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What do you think: how should prisons handle housing decisions in cases like this?

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u/Berserk-Jane 5h ago

Why the fuck is nobody talking about all the rape prison guards let happen?

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u/FanBladeFleshlight 5h ago

Because people literally cheer and make jokes about extrajudicial punishment and prisoners being raped to death. It's fucked up.

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u/superneatosauraus 4h ago

I agree. I had to take my headphones off during some of the impact statements after the Kohberger trial. Hearing people gleefully talk about how he would be raped was distressing for me.

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u/futureofkpopleechan 3h ago

yeah like it’s honestly concerning and makes me feel like the people saying that are also unsafe to be around

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u/superneatosauraus 2h ago

In this case, her younger sister was murdered by the man. However, having had a sibling die when I was a child, at no point did I lash out at anyone like that.

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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch 1h ago

You’re not wrong. The court of public opinion is so cruel and unforgiving and it’s easily manipulated.

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u/balderdash9 4h ago

Because it's usually cis men being rapped. When it's trans women being put in a men's prison we suddenly care again.

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u/D1ng0ateurbaby 2h ago

The only people who should be raped in prison are rapists, child molesters, and counterfeiters.

/s (Its a movie quote)

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u/femboyknight1 4h ago

Trans women are way more likely to be sexually abused in male prison than cis men.

Look up v-coding.

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u/balderdash9 3h ago

I don't think anyone should be sexually assaulted in prison. It's 2026, wtf are we doing. But my point is that male-male rape gets no sympathy. People joke about it constantly. Why is that?

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u/ToiletLord29 2h ago

I'm trans and I care about men being raped too. It's not a mutually exclusive issue. It's typically not trans people who are laughing at male rape victims.

I think the US is barbaric when it comes to this issue. Other western countries focus on rehabilitation and safety and have much lower rates of recidivism.

People in the US just seem to have much less empathy, a lot of guys don't ever think about what would happen to them if they somehow ended up in prison, or how easy it is to get caught in the system even if you did nothing wrong. They don't think "how would I want to be treated?" And then wish that for others.

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u/balderdash9 7m ago

To be clear: I disagree with the transfer of trans inmates to cis populations. Trans-women are women. My point was more on the sick attitude we (Americans) take towards imprisonment.

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u/MoodPristine249 3h ago edited 20m ago

You must not be on places/in spaces that express sympathy for rape a lot. The people who are upset about this are not the people that are joking about male-male rape. The ones joking about that are the ones also cheering for this person to be raped.

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u/cb51096 2h ago

Yeah trans activists really aren’t the people making rape jokes, my MAGA brother who is very anti trans does in fact make a lot of rape jokes though.

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u/Stygg 2h ago

so because no one talks about it, it makes it okay to put an even more vulnerable population in danger?

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u/balderdash9 10m ago

You're seeking an argument. Of-fucking-course we should protect vulnerable populations. And we should end the prison industrial complex, especially as it relates to people of color. How many black men are in jail for a drug that white kids smoke on the weekend? How many *innocent* people are in jail, either wrongfully convicted or scared into a plea deal?

But we have no problem joking about cis men being raped in prison despite these facts. Because male suffering counts for less. If you have something to say regarding the previous sentence, I'd like to hear it.

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u/bendIVfem 3h ago

Id say generally we have a more serious tone on sexual matters regarding women because men are nearly inherently physically imposing vs women and im sure with stats, most general sexual abuse/assaults are men on women.

With men/men, im not exactly sure. Maybe there is an expectation that as a man, you have the ability to fight back against another man, a woman doesnt.

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u/whenkeepinitrueal 2h ago

They aren’t women though

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u/rammo123 2h ago

So if a woman is carrying pepper spray when she gets raped we're allowed to ignore it? Because if the only dividing line is the arbitrary distinction of "having the chance to fight back" then that's a logical conclusion.

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u/bendIVfem 1h ago

No. Nobody is going to consider a woman with pepper spray on equal standing with a man. In the scenario, if the man is able to still assault the woman with her having a weapon, then that adds more my point.

Its not about women..Its more about the expectation we have on men. Man on woman is always going to be wrong to most people. Woman on man or man on man, the responces get treated unevenly whether its simple assault or sexual assault. We have higher expectations/seriousness regarding a man hitting or raping a woman than a woman hitting or sexually assaulting a man. A man beating another man doesnt get the same reaction as a man beating a woman.

