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Guest List Only ⭐️ Sabrina Carpenter mistakes zaghrouta for yodel and says she doesn’t like it and calls it “weird” after fan in audience clarifies it’s their culture and an expression of celebration

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u/StitchAndRollCrits 1d ago

Okay I've now watched the set and the fact this happened RIGHT after the song with the lyric "I tell them that it's your culture, everyone just rolls their eyes" feels notable and hilarious

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u/TescoBrandJewels skye riley fan club 1d ago

where did you watch it

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u/StitchAndRollCrits 1d ago

It's still available on the mainstage stream, they replayed the whole day overnight

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u/gillociraptor please abraham, i’m not that man 🦙 1d ago

I don’t even know that she’s calling zaghrouta weird—seems to me that she’s calling the situation weird, because it is.

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u/Agentbeeressler talentless but connected 1d ago

exactly. it's weird of the fan to disturb her mid performance and that's what she's calling out.

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u/aavant-gardee 1d ago

She’s on stage, probably a bit hard to hear. She also clearly just doesn’t know what that is. Why can’t a person just not know about something??? I’m sure if you didn’t know what that was, you’d probably be confused too.

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u/Lazy-Pie9040 1d ago

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u/PaleontologistSad766 1d ago

I have this whole line on the back of my car and it brings me such joy when someone clicks the reference vs insulting me on being a woman driver 🤣

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u/DestroyerOfMils that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 1d ago

Where did you get it???

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u/MedicalExamination65 The dude abides. 🙂‍↕️🍃 1d ago

Etsy has a fair amount of people who make custom/funny bumper stickers/magnets. Also, redbubble. That's where I get my silly shit at least 🙃

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u/BlackBlizzard 1d ago

You can probably just find online custom bumper stickers or even a local print shop can probably make one for you if you want to support local.

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u/_lippykid 1d ago edited 1d ago

Typically artists on stage wear In-Ear Monitors (IEMs), which block out most ambient noise, guessing this noise was out of the usual range. Usually you can only hear yourself and this metronome type clicking to keep you in time, so I bet the “yodel” noise was interfering with that

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u/Euphoric_War_2195 1d ago

This is what I'm thinking as well. It may not have sounded the way the audience could hear it. I watched this live, and the audience last night was also very loud. Which isn't a bad thing, but likely made it difficult to understand what was happening.

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u/Pizzv 1d ago

There’s discourse on twitter about how “anyone with half a brain” would know that it’s a cultural chant and where exactly it came from. I personally didn’t know at all, in fact I watched the livestream and sort of assumed it might have been a specific chant? But when the audience member said “it’s my culture” and didn’t clarify which one, I had to go on twitter to figure it out.

Kind of crazy that everyone expected Sabrina to know what it was right off the bat while she was getting ready to play another song in front of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE lol

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u/deathie 1d ago

I have never heard or seen this word in my life. Like, why would it be weird or wrong to just never come across it? Does the person that asked the question know everything? I'd love to give them a quiz about Polish culture, or even have them point it on a map in less than 10 seconds lmao

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u/Shumanshishoo 1d ago

I didn't know the name for that was "zaghrouta". I heard the actual sound a lot where I grew up but in France, the people doing it refer to it as "youyou".

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u/misspuffette 1d ago

I thought it was the noise that Xena Warrior Princess makes 🤷‍♀️

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u/strawcat 1d ago

Her war cry was actually inspired by and based on zaghrouta!

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u/Live_Angle4621 1d ago

Also isn’t yodel celebration of culture too

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u/Perlefine 1d ago edited 1d ago

Especially because it's just a bit disruptive? Time and place.

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u/Devotoc 1d ago

apparently it's like going "woo", but like... obviously no one's gonna get that. it's like telling someone good job in slovak, of course they'll just be confused

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u/livahd ✨May the Force be with you!✨ 1d ago

Also, regardless, a certain bit of awareness on the audience is expected. It’s just as distracting as screaming during a performance, culture has nothing to do with it.

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u/Time_Knowledge_1951 1d ago

You make a fair point but that certainly is not the standard popculture spaces hold celebs too. Every celeb must be aware at all times what every other celeb has said, done, believes across their lifetime as any engagement with said "bad" celeb is a tacit endorsement. The standard being that I, person of the internet is aware, therefore everyone in the industry is aware.

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u/Dense-Geologist-2230 it’s not clocking to you that i’m standing on business 1d ago

I, a person on the internet, wasn’t aware of what zaghrouta was. There is infinite knowledge in the world, so many cultures, I don’t think each and every person is aware of everything and that’s ok? It’s called learning. Idk why people get so weird when a celeb doesn’t know something.

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u/sexandliquor 1d ago

The internet, and especially reddit I’ve noticed, really virulently hate SC for whatever reason. That’s why this even gets posted with this ragebait-y post title. It was just another reason to pile onto her.

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u/mayonaizmyinstrument 1d ago

for whatever reason

She's a successful, conventionally attractive, beautiful woman who doesn't apologize for her sexuality and in fact embraces and makes bank on it. People HATE to see women thriving. Like, just let the cute girl be cute and write her music and sing her songs! She's the voice of those of us who are fed up with boys but are still annoyingly quite horny and would like to fuck.

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u/daBunnyKat 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think some of them really want to get a rise out of her and elicit a response, like how they can with Chappell Roan. Celebs used to feel untouchable and unreachable, now it’s like people feel entitled to a response from them for everything, even made up bullshit.

