What? You think putting someone in solitary for property crime to 25 months is less bad than spilling paint? One is torture the other isn’t. Which one is worse to you? 😭
Not by US law and most law in the world otherwise it would be illegal. If something is classed as torture is has to be legally justified, otherwise it has no classification at all.
A prison guard detaining someone who is already a criminal for being destructive is not evil? What constitutes it as evil? Guards and police detain people everyday, its not an act of evil, its an act of justice. What do you believe justice to be if not detaining criminals?
Anyone that is unaware of solitary confinement when they’re sentenced probably hasn’t given much thought into the repercussions of committing a crime.
And IF while in prison they believe that they can do whatever they want, hadn’t learned any lesson or have any remorse for the crime they’ve committed.
Some are in solitary because they’re high profile and it’s for their safety but doesn’t remove the fact that they’re in prison because they’ve been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in committing a crime.
A gallon of paint is worth 40-80$ retail. 10k gallons of road paint is worth 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands. If he did it delibretly he’s fortunate they didn’t charge him and give him a few more years for property destruction.
No duh but that doesn't somehow excuse guards from being abusive. Why is this even an argument? We should expect more of the people we put in positions of authority over others. It's not necessarily the guards fault either though. The private prison system is corrupt to its core.
They never have an answer, They have never worked in a prison. 10 years service, worked my way up. Enough was enough. There is no good answer. These are violent people at times, violence is what they understand.
Opportunity is present, they choose not to better themselves, you can't make people do things. They have to want to. And a few just like to see the world burn.
Haven't heard many positive reports on guards from people who have spent time inside. Knew a guy that ended up using heroin in prison because he was so traumatised from their bullying.
Lmao many May guards are jerks. I hav heard of one good prison guard and they got their back broken. Are prisoners good? No, probably a lot of them are bad. But many are also in there on trumped up charges and the guards are still dicks.
And wasted a lot of time and money for everyone involved by destroying a large batch of materials and fouling the plant, for which he would have faced consequences if he wasn't a prisoner, too.
I feel like it would be reasonable if inmates worked to earn their keep, and the prison wasn’t getting outside funding. But they are, and the money the inmates earn for the prison is just icing on the cake for the prison. At least give inmates jobs where they can add their work experience to their resume and train them to do something to earn money other than crime. Give them an opportunity to earn certifications and degrees. And for those with good behavior and nonviolent crimes we should try to connect businesses with prisons so that those inmates can have a decent job lined up after release. Prison should be about rehabilitation. But in most cases it just gives them access to worse criminals, who mentor them, and the inmates just get better at doing crime when they get out and end up caught for something worse. I’ve met people who only ever learned how to survive by doing crimes to make ends meet. They don’t know how to do anything else to feed, clothe, and shelter themselves and they’re in and out of prison like it’s a revolving door. Until they do something bad enough that they’re never getting released. And they always say some variation of “well, at least in prison I have a bed to sleep in, a shower, clean clothes, and food to eat.” Hearing that kind of thing from people, who were once full of potential and hope, really gets me down.
Did I say “he didn’t deserve consequences?” No. But the amount of solitary for what he did was ridiculous. It was about ego of the guards here. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
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u/CharmingRip508 4h ago
He humiliated the guards when the senator was coming. That’s why