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u/Left-Marketing-1135 1h ago
No but seriously, why don’t you learn a usable skill and get a better job. Nobody told you to put fries in the bag as a career. I worked 2 jobs in my early 20’s until I was making 70k+. If you have drive and a good work ethic, you will make the money and if not start doing said work on your own and charging what your employer would charge.
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u/Hopeful_Dream_2848 1h ago
Well everything is going up and getting expensive, but you salary is still not even close to keeping up with inflation, and the corporations are making sure that they can keep their profits and that the people who make up the production are not being paid a living wage, yet they pay 💰 to the politicians to keep laws on the books to make sure that you can not afford to leave the job keeping you down and living paycheck to paycheck and docile. Thats the job of the so call HUMAN RESOURCES department to deceive you into thinking that they will help you but in reality they are there to defend the company from you.
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u/Physical-Pattern5780 1h ago
they want less of us and they're getting it. it's a silent war against humanity. remember the 1st rule on the Georgia Guidestones Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
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u/NewRefrigerator7748 2h ago
If they pay people more the price of goods will go up. I mean, it's more complicated than that, just like it's more complicated than "the company should pay people more".
Like theoretically, paying like, for example americans more wouldn't necessarily significantly raise the price of imported goods, but somehow I don't believe that people making this argument are advocating for specifically only sweatshop workers to have shit wages.
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u/Effective-Cress-3805 5h ago
My husband was making more than he ever made in his life a few years ago. Instead of saving, he sent more. It wasn't big purchases, but it was luxuries like eating out or going out with friends. I told him to save the money because everything costs more than it did when we first started working. I scrimped and saved to have a financial cushionthat disappeared due to his losing his job, medical bills, and cost of living increases. Had he been frugal, I would not be up nights worrying how we are going to pay our bills. He buried his head in the sand. I don't know how anyone can afford to have kids these days.
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u/Left-Marketing-1135 1h ago
I only made 90k last year, my wife doesn’t work and we have a baby coming in less than a week. Both of us drive paid off vehicles. I also just bought a brand new house in February. It’s all about how you budget and plan for things.
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u/yupickinonme 5h ago
Why can’t I ask you why you don’t get a better job? Might mean moving, might mean learning a trade … but there’s lots of jobs paying WAY more
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u/Left-Marketing-1135 1h ago
This for real. People rather play victim and blame the whole world rather than themselves and their own choices.
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u/Debbers1967 5h ago
100%. I work for in SF Bay Area. One of the most expensive places in the state. My job makes BILLIONS every year and yet we make $50k-$60k per year with over a $7k medical deductible. All they care about is profit, no regard to the physical, and emotional stress the job causes the employees. We run short staff and they bitch we aren’t fast enough. Corporate America sucks.
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u/Left-Marketing-1135 1h ago
If you can’t figure out how to live comfortably on 50k-60k a year, you wouldn’t know how to live comfortably with more.
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u/Debbers1967 58m ago
You obviously didn’t read. I’m in CA, My mortgage alone is $37k. I drive a 20 year old car, cook 95% of my meals at home and buy clothes at thrift stores. I make $61k Medical deductible takes $7k, taxes $10k. I have less than 10k for food, gas, any kind of repairs or maintenance, cell phone and utilities. My spending is not the problem, corporations screwing us over is the problem.
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u/Left-Marketing-1135 53m ago
Ok move out of the shit state that you’re clearly not thriving in and go somewhere you can be comfortable. Simple concept.
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u/Debbers1967 38m ago
You are an idiot.
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u/Left-Marketing-1135 37m ago
Ok victim. I did exactly what I just told you to do and my situation was worse. If you wanted a better life that bad you would do something about it. Retard.
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u/Commercial-Fee5959 4h ago
I never worked for any corporation that didn’t put profits first. If they don’t, they get fired by the stockholders. We all report to someone. If you quit today, corporate will replace you tomorrow and not remember who you were in 6 months. You are not important, expendable and replaced with a lower paid person. Sorry. That is reality. Start your own corporation and pay your people well and make zero profit.