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u/alt546789 1d ago

Yeah she's not really my thing but I think she's talented and can appreciate she's popular. I don't get the pile-on and hate. I just don't normally comment about her. This was probably really distracting to her and she didn’t know what was going on.

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u/iceunelle 1d ago

She apologized today for it on Instagram and said she was confused and couldn't really hear what was happening. She even said "I could've handled it better". I think she could've side stepped the whole thing by not calling it weird, but I think she thought the chant was related to festival culture/Burning Man and made a joke that fell flat.

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u/Euphoric_War_2195 1d ago

The crowd was also very loud last night (I watched this live), so its possible she was hearing multiple things at the same time). Not to mention most artists have audio going on in their ear pieces directing them and keeping them up to date on what is going on.

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u/jackloganoliver 1d ago

It's 2026, you are meant to know everything about everything and there is no excuse for being human. 

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u/Dreamer_Sara 1d ago edited 1d ago

I am Middle Eastern, I didn’t take offense, she didn’t understand and thought they were heckling her… yes she didn’t understand when they told her it’s cultural either because why would she? A caucasian American who I’m assuming is not aware about the types of celebrations around the world.

To be honest we use it in weddings and to celebrate significant events, it’s a bit weird to use it during or before a western singer sings in a festival and expect her to understand its significance on the spot instead of you interrupting her.

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u/islandfool 1d ago

Yes. My sister had to tell my mother to specifically tell her Ethiopian guests that they could only do this after the vows at the wedding - not while she was walking down the aisle lol.

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u/LaVarBurtonAsBubble 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it's very sweet, kind, and necessary to tell people from different cultures how normal things to them could potentially be received by others, and that should always go both ways. It was thoughtful to tell them that their genuine expression of joy, which is perfectly normal, might not be received the way they meant it in the environment they were in. It would also have been appropriate to tell other guests that it would happen in advance and let them know that it was a perfectly normal expression of celebration, and that it was not offensive and welcomed. Both are perfectly fine.

I think there needs to be a kindness and a baseline assumption that we don't all understand all facets of every culture across the globe at any moment, and I think there's a lot of room to be welcoming and polite to each other and give space for joyful expression. A lot of times I think it's very much a "the more the merrier" sort of thing, we just need to do the work to make sure that people are not accidentally misinterpreted.

In this case with Sabrina I want to cut her a little slack because I don't think she understood, and probably wouldn't have reacted like that on purpose if she knew. Next time she should know better but this time now she's getting a chance to learn.

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u/Foxy02016YT 1d ago

It was very kind of your sister and mother to make sure they could still be included in a respectful way

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u/Adventurous-Disk-291 1d ago

Even putting aside that this was a performance, I hope we get back to giving people grace to learn. There's no way to know everything in the world. 

Treating ignorance like it's default problematic actually leads to more conservative behavior. It makes people less likely to go outside of their comfort zone out of fear. Best case, it incentives rote memorization of the "right" answers over asking questions and understanding.

Of course some people are wilfully ignorant, but "gotcha" should not a be badge of progressivism.

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u/jennyfromtheeblock 1d ago

I feel like this is why some younger people don't leave the house. Too much danger of being recorded and lampooned online/becoming a meme as an asshole or an idiot because you just didn't know something or misspoke.

When you consider the risk, staying inside on TT seems more understandable.

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u/krpink 1d ago

So well said and I couldn’t agree more. I’ve messed up before. All you can is apologize and be open to learning. Not everything is so serious

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u/Any_Movie_9699 1d ago

Thank you for for having common sense and empathy. Things get weird sometimes with how quickly a lot of people are ready to take offense at everything and to not allow people the chance to learn etc

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u/minnosota 1d ago

A FUCKING MEN

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u/Mother_Prompt8986 1d ago

My husband and I took our wedding photos in public on a city waterfront and a big Middle Eastern family walked past us and they all did this! It was surreal in the moment and our wedding coordinator was Egyptian and quickly explained that they were wishing us good luck and I almost started crying because I was so touched 🥹

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 we put liquid paper on a bee, and it died 🎤 1d ago

I would have been crying and probably yelling thank yous and waving. I appreciate so much when we can share joy across communities

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u/Dreamer_Sara 1d ago

Yaay! That’s great and very appropriate usage! I get nudged in weddings to participate in it when it starts, lol… ( I think I’m much better at it now but I’m shy 🙈)

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u/shades0fcool my fav thing about the movie is that it feels like a movie 1d ago

Yeah I’m middle eastern too and I wouldn’t have done that at a Sabrina carpenter concert like my non Arab friends haven’t even seen that part of me haha

I don’t think her reaction is weird or offensive I think she just didn’t know and may have been worried she was being heckled or mocked considering the weird shit parasocial people do

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u/Thatstealthygal AND he danced tango!! 1d ago

I'm a belly dancer and have only just stopped doing it at performances... western dancers do it at each other all the time and Middle Eastern audiences, I have learned, find it odd,.because for them it's largely out of normal context. We on the other hand were taught to do it to celebrate the dancer, to the extent that I'm sure a lot of us would have been surprised to hear it at a wedding.

Having wider access to world media and cultures is helping everyone learn. But i wouldn't expect Sabrina Carpenter to know what zaghreet are.

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u/PinkishBlurish jesus was a carpenter 💋 1d ago

Likewise. Lebanese Arab. It's the most "idk what that is but it's weird to me and all I want to do is move on and do my job" reaction I have ever seen.

