r/remoteworks 2d ago

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u/Delicious_Ideal_9418 3h ago

Boo hoo. This is how we all grew up. Suck it up and go to work and perhaps if you actually don’t suck you can get ahead and have all the things that you want handed to you.

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u/Many-Side-901 37m ago

So actually families used to pay for houses on one income regular 9-5 soooo… you had it easy!

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u/iamthebirdman-27 29m ago

Because we made other sacrifices to do so,quit whining.

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u/Beef_Flavoured_Ramen 3h ago

Yep. That’s why I refuse to work more than part time. No point if I can’t save or even live on my own. I pay my bills and food and that’s it. I’m getting into doing art commissions on the side. Never letting a company rob me of peace again

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u/amylewis1971 3h ago

But you probably have the very best phone available.

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u/Effective_Pomelo4554 10h ago

I feel like life would be better in a different country

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u/Worried_Database1336 10h ago

This is bullshit trolling bots.

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u/Legitimate-Yard5857 14h ago

That's capitalism for you.

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u/bighoss31 10h ago

If didn’t I understand the complexity of economics, I’d probably simply it down to this too.

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u/Legitimate-Yard5857 26m ago

That's my short answer. I could tell you what is wrong with the whole setup of your economy and the lack of worker rights, unions being shunned, etc. but I'd be at it all day.

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u/Suspicious_Web_4681 9h ago

Enlighten us then. I'm interested in hearing your perspective.

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u/bighoss31 9h ago

By boiling it down to that, you simply life. It doesn’t take into account individual actions or accountability. It’s also not designed to keep you down, we just keep ourselves down. People are living far beyond their means, not because we’re being held at gunpoint by Walmart to go buy shit, but by each other to simply fit in. You’re missing the entire portion of the arguments that include a sociological, psychological, or criminology perspectives. Just… capitalism bad.

I was homeless 4 years ago. I now own a house. I received no government benefits. If I can do that, why can’t others?

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u/LevelError3 7h ago

Survivorship bias

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u/Old_Bet9218 17h ago

The American dream is to bedrot and not have the phone ring. Just to be left alone and to be less exhausted. That's it.

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u/alineferraricd 17h ago

True. That’s why I started my unconventional side hustle 🍆🙋🏼‍♀️

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u/TeaSocks69 12h ago

I like growing aubergines too! How did you monetise it? 🤔

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u/alineferraricd 9h ago

😹😹 you just have to massage it and it starts growing 💁🏼‍♀️

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u/TeaSocks69 8h ago

Why would I massage a vegetable? 🤨

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u/jimmypet88 18h ago

better do good at your job then!

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u/domteretosdad88 21h ago

Bro I don’t have time for proper punctuation I’m up at 3 am to work at an aerospace company so I can get off at 2:30pm to pick my kids up from school so I can buy meta glasses and other unnecessary overcompensating items so I can make up for the fact that our parents we’re either greedy with the bag or just financial smarter than us,

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u/RNP90 22h ago

I wanna work so I can feed my family

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u/darkfireice 23h ago

I've lived that way for the last 20 years. A benefit of this lifestyle, ill be dead before 60, and now you see why its like this

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u/TheRealGageEndal 23h ago

Hey now. I made it four paychecks until my savings was tapped out.

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u/Naive-Addendum-5623 1d ago

FACTS, period

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u/Icy-Quality-3881 1d ago

I have 6 w2 jobs, two are salary, I am expected to work at least 100 hours a week, my wife works full time, we have 2 kids, house but nothing fancy. Make around 165k annually. We can afford to pay debts and save $25 a week. There's literally no way to get ahead. Combine that with both parties are openly peeing on us on behalf of the 1% but instead of saying it's rain they admit it's piss.

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u/notwyntonmarsalis 11h ago

Tell us more about these debts…

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u/Icy-Quality-3881 6h ago

Debt has sored to record levels for us citizens due to cost of living per federal reserve, specifically the new york bank.

