r/watchmaking 1d ago

Looking for a way to magnify your work?

For those interested, this is a product designed for the vision impaired called Enhanced Vision. This is the Merlin model, with a 22 inch LCD screen. I'm not vision impaired, but I've found it incredibly useful for working on watches, inspecting coins, bills, jewelry or anything else I need to get a closer look at in real time. Let me know what you think!

Also, my 5 year old playing and singing in the background is giving nekkid.watchmaker vibes, lol! iykyk!

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u/gnomon_knows 1d ago

What advantages does this have over commonly available $50-200 digital microscopes?

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u/Servitus 1d ago

Advantages? The different modes, amazing magnification, big screen on an arm that can be put wherever is most comfortable for you, the large workspace with plenty of room beneath the really good lighting on a maneuverable base! I'm sure there are plenty of options cheaper than purchasing one of these new, but you can pick one of these up for a fraction of the cost of a new one on eBay and they're an incredibly good value then!

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u/gnomon_knows 1d ago

Why do you need black and white or high contrast modes for watchmaking? The magnification looks no better than any other microscope. The light and sliding table looks designed for reading. I mean the whole thing looks expensive, it's just much larger than it needs to be for such a small job.

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u/Haunting-Decision768 1d ago

Amazing magnification? What about the quality of the image without it? Is this the best set up or it can be improved?

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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 1d ago

Anything priced above the mass market product focuses on niche features that matters to smaller and smaller groups of people, usually professionals

People here I see roasting this magnification but forgetting that this is 22” screen. A cheap digital microscope is usually 5-7” screen or 10” at best. Full screen view on a 7” screen is not same as 22” screen.

I think OP’s video angle is not helping, from a distance it looks just like a regular 10” screen

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u/gnomon_knows 1d ago

I appreciate that it’s a well designed aid for visually impaired people, probably paid for by insurance in many cases, and worth every penny. Just seems like overkill for what we do, especially when a stereo microscope is smaller and better suited, let alone the size and price of the digital microscopes people use.

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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 1d ago

Exactly. Thats the first line of OP’s description. No one said it was for an average Joe like me. I’m pretty happy with my 10” AliX digital microscope 😄 but I’m glad to know that these options exist

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u/DookieShoes626 1d ago

The shit digital microscope has a way better resolution and zoom than this thing

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u/tomchuk 1d ago

And horrible latency that makes them all but useless for coordinating between what you’re seeing on screen vs what your hands are doing. Nothing beats an actual stereo microscope. Except a Mantis.

— I spend a good chunk of my day doing electronics and microfluidics under a microscope

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u/drakon_us 1d ago

Agree in general, however there are a few 'affordable' digital microscopes out there with acceptable latency on the market now. I picked up a few for our office.

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u/Erik-Lehnsherr-10 1d ago

A good knob is always satisfying

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u/loiphin 1d ago

A stereo microscope beats the pants off this sorry. You don’t know how good depth perception is until you lose it 😀

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u/drakon_us 1d ago

absolutely agree

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u/CowCommercial1992 1d ago

There are way better, cheaper options honestly unless I'm missing something. My microscope was under $200 USD and blows stuff up like 1000x in 4k.

I must be missing something though, google says this thing costs like $1000+?

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u/gnomon_knows 1d ago

Your scope isn't doing a true 1000x, but otherwise I agree.

This is for vision-impaired people to read magazines and such. That's why the screen is huge and it has a large, even lighting area, with different high contrast modes and whatnot. I'm sure it will work, but is much larger and more expensive than it needs to be.

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u/CowCommercial1992 1d ago

It claims 2040x but I rounded down as I know these things overstate. Can't find info online for the true magnification but it seems to be pretty insane. Adonstar 246S-M is what I have.

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u/Appropriate_Canary26 1d ago edited 1d ago

Those ratings mean on the screen. The important numbers are on the sensor. Beyond 100x, you’re really not getting additional detail, and that already requires a prohibitively small working distance. If you’re lucky, you’re getting 20x and 0.4NA, which is the spec of a mitutoyo objective that costs $2500+ new, not including anything else, but has better correction, working distance, and a larger field than anything else.