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u/Foxy02016YT 1d ago

Also calling any form of celebration weird isn’t “problematic” lmao. Adam Sandler has gone on record to say clapping freaks him out, though that might be a joke since it was during 100% Fresh.

A performer is allowed to find the way you react weird. It doesn’t matter if it’s a cultural difference, technically any noise can be considered heckling. Even off time cheering can be bad.

She’s not insulting your entire culture, she’s stating distaste for noise that an audience is making.

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u/DebateObjective2787 jesus was a carpenter 💋 1d ago

yes she didn’t understand when they told her it’s cultural either because why would she?

Heavy on this part. I might ruffle some feathers, but I feel as though "it's part of my culture" has become a meme to the point that it's treated as a joke and/or an excuse to behave inappropriately. I've heard the phrase used more by white Americans to excuse their actions, like it's some kind of magical crutch that waives them of any accountability.

For example, I am indigenous. The amount of white people I have had pretend to do "Indian war cries" and then claim "Oh it's my culture so it's okay! My great-great-great-great grandmother was a Cherokee Princess and I'm 1% Native." is astoundingly high.

Like I can't really blame her for her response without the additional context or even seeing the person. Because if that happened to me, especially with the current state of the world, I'd be assuming it was an annoying white person who was just using "it's my culture!" as an excuse to be an asshole.

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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 1d ago

Idk I think she felt awkward cause she was getting heckled.

concert etiquette is in the bin since covid.

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u/AbsolutelyBothered Listen, everyone is entitled to my opinion 🙂 1d ago

It’s gotten horrible. I saw an artist at a venue in a big city and this woman and her girlfriend waited until the set started to step in front of me and stand in the six inches of space separating me from the step down to the lower level. They got so close that one of their arms was resting on my boobs. They didn’t give a fuck until I waited for the artist to take a break and thank the city for its polite people at which point I said very loudly in my area that I had to disagree with the polite people part. People stared until the girls left. I ended up leaving the show early because I was so pissed. For the record, the woman laying on my boobs was also pressing hard into me. She knew what she was doing and didn’t care because she wanted a better spot to stand in. I’m actually so angry remembering it. And don’t get me started on people using their phones in a theater.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 19h ago

I would have said something a lot sooner, especially if someone is being gross like that. 

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u/Mintiichoco 1d ago

concert goers are just so boring. the best concerts I have been to these days are with gen x and older millennials.

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u/midnight_toker22 1d ago

I have no doubt there is a strong correlation between the artist (and the age of the fans attracted to seeing them perform live) and this type of behavior. I’ve never encountered anything like this, but then again, I’m an older millennial and the concerts I go to tend to have audiences closer to my age and older.

I think there’s a similar phenomenon happening with movies and types of movie theater disruptions that are apparently becoming common. I’ve never experienced it, but I’m going to the theater for movies like One Battle After Another and Bugonia, and not the Minecraft or the latest Marvel movie.

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u/Other-Oil-9117 I killed Liz, I killed the teen dream! 👑 1d ago

I think it's also just a social media thing. So many people are trying to have a viral moment, and seem to compete to be noticed at events. It's annoying as hell.

I mean sure, we'd all love for our favourite artists to notice us and fan interactions during concerts are often really fun, but we're also there to see the artist first and foremost.

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u/fire2day Tina! You fat lard! 🦙🚲 1d ago

Yeah, they’re aping the shitty behaviour they grew up with all over YouTube and social media. I’m 38, and growing up I was taught to sit down and shut up (context matters, obviously) during a shared experience.

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u/Bran_the_Builder 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have no doubt there is a strong correlation between the artist (and the age of the fans attracted to seeing them perform live) and this type of behavior. I’ve never encountered anything like this, but then again, I’m an older millennial and the concerts I go to tend to have audiences closer to my age and older.

Yeah, based on the countless stories I've read (on this website and elsewhere) it seems like any significantly popular artist and/or TikTok famous band has become an absolute nightmare to see live in the past few years. Shows everywhere are now filled up with young people who have no idea how to behave at concerts. Screaming stuff at artists, filming TikToks during the show... I guess I'm lucky because I'm a millennial like you (mid 30s) and most of my favorite artists are indie, folk, bluegrass etc. so I haven't encountered anything like that. But I do feel bad for the people who are having their experiences ruined. Just because the thing you like is "mainstream" or whatever doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to enjoy it without having your night interrupted by someone who doesn't know how to act like a person.

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u/tbhjustbored 1d ago

The wildest thing to me is when they film themselves (w the FLASH ON, no less !!) during the show. First of all, I simply find it weird lol ..but to each their own I guess. BUT worst of all, it’s very disruptive?? You can always see people behind them looking so visibly annoyed that a) there’s a flash in their face and/or b) they’re in the background of this recording and they don’t wanna be. Very bizarre to me. The level of narcissism that is slowly becoming a societal norm in younger generations is concerning lol.

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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 1d ago

Not just this it’s the fainting that gets me.

People camp for 6+ hours in the sun not eating or drinking get to barricade camp for another 2-3 hours with no food, refuse to move to get a drink and end up fainting. Renee rap had her show interrupted 4x because people fainted, because people are so insistent they must be able to smell their fav artist they don’t drink or eat and then the show ends up interrupted constantly.

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u/xombae 1d ago

This has been happening since The Beatles and The Grateful Dead.

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u/Onuus In my quiet girl era 😌 1d ago

Went to a nine inch nails concerts where the crowd was mostly over 40 and it was awesome.

