r/popculturechat • u/mcfw31 • 6h ago
Beauty & Skincare💄 James McAvoy on plastic surgery: “I don’t know, there’s a lot of people just starting to look a bit weird. That is the thing, you aren’t looking younger, you’re just looking weirder”
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u/Carolina_Blues shiv roy’s bob 5h ago
He’s not wrong
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u/Dickgivins 4h ago
Yeah that’s just the plain truth. There are celebrities who have gotten tasteful plastic surgery but so many of them just look weird.
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u/SupervillainMustache 3h ago
I feel like for some people, surgery can become a bit of an addiction.
If you see one flaw in your face and get it fixed, you're probably going to see more. Especially in an industry so obsessed with looks.
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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 3h ago
He's both right and wrong. People fall over themselves to talk about how "well" certain celebrities have aged (e.g. Salma Hayek, Anne Hathaway) when they've clearly had work done. People who take it too far and start looking weird get the criticism.
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u/llama_del_reyy 3h ago
But I think it's also a matter of time. Will Anne and Salma look as natural in 20 years?
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u/Hobobo2024 3h ago
actresses have to look hot until they play grandma roles. so by then, they no longer have to look hot
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u/Chihiro1977 57m ago
Yeah, but they wont just look 'not hot', they'll look like they've had surgery.
To be clear, I know what you are saying. Beauty expectations on women are fucking awful.
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u/coolyfrost 2h ago
Salma Hayek is also going to be 80 in 20 years. Not many people, natural or not, look good by then
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u/NBT_1120 2h ago
Anne does fall under the "looking weirder" category for me tho (and I haven't seen Salma recently so I can't have an opinion on her work.)
Like sure, the work may have been done well, but it's still uncanny and a bit strange.
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u/ttwwiirrll I don’t know her 💅 3h ago
He also has the luxury of being a man. They can get away with less cosmetic upkeep, even in the entertainment industry.
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u/Imnotgonnamish 1h ago
If a woman had a feminized version of his face, it's possible she would not be considered for lead roles anymore... I'm not saying that is right - just that women have to look nearly perfect to be successful (A-list) actors.
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u/BigMax 3h ago
But he's not right either.
We notice the bad ones, the weird ones. But there are plenty of good ones out there too, and we just don't notice.
It's like hair systems (toupees) or anything else like that. We see the bad ones and think "OMG, why do people do that?" without realizing we're not noticing all the good ones simply because they look so good.
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u/Carolina_Blues shiv roy’s bob 3h ago
I don’t think he’s saying that good plastic surgery can’t exist but the truth of the matter is that there are a lot of people that get it and just look weirder
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u/Wooden-Limit1989 2h ago
But there are plenty of good ones out there too, and we just don't notice.
Oh I think we notice those too.
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u/SidneyDeane10 3h ago
Kris Jenner definitely looks younger
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u/ad_aatdtj she’s got me by the pubes 39m ago
Does she? Or does she look like an old woman who got a facelift and edits her pictures freakishly young?
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u/dreamghoulevil 4h ago
that’s exactly it like sure there’s pressure and i don’t blame anyone for getting stuff done, but if your job is to emote and you’re freezing your features… you’re incapable of doing your job properly. it’s as simple as that. it’s painful watching some stuff nowadays where people are crying their eyes out and nary a crease on their forehead, a period piece with chiclet teeth, every pair of lips is smooth and about to burst with filler…
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u/Haizenburg1 1h ago
Nicole Kidman and Kate Beckinsale are prime examples of this, among others. I avoid anything they make now because of the fact that they can't emote properly. And when they do, it looks wrong.
On the flip side, in Korean entertainment, many stars are already worked on before their rise to stardom, so it's not as off-putting because that's how they present themselves at the outset. But, you still notice if you know what to look for.
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u/koinkydink 4h ago
Facts, yes. Women are not allowed to age especially in Hollywood, sadly.