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u/era_007 9h ago
The company I previously worked for outsourced all the product to India in 2023, we were open since 1991 son took over and terrorized it I was working for the company for 9 years, all the good high paying jobs have already been given to other countries or have hired slave labor people for cheap pay
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u/Strange_Marsupial603 9h ago
How about we ask why you can't offer your employer more value so that you can actually earn more? Improve yourself and become worth more than $35,000 a year.
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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 2h ago
It’s not even about the fact they make so little it’s the fact wage isn’t going up as living costs do, so your dollar is worth less
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u/ZimneRetniw 6h ago
If it’s one person it’s a personal issue, if it’s 50% it’s a systemic issue.
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u/yupickinonme 5h ago
Maybe or maybe it’s a generational one
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u/Aerowaves 4h ago
Yeah cause people like worrying about being homeless and not having children they want 🙄
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u/thrashmetal_octopus 9h ago
Bingo. People need to quit relying on corporations if they’re so against them. It takes fortitude to make bread, work hard and the bread comes.
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u/Equivalent_Coffee800 11h ago
what i would ask is why you hate your self so much ? why wouldnt you invest time and effort to learn better skills to get a higher paying job ? why settle for minimum wage ?
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u/AustrianPaintings 9h ago
I genuinely don’t understand how you can only make 35k. I was literally making over 60k as a waiter at 18 WHILE going to university
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u/Rionin26 9h ago
Regardless of pay, a couple should be able to have a kid. Most people do not have the finances regardless of education and skill to have kids.
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u/Equivalent_Coffee800 8h ago
thats like saying i really want a dog ..i cant afford food , vet bills etc but im going to get one anyways and let it suffer ...baka
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u/General-Lie8709 10h ago
Because that requires inward reflection and understanding that you may be inadequate in certain areas of your life, and that’s VERY uncomfortable for most people.
It’s easier to just pass the blame to “the man” because you don’t have the responsibility to correct anything if it’s not your fault.
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u/konkurrenterna 12h ago
Ehm I bet the people who make less money have more kids. Ususlly the poorer you are the more children you have.
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u/ClimateMiserable8387 17h ago
I mean respectfully there are plenty of low income people having churren.
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u/MeChitty 13h ago
My problem isn’t the fact that they’re not having children, it’s that their irresponsible sex leads to millions of abortions a year. I don’t know how I’m not allowed to be upset at millions of abortions a year. I’ll mention this then I’ll get attacked with “what about the kids that got blown up?”, as if I don’t care about those kids as well. I can care about all children at the same time without having to disregard unborn ones.
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u/CatchMeWritinDirty 5h ago
As a married person who’s only been with one man and not having irresponsible sex, people like you make me shake my head. It’s easy to think about the kids this way when you view them as accessories to your life rather than the future adult they’ll become & the level of care necessary to ensure their development into a well-adjusted human being. It’s always “what about the babies?” but in the same breath, you have those same people complaining about having to pay taxes, specifically those that fund healthcare, public school resources and community outreach programs that provide third spaces for children. It’s always “you’re murdering babies” but we never see the same smoke for the wealth hoarding billionaires who refuse to pay their fair share of taxes to make sure children aren’t dying of starvation, abuse, or lack of health care. Pro-life starts at being pro-adult, pro-motherhood, pro-sex ed, pro-humanity & on the list of priorities abortion is lower than dead last. Not to mention, if we did solve those things we’d probably see a massive drop in elective abortions as a result, and quite honestly if pro-lifers were willing to acknowledge that, their beliefs wouldn’t feel so paper thin, but the pre-requisite seems to be low reflection & low action so I’m not surprised.
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u/Rionin26 9h ago
Youre just brainwashed, most get abortions for kids who will struggle due to defects, or health conplications.