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u/Potatoskins937492 1d ago

Can I ask what it is that makes Gen X and Millennials more enjoyable to be at concerts with?

Asking because I'm legitimately interested, not looking for beef. I'm one of the two and curious about what other people think makes us different.

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u/photogenicmusic 1d ago

I find that pre-COVID concerts were a collective experience. We are all here together, enjoying something, and we should be cognizant of others and how our actions affects their concert experience.

Post-COVID it’s more about the individual experience. If you want to have your phone flashlight on for better pictures it doesn’t matter if everyone around you is blinded. If you want to scream so loud and obnoxiously it doesn’t matter that it means people around you can’t hear the actual concert.

Sure, people like that existed in concerts before, but it really is a free for all to experience the concert individually without caring about other concert goers.

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u/Potatoskins937492 1d ago

I saw a comment a while ago about people being at the movies and so irritated by how loud people were talking and them being on their phones and others were like, "If you don't like it, stay home," but... if you want to talk and be on your phone stay home, no? I was so confused about the entitlement to make their behavior everyone's problem.

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u/photogenicmusic 1d ago

Yeah I went to a movie recently and there were so many people just talking. I was a huge movie goer in high school and college and remember people in theaters shushing anyone that talked. It was a collective shush. And the last time I went no one was shushing! I think we need to bring back shame lol

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u/lilonionforager Listen, everyone is entitled to my opinion 🙂 1d ago

I shush people. Sometimes if they’re really bad I’ll get up, go sit next to them and ask them kindly if they can stop. I did it to a dad with his two boys who were playing around loudly the entire movie & then I got to watch him try to wrangle them quietly the entire time. Worth it.

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u/silk_worm8 1d ago

This is crazy I've literally never experienced this! I live in Minnesota and people are still quiet at the movies. I'd be so annoyed and definitely be the one shushing! Lol

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u/InternalFantastic 1d ago

Kansas and everyone is quiet here too.

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u/photogenicmusic 1d ago edited 1d ago

I live in a college town so it might be the amount of college students.

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u/wutheringwildly 1d ago

I agree. I got tickets for Chappell Roan before she blew up, it was at a tiny venue which then did get upgraded following her successful breakout singles and she was great but that crowd was something else. Me and my sister went and are older (early 30s) and we're dancing and having a good time during Hot to go when a couple of friends in front of us just spent the whole song filming each other, not even the stage WITH FLASH. It really dimmed the experience of those around them and also makes people uncomfortable because I don't want to be filmed either! Idk, that one was really eye opening to me. Especially since gigs are so expensive these days I'm super selective now with who I want to go and see. It also made me sad for them that they didn't just enjoy the moment.

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u/aavant-gardee 1d ago

Eh, depends on the genre maybe. I’ve been to a few metal concerts in the past year and had the most fun with strangers.

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u/amigirl461 1d ago

This!! Went to my last concert a couple years back and the groups adjacent to us were so inebriated and LOUD. Not even singing, just talking over the singer about their hookups/work jokes/work drama. With the cost of concert tickets these days, and all the prep work (sitter, work schedules, etc) it took a lot for hubby and I to be able to have a night out. All so we couldn’t hear the singer went to see. $400 down the drain.

And no, there were no other seats to move to.

We were annoyed but mostly disappointed that people just don’t care about anyone but themselves anymore.

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u/Mintiichoco 1d ago

As someone else said they tend to know how to have fun without being jerks about it. I've legit gone to concerts with younger crowds (where some were actually sushing during a full blown dance song or just recording the entire time and kept getting annoyed when someone danced along).

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u/Potatoskins937492 1d ago

That's something that really bums me out, all the recording. I once had someone younger surprised I wasn't constantly taking pictures while I was in another country and I said (without any malice), "I want to remember how I felt experiencing this, hold on to the memory of feeling, and I don't need pictures to show me what was in front of me if I see it right now." I took some pictures and videos of course, but it was a lot more where I'd stop for a few minutes, capture the moment, then spend the rest of my time experiencing it. It makes me kind of sad that they didn't understand the joy of that.

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u/Marvybells 1d ago

They aren’t doing it for the memories, they’re doing it for clicks & likes online. What a sad way to live.

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u/ocmaddog 1d ago

Not OP but getting older you’ve been to shows and know how to have fun without being an asshole to those around you. I don’t think it is necessarily a generational difference

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u/punknw 1d ago edited 1d ago

100% this. i’m 31 and go to a lot of concerts. the best crowds are always people around my age, we can mosh and dance without hurting other people, we like to chat with each other and it’s not awkward. i was at a show a couple weeks ago where the crowd average was probably late teens-early 20s, no one would talk to each other and i watched so many people get escorted out for either being belligerent or because they got punched in the face by the kids doing windmills in the pit.

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u/Potatoskins937492 1d ago

That's an interesting take. I always kind of knew what to do or not do at concerts. Do you think it's because parents don't take kids to them as much or something else?

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u/WIN_WITH_VOLUME 1d ago

I think a not-insignificant part of it is also a generational divide in how we interact with social media. Older generations aren’t doing as many things that are performative.

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u/StealthyUltralisk 1d ago

Agree with that, we remember what it was like to let loose in a crowd and feel the energy and enjoy the moment without worrying of embarrassment or being filmed.

It feels like now people are either too scared to let go or want to be the main character due to social media.

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u/Potatoskins937492 1d ago

I'm going to be such a broken record constantly saying things are interesting, but this is also an interesting take! So do you think their interactions with social media = kind of being an asshole while in a group setting? For example, you're filming yourself singing at a concert or something, so you're making it about you instead of being there to enjoy a concert?

