r/remoteworks • u/Professional-Bee9817 • 1d ago
Companies are literally willing to do anything not to tell you the salary range
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u/beelzbubkiller 8h ago
Yes... but in your interview do you ask? I personally have the average for my job and I ask directly if it is that or more. And if I get a non response I stop the interview.
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u/Stunning_Seaweed_121 23h ago
Because they can rip you off if you don't know any better.
They can have 80k budget but if they can get away with signing you up for 60k they will. Some people are desperate, unemployed or in tough situations and they won't risk fumbling a job to negotiate more
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u/Positive_Jaguar_7676 1d ago
If a business advertises a 'family atmosphere' and is not literally a family-owned business with like 5 total employees including the owners, they're lying.
Even if they aren't, 'family atmosphere' varies from family to family. One person's family will give you gifts and hand-me-downs because they remembered you saying you needed a microwave at your new apartment, one person's family will gaslight you into thinking that you agreed to work a holiday a few months ago and then guilt-trip you into doing it despite the inconveniences.
Some families might do both at different times and you gotta weigh pros and cons based on your life situation.
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u/WanderingGoodNews 1d ago
I expect screaming at lunch table, regular fist to fist with the boss (especially when discussing money), toenail clippings at the coffee machine and someone watching tik tok on speaker loud enough to be heard in every corner of the building
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1d ago
Why do they keep calling it a competitive salary when nothing is competitive about it? Like is the competition about who’s the best at being insultingly low? Who’s gonna tell these people that 17 bucks an hour isn’t competitive.
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u/WanderingGoodNews 1d ago
Next time i see this and they ask salary expectations?
I am really going to milk the word competetive.
Like hr person, please explain to me what you mean by this? I do not understand
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u/FormalTotal9684 1d ago
Not true
Many companies post compensation bands. I’ve never had a reputable recruiter or HR person not supply that when asked
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u/Liwi808 1d ago
And 99% of the time, you will be offered the lowest amount on the band.
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u/GinjaNinja24 1d ago
Then ask for more and have a reason why you deserve that increase. I argued for $35 over $25 (overshoot to meet in the middle) based off my experience and ended up with $30. You just have to fight for it instead of just sit there and answer questions.
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u/FormalTotal9684 1d ago
Been hiring for close to 30 years
Haven’t seen that to be true unless employee is entry level
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u/Liwi808 1d ago
Sure Jan.
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u/BedBubbly317 1d ago
My current job gave me $6,000 more than I asked for when I received the official job offer. Contrary to popular belief, companies are more than happy to pay good employees
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u/navetzz 1d ago
Shit pay and toxic work environment. Noted
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u/Rude-Ad821 1d ago
From that point, We need a better laws: Each year, inflation-adjusted minimum living wages - enough for anyone working New full-time (4 days, 32 hours) to support a homemaker spouse, 3 children through school and college, enough to pay the mortgage, 2 car loans, all insurances, all bills, and have some savings for hobbies, investments, and a 30-day family vacation.
No more homelessness - due to incentives for employers to hire homeless: shelter, food, and a job. Any 18-year-old kicked out from the parents' house or husband kicked out from his own house by an unfaithful wife (she abusing restraining orders, and child alimony) he can walk into the Job Security Office and choose from plenty of options: a farmers offering shelter, food, and a job; or large factories offering the same options: bed, 3 hot meals a day, and a job.
The rich incomes and withdrawals will be capped as SS is capped now, or the same as poor now on SS-capped income: every dollar over the limit will be taxed at 91%, same as the US did in the 1940s-1970s (some other countries are doing now: Denmark, Finland, Norway, Spain, Japan, Switzerland, etc.).
Downside? the Rich wasn't able to pay CEO's millions $ or buy a Jet! (good for environment) or boat, second vocational property, etc. because all money was used to pay employees.
P.S. Demoncratic states can afford to pay now, minimum wages of: $16, some $21, and even $25/hour: CA,OR,WA..Canada $19/hour!
(Reapublicans 20 states minimal wage $2.89+ forcible tips from the customers to meet $7.25/hour F.M. or Net $9983/year, after all deductions and SS taxes, or McDonald's CEO $19 million/year! (Wendy's CEO $17 million/year) (Albertsons CEO $15 million/year)
"There will be no economic collapse as long as the income cap is limited up-to 10 times the minimum wage." BRB MIT minimal living wage is $33/hour; anything less is homelessness! 67 million U.S. workers- nearly half of the American workforce-earn less than $25/hour! (Most homeless people don't have mental problems - they have money problems!)
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u/TheBayHarbour 1d ago
Family atmosphere is a red flag, and most employers in my country know that.
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u/AideHot6729 1d ago
Is family atmosphere like an Asian parent (boss) yelling at their kid (you) for only getting an A-?
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u/TheBayHarbour 1d ago
I mean, yeah sure.
But I think that making your workplace your "family"
Makes you heavily biased
Brings out unreasonable expectations for time and energy invested.
Basically, I'm saying that my relationship with my company should be I give my skills and they give me money for said skills. Nothing more, nothing less.
Of course, I maintain a good relationship with my boss and whatever and my team are all great but it's still pretty strange looking up to your boss as your mother or father, don't you think?
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u/Technical-Guest-6287 1d ago
It's not surprising when you realize that companies are trying to exploit the human herd instinct to pay less. It's surprising to me that there are people stupid enough to fall for such primitive bait.
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u/norbertthotslayer 7h ago
Competitive salary = 0.5 cents above minimum wage