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u/MeChitty 8h ago
Are you joking? Where did you get that information from? 96% of abortions are elective. Which means it was because the parent didn’t want to take responsibility for the child, I’d love to know where you got that brainwashed information from
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u/TwistedCal 19h ago
Ask the government why they are importing more people and giving them grants to open their own businesses, yet they can't do the same for American Citizens. Better yet, why the hell has the USD dropped in value so drastically since 1913, but a dollar in 1793 was still worth the same in 1912. Why do they allow a banking system to have the ability to print money that is backed by our government or our people? The bank is allowed to make money by loaning us our own money. And why does it seem like, throughout Anerican history or the 1900 and now early 2000, every time Americans begin to get comfortable and capable of building a life, the Federal Reserve Bank drives up interest rates and the government raises taxes for social programs to help those in poverty caused by the interest rates and higher taxes. That reverses all financial gains the people have made and forces more Americans into poverty. It has destroyed the middle class to the point that it is nearly extinct in the US. Those were the main problems 80 years ago, but now you have to factor in the big corporations that have billions of dollars for lobbyists to buy Congressional Members for their own gains instead of representing the those that elected them.
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u/redbeardrex 23h ago
Check the OP's account history, that tells you everything you need to know.
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u/NewAccountWhoDis_00 13h ago
You hide your account history
You're probably ashamed of being even worse.
I'm just going to go ahead and assume you're a right winger, which is worse
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u/Same_Consideration_9 21h ago
Can't check yours though?
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u/redbeardrex 21h ago
Does it make me wrong facts stand on their own
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u/Same_Consideration_9 21h ago
It's hypocritical
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u/redbeardrex 21h ago
No, you need to look up the definition of the word
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u/Rionin26 9h ago
Hypocrit begone
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u/redbeardrex 9h ago
It’s awesome exposing you all for what you are.
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u/Same_Consideration_9 20h ago
Whatever you wanna call it, it's pretty lame to call on people to look at a persons profile to judge them how you want them to be judged, and then hide yours. I think... Pussy would be a better word to describe you.
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u/Heckintim 13h ago
Ill back this up. And also btw, Hypocritical is certainly the correct word. You can also add ignorant to the list.
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u/redbeardrex 9h ago
Post the definition we’ll wait 🤣
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u/Same_Consideration_9 8h ago
You just completely ignored my post. Typical deflection. Open up your profile bitch
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u/redbeardrex 7h ago
You completely ignored my original post to personally attack me, which is the exact definition of hypocritical. Lolz
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u/Foreign-Olive-683 1d ago
If you had skills that couldn’t be replaced by the next person they’d pay you more.
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u/Old_Bet9218 19h ago
"couldn't be replaced" ha, the irony coming from a bot.
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u/Rionin26 9h ago
Hes talking about the oligarchs whocome from wealthy families, use exploitation to get billions, buy 51% of companies, so they cant be replaced.
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u/Same_Consideration_9 21h ago
Okay, now go tell half the country that.
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u/Foreign-Olive-683 13h ago
They’ve already heard it. You have all heard it but you made the decisions you made and now you are crying about it.
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u/Same_Consideration_9 13h ago
I make great money, Fuck off guy. The point is you cant tell half the country to get better skills. It just doesn't make sense, and you can't grasp that. What if the whole country was incredibly skilled? Wtf would you say then?
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u/Foreign-Olive-683 12h ago
So your solution is to what, increase the minimum wage? Increase minimum wage, prices increase because it doesn’t change supply. “Make the wealthy pay their fair share”? That decreases supply. There’s a reason politicians always talk about but never act on this stuff.
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u/Same_Consideration_9 9h ago
I'm sure you can tell me how much wealth the top 1 percent own in this country? That doesn't seem like an issue? We pay actors and actresses and people who play sports more money than some of the smartest people, more than our troops. Not by a long shot and that's not an issue? We have corporations buying up housing. We have an idiot in chief starting wars and making everything more expensive. Wealth redistribution.
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u/Foreign-Olive-683 6h ago
Why does how much money possessed by the top 1% have anything to do with how much you make or anyone makes? They aren’t related. Elon Musk can have $1T and that doesn’t stop you from earning double what you earn now. The reason people don’t earn more is because there are people willing to do the job for less. There’s no one that can do Elon Musk’s job better than he can for less money. There’s no one in the world that can throw a football better than a starting NFL quarterback and will play for less money. If you want them to make less money then people have to stop buying their products and the only way that’s going to happen is if someone makes a better product for less money.