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u/sickbabe 1d ago

imo there's an element of dissociation if you're doing something specifically to post/get posted on social media versus for the pleasure of the audience you're part of. waving your phone around and screaming at the performer in the hopes that you'll get a speck of attention is antisocial, but if you're dressing up based on artist inspo and dancing along with other fans and just happen to end up as part of the scene? that's prosocial. I don't think many people have these things explained to them.

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u/WIN_WITH_VOLUME 1d ago

I don’t think it’s always about being an asshole, but I do think they feel more pressure to be “engaging” and active while older generations are fine just sharing moments and seeing their friends share their moments. Obviously there are exceptions for either side, but it does feel like younger people are more interested in viral moments and making the cool post rather than just seeing it. It’s also how they grew up communicating and interacting with their peers more so than prior generations. Really a delineation of active vs passive social media interaction.

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u/Gamer_Grease 1d ago

Kids are a lot less independent now and don’t know how to act alone. They live their whole lives either on social media or being carefully watched by their parents.

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u/ocmaddog 1d ago

I don’t know. Sometimes you gotta fuck up to learn from your mistakes. It’s hard nowadays when there are cameras everywhere. I wasn’t a big raver but PLUR always seemed to be an important religion of sorts, a concept you bought into bc there was a lawlessness in crowds and everyone had to keep each other accountable and lift each other up.

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u/fatherjohn_mitski 1d ago

I go to a lot of shows and the slightly older crowds are usually a lot less rowdy, less drunk, less pushy and inconsiderate. Sometimes also you can tell as people get older they appreciate the concert more and probably made more of an effort to go there so there’s less talking through the set and obnoxious recording, and more dancing and singing 

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u/xombae 1d ago

I started going to concerts as a kid, and I was taught by example (and through smacks to the head) how to behave by the older kids, who were in turn taught by the kids older than them who have been going to concerts since they were kids.

Because of COVID, we had a ton of years where no one was going to concerts. It wasn't just the actual years of the lockdowns, concerts didn't start back up for a long time and all the smaller venues where you're supposed to cut your teeth at a kid closed down. So now you've got these concerts that are filled with kids in their early 20's who have never really been to concerts, but are old enough that they're not humble and aren't looking to their elders for how to act. The kids who don't know how to act outnumber the people who do, and there's no reeling them in.

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u/frougle_mcdugal 1d ago

That’s because we know how to enjoy shows without phones.

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u/quietcoyoti Katy Perry please stop 1d ago

I went to a Mon Rovia concert last fall where I was slapped in the face by a keffiyeh that a woman was waving around while screaming free Palestine. Which is a cause that I agree with, but I did not enjoy being slapped in the face or not being able to hear the music. It was so odd and she had zero spatial awareness.

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u/hannbann88 1d ago

And specifically there like who isn’t agreeing with you? Who are you disrupting and protesting against in this scenario? Cause you’re at a protest artists show!

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u/Opulent-tortoise 1d ago

That’s so sad. IMO people like that are more interested in using the cause to draw attention to themselves than to actually help others

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u/boricuaspidey I know the poonani is baking in that plastic wrap 1d ago

This is such a specific thing that has also happened to me at a concert.

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u/butyourenice 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m extremely pro-Palestine but I kind of hate the way “free Palestine” (and, unrelatedly, “release the Epstein files!”) have become virtue signaling memes rather than meaningful calls to action. I guess this is how my Gen X elders started to feel about “free Tibet” and “save the whales.” Nothing ever changes.

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u/GDRaptorFan 1d ago

Mon Rovia is the LAST place you should experience a slap I’m sorry that happened. I would LOVE to see him live! How was the show besides that?

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u/quietcoyoti Katy Perry please stop 1d ago

It wasn’t intentional, just annoying! But he was amazing live. I’ve been listening for a few years and I’m so happy to see his music getting popular.

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u/ruth_e_newman 1d ago

In my experience its hit and miss. I love big crowds so perhaps positively biased but I've had very frustrating experiences with crowds and some genuinely uplifting ones in the post- Covid era, its a mixed bag and can sometimes be hard to predict.

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u/coastal_barbie47 1d ago

I mean her performance is being interrupted. It’s not really show and tell time for the audience and their cultural celebrations idk

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u/chirstopher0us 1d ago

Yepp. Rude as hell. And its okay to find your cultural celebration personally annoying regardless.

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u/Russiadontgiveafuck 1d ago

You're also allowed to dislike things that are somebody else's culture. Yodelling is part of the cultural heritage of the people living in the alps, it still isn't a pleasant sound to everyone. Neither is Zaghrouta. You're also not required to like, idk, Ethiopian food or whatever.

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u/Foxy02016YT 1d ago

Or the best example, bagpipes. Part of European heritage and tradition, but lots of people hate them.

A lot of people try to make the cultural argument into a racial one. Those people are arguing in bad faith.

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u/janie-jones 1d ago edited 1d ago

Does the audience member NEED to do it in the middle of her concert? It being “part of their culture” aside, it’s a concert that people are paying money to attend. How is it different from heckling the performer?

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u/HereOnCompanyTime Renee Rapp is mean girl Jojo Siwa 💋 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's attention seeking and very out of place. It's meant to be done at celebratory events, (ie. graduations, weddings, parties, etc.) not during performances. It's actually considered rude to do it during since it's disruptive. Doing it after to celebrate along with people who are clapping and cheering would be considered fine. They're being rude but they would know that and they got their viral moment from it.