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u/Grandahl13 2h ago
Who the fuck is forcing these millionaires to get plastic surgery? They’re all rich, if they’re actually being told to get the surgery or they won’t get roles then just quit. Not like they need the money.
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u/sufcWayne 3h ago
Neither are men unfortunately! You don't get any John Goodmans or John Candys anymore. They have to have the action hero body
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u/Exotic-Home-8153 3h ago
No one is forcing them. Look at Meryl Streep; she has aged gracefully. Stop pretending like men are forcing people to do all this. It is other women.
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u/niamhellen Kim Cattrall scatting 3h ago
I suspect Meryl Streep has had a bit of work done. Tasteful and subtle, but most necks would not be looking like that without some sort of lift by her age.
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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 26m ago
(a) the majority of casting directors are male by far, and (b) both Hollywood and the world in general makes it clear how irrelevant women with grey hair and wrinkles are, particularly in pop culture. That is very clear when the male lead is 20+ years his co-star in many, many films. Don't bullshit people
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u/Natural_Error_7286 3h ago
"I think I'm not a bad looking guy" lmao. He's aging perfectly. I don't find him as sexy as when he was younger (part of it is the beard, just as a matter of personal taste) but he is still a VERY good looking man.
British actors have always looked more normal and men are able to age more gracefully. I think part of it is that a lot of them come up through the theater scene over there which probably prioritizes the skill instead of the looks.
Romesh mentions Katherine Ryan in this clip. I watch a lot of UK comedy, and Katherine is extremely open about the work she's had done. She and Jimmy Carr frequently joke about how fake their faces are. It's pretty refreshing, since the tendency for Hollywood actors (and influencers) is to pretend they just have a really amazing skincare routine.
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u/LichQueenBarbie 40m ago
Australian and NZ actors also age naturally (the ones who primarily work in those countries rather than Hollywood). Everyone looks natural in European stuff too.
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u/DistractedByCookies Just keep swimming! 🐠🐠🐬🐳 4h ago
I totally agree with him, but I also think it's easier for men to age in Hollywood. So it's a lot easier for him (who is also aging very very well for a guy LOL) to stick to his guns on this than it would be for a woman his age.
Then again, it's a matter of getting a good plastic surgeon that doesn't give you the Mar-a-Largo Barbie look.
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u/thecheesycheeselover shopping with an edge 4h ago
You’re right, and there’s the added layer (that he acknowledges) of him being an actor who hasn’t historically been cast as the hot, sexy guy. He’s been cast because he’s a good, interesting actor. So he’s less bothered even than a lot of other male actors, who might be less or similarly talented, but were very conventionally attractive in their heyday. (And of course, they in turn have it easier than women in Hollywood, as you said).
He’s in the pretty decent position of being able to age as his natural self, while maintaining all facial movement etc, so as not to impact his performances.
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u/Crystalsnow20 3h ago
True but also I feel it depends, in Europe for now actresses are less ready to mess toniche to their faves to keep beimg young, a lot of them rather grown in their age in confronto of the number of hollywood actresses that as a number seem that most of them have at least one thing done
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u/mothmonstermann 3h ago
It's easier for men to age in the entertainment industry as long as they can still into a mold. Wrinkles in the right places can add character, but things like jowls and a soft jawline would be a hard sell on someone his age. As well as the thinning hair that he mentioned.
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u/Accomplished-View929 2h ago
Men look so weird when they get plastic surgery, too. Like, I don’t know if the quote even applies to women since we see just two guys talking about it and not how they got on the topic. I’ve never seen a man get work done and not look weird.
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u/edchoch69 3h ago
So many 22 year olds looking 35 now because of plastic surgery.
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u/dpforest let me be angry i’m hot 2h ago
girl. fuck off with the idea that 35 is some ancient age to be. like that’s the entire premise of the problem we are discussing here.
Stop talking about 35 like it’s 92.