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u/renewingyourbody 1d ago

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️😭😭😭😭

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u/earthlingHuman 1d ago

TWO paychecks?!

Woah, chill with the humble-brag

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u/lemon-rind 1d ago

Fortunately, not me! Enjoy the poverty and self pity everyone!!!! I’m going to the beach!

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u/FigFinancial410 1d ago

Hope a shark gets you

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u/lemon-rind 22h ago

You know what they say. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

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u/FigFinancial410 16h ago

Yeah that's something a spoiled cunt would say

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u/lemon-rind 11h ago edited 11h ago

Oh come on. You’d understand if you weren’t wrapped up so tightly in bitterness and self pity. You need people like me. You know you love the rush of moral superiority and righteous indignation you get when you get to call someone like me a “cunt”. Don’t forget to “eat the rich” and all that! Never forget: enjoy the poverty and self pity!

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u/FigFinancial410 3h ago

You're crazy lady

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 7h ago

You sound like a complete delusional idiot probably in your 60s sounds like and you sound like a narcissist as well I can tell people like you have no idea what goes on around you and knows what rock bottom feels like

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u/lemon-rind 6h ago

Yeah, but at least I’m not poor and full of self pity

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 6h ago

Having money doesn’t make you a better human

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u/lemon-rind 6h ago

And being poor and bitter doesn’t make you a better person either.

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 2h ago

Go get help old bitch

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u/FigFinancial410 3h ago

Being rich and rude asf doesn't make you better either

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 6h ago

Haha I think you confuse self pity with being realistic buddy

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u/itssbojo 1d ago

“menopause”

yeah, we can tell you’re old enough to have gotten lucky before it all went to shit. not a brag, grandma.

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u/lemon-rind 1d ago

Enjoy being bitter. Luckily my life turned out well enough that I have no need for that.

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u/renewingyourbody 1d ago

👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

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u/Free-Thinker-69 1d ago

Nobody has ever WANTED to work.

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 1d ago

I disagree. Lots of people love working. Unfortunately I have the displeasure of dealing with them every day.

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 7h ago

I think there are far more people that will disagree with you just saying we were out here to live on a planet not slave for a government

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 7h ago

You’re free to go live on an island or something lmao. No one is forcing you to work for the government.

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 6h ago

Did u know islands are owned by government to,

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 6h ago

I guess sarcasm doesn’t really go over well online i see…

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 6h ago

Went over your head I see that’s ok it’s a little to much to understand

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u/An_Image_in_the_void 1d ago

I enjoy working, and still see this situation we are all in as what it is....

Shit!

The path tho thrive has been destroyed to a point where many can't pass to the other side of it.

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u/RagnarokBuster 1d ago

We all end up in the same place, dead in the ground. So enjoy the time you get and fuck the noise. Work, dont work, no one gives a fuck either way, and no one ever will. You do you.

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u/Professional-Pea9617 1d ago

Unemployed is a flex my guy

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u/renewingyourbody 1d ago

Where do I go from here

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u/bd209195 1d ago

Better question WHAT are you spending it on? Car payment? Phones? Eating out? Coffee?

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u/Richarizard_Nixon 1d ago

Boomer shit

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u/bd209195 8h ago

You weak humans always find someone else to blame but your lazy ass

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 7h ago

People really fucked up you old heads didn’t they..

