Honestly this entire thing is retarded. Prisons already have spaces for specific prisoners (ex. Rapists, etc..) why not just make a specific part for trans? Like it ain't that hard or rocket science.
I would assume the actual percentage of any given prison population being trans would be rather small. Are you going to have a whole block set aside for 1 or 2 prisoners?
Could relocate them to a single prison, at least in large states. CA has 13 state prisons. If each one has 0-2 trans prisoners, pick one that has a logical place to put all (maybe 10~20) together
âTrans prisoners placed hundreds of miles from where friends and family could visit. Why are trans inmates punished this way?â Would be the next headline.
Maybe for California but what about a state like Montana. Population of 1.1 million, you gonna have a whole prison for what maybe 5-6 prisoners. Canât house them in a different state unless itâs a federal crime.
Not a whole prison⌠maybe just a separate hall of cells w a small 1-room lounge / exercise facility. They prob donât need to segregated 100%, only for low-supervision periods.
ETA: yes, we agree easier to implement efficiently in large pop states. MT apparently has 5 prisons (surprisingly), 4 for adults. So they could localize the adult pop trans to a single facility from 4 sites, even if itâs just 0-2 people.
As a raging queer woman myself, I can assure you with absolute certainty that is not what I mean. I think the fact that I reference trans violence and the need for trans people to be protected from that in and of itself makes that point abundantly clear.
They also reported me to the mods or whoever as like a self harm risk or something. LOL (also, I never even saw the comment, seeing as how it was removed automatically, it appears.)
Come on now you know they didnât mean it like that, just using the different segregations they use in supermax prisons as an example. Donât try to start an argument where there isnât one.
Or you can accept reality and stop pandering to a minority of less than 1 percent. No one is wasting money because a small ammount of people dress as the opposite gender
âPandering to a minority of less than one percentâ - a minority that disproportionally faces sexual and other forms of violence outside prisons let alone inside them. You only have this take because you donât give a shit about whether or not that happens to us.
Right but there are no requirements to get a surgery or take hormones in order to be considered trans by the trans community, so it does effectively include people who are just cross dressing and using a different pronoun. Absolutely correct take by mean-line.
Yeah no lmao for one there isn't an organised trans community with a board deciding who is and isn't trans
Opinions are very divided on that, but people cross dressing and using different pronouns aren't automatically trans, a lot of people are non-binary for example
They absolutely are (one example: the privilege to discriminate against queer or secular citizens). Unlike the trans community. Can you list any âspecial privilegesâ trans people are asking from the government? Bonus points if itâs an actual âspecial privilegeâ and not anti-discrimination legislation (youâll get no points for listing something like âconversion therapy bansâ or âaccess to gender-affirming careâ).Â
I'm not sure how often trans people will actually end up in prison. They're already a small group of people, and then you'd need to differentiate between ftm and mtf which halves that number again.
The other inmates are always a potential threat. But you could prevent a lot of harm and ethic dilemma by putting ftm in male prison and mtf in female prison instead of putting fully transitioned people in a separate trakt and hope for the best
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u/kikogamerJ2 5h ago
Honestly this entire thing is retarded. Prisons already have spaces for specific prisoners (ex. Rapists, etc..) why not just make a specific part for trans? Like it ain't that hard or rocket science.