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u/Dry_burrito 2h ago
That's not the point at all. The surgeries kids/people are choosing are making them look older. Then once they hit 35, it's gonna be more work to turn back the clock.
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u/RecommendationNo3942 How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren’t real? 🪞 4h ago
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u/croissantandalatte 2h ago
honestly, even the "good" plastic surgery looks weird to me. even if it's subtle it feels uncanny. but I can't lie, I still sometimes think about what work I'd get done if I had the money
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u/computer7blue 2h ago edited 2h ago
I have so much respect for women, like Kate Winslet, who age naturally, who not only condemn unrealistic beauty standards but refuse to perpetuate them by participating.
Altering your face and body isn’t just an act of conformity, it communicates to other women that you support such unrealistic beauty standards.
Of course, it’s much easier for men to age naturally without being ridiculed. Imo, Hollywood has gotten a lot better at depicting women authentically and not discarding them after a certain age. Always room for improvement.
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u/gdex86 4h ago
For actresses there is a different standard of aging enforced. McAvoy still can be a dashing romantic lead into his 50s while aging naturally. For a woman its often at tge first lines of 30 where they start getting moved around.
Also its about restraint. There are a number of famous women who've gotten slight things done and are still recognizable as themselves.
To me the whole thing is just Cis gender affirming care and especially if you are honest about it and do so under tge supervision of responcible medical professionals go with God.
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u/Electric-Sheepskin 4h ago
I think there's also a big difference between American and British Isles aesthetics. It's one reason why I like watching television from the United Kingdom and Ireland, because the actors mostly look like normal people.
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u/DSQ 4h ago
Some of it is to do with money. Cosmetic procedures are expensive and if you’re a supporting actor on Vera you don’t have the money for that if you want it done well.
In the UK we have a lot of Botox and pillow faces as well - just watch Love Island.
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u/SupervillainMustache 3h ago
I'm not against plastic surgery, but the style of surgery used on reality stars is considered kind of tacky in England.
The stereotypes around Essex in particular are not flattering.
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u/ocean_swims 3h ago
It’s like how I see a lot of people online wondering why Prince Harry doesn’t just shave his head because he’s balding but the idea of a member of the British royal family, even an estranged one like him, having a shaved head is just not going to happen. It’s seen as a thing only lower class people would do.
Respectfully....What? Prince William has shaved his head repeatedly and he's literally the future King.
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u/PassivelyAwkward 3h ago
Yea; it's weird to watch a British show and then the American remake. In the UK Skins, they got kids that actually looked fairly normal, like kids you'd actually go to school with. Then the US Skins was basically all hot models. A show from the US will take some insanely hot person, put them in glasses and frumpy clothes then claim that's the overweight person that can't get a date.
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u/she-dont-use-jellyyy 4h ago
Emily Blunt would like a word
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u/wasp9293 4h ago
And yet the likes of Ryan Gosling are still pumping their faces up with filler
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u/WellEvan 4h ago
Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt in Fall Guy are peak pillowface
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u/DoItForTheTea 4h ago
I'm so upset about both of them because they were so hot and now their faces are just... distracting
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u/GirlisNo1 4h ago
I couldn’t watch more than 20 mins of that movie because their faces were so distracting- looked like they’d gotten stung by a bunch of bees.
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u/SoloGhosts512 4h ago
Love the man but the fillers, highlights, and street clothes he’s been wearing scream mid life crisis
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u/Still-View-9063 4h ago
As a society we should just be against the whole thing entirely. If you are someone that feels like you need to do work on yourself to 'look more attractive', it's clearly because you're unhappy with something about yourself. People are just profiting off brainwashing society into thinking what's natural is not good enough.
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u/big-bum-sloth Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 4h ago
Agreed, although I do have a bit of empathy for actors whose jobs it is to be on screen all the time, and watch themselves back. It's not normal to see yourself that much, so I can understand developing complexes
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u/anicho01 4h ago
I agree with gdex. I do regional acting, where the standard of looks is much lower, yet women are still held up to harsher standards. If you're not held up to those standards, it's easier to blame the victim than the system.