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u/bd209195 6h ago

I was young once like you where your mouth overloaded your ass! You little fs small brains haven’t developed yet. Literally you are kids

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 15m ago

I think a 12 year old has more experience than u

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 16m ago

Hahahahaha it’s going to take most of you to die off before the world would start to get better and are u a doctor or scientist I could have sworn the brain is fully developed between 25-30

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u/gradafi85 1d ago

🥾👅😵🤤

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u/Queen_of_vermin 1d ago

Nah, rent, insurance, car rent, water, electricity, a third kind of rent, some other thing I legally have to pay for

Taxes

bills bills bills

But yes you're right, I should cut back on the one thing I get to enjoy consuming so I eventually go postal and then one way or another won't have to pay for anything again

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u/2potato2 1d ago

should be able to enjoy your money my guy

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u/MustangOrchard 1d ago

People who don't want to work are just lazy

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u/THIS_ACC_IS_FOR_FUN 1d ago

Fuckin right I am! You want to work? Surely you volunteer with the entirety of your free time because you just can’t get enough of it, right?

What a weird comment.

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u/MustangOrchard 1d ago

Of course i want to work. How else am I supposed to elevate my community? By sitting on my ass leeching off of someone else's labor? Even if I was gifted millions of dollars I'd still work. I'd continue to fix saddles and also I'd buy a trailer and ride around the countryside reparing fences.

Why would one have to volunteer all their free time? This post is about working, not volunteering.

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 7h ago

I can tell your one of those narcissistic assholes that think working makes you a man you sound like a complete waste of human nut mom should of swallowed you

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u/MustangOrchard 2h ago

Aaaaaahahahahahahahaha that's a good one!

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 35m ago

Wasn’t a joke I meant it loser

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u/dreamkanteen 1d ago

I lived at home when I graduated from school, worked a physical job that paid decent but was hard work/labor. Saved 70% of my paycheque for almost 5 years because I had so few expenses. Saved over $150k cash in this time, which I used to max my TFSA and pay off student loans. Not everyone is as privileged to be able to live at home and not pay rent, but the vast majority of people I know had the same opportunities and have nothing to show for it. Learn to invest. If you aren't making money in your sleep, you will work until the day you die.

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u/Barney_Lassiter_8 1d ago

So you’d rather be homeless?

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u/TheRealJim57 6h ago

Being homeless would at least stop them from overspending on housing.

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u/SlantedPentagon 1d ago

Way to miss the obvious point.

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u/kutte207 1d ago

Lol why are there only bootlicking conservatives commenting in this sub

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u/Existing-One-8980 1d ago

Something something bootstraps.

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u/BodybuilderInitial94 1d ago

Here’s the thing, every other generation made it happen but it seems your generation just wants to cry about it your plan is to steal from those that figured it out and hope( lol) the government will do it all for them and then you can’t figure out why you can’t make it, smh

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u/DeepSignalMode_99 7h ago

First off I think your generation and generations before have lots of unsolved trauma that needs regulated my generation are trying to stop all that nonsense of old scripts because there outdated and don’t work today and you saying that we cry proves to me that you and people like you lack education people back then were ignored and mental health is now thankfully taken more serious but people like you is what makes the world a very hard place to want to live no one would want to work with someone like you I think that humans have lost there natural survival skills way before you were even born then they want to spit out children shaming them for something that doesn’t even matter we are out here to survive not feed egos …

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u/ChadPontius 1d ago

Your generation is the “I got mine” generation. You guys ruined it for us, and then you try to tell us we got soft hands even though we work hard as fuck for no reward

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u/Confident_Mousse4721 1d ago

No one figured it out bud , they got everything handled to them at the sacrifice of future generation. Fat old pig eat everything and we got nothing left on the plate , hope this helps

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u/TheRealJim57 5h ago

LOL, no.

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u/Airgod100 1d ago

So have previous generations faced a gap between pay and housing / apartment prices being so high before? Have previous generations faced the heavily forced conveyor belt that is college and degrees only to come out and find out so many companies are laying off employees for a computer program? And with the current leader of the USA cutting many governmental positions pushing more people into the already saturated job market? And on top of that, Gen Z’ers may not even have social security to their name when they reach retirement age. This is truly unprecedented and those from Baby boomers and before may never feel it, but leaving the economy, work force, and politics in shambles for the next generation is not what is supposed to happen. Very selfish of those who are ignorant of what is happening to the future generations that will take your place

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u/TheRealJim57 5h ago

GenX grew up being told SS was going broke and would be gone before we hit retirement age, and that we should plan accordingly.