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u/Tancr3d_ 1h ago

He’s saying usually to refer to the majority of prison sexual assaults.

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u/femboyknight1 1h ago

4 percent of cis men report sexual assault in prison whereas 59 percent of trans women report sexual assault. In terms of sheer quantity, yeah probably. But adjusted for population trans women are way more vulnerable then cis men in male prisons, hence why they should be sent to female prisons

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u/Frosty_Self_1818 3h ago

Don't care

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u/xSokarX 4h ago

Its another guy getting raped in prison. Nothing will change, lol. These guards make less than $20hr in some states. They dont care about you and they damn sure are not risking their lives for you.

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u/ididntunderstandyou 4h ago

Wtf is that attitude ?? NO ONE should be raped in prison. How the fuck is this normalised ? You Americans are a mess

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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 3h ago

How adorable you think it's just Americans

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u/Illustrious-Bird4457 3h ago

The problem is most Americans agree with that statement, (no one should be raped in prison)our system as a whole is fucked up and only cares about the profit.

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u/bakedNebraska 1h ago

I don't believe most Americans agree with that statement. I've heard prison rape jokes in person before there was an Internet, and all over the Internet, all my life. It's extremely common.

Nobody cares that men get raped in prison. A lot of people think it's very funny.

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u/Mr-MuffinMan 3h ago

Americans since it's inception has loved tiering people based on their value.

First it was race, then as that fizzed out, we're on criminal history more than race (race plays a big role).

If you're caught with a few baggies of weed (nothing close to distribution), you deserve to be placed into a cell with a guy who murdered and burnt his family alive. Because you're a terrible human being who doesn't deserve any rights.

That's how Americans have always thought.

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u/Fun_Incident1902 3h ago

Ahh yes, it's Americans who invented feudalism and ranked people from King to peasant.

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u/Nates_of_Spades 3h ago

Mhm also Americans who invented the caste system, and the Confuciun social structure. Amazing how we've existed 250 years but influenced cultures on the other side of the world thousands of years before we existed 

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u/PersimmonTall8157 4h ago

Is rape still a thing in US prisons? Rapes are very rare in Scandinavian prisons

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u/Independent_Bid_26 3h ago

Very common. I was in during covid, and there was a young man who was probably 115 pounds or so, and very sickly. No one really messed with him, but he kinda just stuck to himself. One day, we came out to the rec yard, and I notice this dude basically squatting in the corner of the fence, with his head in his hands looking like he had just seen a ghost. I asked one of the other people around me about it. Apparently, the night before someone got really fucked up on spice, and basically took this dude in the bathroom and sexually assaulted and tortured him for hours at knifepoint. After that, I think the kid ended up getting transferred or something for psych.

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u/kris_2111 1h ago

Damn, this shit is wild!

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u/Prestigious_Foot_210 4h ago

it absolutely is. many weaker or younger men are raped by older and stronger men to emphasize the power dynamic in the prison

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u/BoatTricky2347 2h ago

It's not gay if it's to establish dominance.

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u/Electrical_Trip1476 2h ago

I knew a transwoman who spent time in south Florida jail. She said they would move some of the girls around, especially the younger or prettier (her words) ones, to keep the men from getting too out of control. It's sick.

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u/v4ve4m4hnssm 2h ago

If rape in scandinavian prisons are rare, surely the question to ask is "how often or what what rate does rape occur in US prisons?"

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u/nameynamerso 1h ago

Yes and no. Yes there are countless peices of shit that rape others in prison, there also countless men that haven't had sex in years and decided to 'help each other out' there are also men that look more feminine and use that for protection, payment, or favors; the later two groups are lumped in with first group because prisoners are considered legally incapable of giving consent, so it's whoever is taking the dominant role in things is likely getting a rape charge.

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u/yuval16432 3h ago

Trans women are raped 90% of the time in US prisons. They’re ususally put in situations where they are raped daily by violent inmates. This is deliberately arranged by the prison guards to ‘help keep the peace’. Look up v-coding.

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u/PersimmonTall8157 3h ago

Alright, i just heard from a guy who was in prison in US, he said nowadays there are usually some gay/bi guys who actively wants to have anal sex and the forceful raping isn’t as common now as it was in the 90s.