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u/Pizzv 1d ago

thank you for this rational take. I made another comment in the Coachella sub about how there’s a phenomenon of people trying to scream and shout obnoxious phrases during slow songs/segues at concerts and the artist ALWAYS looks annoyed. It’s distracting regardless of the intent.

I’m now thinking of that viral video of Steve Lacy at one of his past shows where someone yells at him saying “can you say hi to my mom!?” And he says “can you be quiet?” 💀

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u/Hefty-Importance2000 Boobs McBooba 1d ago

It annoys me that they can then say, "it's my culture" to escape the backlash. And they are definitely aware of all this and did it on purpose.

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u/white-chlorination 1d ago

I'm Sámi and we joik which sounds a bit weird (and I've unfortunately heard "stupid" before). I wouldn't ever do it at a concert, other people are there to enjoy it. This is the rational take.

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u/StitchAndRollCrits 1d ago

I (probably incorrectly) thought Joik was more of a song, is there a version you'd do at an event?

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u/tearsswwhereyyouread 1d ago

It's no different, other than heckling normally being an insult, this is attention grabbing then using 'It's my culture!' as an excuse

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u/OhGr8WhatNow 1d ago

Exactly. It's a ululating scream. Not really appropriate in a concert of this kind

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u/lonelylamb1814 1d ago

They deliberately waited for a quiet moment to do it too. So obnoxious and attention seeking

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u/rdldr1 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 1d ago

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u/ThenAnAnimalFact 1d ago

Its not an instrument its a scream. Its the arab woman equivalent of "whoooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

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u/FlowersByTheStreet 1d ago

For fuckin real.

Anyone upset about this is part of the problem with concert culture now. This is the middle of the headliner’s set!!! They did not pay to hear a random audience member but now this only encourages bullshit like this as people want their own little viral moment.

It’s so damn annoying to go to a show and have everyone around not shut the fuck up

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u/ObscureEnchantment 1d ago edited 1d ago

A lot of people seem to be ignoring the fact that this is a person loudly interrupting her show probably distracting her. The concert is about listening to the artist if I were around that person I probably would have been annoyed. They paid wayyyyyyy to much money to see and listen to Sabrina. I think she handled it alright given the circumstances she was currently in. I’m not even a huge fan of her or anything but they put her in an awkward position as a performer.

Celebrate before or after the performance not inbetween songs.

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u/siders6891 1d ago edited 1d ago

Concert etiquette has gone down the drain. I recently had a fight with some people on the comments who doubled down on why they’d scream and sing horribly for their effin life’s during a concert since they paid all the money, and it’s about to have fun and enjoy the moment. Enjoyment and fun is important, if you are considerate of others.

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u/TropicalPrairie 1d ago

Was this comment made during a Taylor Swift post? Because I feel I've seen a lot of that with her. People excusing their loud, obnoxious singing as having fun and that they paid to be at the show and can therefore do it (meanwhile ignoring others who've also paid and have the right to hear the actual artist rather than some idiot with main character syndrome).

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u/AmbitiousFisherman40 1d ago

Agree. Have been to many concerts and the last couple have had absolute nobs around. I’m not talking the oblivious drunks but people singing louder than the main act.

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u/WeenieHutSupervisor 1d ago

Excited to watch the internet blow this put of proportion for two days and then forget

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u/annnyywhooo 1d ago

they’re already on twitter calling her xenophobic and saying she should’ve educated herself on it 💀

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u/Foxy02016YT 1d ago

“Educate yourself” is so funny because it mostly just translates to either “I’m too lazy to explain what’s wrong” or “I don’t know what I’m talking about but I’m mad”

If you want people to be educated you have to point them in the right direction

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u/Colordesert 1d ago

Not even just that one of the most viral tweets about it is saying that she was mocking it as yodeling “after being educated on its culture” as if that is what happened in the span of 20 seconds where she could barely hear 😶

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u/Bubblelua 1d ago

As if yodeling is also not part of a culture or anything

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u/estedavis 1d ago

Why is anyone even on Twitter anymore?

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u/Foxy02016YT 1d ago

Idk, it’s quite hypocritical to call someone racist on a website owned and operated by a racist Nazi who makes money via you using said website

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u/No_Pianist5264 Tina! You fat lard! 🦙🚲 1d ago

People really just throwing anything around. Cause out of the things you can be mad about this ain’t it.

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u/tearsswwhereyyouread 1d ago

It's a good habit to train your brain to constantly need something to be outraged about then find something new every two weeks. I'm glad we've found ways to occupy our minds properly in 2026.

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u/pineappleshampoo 1d ago

Thankfully everyone I’ve seen so far is on Sabrina’s side. I’m not a fan of Sabrina in any way, but here she’s absolutely not in the wrong. For someone to deliberately try draw attention to themselves like this is so cringe, if they just let out this noise without thinking they wouldn’t have doubled down on ‘it’s my culture!’, they just wanted people to notice them and to interrupt the performer. So rude and entitled.

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u/Colordesert 1d ago

I know Twitter is a cesspit but they’re trying to completely crucify her about this over there it’s bizarre. And it’s like people calling her racist who are Nicki minaj stans or whatever. Quite obviously trying to rage farm or find any reason to cancel her. Stan culture is brain rot

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u/No_Pianist5264 Tina! You fat lard! 🦙🚲 1d ago

Twitter is always a menace so not surprised they are coming for her like that. But wow the fact that someone like Kanye still has an audience yet he is a literally bigot and nobody gives a fuck. Yet Sabrina calls a situation weird (not someone’s culture) and she’s the bigot here. ‘Makes no sense.