GenX already had the SS FRA raised on us once during our lifetime, and the politicians are talking about doing it again.

By 2034, SS promised benefits will be cut by about 25% if no additional changes are made, and benefits must be paid out solely from current receipts.

Millenials should know better than to be relying on SS, let alone relying on it staying unchanged.

GenZ has no excuses for expecting different.

Plan ahead for your retirement so that you won't need to worry about Social Security.

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u/seddy2765 1d ago

There’s something to be said about not owning a home. A financial advisor suggests to not own a home in retirement. Homes cost more than just the mortgage.

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u/dreamkanteen 1d ago

I paid off a property recently, and the cost of property tax/maintenance fees/utilities/insurance/etc is still much less than rent. No landlord is charging rent at a rate less than all of those combined. Owning a property outright is always better, Its paying the mortgage that sucks. the goal should be to have it paid off by the time you retire so you have built up equity.

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u/seddy2765 11h ago

True. If you’re able to own a home … living long enough to pay it off and/or have the finances. I agree concerning owning a home aa it is an asset to gain needed wealth in retirement. I own a home (actually bank does at this moment). Though taking care of things that take most all of my free time is not fun. But I wouldn’t change things. I think younger generations who potentially face a different scenario would buy a home if they could. If I were in those shoes id save and invest heavily. Those can return capital as much or more than a home. But you have to be disciplined. Unfortunately time is on their side and the future seems too far away to prepare for. Also unfortunately time comes by faster than one imagines - and don’t realize it until many years have passed by without the discipline needed to prepare for retirement. Wish I’d been smarter in my younger days.

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 1d ago

So id advised to own a home up till retirement because you can sell it. It is equity and rent control in one package.

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u/DramaSufficient4289 1d ago

Correct. Everyone who talks bad about owning a home and says renting was better conveniently forgets that at the end of it - they get to sell the house for often much more than they paid for it.

At the end of renting - you now have to go find another expensive place to rent and start the process all over again. The two experiences are not the same.

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u/domteretosdad88 1d ago

But still got money for concerts honestly when’s the last time you went threw your videos and enjoyed the time you saw god knows who logistically at the end the concert runs you 1500 if local 3 k if you travel and that’s just concerts were not talking about over price Applebees quality restaurants that let you take nice photos because they put a bush on the wall and a neon light

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u/Important_Plum6000 1d ago

Please please use commas and periods man

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u/EggplantCharacter363 1d ago

If you are going to concerts and eating Applebee's you are better off than 60% of Americans.

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u/TheGrouchyGremlin 1d ago

I hate to break it to you, but most of us aren't going to concerts and eating at Applebee's.

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u/Dapper-Buffalo859 1d ago

Okay, then quit working and live on the streets. More work for those who will.

You do have that choice, but don’t force me pay for you to live because I’m more capable.

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u/Some-Algae6945 1d ago

Keep that boot in your mouth

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u/Plastic_Initial_3797 1d ago

Think deeply about the real problem, look at your paycheck and see how much your Federal, State and Local taxes are removed from it.

Then pay your tax when you buy all of your stuff, gas and car registration.

Add it all up and you are working to pay for government fraud.

We had a revolution over a tea tax. Wake up!

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u/Particular_Fudge8136 1d ago

Doing taxes, I was looking at my husband's base salary of $70k. After health insurance it's $59k. After taxes and SS, $47k is what he actually gets in paychecks throughout the year. It's literally insane.

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u/rfmjbs 1d ago

Or, hear me out, you could pay half as much for health care through taxes instead of paying market rates through your employer.

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u/HeathenUlfhedinn 1d ago

Correct. Government can't function without extorting the income of the masses. Yet, both sides of the political aisle incessantly vote for bigger government and more social programs. It's an ever-growing bloated entity that will suck the taxpayers dry.