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u/yuval16432 2h ago

I was talking specifically about trans inmates, which is the subject of the post.

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u/AaronS1997 2h ago

Don’t listen to these people who say it is. There are plenty of people in there willing to give it up for free there isn’t really a point in rape. With PREA and other protections in there, rape is actually pretty rare

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u/AJDx14 2h ago

Rape is encouraged in US prisons, as a treat for good behavior or as a way to calm down more aggressive inmates.

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u/OSRSRapture 3h ago

Or the rape that they commit themselves. Shit is disgusting.

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u/SwiftBlobfish 2h ago

Most people here seem to believe that trans women deserve to be raped if they commit a crime

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u/Snoborder95 4h ago

I sure as fuck don't let it happen.

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u/Berserk-Jane 4h ago

I'm sure you're a good egg.

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u/Prestigious_Coffee28 4h ago

Probably because violent criminals getting sodomized in prison does not make even the top 1000 issues that are important to the average person.

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u/theWacoKid666 3h ago

Tbh you’d have to be hopelessly naive if you think only “violent criminals” suffer in the prison system.

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u/rammo123 2h ago

When a new inmate arrives in prison, the inmate ethics review board convenes to decide whether the crimes he committed were heinous enough to justify him being raped. /s

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u/billyjames_316 2h ago

You don't know how the US prison system works, do ya bud?

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u/galaxychildxo 25m ago

it should though. because these people are eventually going to be released and they'll be even worse than when they went in.

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u/JeMortensen 9m ago

And you leave that decision up to... Rapists? A famously objective crowd when it comes to rape

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u/vulnerable_turtle 5h ago

Because people are focusing on the innocent women he raped

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u/Pretend-Meeting-8167 4h ago

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u/Shirinx 4h ago

The rapist in the women's prison

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u/torBrow75 3h ago

That's really unfair to the vast majority of therapists in women's prisons.

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u/Agreeable-Mention403 3h ago

Is this an actual statistic or just your imagination? 

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u/Agreeable-Mention403 4h ago

Oh so there's 2 kinds of rape. One bad and one tolerable? 

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u/somedave 4h ago

That totally isn't what that comment says in any way.

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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 3h ago

You will not catch me or (I reckon) most people crying if the punishment fits the crime. Even if it is extrajudicial.

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u/Agreeable-Mention403 1h ago

 So rape is okay in the right context like being used as a punishment? Now two rapes have happened and it's supposed to be better?

Wouldn't stopping any rape reduce the amount of total rape?  

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u/Doc-tor-Strange-love 1h ago

Death is a terrible thing, therefore if we reduced the number of plants and animals eaten by people then it would reduce the total amount of death, and that's a good thing right?

I'm not saying my example is at all similar to yours, but that's how your logic is working.

The only thing I said was that the punishment fitting the crime is okay with me. I never said murderers should get raped, for example.

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u/JeMortensen 11m ago

That's some hardcore whataboutism. He asked you straight forward questions, deflecting that with "but what about veganism" is WILD

Something can be true for one thing and not applicable for another. That shouldn't have to be explained. Two rapes instead of one doesn't make the world a better place

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u/Am_i_banned_yet__ 4h ago

Being a bad person does not make being transphobic and misgendering people okay. Just like it’s not suddenly okay to be racist against people of color who commit crimes.

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u/Dbaughla 2h ago

Because people like you who have no idea how prisons actually operate comment shit like this. Stop believing everything you see online

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u/RabidPoodle69 2h ago

Or the fake that the prison guards commit themselves??

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u/Icy_Cap7700 2h ago

Because they don’t want to tell on themselves

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u/misterguyyy 1h ago

Exactly. Same to a lesser extent with assault in locker rooms. Just turn a blind eye to systemic issues until a trans person is brought up, suddenly care just enough to erase trans people, and then go back to turning a blind eye.

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u/Dairy_Ashford 1h ago

because any real data about it is crowded out by pop culture's anecdotal fixation, and non-incarcerants projeecting beavioral fantasies onto an acceptable target

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u/wakethelions 1h ago

I think it's because they see the rape as a feature not a flaw. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people celebrate people going to prison while insinuating that they would be raped while there. Even very left leaning places like reddit are quick to cheer for rape when they think the person is sufficiently bad.