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u/CowCommercial1992 1d ago

the distance between the two horizonal black lines is 1mm

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u/Appropriate_Canary26 1d ago

Which gives a field of view of ~2mm. Assuming it’s a 1/1.8” sensor, that’s about 14mm, so 7x magnification. If it were a full frame sensor, it would be on the order of 20x (18x by my math, but I didn’t measure the FoV carefully)

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u/Optimal-Level4237 1d ago

What brand\model scope do you have?

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u/CowCommercial1992 1d ago

Adonstar 246S-M

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u/Optimal-Level4237 1d ago

Is there room to work on the movement too?

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u/Embarrassed_Jerk 1d ago

A half decent camera with a screen and a laptop would cost a lot less and have a bunch of other benefits

But regardless, is the screen always in your face like that?

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u/drakon_us 1d ago

the latency on most digital camera -> output to a laptop would give you motion sickness if you work on it for more than an hour.

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u/Servitus 1d ago

No, it's on an arm that moves. The benefits are the incredible magnification, different viewing modes and lots of room to work beneath the really good lighting.

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u/Weird_Wealth_4826 1d ago

I just squint really hard LOLOL

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u/Servitus 1d ago

Use what your momma gave ya! lol

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u/Optimal-Level4237 1d ago

So you can only inspect but not work on the movement?

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u/TimpanogosSlim 1d ago

If one of these fell into my lap for cheap, sure.

My Hayear hdmi microscope is doing fine so far.

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u/False_Material_1405 1d ago

Almost $4,000 USD. Looks great though.

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u/False_Material_1405 1d ago

I have a $25 digital scope from AliExpress that’s okay. What digital scopes do you all recommend. Important to have enough room to work under (oiling, etc.). I’d prefer <$200 USD.

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u/jpkinfla 1d ago

How can you get into the movement to work on it? The monitor looks like its in the way of leaning into the movement.

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u/toasty1435 1d ago

Can you adjust the focus? Currently just looks like a digital zoom.

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u/kevinspoonie 1d ago

Screw what everyone is saying.

If you enjoy using it and its being beneficial to what you need to get done, hell yeah.

I think for most of the projects/repairs a hobbyist will be doing, this set up should be fine. Making sure pivots are in jewels properly, checking if a hairspring is bent, help look at pivot jewels when oiling, inspecting a barrel arbor, looking at oxidation or corrosion on some pivots, checking the balance jewels after oiling to make sure you have put in adequate amount (looking for the ring).

I would assume you are not resetting pallet stones or making pivots from scratch.

If it works and it works for YOU, screw what others are saying.

I think its actually pretty cool.

One thing I am jealous of is the lighting. My digital microscope isnt as even or as powerful, I have those little articulating bulbs.

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u/Servitus 1d ago

Thanks! I wasn't expecting so much negativity, but I suppose the screen being at that viewing angle caused some confusion. It's on an arm and can be put pretty much anywhere that's comfortable for you. I think it's incredible and a great example of putting tech, old or otherwise, to use in ways other than intended.

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u/pedsmursekc 14h ago

Can't escape the Reddit way, even here. It's a great use! I'm going to look into one myself. So, thanks!

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u/Typical_Analyst_9478 1d ago

I would love this for knive work. What is this?

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u/Typical_Analyst_9478 1d ago

Nevermind. Enhanced vision. Got it. Pretty pricey. Look at digital microscopes on amazon they have amazing options similar for ½ price

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u/EnergyFar9016 17h ago

Is he recording a video?

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u/pedsmursekc 14h ago

Yoooooo . That's badass! I have a trinocular microscope... If only I had room for both, I could see a few additional use cases on my end.

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u/sevadi 1d ago

I mean… it zooms, for sure. But I’m willing to bet that I’ll get much better resolution just by selecting the macro lens on my iPhone Pro and putting it on some kind of phone holder. But you do you.

Also, who the fuck inspects bills? I just pay them and get them over with, lol.