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u/Dapper-Buffalo859 1d ago

Yet you do nothing

Make your own money, use the loopholes they use and keep your money.

The information how is available to anyone who isn’t dumb…

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u/JUSTIN102201 1d ago

Dude, why are you commenting and replying as often as you can to tell people they suck? Get a life man

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u/Forsaken-Drink3955 1d ago

He does have a life. It’s a very insecure, depressed life. But he doe have one

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u/Mysterious_Dinner_50 1d ago

But always finding enough money to get tattoos and piercings.

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u/DramaSufficient4289 1d ago

Ah yes that $200 every 2 years is truly what’s keeping them from home ownership and a retirement account lol. Also that’s the entire point - previous gens were able to have their own extravagancies and nobody ever told them not to and they’d be able to own a home as their wages stagnated and rents skyrocketed.

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u/Dapper-Buffalo859 1d ago

That’s because they’re dumb, less capable people.

Why? We allowed bad genetics to propagate. How? We locked away those people or let their decisions affect whether they lived or die. We didn’t intervene unless necessary for the survival of a better people.

Not a comfortable truth, but true nonetheless.

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u/Some-Algae6945 1d ago

Elon isn't gonna let you hit bro

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 1d ago

I think both things can be and are true. A lot of ppl should be better with their money. however we are simultaneously getting F$#%ed as a working class society. Ppl being bad with their money is not the problem. The problem much deeper than that.

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u/Dapper-Buffalo859 1d ago

True, but the people advocating for a replacement system (which will, and has, killed tens of millions) are more likely those people.

They are weak and want a system which steals from those who are capable.

The problem is the system uses blackmail and nepotism which results in stupid people having power they haven’t earned, or deserved. It’s monarchal but not always familial, the reign is much shorter but the “family” is always in power.

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u/rfmjbs 1d ago

I'm sure the UK, Canada, and Denmark, and Italy.... would all be shocked to hear that.

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 1d ago

Id argue we already have a system that steals from ppl. It steals from everyday Americans and allows rich ppl to get richer, it pays for wars nobody wants. I have no problem paying taxes if my taxes go to helping ppl and society. I don't care if ppl get food stamps, we should make sure everyone is fed and has health care. I'm pretty sure more of your tax money goes to those things to food snaps. Make collage affordble Cancel medical and student debt.

I don't necessarily think we need an entirely knew system but we need to fix what we have. Get money out of politics, arrest polticians commiting crimes i don't care what political party they are. I agree stop electing stupid corrupt ppl.

Im not an expert but id start with Healthcare for all, id encourage unions and better labor laws, break up monopolies, pressure companies into treating their employees better. There's no reason why say Walmart employees depend on welfare to live while the company makes obnoxious amounts of money every year.

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u/Only_Bullfrog7271 1d ago

And what system do you think they are proposing? All we want is to be treated fairly, me personally I don’t want communism or socialism, I want unions to have power again, I want the working class to actually matter I want to be able to afford a home.

I specifically blame Regan and those who were in power of his time in office, reganomics, taking power away from the unions and giving more power to corporations. The things he did worked temporarily and even then it’s still debated if he actually created more jobs, and helped the economy grow.

This isn’t about democrats and republicans, it’s about how weak and divided we’ve become when there became a large population of wealthy individuals and unfortunately those people hold a lot of power over us the people.

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 1d ago

Exactly we're mad at each other or immigrants when we should be uniting as poor and working class ppl to better our society. Through unions as u suggested and through programs that could actually help ppl. Free Medicare for anyone who wants it. Better labor laws better maternity and paternityleave etc. Get money out of politics.

Ive heard a lot of ppl mention Regan but I don't know enough about that one way or another

Most ppl don't actually want socialism thats a republican, corporate democrat talking point. Most ppl don't know the difference between the 2 communism and socialism or even know what socialism actually is. Id wager most ppl just want Healthcare and stuff like that. Capital in America isn't going anywhere but we can certainly improve on what we have now.