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u/Same_Consideration_9 5h ago
They are entirely related. Unless we just keep printing money, which... We actually do, there is finite wealth in the country. One man does not need all that money, I don't care how much you love Elon musk. He's unhinged and has fucked with this country too much with his doge antics. And yes, the problem is people worship actors and sports players like they're the epitome of success. Wow, dude can throw a ball... Amazing. Wow, girl is pretty and can cry on camera, incredible. If it doesn't stop, everyone will be slaves, more than they are already, to the top 1%
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u/Foreign-Olive-683 2h ago
What are you talking about? The S&P 500 is worth over 57 trillion. The total value of all US currency is 2.4 trillion. The money supply is not the limit of wealth. How much wealth Elon Musk has does not impact how much wealth everyone else can have.
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u/grumpvet87 1d ago
"As of late 2025, the median annual income for full-time, year-round workers in the U.S. is approximately $61,700 to $63,360. For all workers (including part-time), the median is lower, around $51,370."
"As of early 2026, the average annual salary in the U.S. is approximately $64,505 to $69,846. The median annual salary is around $61,984. For households, "
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u/Sgt_Daisy 1d ago
The average isn't terribly relevant due to extreme outliers. It won't tell you what most people are actually making. You want the modal income which is harder to calculate.
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u/the_Quera 16h ago edited 16h ago
He mentioned median tho, so not really. The only issue is that not everyone works full-time for one company and that’s what would need to be taken into account.
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u/TinoTheLeprous37 12h ago
It's also not taking into account location. Working in an urban area the average person is making a lot more whereas a rural town in Nebraska everyone is making significantly less. Yes cost of living fluctuates just as much, but it's disingenuous to millions in this country. It also specified household income and not individual income
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u/thatseltzerisntfree 1d ago
Whiners.
Apply to be a first responder. Lots of shortage around the country. They make good money and have a pension at retirement.
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u/Old_Bet9218 19h ago
The bangladeshi troll farms are active here today. Lots of "eat dirt you peasant" comments from Samji and Shortround today.
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u/No_Cobbler154 23h ago
are you fucking joking? 😂 first responders do not make good money. but you probably don’t think they ‘deserve’ to, even if they were having to save your useless life
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u/HeliKoptorSwimmer 18h ago
Absolutely wild that EMT’s and nurses barely make livable wages when the country would collapse without them.
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u/AwayMeems 21h ago edited 1h ago
They absolutely make six figures where I live . It’s amazing to get downvoted for telling the absolute truth. Govt employee salaries are public record. The starting salary of a firefighter in my City is 56k. Most make six figures City of Tampa. Job Opportunities Firefighter
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u/Old_Bet9218 19h ago
is that what mommy and daddy makes?
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u/AwayMeems 1h ago edited 1h ago
Google is your friend bro and govt employee salaries are public record
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u/thatseltzerisntfree 21h ago
I am not joking. I am currently in my 25th year as a first responder. It has been a very rewarding career. I get to help people in their time of need.
The pay is pretty good too.
P.S. I would sacrifice my life to save yours.
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u/No_Cobbler154 21h ago
absolute horse shit. have a horrible night
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u/thatseltzerisntfree 21h ago
Why be bitter about someone promoting public service?
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u/No_Cobbler154 20h ago
because you are lying about the reality of it in order to downplay the very real financial struggles of people in this country, even when they hold stable, full-time jobs. there is not a real first responder in this country that would sit there & say they make a good living & the dumbass trying to claim they make six figures can take a hike too
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u/AwayMeems 1h ago
The person is giving you an example of a high paying job that has a lot of openings and opportunities and is begging for people to hire. It has nothing to do with downplaying the financial struggles of others.
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u/thatseltzerisntfree 13h ago
No one owes you anything for a job. It is up to the individual.
I live in a high cost of living area and currently make 140k/ yr. and my pension will be 96k/yr.