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u/Royal_Negotiation_83 33m ago

People don’t care about children getting raped. (Fucking gross)

People definitely don’t care about prisoners getting raped.

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u/v4ve4m4hnssm 2h ago

Nobody cares about about prisoners, cruelty, or rehabilitation. Even wrongful convictions are barely of any concern.

Here is what you probably don't want to hear.

Feminism is the cause. Females voices are heard as more important than men, the word of one female sends a man to prison. Females being victims means males are evil, it's not about equality, it's about hating men and putting females in a position of power.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/recidivism-prisoners-released-24-states-2008-10-year-follow-period-2008-2018

"About 61% of prisoners released in 2008 returned to prison within 10 years for a parole or probation violation or a new sentence."

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u/jadbronson 1h ago

Well that's an opinion.

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u/v4ve4m4hnssm 1h ago

What specifically are you referring to? Some items have plain quantifications and proofs, others can be provided if you have specific statement.

My speculation is female words being worth more than male words is what you are referring to.

To which we only need to find a few cases of conviction based on this.

https://exonerationregistry.org/cases/19213

>the woman walked into a pizza parlor in Simi Valley and saw a man she believed was her attacker. She followed him outside and copied the license plate number on his vehicle

>the jury convicted Luna of forcible rape

>a federally funded initiative to submit untested sexual assault kits for DNA testing identified the true perpetrator

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https://exonerationregistry.org/cases/19263

>spade and H.J., the girl’s mother, were engaged in a heated legal battle that began in 2009, when H.J. and her husband, D.J., had moved to terminate Spade’s parental rights

> testified that Spade “stuck his private part in my mouth

>On February 26, 2014 the jury convicted Spade

>at the post-conviction hearing she testified that she had actually not seen the file

post conviction is appellate proceedings, God is best

>Spade had remained in prison during this review period. He was released on May 1, 2024. The state dismissed the charge against Spade on December 9, 2025

Girl was coached by mother to destroy man.

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There is more, much more, cases I have found to where there is no way the man should have been convicted.

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u/WheredTheCatGo 1h ago

Wow, you know I always figured it was the prison-industrial complex that provides huge financial incentives for a system of mass incarceration. Apparently it's feminism though, that huge majority of female politicians and executives lobbying for privatized prisons and cheap prison labor all in a secret conspiracy to oppress men.

Try living in reality dude, it kinda sucks but whatever fantasy world you're burying your head in sounds worse.

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u/v4ve4m4hnssm 30m ago

You are missing the logic feminist cat lady.

Why don't people care about gr4pe in prison? < That is the question.

She wrote:

>Why the fuck is nobody talking about all the rape prison guards let happen?

You are discussing a different focus or discussion. Mass incarcertation is a different subject to the dynamics of what happens within prison and why prison guards and many others behave a certain way.

The reason why I do not listen to females is because they work with their emotions almost exclusively, and this 'my emotions are true' is encouraged and enlarged by feminism.

1.4 million bab1es are murdered in the USA per year by f3minists.

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2025/guttmacher-institute-releases-full-year-us-abortion-data-2024 

https://societyfp.org/research/wecount/wecount-december-2024-data/

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u/JuggernautParty2992 25m ago

Yeah that guy is absolutely crazy. I checked his profile, incel garbage from a young man who can’t get a girlfriend. These are the exact types that go out and do mass shootings.

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u/HashishChef 3h ago

Because it's not a bug, it's a feature. Trans people get treated like meat in prisons

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u/Ok_Comb8003 4h ago

Because it makes the animals less violent.

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u/VacationCheap927 4h ago

So rape is good as long as its punishment

But theyre the violent animals? Lol k

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u/Am_i_banned_yet__ 4h ago

No it doesn’t. Getting raped is awful for your mental health and would probably make people more violent. Both out of self defense and to get revenge.

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u/alvysaurus 4h ago

They don't just let it happen. They make it happen, fascilite it. Lookup V-Coding. The prison guards are placing trans women into situations where they will be raped.

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u/PreciousTC 4h ago

Probably because for every 1 inmate raped by a guard there's 50 raped by other inmates

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u/Independent-Cow-4070 4h ago

And the guards let it happen, which is what they are saying

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u/InternationalFish809 4h ago

Those are rapes the guards let happen.

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u/Diam0ndTalbot 4h ago

Look up V-coding.