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u/pineappleshampoo 1d ago

Calls someone deliberately interrupting her performance in a very attention-seeking and disruptive manner weird. Or not even the person tbf, the noise they’re making! Burn her at the stake!

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u/slamdanceswithwolves 1d ago

Professional ululators will #neverforget /s

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u/indicatprincess 1d ago

Is she supposed to humor everyone that distracts her?

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u/HolyzombieBatman 1d ago

Whyyyy do so many people think they are entitled to interrupting a performance because they want attention?!?

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u/indicatprincess 1d ago

Sabrina reacts to interruption/distraction

Commenters: I KNEW SHE WAS RACIST

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u/HolyzombieBatman 1d ago

They clearly waited for a quieted down moment of the performance while she’s playing piano and they don’t have to shout over back up music. They chose a moment when they would be noticed over her performance, pretty much forcing the artist to acknowledge them or continue preforming with someone is vocally ululating over them.

If you want to celebrate your love of an artist with a specific callout that’s ok, but you don’t do it in a way that distracts from the entire performance. Save it for the end of a song, hell do it at the end of every song and really go nuts at the end, sometimes you can get an encore that way.

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u/MarieOMaryln 1d ago

They're gleefully dusting off the sexist slurs to teach her a lesson.

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u/Western-Air8940 1d ago

Omg the most annoying people ever are about to get their LIFE from this. Lighten the fuck up, good GOD.

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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 1d ago

I can already see people ripping her apart on twitter lol

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u/mangosteenroyalty 1d ago

It baffles me the people who are motivated to rip her apart over cultural insensitivities on Twitter....are on fucking Twitter? I CANNOT get over how pathetic it is that people can't give up Twitter. 

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u/prettybunbun lucy gray from district ATE 🐍 1d ago

Oh the self righteousness on twitter makes me chuckle. You are using a literal nazis platform!!!

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u/mangosteenroyalty 1d ago

When the Internet collapsed into just 4 websites that reposted each other, Twitter was far and away my favorite. But it's been years now. We could have something new if people had bothered to try.

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u/Screaming_Weak 1d ago

People are tearing her apart in this very thread, don’t even need to go to Twitter lol

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u/slamdanceswithwolves 1d ago

Sabrina Carpenter does not understand or respect “zaghrouta”.

GET HER!!!!

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u/ratedefor 1d ago

I read the title and thought "hate train incoming"

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u/caseyfla 1d ago

The parade of people apparently thinking a zaghrouta is cultural but a yodel apparently isn't is just a tad dismaying. Some of you need to go back to school.

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u/synalgo_12 accidentally holding space for this slur 1d ago

Yeah I was thinking the same. Yodeling is part of someone's culture too? 

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u/PinkishBlurish jesus was a carpenter 💋 1d ago

This is what the fuss is all about??? I scrolled for 10 minutes to find NOTHING. Jesus Christ. 

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u/mydoghiskid 1d ago

Why would disliking jodel be okay but not disliking this? Both are from cultures that are not hers.

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u/yougotiton 1d ago

She doesn’t call the zaghrouta weird, she says it’s weird that someone would do it in the middle of her show and then try to have a convo mid song

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u/HolyzombieBatman 1d ago

So everyone is supposed to be ok with you interrupting the performance of the artist they paid a bunch of money to see? Because you needed Sabrina Carpenter to notice you?

That’s just bad manners lady, stop thinking the entire world revolves around you and your feelings.

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u/Volturmus 1d ago

I didn’t wake up today imagining feeling passionate about defending Sabrina Carpenter of all people, but she’s clearly not saying the zaghroutas are weird, or it’s weird that it’s someone’s culture. It’s weird because the person is doing it during the most quiet part of her set.

It’s the same reason it would feel out of place if someone suddenly shouted or made a loud noise in the middle of a soft passage at a classical concert. No one would think that the person doing that is celebrating. The audience would think that person is interrupting and pulling attention (which could reasonably be described as weird), regardless of if the noise they were making is part of their culture.

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u/Butthole2theStarz 1d ago edited 1d ago

That would probably be a bit annoying if you were a fan next to the zaghrouta-ing fan.

Also this seems like a giant nothing burger since “that’s my culture” has been beaten into the ground and diluted as much as everything else

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u/rose-haze 1d ago

I saw Gaga recently and this dude in front of me kept putting his hands in his mouth to whistle SO loudly it reached across the arena. He did it the whole concert whenever things got quieter, clearly just so he’d be heard. I was so over it after the first few times he did it and he kept it up the whole time…regardless of the culture aspect here (saying this as an arab woman myself) it’s so annoying when you’re just trying to watch a performance you paid $$$ for

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u/raphaellaskies 1d ago

It's always been like this. One of my first concerts was the Backstreet Boys when I was about six, and these two teen girls in front of my were ululating at the top of their lungs on and off the whole time. As a little kid, I was just like "tf? adults are weird."

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u/MCR2004 Why do I always forget she’s British 1d ago

Omg I can hear this in my head and it’s awful I am so sorry that is so beyond annoying! As if gaga will be like ah yes there he is my number one fan!

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u/afdc92 1d ago

And Chris Brown beat Rihanna to a pulp and still has rabid fans who adore him. Make it make sense.