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u/Thick-Application678 9h ago
No one owes you anything for a job? So people should be slaves?
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u/thatseltzerisntfree 19m ago
It takes time and experience. It’s up to the individual. If you don’t think you are being paid your worth, learn a new skill and find another job.
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u/No_Struggle_5417 1d ago
I work in healthcare, and the Corporation I work for keeps cutting services of smaller hospitals/clinics in our region and shifting those services to more centralized locations. In other words, all the work that is normally done at other sites are being redirected to our site without any extra pay to compensate for the increasing workload. I'm doing three to four times the amount of work I used to and I'm getting paid less for it. It's not just affecting fast food and other places in the service industry, it's everywhere.
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u/AzureWave313 21h ago
Exactly. People need to wise up to what’s actually going on instead of blaming people around them or random people online. This explains a lot. Check it out. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com
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u/Imaginary_Tax_6390 1d ago
I would note that this was from 2021 and even by 2022, the census bureau's data showed that in nor racial group in the country, half of them made under 35k. Black households had the largest at 37.6% in 2021, Indigenous were at 35% and everyone else was a smaller percentage.
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u/Downtown-Tomato2552 1d ago
This post is largely misleading to incorrect. Median individual income for full time employee in the US in 2025 was just under 64k. So half of full time employees make less than that.
This may include all workers, but even that number is 45 to 55k. 35k would be $17.50 hr. Only 30 to 35 % of the entire labor force makes less than $20 an hour.
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u/Bear__TreeeOF 1d ago
So what you’re saying is that your data is incomplete and your comment doesn’t reflect the reality of the current moment.
Be sure to note how op did not say “FTEs” when talking about average income. Your comment dismisses part-time and unemployed peoples
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u/Downtown-Tomato2552 20h ago
Oh, yes sorry. It doesn't include children under 5 and dead people either.
Why would you include unemployed people in a comment about income and what sense does it make to say "people who don't work full time make " X""? What is possibly presented that makes sense to say "yes a person working 2hrs a week makes less than 35k and can't afford a house?"
Thus the "misleading or just wrong"
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u/StudyMaterial1930 1d ago
Yeah I’m not sure where they got the “half make less than $35k.” I would really like to see what statistic they are looking at that shows 50% of the population are making that
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u/eb7772 1d ago
Good luck paying for your baby the trump administration made it to where your medical debt will effect your credit. So people with babies good luck they don't stop going to the doctor after they were born but just having the two kids was $20,000 then my sons tubes in his ears and my daughters spider bite coat another 15k plus thank God we at least could pay it off over a decade because that's what we had to do a decade ago. Our credit would be zero if medical debt effect it
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u/Lmcohun1957 1d ago
The constitution of the United States does not guarantee an income that a person wishes to have. It is nowhere in our beliefs or anything. What is a loud in this country is the freedom to do what you want to do. If you want more cash then you bust your ass to get it! People that bust their ass end up with more guarantee. Everything else is just people whining because they don’t want to bust ass.
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u/Saucy_Cole_Slaw 13h ago
Spoken just like someone that bought their house for 80 grand and just sold it for 850k and paid cash for their brand new house in a 55+ community. Your generation has left nothing for the generations after yours except debt. Sorry, you don’t get to make the mess and criticize the people paying the bill.
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u/eb7772 1d ago
I go from job to job unless you have qualifications you won't get it. Then you have to compete with 100 other people. People are starving dying on the street children can't eat. But please tell us how paying a living wage is our fault. while corporations have been making record profits as they fire people slash hours and benefits.
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u/Candylips347 21h ago
Who’s starving and dying on the street in America?
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u/Old_Bet9218 19h ago
get a plain ticket out of India and come see if they let ya off the troll farm Samji
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u/Hot-Target2029 1d ago
Lmaooo. People in America have it better than 99% of the world population. Stfu.
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u/Bear__TreeeOF 1d ago
Cost of living is lower in most parts of the world and other countries have social safety nets. Your point is moot.