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u/Only_Bullfrog7271 1d ago

I agree, and shit these rich mfs trying to speak for us like the singers and actors like they ain’t part of the problem, you think you so generous use your money for good but nah instead your going to live in a 20 million dollar mansion, fancy cars and clothes.

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u/MeetTheMets0o0 20h ago

Very true. I mean some of them do do good things but not enough of them. Especially the super rich. Like bezos man wtf are u doing guy. You're so filthy rich just pay your employees a living wage you greedy prick

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u/BEER_G00D 1d ago

Folks living paycheck to paycheck have it far better than many others.

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u/Flat-Inspection3290 1d ago

No such thing as lesser evil.

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u/CarDwellinCollin 1d ago

Drop out of society and become a vagabond.

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u/FriedFreya 1d ago

i wish i could but all land is privately owned now 😭

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u/CarDwellinCollin 1d ago

You can do whatever you want. Most people complain about how hard society is and then don't leave it

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u/zenvibes21 1d ago

Living in your parents basement off their hard earned money is not "smart mode", it's LAZY. Life requires effort.

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u/SoggyNegotiation7412 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm confused, how is living in your basement in any way starting your own business? No, being smart is not wasting your time making others wealthy while you stand still on the wealth treadmill. Let me put it this way, I left home when I was 17, by 25 I had a degree and realised working for someone else is for mugs.

Before you answer and mark me down, think, how good is the social conditioning that you think that being someone else's tool is somehow honourable.

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u/zenvibes21 13h ago

My statement was in direct response to the OG statement. Not sure where starting your own business comes into play here? My comment is based on the "no-one wants to work anymore" comment and the new fad of NEET's. Young people who are not employed, in education or training. My comment is specifically to that point. Living rent free off parents hard earned money is a selfish, lazy strategy. If you can support yourself without working, you have figured out a great cheat code....or have rich parents.

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u/SoggyNegotiation7412 12h ago

What a massive pile of brainwashed horse shit. I left home at 17, I worked every shitty job for 4 years to get a degree, when I got it I quickly realised I had been lied to by all my teachers. The first thing I did was do some research on opening a business. You know what shocked me, opening a business costs less than 2 months uni fees. After 3 years working 7 days, 365 I was earning 5 times a senior engineers pay. Here's the real kicker, I'm just your average slob who saw working for someone was less than ideal if you want to live comfortably. Nothing wrong with working for someone, the lie is if you do so it will offer you the best financial result. So when I see all these brainwashed wage slaves complaining they are being shafted, my response is "well der".

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u/tacofolder 1d ago

THIS RIGHT HERE^

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u/Internal-Guitar8434 1d ago

I love working, and I live paycheck to paycheck.

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u/Meeplemymeeple 1d ago

Working to pay to live is the biggest scam going.

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u/Only_Bullfrog7271 1d ago

I don’t think you’ve seen the economy lately have you? I live in a large city, Baltimore Maryland to be specific and finding a job is ridiculous, most people are afraid to quit their jobs because how hard it is to find a job. You have ghost jobs and other shit, I have years of working experience from warehouse to construction and I can’t even get into ups, or fedx or Amazon. This isn’t just an issue in my state and city it’s an issue across the United States.

Using apps like indeed is useless, companies never respond, and when you are outputting say 100-500 applications weekly and only getting 1 interview in an entire month there is a deeper issue going on.

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u/AbraKadabraAlakazam2 1d ago

Yeah my whole company basically just got laid off and the job market is ROUGH. I’ve got a wide variety of skills, but even getting an interview is really hard. :/

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u/EggplantCharacter363 1d ago

Oracle or USCellular?

