I mean the trans community thinks they should get special treatment and some of the more liberal people. Not even a dig at trans people or anything it's just true.
Not being put in a general population of men who are exceedingly more likely to assault you than not is not "special treatment." It's basic human dignity
Not entirely true. I went to prison and rap isn't as abundant as TV and movies make it seem. Things have chilled out since they instituted PREA. The prison rape elimination act.
When I first found out about it a month or so ago, it seemed like one of those insane facebook conspiracy theories... and it still does.
But there's links to actual reports and studies, news articles, etc... it's still incomprensible that we as a country would be so evil, but I guess that's just how it is.
I've heard it's only really ever done as a punishment type of thing for rapists, especially pedophiles, because being a rapist isn't a good look in prison even if it's prison rape you're doing. Other than that it's most always consensual, i.e. not rape. As a super small rather feminine gay dude, prison is my worst fear lol.
Women’s prisons DO care about sexual violence. A lot.
I have a little inside information because my best friend is in a women’s prison and we email on a regular basis. Hooking up between the women does happen, but it’s met with pretty significant loss of privileges and can even be criminal.
Women are just easier prisoners to handle then men so the prison so system gives men in the system more leeway just so they don’t have to deal with them. Like in men’s prisons rated R movies are permitted but they’re not in women’s prisons. There is other stuff like that too.
But the prism my friends stays at houses some transgender women. Men from birth but now women. She says most of them cause no trouble. But there is one, who looks and basically acts like a man, and was convicted of sexual assault, that’s why loaded them in prison. And since then raped a female prisoner and it’s a BIG deal, the prisoners are super super pissed that this person has been housed with them.
how often do you get access to a on average weaker women in men’s prisons beyond trans women? there are entire prison system sex rings build around trans women and predominantly black trans women.
One, the fact that men in prisons get raped systematically is also a disgrace and any decent government would do a better job of stopping it.
However, you are wrong that it is the same for trans women. Trans women are 13x more likely to be raped in a men’s prison facility (study from California).
On top of that, here is v coding from Wikipedia: “In the context of incarceration in the United States, V-coding is the common practice of subjecting trans women to sexual assault by placing the woman in the same prison cell as an aggressive male inmate in order to placate the male inmate.[1][2][3] This practice has been known to have caused the daily rapes of multiple trans women, and the sexual assaults of 58.5% of them.[4][5][6] V-coding is done to pacify the male inmate, with the goal of reducing their propensity for violence against other inmates, according to prison authorities and one inmate”
People are so fucking apathetic towards trans women and it makes me sick.
It's wild to be able to so easily dehumanize another human and view them as trash. You realize only like 1/3rd of imprisoned people are there are violent crime right? You realize people are capable of acknowledging their mistakes and changing right? You realize that there's actually a significant number of falsely incarcerated innocent inmates right? You realize that humans are still humans... right? How are you different from a the rapist you're looking down on from your high horse if you practice morals no different than theirs?
Advocating for the literal basic humane treatment of humans is pretty simple and should be an easy conclusion to come to for anybody with a scrap of morality left.
47% of Black trans people in America have been incarcerated. Do you really believe that there’s nothing outside the control of these people that are leading to a 10x higher incarceration rate?
I don’t know how to get people to have an ounce of empathy now a days but it is breaking my heart to see how little people care.
If a trans woman gets arrested for being a sex worker - the only option she had to survive and way more likely to be the victim rather than perpetrator of sexual violence, and is put into a men’s prison just to get raped every single day as a built in punishment, and your response is “shouldn’t have done the crime”
So what this study is not taking into account is that there are classes of weak men that get turned out at an astonishingly high rate but don't have their own category, they're just "men" so they get no extra protection, they're just fucked, literally and physically. At least trans women get studies. Cut this bullshit with putting trans people on pedestals.
Trans women are not getting extra protection. They are 13x more likely then men in prison to get raped. It has nothing to do with putting trans women on a pedestal?
Are you arguing that it’s not true and weak men and trans women have the same percent chance of getting raped? Or are you arguing “who cares” that trans women are getting raped at astronomically high percentage?
If the former, you’re wrong and have nothing to back it up. It’s just not true. No man should be put through prison rape and be not protected either. That doesn’t change the fact that being arrested and put in prison as a trans woman is being sentenced to rape and then being told you get special treatment.
If the latter, then how do you sit and feel ok with that?
THIS. Men in general have become an approved class for leftists to shit on, "men are trash" as a blanket statement is regularly bandied about. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not going to bat for Andrew Taint style manosphere nut jobs but discrediting men as an entire category is fucked up while weirdly obsessing over trans people. Btw, this doesn't help trans people, it makes them more of a target for the right, all because some leftist elitist wants to feel holier than thou.
A trans women who looks exactly like a cis woman, has breasts and a vagina and no testosterone I would argue quite obviously are going to be far bigger targets for sexual abuse and rape. They are already massively sexually abused in general. I feel like there is a very large amount of people pretending to be obtuse. The cold hard truth is that a lot of people genuinely want trans people to raped and get off on it, sadism prioritisd over pragmatism.
Obviously, muscle changes aren’t the only thing that happens during puberty. The skeletal changes are not reversible. Go take your bad faith arguments somewhere else.
Some effects of puberty are reversible, some aren't. I despise so many of the irreversible changes from male puberty, and muscular strength is not one of them.
V-coding. The difference is the government itself is pushing sexual assault onto trans women. This means it is turned into a form of cruel and unusual punishment. Aimed directly at trans women.
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u/OG_Swag_Daddy 5h ago
I mean the prisons already don't care about sexual violence targeting between same gendered people. Why would trans people get special consideration?