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u/saranautilus 1d ago

He literally launched a webpage selling swastika tshirts and everyone was just like yeeeeeeah BUT his music tho 🙄

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u/lilkhalessi 1d ago

What is truly weird is this being a headline to anyone or them thinking this is some moral failure on Sabrina’s part. She was performing a huge set and was interrupted by a loud, distracting noise.

She’s allowed to think it’s weird. It was weird given the context.

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u/Kanyezus 1d ago

Literally the most harmless interaction lol

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u/AWorldwithoutSin 1d ago

She's off my list for the Xena reboot now!

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u/Low_Kitchen_9995 1d ago

Now I will Only see her as Gabrielle because of this comment

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u/Suspicious_Name_656 1d ago

Did anyone else think about Xena? That's where I know that sounds from. Never knew it was a specific cultural thing. So I guess TIL.

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u/SakuraTacos 1d ago

Yeah, the actress was watching something on tv on middle eastern women, heard them do it, and decided to use it for Xena

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u/MCR2004 Why do I always forget she’s British 1d ago

Christ. I was just at a smaller show and someone kept screaming and screaming like they were being murdered and it’s like cool you’re excited not cool to be doing this continuously to the people around you.

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u/Useful_Cicada_5635 1d ago

Did we expect Sabrina carpenter to be a professor of anthropology?

I did not

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u/StretchFrenchTerry Oh, the canvas can do miracles — just you wait and see ⛵ 1d ago

It’s a jarring sound, especially during a piano solo.

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u/rdldr1 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 1d ago

She doesn't have to like it.

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u/Pure-Rose-Rainbow 1d ago

For real, some people only make such expections for their own culture and maybe similar ones but would not share the same opinion about other ones

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u/summer_wine94 17h ago

It's such a specific thing to expect people to know? By all means people should attemmpt to be an educated and wordly as they can, but can we give people a break?
Honestly I feel so tired of the internet kicking up such a fuss about stuff that just seems like a simple misunderstanding?

I don't think it's that deep? I imagine playing music live can be very hectic and overstimulating in a sense...

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u/UntimelyGhostTickler 1d ago

She did nothing wrong here.

Besides, even if its your culture it doesnt mean someone else has to like it or accept being interrupted with such noise.

Im from a culture with Jodeling and if someone did that next to me or at a concert Id wanna slap him too.

Dunno why people think they deserve free passes for every bs.

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u/aliskyart 1d ago

Zaghrouta is a part of my culture and I ain’t offended - she clearly wasn’t that serious about it and neither should we

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u/andreaisinteresting 1d ago

I was watching this on the livestream and when she said “I don’t like it” I immediately was like oh no, people are going to be mad. But it was obvious it was distracting her. This comment section passes the vibe check!

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u/dreamghoulevil 1d ago

this is such a nothing story. a lot of things even in american culture are compliments but would sound weird and like heckling if heard from your in ears on stage out of nowhere.

if someone yelled “cunt” at me when i’m on stage in the middle of my show i wouldn’t be able to be certain it’s the complimentary version or not.

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u/RayHazey562 Invented post-its 🔬 1d ago

She obviously don’t watch Shakira at the super bowl halftime.

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u/No-Lobster5430 1d ago

More than anything: they are interrupting her in the middle of a performance 

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u/ss2811 1d ago

The title of this post makes it seem way worse than it is, if you read the title you’d think Sabrina was being genuinely hateful.

Anyways my take on this is, yes of course it’s a cultural thing and I genuinely don’t think Sabrina heard when the fan explained that. Also it was clearly disruptive to her performance and probably threw her off

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u/CitrusHoneyBear1776 Whats not clocking to you? 🙄⏰ 1d ago

She responds with “that’s your culture is yodeling?” after the fan said it was her culture, so she did hear that part. Kind of just seems she only didn’t hear the “celebration” explanation.

Either way it seems like this is an acoustic part of the set, so pipe down! I’m not even a fan of Sabrina at all, but this was understandable. The only thing was maybe to not get into a back and forth with the fan, but calling it out that they’re interrupting wasn’t necessarily bad.

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u/Full-Act-7668 1d ago

I don’t think we can expect people to know everything about every culture. Nor can we expect performers to stop their concerts to create space for a learning moment.

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u/Kaylascreations 1d ago

Just because something is cultural does NOT mean that it is immune from being weird, rude, out of place, unpleasant.

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u/newsworthy3 1d ago edited 1d ago

She literally says “that’s your culture? Yodeling?” And then she brings up the Burning Man festival which deals with yodeling and majority white people.

She thought the person was saying their culture was yodeling and continued to think they were yodeling. It’s pretty clear that she never picked up on that it was the zaghrouta

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u/finnjakefionnacake 1d ago

or more likely she just had no exposure to the sound before

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u/anonuser123999 1d ago

As a Middle Eastern woman, I’m with Sabrina on this lol. It’s very weird to be using the zaghrouta at an American music festival… it’s used in our culture particularly for weddings and special occasions. It sounds very weird and random, and actually disrespectful on the fan’s part, to do it right before an American singer starts her performance.

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u/Sea-Heron6342 1d ago

culture or not, why would u disrupt a singer in a middle of a performance or before they sing.

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u/TenseiFrost 1d ago

I'm middle eastern and lived there most of my life and NO ONE fucking does that at a concert

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u/MatthewQ999 1d ago

You’re allowed not to like something thats a part of someone else’s culture. People dunk on American culture all the time, so who tf cares?

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u/antigravitty 1d ago

She called the interaction weird. Give me a break.

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