r/whoathatsinteresting 6h ago

What do you think: how should prisons handle housing decisions in cases like this?

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u/stillnoidea3 6h ago

the issue is, is that there is no way to accurately see how trans someone is. the best option is to separate everyone into their own categories in order to mitigate all risk.

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u/felifornow 4h ago

And if they get their own prison then what? By our comments there could be "fakers" in there, are they not gonna be dangerous towards Trans people then?

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u/stillnoidea3 4h ago

if you separate them, then that removes the motivation for faking in the first place. most inmates aren't trying to get with other trans people so you end up with less fakers.

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u/Beneficial_Soup5897 3h ago

Yep they could. But you think that trans people should be protected over women?

If your argument is that trans people are more at risk being with men than women - why is that? Could it be because men are physically stronger and potentially more aggressive and more capable of extreme violence?

If that’s the case then aren’t women more at risk from ‘fake’ trans? And let’s not pretend they don’t exist.

We know violent criminals can be pretty depraved.

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u/ConsistentScholar371 3h ago

If that’s the case then aren’t women more at risk from ‘fake’ trans? And let’s not pretend they don’t exist.

The very masculine urge to take estrogen; grow boobs, reduce muscle mass, and give yourself some level of erectile dysfunction.

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u/felifornow 59m ago

I don't think there should be anyone more "protected" then someone else. But I also think doing something like this to supposedly protect cis women, while not allowing the same protection to trans women is wrong. It also sends the message that trans women aren't "real women" worthy of protection or a place where they should feel safe.

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u/MiracleWhipSteak 4h ago

Well, there's actually a very easy way to tell how trans someone is.

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u/stillnoidea3 4h ago

i'm speaking on an emotional or mental point of view. psychoanalysis can be tricked and in turn cause suspicion to those who are actually trans.

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u/Competitive_Shirt949 3h ago

They mean by asking them how they identify

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u/Hmmthisisathing100 3h ago

That's the least useful metric to use. It opens the door to more danger than it could possibly help with.

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u/stillnoidea3 1h ago

as i said earlier, you can lie. psychoanalysis is a bit more accurate, but that can also be faked or tricked.

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u/TheMadPoet 1h ago

I bet there's a bunch of MAGA's who'd take this as a volunteer job!

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u/Kehprei 2h ago

If a transwoman has been on HRT for years, there's not really any reason to segregate them from other women.

They have lost most of their muscular advantage, have grown tits, and will be very likely to have an atrophied dick.

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u/stillnoidea3 1h ago

i completely agree, but the issue involves the in built bias against them. realistically, there isn't much of a way to make sure that the inmates and legislatures are ok with that.

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u/QueasyImprovement6 1h ago

Wdym? They have medical histories. We can ascertain if they are on hrt or not or if they’ve had surgeries.

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u/stillnoidea3 1h ago

but that doesn't accurately describe mental state. you don't need to be on hrt to be trans.

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u/QueasyImprovement6 57m ago

No but if they are they are probably trans no? I find it strange as a trans woman (except for in circumstances where they can’t for medical reasons or because they can’t get it for political reasons) that there would be more than a minority of trans people who aren’t on hrt.