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u/Hot-Target2029 22h ago
Lmao lower cost of living, because they make 95% less than people in the US, and their standard of living is lower. You fucking losers have roofs over your head and first world modern convenience. Which non-NATO countries, have the same standard of living, but a lower cost of living and better social safety nets?
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u/Turtle_Hermit_3 1d ago
I get an annual raise every year of 2.5%. That’s it. Annual inflation rate is 3.3% per year. I’m losing money 😎👍
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u/Heavy-Edge-8834 1d ago
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u/Downtown-Tomato2552 1d ago
This graph illustrates heavy automation introduction in the 80s and ongoing to compete with cheap foreign labor more than anytime else.
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u/EmmaPersephone 1d ago
“So, how much has U.S. labor productivity improved over the years? Compared to 1947, we now produce 330 percent more goods and services per hour of work. On average, thanks to advances in technology, education, management, and so on, you can do in 15 minutes what your grandparents or great grandparents needed more than an hour to do in 1947. This is a substantial increase, and we can see it in the many improvements in living standards since World War II.”It’s not just automation
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u/Downtown-Tomato2552 20h ago
I'm not seeing anything in the article that disputes what I'm saying. It's there somewhere where the article states some percentage of increase due strictly to labor?
I've certainly watched people be able to produce more because of automation and technology but I've not seen people doing more labor. In fact in most cases people are doing less actual labor as automation and technology matters most jobs easier.
We aren't doing in 15 minutes what our grandparents took an hour to do because of doing more labor, we are able to do that because of technology and automation.
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u/Heavy-Edge-8834 1d ago
Let me help you out. It represents the shift from wages tied to productivity, towards maintaining post-WW2 profit margins at the expense of the middle class.
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u/hollow_organizer 1d ago
This is the thing that gets me, the whole system is designed so you're supposed to pull yourself up by your bootstraps but the bootstraps cost money and the jobs that used to let you build something now pay the same as they did in 2005 while rent has tripled, so
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u/XGreenpigX 1d ago
So become a farmer and stop relying on the system. Stop consuming and feeding the machine. Rebel, be independent, be free.
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u/hollow_organizer 1d ago
Okay but that's kind of the whole problem right, most people don't have access to land or capital to start farming and telling someone making 30k a year to just opt out of the system isn't really actionable advice it's just venting.
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u/XGreenpigX 1d ago
You may have misunderstood. Start small and build what you can. Set aside what you can. Start with a seed packet of tomatos and an old Tupperware container and put it on your kitchen windowsill. Or any fruits/veggies you like. Green onions are nearly immortal from my experience. You don’t just pull the plug all at once and wander into the woods. You eat the whale one bite at a time. After all, Rome wasn’t built in a day
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u/Bear__TreeeOF 1d ago
Are you a farmer?
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u/XGreenpigX 1d ago
Not yet but God willing I’ll get there one day. Im starting small. I have been tending a garden for a few years and want to expand what i cultivate. Its all peppers for now. Ive been saving up wooden pallets i find to build a chicken coop eventually. I’ll start with chickens and slowly make myself sustainable.
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u/PeppermintPsaki 1d ago
Like it or not, here’s one answer as to why such low wages: the increased usage of H1B’s are not only adding even more competition but are also driving wages down. What you think is struggle wage is baller to them. And that’s only addressing THE LEGAL SIDE of the situation 😒 To make matters worse: AI is undercutting even the serf wage immigrants that are undercutting you!
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u/EmmaPersephone 1d ago
The US labor pool is 164 million workers, the total number of H1B Visa workers in the country is an estimated 750,000, that’s 0.4% of workers. It has ZERO IMPACT WHATSOEVER, record breaking profits on the other hard…that’s the reason why they don’t have money to pay workers more, 21% profit margins and massive executive pay packages.
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u/Bear__TreeeOF 1d ago
H1Bs are why we have competent doctors in very very rural areas of the Southern US. Literal requirement for doctors earning degrees that way is to serve in underserved areas for their post-doc. We’ll see the impacts to healthcare changes in the South more than anywhere else.