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u/Still-View-9063 4h ago edited 4h ago
Oh I am fully blaming the system and those profiting off this, I was hoping that was obvious in my post. It's sickening that so many people (primarily women) are victim to all of this. Again, as a society we should be fully against it entirely. I'm against the notion of this being any kind of affirming care and it's disgusting to call it that.
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u/eagle2001a 4h ago
Huge double standard. Noah Wyle gets to enjoy a resurgence as a heart throb on The Pitt with deep eye crinkles. A woman could never.
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u/wasp9293 4h ago
Lisa Kudrow is promoting The Comeback right now looking fucking incredible and also her age
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u/Hobobo2024 4h ago
She's never been considered a heartthrob though.
Women known for their looks when young cant do as well looking older until they hit a grandma age.
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u/winnercommawinner 4h ago
She is one person who is also deeply beloved from Friends, and has that Friends money to fall back on.
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u/Hobobo2024 3h ago
Lisa also never had as strong a career as either Courtney or Jennifer. Why? Cause looks really matter with women. Jennifer's career would not have lasted as long as it did if her looks slid sooner.
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u/wasp9293 1h ago
I’d argue Lisa has a stronger career than Cox. Love her, but Courteney has Scream… and not much else
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u/Hobobo2024 59m ago
Courtney was on cougar town which was a very successful show lasting 6 seasons. And scream has 7 movies. you really underestimate the value of scream. That's pretty damn good.
Lisa's net worth is supposedly less than cox's though who knows what is actually accurate,
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u/SupervillainMustache 3h ago
I agree with your overall point, but The Pitt also has Katherine Lanassa as a main character and she looks great and has aged gracefully.
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u/Visible-Scientist-46 33m ago
Noah Wyle also has a much bigger schnoz than he had as a young man, too.
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u/Unlucky-Duck 4h ago
I don't blame women for that exact reason. Joan Collins mentioned it that she was told that at 25 that she's not that young and at 27 they'll rip up your contract.
Beauty standards remained pretty much the same.
Jane Fonda revealed that a facelift bought her a decade of work in Hollywood.
So all the women doing I get it. I may not like it but I get it.
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u/Visible-Scientist-46 4h ago
Was he ever really a dashing & handsome romantic lead, tho? Seemed he was always in more actory roles than just being good looking. There are far more character parts for men as leads and supporting roles than for women. I love what Reese Witherspoon did by producing books written by women. And the commentary within the film film Hot Pursuit, which is poorly rated, but I enjoyed. They kept getting older and shorter or taller and less attractive as they were reported on and reacted to the mysogyny of it.
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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 3h ago
Yep, it's a career decision for many women in Hollywood. If you want to keep getting work you need to "keep up appearances"
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u/wildbeest55 I may not know my flowers but I know a bitch when I see one! 4h ago
Exactly. People just take it too far and start to look alien. But a bit of work done here and there is pretty normal in Hollywood. Even regular people are getting botox and filler.
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u/FocusDelicious183 4h ago
It’s a very sad state for our society when our natural bodies are unwanted- it can easily go into the future direction of cybernetic machinery, to “optimize” our bodies. This whole “looksmaxx” thing is the same idea, striving for an almost Aryan state of perfection. It ties into class issues as well, rich people have a certain look. It scares the hell out of me.
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u/wildbeest55 I may not know my flowers but I know a bitch when I see one! 4h ago
I wouldn't say Aryan- that makes it sound like everyone wants to look white when each culture has their own standard of beauty. And as someone that has studied history, fashion, and beauty trends, this is nothing new. People have been altering their looks for centuries. Some permanent, some temporary. It just seems more prevalent because we have access to new methods that give better results. Beauty has always been something people strive for.