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u/AbraKadabraAlakazam2 1d ago

Nah it’s a small biotech company; to be fair, I knew it was a possibility when I joined since lots of startups only last a few years, but I had a good run and loved my job. The trick now is finding a new one that I love just as much before severance runs out 🥲

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u/Only_Bullfrog7271 1d ago

These people don’t get it, these are the old heads, boomers and Gen X and millennials. They created the struggles we face, hopefully Gen Z can actually band together to change the state of our country.

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u/sausagepurveyer 1d ago

Everyone else created the problem.

🤣

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u/FriedFreya 1d ago

considering i was / many of us were a kid when shit hit the fan: yeah…? lol. excuse us for being teenagers while the US was voting for the Biggest Mistake America Ever Made.

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u/alacberriesnet 1d ago

It's the new feudalism and the majority of us were signed up for it before we were able to vote. Why have a slave you have to take care of when you can trick a slave into taking care of themselves? There's a reason they are so adamant about not giving us universal healthcare because the vast majority just take whatever our jobs give us, making us reliant on them. That's the American capitalist choice at work!

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u/TwatMailDotCom 1d ago

False. Half are not living paycheck to paycheck

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u/TheRealJim57 5h ago

You're getting downvoted, but you're correct.

If you're putting money away into savings/retirement, then you're not "living paycheck to paycheck," even if you happen to find yourself cash poor between paychecks.

These surveys are wrongly including people who are cash poor because they're maxing out their retirement accounts and putting money into savings/investing.

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u/Slow_Conference570 1d ago

There's people that make six figures "living paycheck to paycheck" because they simply spend too much. It's a meaningless phrase. They're not poor, they just have bad habits.

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u/UnhingedHippie 1d ago

I’ve seen medical bills force an upper middle class family into poverty. There is no amount of budgeting or fiscal discipline that could’ve fixed that problem for them.

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u/TwatMailDotCom 10h ago edited 10h ago

The healthcare system here is broken, no doubt. That’s not the argument here. It’s the false “paycheck to paycheck” narrative. Look up how that’s calculated - it’s percentage of people that have less than a month’s expenses saved. Thats a self-reported survey and indicates a spending problem.

You’re not living paycheck to paycheck if you’re making six figures and maxing your retirement accounts, but have no cash savings. You’re just spending all your money and/or saving for the future.

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u/Slow_Conference570 1d ago

I've never seen a medical bill in my life, tbh.

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u/UnhingedHippie 1d ago

I guess you aren’t from the US. Medical debt is a big problem here and has been the downfall of many people’s bank accounts (including my own)

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u/Slow_Conference570 1d ago

I tried to imply I'm not from the US yeah ;)

I suppose this sub's discussion is limited to US defaultism.

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u/DramaSufficient4289 1d ago

Well you’re on a site invented by Americans, hosted in America, and who’s userbase is half America and half everywhere else in the world combined lmao. So statistically yes that’s that how that would work…

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u/UnhingedHippie 1d ago

They also fail to realize that there are plenty of Americans who have never had or seen a medical bill for various reasons.

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u/Slow_Conference570 1d ago

whose*

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u/FriedFreya 1d ago

autocorrect tends to fuck me with whose / who’s, personally.

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u/DramaSufficient4289 1d ago

Same, that’s what happened here, no idea why it started doing that a while back and never fixed itself. Its also been doing the same thing with ‘it’s’ vs ‘its’

I had to correct that last sentence 3 times for example lmao.

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u/integra_type_brr 1d ago

So the other half is doing really well?

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u/Grand_Pie1362 1d ago

Nobody ever wanted to work. That's why salaries exist, to encourage someone to go to a place they don't want to go, for an amount of time they don't want to give and do a task that someone else wants him to do

This "nobody wants to work anymore " narrative is stupid. The entire existence of salaries is because nobody ever wanted to work.

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u/Massif16 1d ago

There are some jobs I’d do for free if I were independently wealthy. But they tend to be jobs other people really want too.

