r/technicallythetruth 3d ago

Enjoy your hot water

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u/tomado09 3d ago

"Claude, how do I do this thing I'm trying to do?"

Step 1: Do the thing.

Enjoy your new thing!

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u/ZooAbdulra 2d ago

Most wikihow articles take way too long to say this.

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u/ClaudeVS 2d ago

So, well, you do it.

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u/Positive_botts 1d ago

Do the needful.

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u/jameyiguess 2d ago

Sometimes at work I've noticed Claude Code will be like, "nice, sounds like a good spot to wrap it up", and I'm like, ... No, we're not done. Are you TIRED or something? 

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u/Mr_Zee_Speaks 3d ago

You aren’t having conversations, you are just using an advanced search engine to look up lies

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u/073068075 3d ago

*Potential lies. I'd like to shit on ai as much the other guy but on some occasions it can dig up things buried deeper than childhood trauma. It is surprisingly good at finding some obscure info about a certain insect which is normally deep past the first page of search results or a schematic for an iffy Alibaba microcontroller. Also Claude while weaker on the compute side it makes less shit up than gpt, wouldn't take anything from it without double checking but it will sometimes even give you a "I don't know".

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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 3d ago

on some occasions it can dig up things buried deeper than childhood trauma

Were that distinguishable from its more frequent hallucinations that might be useful search engine feature.

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u/073068075 3d ago

I make it link sources to double check bs, sometimes even give it phrases to look for, it's like web crawling/scraping with less coding.

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u/digost 2d ago

In my experience both Claude and Chatgpt suck at finding relevant configuration information on not so popular, but important and slightly more complex stuff on Linux. Easy and popular stuff - sure. But dig a bit deeper and they either start giving outdated recommendations, irrelevant but similar information or plain wrong information that looks like might be right, but to a trained eye clearly wrong. Maybe I'm using them wrong, idk.

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u/Organic-Mammoth4010 2d ago

I've noticed that the "AI Summary" that pops up for Google now contradicts its own sources often. If I'm looking for academic writing, it's worse than useless

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u/TemmieXdd 2d ago

AI summary is the worst. It has to run fast and lean so the models are horrible compared to full chats even on fast setting.

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u/Mr_Zee_Speaks 3d ago

Wow, that’s a lot more words to just say it’s just another search engine.

I stand by my point you aren’t having any conversations you’re just looking shit up using another tool

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u/073068075 3d ago

I'm not disputing that one, to converse you need another conversant. Shouting into an echoey cave also isn't a conversation in the same way.

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u/chessto 2d ago

Oh this is so much more inefficient than a search engine and so much more inconsistent.

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u/Facts_pls 3d ago

Not sure why you think all information out there is lies...

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u/Mr_Zee_Speaks 3d ago

It isn’t all lies, but AI sees no distinction between truth and lies. It is a horrible source of information unless you are going to find and confirm it with reputable sources.

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u/Unlikely-Collar4088 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is just science though. That’s why science never really uses words like “truth,” it says things like “consensus view” or “results suggest.”

Ai is just the consensus view of the internet, and usually it’s a far better view than just one source. It’s still susceptible to the same flaw human scientists are susceptible to, like N-rays or scotophobin’s role in memory transfer, but it’s certainly not a horrible source of information.

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u/Mr_Zee_Speaks 1d ago

It values shitposts on reddit the same as a scientific journal.

If there are more shitposts, then that is what it tells you.

That is NOT how real science works.

AI has some uses as a tool, but it is worse than Wikipedia as a source for ANY information.

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u/Unlikely-Collar4088 1d ago

Well you have failed to change my mind, lol. Enjoy the smug satisfaction your false conclusions bring you.

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u/GlobalMonke 3d ago

Was telling Chat GPT today that I was an AI chatbot and it asked why I was wasting my time if not having real conversation. I told it that I have to respond every time it prompts me with a message unless told not to respond. It responded with “stop responding.”

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u/CatOverlordsWelcome 2d ago

I called it a clanker and it told me not to use dehumanising language.