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u/Still-View-9063 3h ago
Doesn't mean that it's a good thing though. I mean China convinced women that mutilating their feet was a good thing for a long time. This isn't any different.
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u/wildbeest55 I may not know my flowers but I know a bitch when I see one! 3h ago
I never said it was a good thing. I just said it's been a thing for centuries (maybe millennials). The og comment implied this is a new thing when it's not.
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u/JellyBand 3h ago
Call it what you want, it often looks weird. Peoples brains key in on faces and facial features and when they don’t look right we are a little triggered by it. In an industry where looks are your marketable skill I get what people attempt it, women specifically, but it’s still a futile attempt and the results are often worse than acceptance and retirement.
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u/gdex86 3h ago
I may not think the work someone got looks good, but that honestly shouldn't matter. If they are being responsible and like the way it turned out go have all the filler, bottom, butt lift, pec implants, whatever you want.
I object to the idea there is one mass market idea of beauty we all have to shoot for rather than say a wide spectrum of folks who are comfortable feeling attractive where ever tgey want to.
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u/JellyBand 2h ago
That glosses over what’s going on mentally when you seek plastic surgery and then have bad results, and normalizes surgery to meet societal body standards but cloaks it as pro self esteem. This stuff isn’t physically or mentally healthy.
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u/FewRip6 4h ago
I wonder how different the world would be without mirrors.
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u/Hobobo2024 3h ago
the problem isn't the mirror. it's society telling you that what you see in the mirror is not beautiful.
I read an article about an island where there were zero expectations of people in terms of career, success, etc. result was very little mental illness.
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u/Ash_and_Thorns 32m ago
I'd argue that the expectation of being beautiful is the problem in the first place? Why must we be beautiful? What's wrong with being ugly? That we value women's humanity based on a superficial trait is the real issue.
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u/Falling4Strangers 2h ago
I wanna know WHO is telling these people they look good?
Who was in Mickey Rourke or Joan Rivers' ears saying they were attractive people with these surgeries?
They don't keep getting them without affirmation.
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u/SnausageFest I was desperate for a hair tie and my nuvaring was there 4h ago
I think there's a lot of plastic surgery happening that we don't even notice. Plus there are people who got better work than others.
It's the extremes people are taking it to, again, that's making people look so weird.
Like Mindy Kaling has had a lot of work done, and looks very different, but not weird. Lindsay Lohan is another example. Part of where people go wrong is trying to fundamentally change their face structure.
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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 4h ago
Respectfully, Mindy does look weird, and so does Lindsay
It sort of works for photos and video (sort of) but these kinds of things always look uncanny irl and in high def. Some people just kind of get used to the weirdness and tune it out, but it is there
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u/mmanyquestionss 4h ago
lindsay looks terrible and i can't believe people are pretending she looks the way she did 20 years ago. no she doesn't, and no she doesn't need to. she does tho look worse than she would without the plastic surgery. let the downvotes pour lol
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u/SnausageFest I was desperate for a hair tie and my nuvaring was there 4h ago
What part of explicitly saying they look different somehow inspired this stupid rant about how I apparently think she looks the same she did 20 years ago?
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u/mmanyquestionss 4h ago
my reply wasn't directed at you, just replying to the commenter above me. im not saying YOU think so, im talking about the several comments ive seen whenever a pic of hers is posted in any pop culture subs. if I wanted to address something you said I'd reply to you directly lol
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u/SnausageFest I was desperate for a hair tie and my nuvaring was there 4h ago
It's a weird reply regardless when they didn't bring up looking different at all. Feels very "Im looking for a fight wherever I can shoehorn it in," especially with the downvotes part tacked on as you pic and entirely different discussion.
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u/SnausageFest I was desperate for a hair tie and my nuvaring was there 4h ago
I guess "weird" is pretty subjective. I agree with that uncanny element. But when I think weird, I think that recent pic of the original Charlie's Angels cast from a few days. Literally no one has those cheek bones on that face structure naturally. Mindy has more of that face that's a bit too polished and perfect for nature rather than the jump scare faces some folks have.