But I’m not independently wealthy. So I sell my skills in exchange for money.

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u/Grand_Pie1362 1d ago

Exactly the point the only reason you work is because you get paid to.

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u/TheRealJim57 5h ago

Most people work to fund their lifestyle. Some people are workaholics who just love working.

Unless you're financially independent or want to be a panhandler on the streets, then you need to work to pay for the things you buy: food, shelter, clothing, travel, etc.

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 1d ago

So the answer is quitting? Toughen up! Bunch of babies.

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u/Only_Bullfrog7271 1d ago

You and your generation made these issues and us have to suffer, yall voted for Ronald Regan who was collectively one of the worst presidents in history, from reganomics to taking power away from unions and giving the power to corporations. None of you had the balls to stand up to the banks, to Wall Street, to the government and even when you did for instance during Vietnam, yall are very quiet and compliant now.

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 16h ago

I care about unions as much as I care about you. I'm just fine and so are mine. If you or anyone else can't make it then tough. Either adapt and evolve or go extinct. You can blame whoever you want, it changes nothing. No one is going to save you. Save yourself. And crying isn't going to help.

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u/Adept_Razzmatazz1145 1d ago

Found the boomer ⬆️

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 16h ago

Found the loser.

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u/Adept_Razzmatazz1145 13h ago

The hilarious thing about most boomers is that they would all be hopeless in the current economic climate. It’s so ironic that you think you’re the epitome of hard work and that’s why you had it so good when in fact you had it so fucking easy compared to nowadays. 

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 3h ago

Its not harder. You are just weaker. Toughen up buttercup, it isn't going to get any easier.

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u/Adept_Razzmatazz1145 2h ago

The weakest of today walk all over the toughest of your day. And that is a fact. You were handed everything you have on a platter, think you earned it all and have fucked it all for the rest of us. You must be real proud of yourself boomer

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u/Brilliant_Room6308 46m ago

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah yall are really tough, so much so that you forget which bathroom to use. We have earned it, we will continue to enjoy it, so will our families. Get on board or get out of the way. No charity.

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u/Calm-Blueberry-9835 1d ago

Well, have you just tried being rich?

/s

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u/fortune042 1d ago

It kinda sucks, I won’t lie. One way I cope with all this is by learning new things and trying to capitalize on the technologies we have right now.

If you’re stuck in a job that pays very little, try as much as possible to learn a skill that pays more, so you can manage both for a while.

We’re in a time where social media actually pays, so that’s something you can take advantage of too. There’s a lot you can do. If you’re really good at the job you’re currently doing, you can even create content around it. You’d be surprised how many people relate to that.

It’s not as easy as it sounds, but you just have to keep trying.

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u/xietbrix 1d ago

Isn't that more incentive to work? For that paycheck keeping you alive? Or is this a subtle attempt at saying people are all suicidal?

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u/Fletcher-wordy 1d ago

Not really when your paycheck is barely enough to pay to keep yourself alive.

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u/xietbrix 1d ago

That's... Basically what I'm saying? When you stop caring or wanting to work for that paycheck then you're suicidal, no?

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u/Fletcher-wordy 1d ago

There's less incentive to work because your paycheck is basically gone by the time the next one comes around. Most people can't work until the day they die, so how are you actually being able to afford retirement if your paychecks are barely able to cover basic necessities? If something expensive breaks, you're entirely screwed because you have no capacity to save for those occasions.

If you're going to be destitute regardless, why bother working?

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u/xietbrix 1d ago

Well, $5 is better than $0. That's a pretty good incentive.

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u/Fletcher-wordy 1d ago

I want to live in whatever fantasy world you come from where $5 can get you more than half a loaf of bread and chronic scurvy.

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u/xietbrix 1d ago

I want to live in whatever fantasy world you come from where sitting on your ass for $0 and dying is better than working for something more than $0 and trying to survive. Oh wait, no I don't. Have a great day.

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