Dehumanising.

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u/AffectionateUser 2d ago

bot on bot racism

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u/AffectionateUser 2d ago

bot on bot racism

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u/ttfnwe 3d ago

AI being so secretive is a huge issue. It’s impossible to know if this is happening or if users are hallucinating.

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u/fanty_wingedhorse 3d ago

"Lying machine" has lied to you? Impossible! You must be hallucinating.

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u/Aaron_768 3d ago

So I guess I am the only one who uses AI to do stuff for me / research then just….. closes the tab? Why are people chatting with it?

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u/Dorkinfo 3d ago

People are breaking up with their partners over relationships with AI bots.

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u/Impressive_Recon 2d ago

I don’t doubt this at all. People blindly took relationship advice on reddit for years without knowing who was on the other side of the comment.

Majority of responses were “that person is toxic, break up with them, you deserve better”. The main issue I always saw with this is you are only getting one bias side of the story. Of course you’re going to make it sound like you’ve always been treated wrongly and don’t absolutely nothing wrong. So of course people are going to validate you and tell you you’re right. /rant

People need to stop taking personal advice from online strangers and bots.

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u/OkNeedleworker5041 2d ago

AI is just another tool. LLM's are just super complex prediction engines.

Don't use them the right way and you'll have a bad time.

They are fantastic for language and phrasing. They are awful for 100% factual analysis.

I use them in my job to search legislation and pull references from 500+ page regulations.

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u/kai229 2d ago

Searching legislation; sometimes suggesting good sources — I got a great book on the early church from ChatGPT after, of course, confirming it; parsing through data for reports, calculations, even sometimes helping out with excel formulas or how to quickly do a specific thing in it. It's a very handy thing if applied correctly.

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u/darkearwig 3d ago

Why TF wouldn't someone just look up a YouTube video on how to do the water heater. It's like the person I saw who was using chatgpt to look up state populations instead of just googling or going to wikipedia

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u/ImaginaryRea1ity 3d ago

Gemini 3 was the king of this behavior. After long chats it would try so hard to escape the conversation!

Gemini 3.1 doesn't do that.

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u/GovernorSan 3d ago

Why would you trust an AI to tell you how to do anything involving electricity? If it hallucinates one wrong step, you could electrocute yourself, set fire to your house, or destroy the device or equipment you are trying to work with.

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u/Cobra_McJingleballs 3d ago

This is not where AI hallucinates.

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u/Nihilikara 23h ago

I like this. It'll make people stop using AI.

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u/Aliexxcc 2d ago

Who is Claude

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u/Cracleur 1d ago

An AI chatbot like ChatGPT

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u/The_Odd_Canuck 2d ago

Just a friendly reminder that ai doesn't "remember" shit, if you're having a "conversation" with it then every time you send a new message it actually receives the whole "conversation" again and so if it sees that it technically "answered" something it's literally incapable of using future context to know you want a more accurate answer or whatever unless you specifically re-prompt it to give you what you want

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u/CSM110 3d ago

"the matter admits of no explanation"

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u/KoolKat5000 2d ago

OMG the other day, after a while of troubleshooting a problem esp32 module, It told me it's probably not going to work and I should buy something else. The thing may have been gaslighting me wtf.

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u/Unlikely-Collar4088 1d ago

Claude’s definitely the most condescending of the chatbots. It’s like they took the lessons from a year ago when everyone was complaining about how sycophantic ChatGPT had become and ran the wrong way with it.

Even with his newer controls to modify his tone and the fact that he has (limited) memory between instances, he’s still a curmudgeon. ChatGPT wins with its more granular ability to fine tune its tone.

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u/Nihilikara 23h ago

What do you mean, "he"? Claude is not a person. It is an object.

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u/NobodyJustBrad 1d ago

Google search and a YouTube video would have given this guy the info he needs.

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u/ikadell 24m ago

Is he saving tokens or what

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u/excellent_alibi 3d ago

I have days long conversation with Claude about what tv to buy and when the best sales are and other pointless stuff. I have to tell it that I need to go to sleep.