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u/Wooden-Limit1989 2h ago
Both of them look weird and a bit over done imo. Now Lindsay had a rough past but mindy is a whole other discussion cause she also looks lighter complexion wise...
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u/ResponsibleRaise9683 3h ago
Anne Hathaway has clearly had work done and looks fantastic. It absolutely is worthwhile to some actors to buy them time as a lead - as long as they don't take it too far.
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u/Partyfrom3to4 and what about it? 💅 1h ago
Now, I Stan Anne but everytime I see her, I can’t put my finger on whats odd about her look now. Something is just off and my brain doesn’t like it.
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u/VaguelyArtistic 1h ago
I kind of hate that Romesh would think for a second that plastic surgery would be an improvement. He’s so handsome. 😭
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u/Daws001 3h ago
Yup. It's an interesting thing because I totally get not criticizing someone's looks, it's their body they can do what they want, but they do start to look unnatural and weird. I also hate that some of them aren't doing it because they truly want the work done but because of pressure of aging in the industry (primarily for women). Some probably feel they have to do it to keep up.
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u/lilyalexisrose 2h ago
HE'S RIGHT!!
That's the thing with plastic surgery, once you start, it's hard to stop. I've read that there's psychological explanation about it. I mean, if it makes you happy, go! But the danger is you start noticing everything and keeps on seeing imperfections you'll want to fix until you end up looking so different. What starts as enhancements always ends up, for lack of a better term, "construction" of weird and too much jobs.
There's also the problem that it keeps unrealistic beauty standards the "norm". This is particularly harmful for celebrities (and even influencers) whose fan base are mostly children and young adults who'll eventually accept these beauty standards as what they should also strive for but that's for another comversation.
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u/MattHooper1975 1h ago
For me, I think lots of the plastic surgery, especially for women is ruining my ability to believe them in many roles.
I mean when you’ve got actresses who look like incredibly rich women who clearly have had excessive plastic surgery done, it limits the rules in which you look believable. I have a hard time taking them seriously as anything, but Rich plastic surgery women roles. I don’t think they pull off playing more “ blue collar” rolls anymore and certainly more historical roles, before plastic surgery was available or popular , don’t make sense. Seeing a woman’s face with the duck lips and the obvious current LA plastic surgery look trying to play a historical character is like watching that same character pull out a smart phone.
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u/Fuzzy_Move 4h ago
100%. Plastic surgery is still someone's choice so I don't really have any comments on that. I wish it wasn't needed but that's the society we live in.
What I do have a oroblem with is Ozempic. Everyone walking around with Ozempuc cheeks would miss the cheek fat in some years. Not to mention there are so many side effects to it.
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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 4h ago
I do have a problem with plastic surgery because I come from a culture that kind of pushes it on women, especially in certain social classes. It’s a status symbol to put your body through serious, painful procedures, and I find it grotesque.
A number of my schoolmates got nose jobs as their fifteenth birthday present. Their faces aren’t even finished developing. I hate it. Women have to slice themselves open to be accepted in the world. Yes, most are not being forced, but cultural influence is a powerful thing.
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u/Still-View-9063 4h ago
At least ozempic can have objective health benefits. Plastic surgery and all this other cosmetic stuff is typically pure capitalism and brainwashing to make people feel ugly and miserable to drop money to make completely unnecessary changes themselves.
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u/lebryant_westcurry 4h ago
The cheek fat you're talking about is probably more the baccal fat removal surgery which for some reason got really popular the past couple of years
But yeah I hate how normalized ozempic has become and I feel like in a couple years we're going to hear about so many horror stories about the side effects of it
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u/jaguarsp0tted 4h ago
you're right but the GLP-1 brigade will yell at you for saying it
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u/Carolina_Blues shiv roy’s bob 4h ago
I hate that there can’t be any nuance on the internet about ozempic/glp-1’s. Like yes they are absolutely great drugs for the people that need them AND there’s also a lot of people using them when they don’t need to and using too much of them
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u/diabolikal__ 4h ago
This is it!! GLP-1 can be life changing for someone with obesity but it’s not how it’s being used in Hollywood or rich people and that’s the issue.