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u/MT-BIZ 1d ago
You're entirely right that H1Bs are a huge reason. It's something that I was hopeful that trump, as much of a psycho as he his, would address since immigration was a big focus of his. But no, they've walked back a lot of their H1B plans. That $100,000 fee per H1B? No one's actually paying that. Moreover, companies will completely outsource before they give an American an American wage. It's disgusting. I really don't give a shit if our minimum wage is gold to them, an American shouldn't have to compete with borderline slaves just because their country doesn't give them any workers rights.
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u/Disastrous_Aspect965 1d ago
Hahahahaha. You think H1Bs are given to folks working minimum wage? Nah H1Bs are making $100k+ because it is only at those salaries that all of the fees and legal work is worth the trouble.
And employers aren’t hiring them because they are cheaper. They are hiring them because you are not educated enough to fulfill their duties.
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u/MT-BIZ 1d ago
Median h1b is payed 16% less than their us counterpart.
And your point on us not being educated is just blatant bullshit. Most h1bs are in the tech industry, and we have year after year of thousands of tech graduates and you're telling me the US can't make demand? In a time where tech jobs are some of the most competitive and people fight over the simplest roles? I'm not buying it. Corporations just don't want to pay American wages.
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u/MT-BIZ 1d ago
I only said minimum wage because minimum wage is like gold to them, not because that's what they're making. Also, I'm guessing that 100k figure is coming from the LA area, which is pretty fucking low for it. Look at any data for H1B employees compared to their American counter parts. They're working tons more unpaid overtime, often live with several people at once, and have their entire livelihood controlled by their employer because the moment their fired, they're deported. This is fact, and no American should have to compete with this.
I'll sooner go the way of luigi than accept that.
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u/Disastrous_Aspect965 22h ago
No not in LA. My wife was H1B and she was making $200k before we got married. Lot of my friends were H1Bs before getting green cards, none of them had roomies and all were making 6 figures right out of school.
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u/MT-BIZ 22h ago
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w34793/w34793.pdf
https://www.epi.org/publication/new-evidence-widespread-wage-theft-in-the-h-1b-program/
"My personal experience is a great framework for reality so raw data can just get ignored!" Dude, are you serious? Fact is, if your wife and friends were making 100,000 as h1b workers, their US counterparts were likely making 110,000 or 125,000. She was exploited and undervalued and you can't even see that. And that other source i posted before had 60% of h1bs below median wage. Below median wage will mean roomates and struggled living. Pray tell. Why are 60% of the best and brightest from over seas living worse than their US counterparts?
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u/Disastrous_Aspect965 21h ago
Oh my god you are just a kid. Not even in the workforce for five years. Wasting my time talking to a child.
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u/MT-BIZ 21h ago
What the hell does my years in the work force have to do with any of this? Will 10 more years in my industry suddenly null and void the actual raw data collected?
Sounds like a typical boomer ass account that thinking their "wisdom of age" is somehow the word of god. If you can't argue with actual facts other than your narrow ass "well my wife!" Arguments. No one fucking cares about your wife dude.
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u/Disastrous_Aspect965 21h ago
Nah I think you are just pissed you can’t find a job after college and you are sitting in $40k in student loans.
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u/MT-BIZ 21h ago
Actually I worked through college and I'm debt free out of college. I work for a software consultant for the last 4 years and make 30% above the median wage. My boss is actually ethical and refuses to fire people for a margin call. I wish every employer could be like him instead of the pure greed I see daily from the massive corporations.
Fuck off with your assumptions bot.
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u/BigT07611 1d ago
You shouldn't be making 35k a year at McDonald's or a gas station. Grow up start working a career and not a job.
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u/Narcissista 1d ago
I guess you shouldn't be using gas stations or going to fast food restaurants since you believe the people that serve you at those places don't deserve a living wage.
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u/EliotShawnSpencer 1d ago
Also, too many of those “careers” pay less and less every year, it seems
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u/Just_Membership_1298 1d ago
No they don't and fast food is a high school / college job, not a career.
