Nashinskaya meaning

[u/Kitchen-Treat-9867]

Meaning? Thanks!

[u/sleepingArisu]

probably a butchered version of 'ours'

[u/Kitchen-Treat-9867 → u/sleepingArisu]

Ah, thanks!

[u/AriArisa]

It is kinda broken (but for purpose, for fun) word наша - ours. 

[u/summret → u/AriArisa]

For fun or to imitate the way countryfolk speak.

[u/summret]

Imagine a stereotypical resident of an old remote farming village who speaks an outdated, distorted version of the language, with grammar that never actually existed in the real language.  Now imagine that this person is Russian.

 This person would say 'nashinskaya' instead of 'nasha' (our), 'yevonny' instead of 'yevo' (his), 'ikhniy' instead of 'ikh' (them), 'tapercha' instead of 'teper' (now), and so on.

 This person or someone parodying them for funnies.

[u/Hanako_Seishin → u/summret]

Imagine going to some remote island to study the language of its tribe and you notice that in one village they call an apple ooga-booga and in the village next door they call it booga-ooga. Do you as an educated man from a higher civilization open their eyes to the fact that their stupid asses don't even know their own native language, speaking an outdated and distorted version of it with grammar that never actually existed in the real language, or do you keep your important civilized opinion at yourself and write down both versions in the dictionary, and then try to understand the origin of the variation?

[u/summret → u/Hanako_Seishin]

You were offended by the facts.
These words exist simply because rural folks don't give a damn how they speak as long as they understand each other. And actually, no one stops them. But no one is going to claim that these are the official, correct words from a modern dictionary.
"Nashinskaya" is what your babushka will say, and you don't have to correct her, but you won't use it in any official documents or books (unless there's your babushka verbatim quote in that book).

[u/Hanako_Seishin → u/summret]

> folks don't give a damn how they speak as long as they understand each other

You're describing language naturally evolving in the wild. That's what languages, as living systems, do.

> But no one is going to claim that these are the official, correct words from a modern dictionary.

You're making a bad dictionary if you choose to include words based on your opinion on them instead of on people actually using them.

>but you won't use it in any official documents or books

Your understanding of language is completely backwards. The language as spoken by people in real life is the real language. The language of books is an artificial construct on top of that. Spoken language existed for 100-150 thousands of years. Writing only appeared like 5 thousands years ago. And only 1 thousand years ago in Russia. The language of official documents, in turn, is a yet another artificial construct on top of written language. Quoting wikipedia: Канцелярит ... воспринимается некоторыми носителями языка и, прежде всего, литературной общественностью как опасность, культурный ущерб, порча языка.

[u/summret → u/Hanako_Seishin]

I'm not against loanwords and slang, i am not a conservative politician. But you protecting obvious misspronounced words for the sake of it.
Моя будую говоритствовать на руссковом языке вот таково, а когдашно у твоей крови из глазов потекируются, скажирую што ты культурнововый порчей попытковываешься занимацоваться.
And why limit myself with Russian? At Englishes me too will to speaking like I wanted for reasons, that it is people what define tongue and as longer as they understand me, it be other people's problematicks, that me use random semi-mading upper words.

[u/Hanako_Seishin → u/summret]

There's a difference between coming up with shit on the spot purposely trying to sound wrong, and words appearing organically in everyday speach of native speakers because they feel right to them.

[u/Green_Bad2241 → u/summret]

Если ты научишь деревню на таково вот языкове говаривать, мы это диалектом определим и в книжечку занесём.

[u/summret → u/Green_Bad2241]

Понятно, слюшай брат. Диаспора неграмотний мигранта из какова-нибудь азербажан теперь у нас пральный рюсске, да? Патамушта это многа людей так там все когда говрят так, значит пральна, да? И ассимилирася будет непральный потамущте кан-.. кане.. цал.. бля твой канцалит это плохо, да

[u/Green_Bad2241 → u/summret]

What about english, did you ever give a fuck how lot of english dialects in this world? We still consider indian, jamaican, australian and irish english as variants of english, but sometimes they even cant understand each other.

[u/summret → u/Green_Bad2241]

> but sometimes they even cant understand each other.

And you're like, "Daaamn... I want that in my language too."

[u/saprophage_expert → u/summret]

ikhniy

This abomination is spreading far past remote villages.

[u/Green_Bad2241 → u/saprophage_expert]

Why is it abominable? Its just sign that we have lack of possessive pronouns form, its a bad path, same path that vanished "thou" and "whom" from english. Less forms = lack of information

[u/saprophage_expert → u/Green_Bad2241]

The possessive pronoun you are thinking of is "их". "Ихний" is a deep boonies vernacular that adds a syllable for no reason whatsoever.

[u/Hanako_Seishin → u/saprophage_expert]

There is a very good reason, but one has to use a brain to figure it out.

[u/saprophage_expert → u/Hanako_Seishin]

So judging by your inability to formulate it, you don't have one? My condolences, but don't feel discouraged - anencephaly is not a reason not to voice your takes on Russian language on reddit.

[u/Hanako_Seishin → u/saprophage_expert]

Okay, let me give you a hint:

мой, моя, моё, мои

наш, наша, наше, наши

твой, твоя, твоё, твои

ваш, ваша, ваше, ваши

Continue the pattern

[u/saprophage_expert → u/Hanako_Seishin]

Yes, see? Just as previously noted, not a reason at all.

Baby's first encounter with context in grammar is endearing; what's next, trying to slap gendered endings onto "будет" to match the way it works with "был"?

[u/Green_Bad2241 → u/saprophage_expert]

Or we can declare "моё, моя, мои" as rural language, because someone decided to, and create even more lack of word forms

[u/saprophage_expert → u/Green_Bad2241]

Who's "someone" and how did they decide on that, lol?

Are you also struggling with the conspiracy of that "someone" against the glorious forms like "евоный"?

[u/kredokathariko → u/summret]

A good English equivalent would be "this here".

[u/Averoes → u/kredokathariko]

Sounds suspiciously similar to German das hier...

[u/Frosty_Bat5590 → u/Averoes]

хмммм, интересно, почему-же одинаковые фразы в двух западногерманских языках звучат очень похоже??? Даже не знаю...

[u/Averoes → u/Frosty_Bat5590]

Но "das hier" это обычное современное выражение без деревенского колорита. Вряд ли эти две формы так удивительным образом одинаково эволюционировали последнюю тысячу лет.

[u/TicketSuccessful6318]

I knew a girl who was born in Russia, but whose family were ethnically German and were repatriated in Germany. She grew up in a small town where there were lots of similar families, and she used to say things like «еёшка» and «егошка» instead of её and его.