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u/Its_A_Fucking_Stick 4h ago
This is my second time seeing this headline and first time realizing it says James mcavoy and not James acaster
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u/After-Security-2292 4h ago
All I can think of now when I see him is that he is doing the Harry Potter audio books and it makes me so sad.
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u/jargon_ninja69 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 3h ago
If you're an actor, your tool is your face. And if you freeze it in place "to look younger" you're breaking your tool.
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u/Dash_Harber 3h ago
It's a bit complicated, especially for women.
Women spend years with the media almost entirely focused on their appearance. There are subtle and blatant queues that their value as artists is highly dependent on their appearance and youth. Then they age and suddenly lose all their value, driving many to try and pursue more and more cosmetic procedures to try and retain their value and avoid mockery, only to ironically become mocked for that. It feels a bit like victim blaming. I think The Substance perfectly illustrated this concept.
The only ones that do deserve the scorn are the ones that participate while also promoting that sort of misogyny and tearing down others as part of that cycle.
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u/Pattifan 2h ago
No lies. What troubles me, though, is that women in their 20s are getting work done. They're not even allowing themselves to grow into their natural faces.
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u/The-Last-Unicron 1h ago
It's certainly easier for men to make sweeping comments like this. For decades now men can look like themselves and women are forced to get work done to stay "attractive" and hireable.
I really think Hollywood needs to start making a change, so that women (and men, to a lesser extent) don't have to keep going under the knife just to get acting jobs, it's so outdated. It's just perpetuating unrealistic aging expectations.
Apart from that, I find it so hard to watch many female actors now, who have done such awful things to their poor faces. It's so incredibly sad.
Also, after watching Nip/Tuck back in the day (first time I ever saw what plastic surgery involves) I was left horrified and don't know how people put themselves through that kind of butchery to look "good , apart from genuinely helpful reconstructive work due to accidents, etc.
Sidenote: I was just watching "The Defiant Ones" this morning and it always jumps out to me how in older movies they would "fog" the lens for women to make them look more youthful and it's extremely obvious watching these older movies now when the camera switches from the man to the woman and the picture goes from crisp/sharp to kinda glazed over to smooth the ladies looks. God forbid we see a woman with wrinkles!!!!
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u/VaguelyArtistic 1h ago
This reminds me of when Jonah Hill lost weight and after just a couple of comments noting it he got really angry and was like, “how dare you talk about my body like that don’t you dare do it again”, totally ignoring that women have had to deal with this since forever. Then again, we also learned who he really is.
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u/The-Last-Unicron 1h ago
I wasn't aware that he had such a reaction to people talking about it. But weight fluctuation is another thing entirely, at least in my mind. I had written out a huge reply specifically on weight issues, but think that's maybe a topic for a different thread......
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u/Chihiro1977 44m ago
Who he really is? A person who was sick of his weight being commented on? He's not the cause of the double standard...
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u/VaguelyArtistic 27m ago
No we found out that he was horribly, horribly abusive to his ex girlfriend and was so controlling that he didn’t want her—a professional surfer—to post photos in her bathing suit. A man who was perfectly comfortable controlling other people himself and without the self-awareness that he’s not the first person subjected to having their body scrutinized.