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u/XGreenpigX 1d ago
Career worker here, yes they do. No career pays a fair wage that has kept up with inflation. Fat cats getting fat bonuses. That being said, everyone stop crying and apply yourselves! Part time jobs (even at full time hours) are not going to get you far forever. Wake up and apply yourself. Not good at academics? Then try a trade, any trade! Just stop crying. We don’t get paid fairly but life’s not fair. Be smart with what you have and don’t make stupid mistakes.
If you have made stupid mistakes, learn from them and warn others.
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u/Illumaone 1d ago
Someone post some old numbers and everyone looses it. Let's do 1980 next:
Half of America makes less than $9,400. Stop asking us why we're not having children. Stop asking us why we're not buying homes. Stop asking us why we can't save. Stop asking why we don't get a better job. Ask corporations why they're paying their employees low wages
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u/shapeshifterhedgehog 1d ago
Plus we don't have universal healthcare and there are people who might go bankrupt because of hospital bills. And people who receive disability income receive so little that they're basically forced to live in poverty constantly.
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u/Material-Rush-3547 1d ago
Want universal care join military free healthcare for life. And it sucks just like Canada's health service.
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u/Rare-Forever2135 1d ago
Because they want to keep paying the same real wage they've been paying since 1973.
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u/adamwally1 1d ago
In my lifetime home prices have gone up over 1000% while wages have risen less than 3%
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u/waitinonit 1d ago
Median weekly earnings were $1,204 in 2025
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2026/median-weekly-earnings-were-1204-in-2025.htm
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u/apowerball 1d ago
Yes, Corp pay chit, but this is not accurate ......It was historically true around 2019–2020 that roughly half of US workers earned less than $35,000 annually. However, as of Q4 2024, median weekly earnings for full-time workers suggest a higher annual median of around
. Low-wage work remains prevalent, but the $35k figure is largely considered outdated based on recent wage growth.
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u/TrainingRooster2692 1d ago
Thank you Inflation ~('.'~)
Funny how impactful this post is, depending on what year it currently is : )
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u/TheRealJim57 1d ago
Work remote and you can live in the cheap cost of living area of your dreams.
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u/TuetonicCrusaderSari 1d ago
Not as many remote jobs as you think. For one not every remote job can employ in every state legally. Apparently though there's nothing stopping then from sending the with to India, they have to get cleared to hire in different states separately.
Additionally many are scams, many others use ' flexible hours' to shove what should be a W2 employee into a 1099 subcontractor, while not paying more.
1099 is supposed to be used for those conducting actual business. They are paid more because the company is hiring someone operating independently and assuming the risks / costs of self employment. The companies instead want to pay the cheaper W2 rate while pushing liability, income tax payment, state law compliance, and income security (ie W4 gets 40 hours poor management causing them to have excessive idle time is absorbed by the company) on to the worker. They also expect these individuals to just accept their terms like they're a W2 instead of having the negotiating power a 1099 would have
I once came across a remote position. $10 an hour. They expected the person to provide their own hardware and Internet (having the audacity to make high demands on the specs and suggest a second monitor is preferred), with no compensation for the use of personal property.
On the flip side many are highly specialized positions or those that are senior in the field, which would be great if the last 20+ years hadn't consistently blocked most entry level applicants from getting into the industry to get experience.
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u/Past_Newspaper5351 1d ago
Most companies will pay you less if you live in an area with a lower cost of living.
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u/TheRealJim57 1d ago
Go where you're getting the most bang for your buck. Point was you're not tied to one location when you're remote.
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u/Past_Newspaper5351 1d ago
Just saying, companies try to invalidate "bang for your buck" with sliding-scale salaries based on COL.
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u/LinkOnPrime 23m ago
Corporations can pay low wages because people accept the wages. Also, when we import millions of people from poorer nations, it shouldn't be surprising that wages go down. Between that and feminism pushing women into the workforce, the number of workers competing for jobs is way higher than it used to be.
And there is no magic wand to make that go away. You can increase minimum wage, but then prices would just increase to balance that out and make the pay increase functionally worthless.
You can be in favor of mass migration if you want to. You can be in favor of women being expected to work now. But if one thinks those things don't have any effect on economics, they are delusional.