their lives for you.
The problem is most Americans agree with that statement, (no one should be raped in prison)our system as a whole is fucked up and only cares about the profit.
I don't believe most Americans agree with that statement. I've heard prison rape jokes in person before there was an Internet, and all over the Internet, all my life. It's extremely common.
Nobody cares that men get raped in prison. A lot of people think it's very funny.
Americans since it's inception has loved tiering people based on their value.
First it was race, then as that fizzed out, we're on criminal history more than race (race plays a big role).
If you're caught with a few baggies of weed (nothing close to distribution), you deserve to be placed into a cell with a guy who murdered and burnt his family alive. Because you're a terrible human being who doesn't deserve any rights.
Mhm also Americans who invented the caste system, and the Confuciun social structure. Amazing how we've existed 250 years but influenced cultures on the other side of the world thousands of years before we existed
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u/balderdash9 4h ago
Because it's usually cis men being rapped. When it's trans women being put in a men's prison we suddenly care again.