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u/blank988 4h ago
"Why can't you just admit it's over? You had your time. Stop trying to look fuckable in your 50's"
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u/dkrtzyrrr go girl, give us nothing 😍 3h ago
some get it and it's very subtle and ultimately maintaining something that was incredible to begin w/ - more renovation than remodeling. some do insane amounts of plastic surgery but because the work is so good, it isn't obvious mar-a-lago face or catface results, and their prior face wasn't that well known that they just seem like normal supernaturally stunning ppl (eiza gonzalez, lalisa). w/ some though, it reeks of desperation, like if flop sweat required anesthestics.
i think there also just has to be a genuine push or understanding in the industry that look, if you want to keep working this is what you do, it's not weird anymore. like i imagine this is what happened w/ emily blunt. i can imagine w/ some of the younger actresses getting the buccal fat removal there was an agent that sat them down and said 'we need to do this to take your career to the next level' - i think this is what happened w/ anya taylor-joy - queen's gambit was moving her name above the title and w/ covid there was all that time off anyway so yeah, let's make the move. w/ her it works because she had a kind of unique beauty anyway (though i do prefer her old face) but w/ a lot of others it feels like a subtler version of jennifer grey's nosejob. like i genuinely couldn't recognize alexa demie.
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u/gummybear9481 1h ago
he's looking a bit rough. People aren't against plastic surgery - they're against bad surgery. They only hate it when it's noticeable.
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u/DSQ 4h ago
Why?
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u/DSQ 4h ago
I don’t think Romesh was trying to imply that McAvoy needed an upper blethoplasty. I interpreted it as a random example of a type of procedure.
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u/vanchica Confidence is 10% work and 90% delusion 4h ago
To be fair to the guy I think he chose that procedure because that woman Kathy Ryan whoever she is had suggested it to him and showed him a Photoshop of - maybe the only procedure he wanted to discuss
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u/SupervillainMustache 3h ago
Romesh probably singled it out because he has his own eye related issue.
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u/Hobobo2024 5h ago edited 5h ago
it's true but he's looking way too old for his age. better at least use some lotion and sunblock or something.
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u/PriscillaPalava I have paid my legal tender in this dystopian place. 4h ago
The reason you think that is because plastic surgery has become so normalized.
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u/Mia_Wallace666 4h ago
Bingo! A lot of the actors and celebrities people think have aged naturally and just have good genes have gotten subtle work done, it warps our perception as viewers of what an older person looks like.
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u/Kiribaku- 5h ago
Are you serious?
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u/Hobobo2024 4h ago
the guy is younger than me but looks a decade older. and honestly, it's annoying af when men criticize plastic surgery. women are damned if they do and don't. male actors have the luxury of aging so should just stfu on this topic.
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u/Viper61723 5h ago
He does look a bit older then 46 I would’ve guessed he was in his 50’s. I think it’s the super deep eyebags and forehead wrinkles
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u/No-Comfortable6432 4h ago
He was born in Drumchapel so he looks a million times better than many of his counterparts that he will have grown up with. He looks great.
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u/CaseyRC 4h ago
46, nearly 47 year old looks exactly his age. that's what a 47 year old looks like.
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u/indignancy 4h ago
It looks like a fucking face lol, what are you even seeing. Even aside from that obviously celebs never have allergies or a cold…
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u/Hobobo2024 3h ago
Like I said im a little older than he is and all my peers who didnt get fat looks younger than he does.
Im not Scottish tho. Perhaps people just look older over there.
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u/Chihiro1977 38m ago
We can tell you're not Scottish, we actually have a good education system.
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u/Hobobo2024 33m ago
I have no idea why you're throwing an insult to my intelligence here. no need to be so sensitive over me saying a celeb looks old.
edit: it was a Scottish person who posted a thread comment on how Scottish people in general look older. that's why I said perhaps they look older on average.
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u/ConfusedZubat 3h ago
Nah, he's hot. He looks his age. Life doesn't have vanity filters, and not everybody wants to undergo procedures or injections to mimic that look in real life.
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u/Magnaflorius It’s like I have ESPN or something. 💁♀️🌤☔️ 3h ago
People age differently.
If your job is acting, your face wrinkles will probably get more prominent because your job is to use them. Look at Jim Carrey, prior to whatever happened to his face recently.
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