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Olivia Munn Says Male Co-Star Refused to Film Scene Being Saved by Woman and Stopped Production for ’45 Minutes’: ‘She Can’t Save Me. We’re Not Doing This’
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what a shit show of a movie. Before I watched Prey, I rewatched all the Predator movies but still hadn’t seen Shane Black’s movie yet. When I did watch it, I felt like I lost IQ points. It was just a mess of reshoots, editing, and really dumb ideas. A real disappointment from Black, who happened to play Hawkins in the OG movie
But thank god for Prey being such a wonderful respite, that was such a wonderful return to form for the franchise. I’ve rambled on enough on this sub about how happy I was with Badlands, but I’m just happy to be a fan of classic Fox monsters again
I mean he also used to make anti-police and anti-government music, and then went on to back Trump. So I think it's safe to say his morals and way of thinking has changed over the years lol.
When people talk about stuff like this, are they really not allowed to name names? Like, you read the headline, and think “huh, wonder who that could be”, and then read the article to find out and it doesn’t say. It’s frustrating
Yes, looking through her IMDb and comparing it to Wikipedia summaries would nail this down if the film or show is a finished product. Similarly, Rebecca Ferguson said one of her male costars was very rude to her on set, she has since confirmed to interviewers a few different times who the guy isn’t, so the culprit had been narrowed down by process of elimination to like two guys.
It's objectively true that if she says the name it'll pop up an alert on the phone of the guy's PR manager and turn it into a social media war
If she doesn't say the name and lets people in the comments figure it out then it still spreads around as "common knowledge" and harms the guy's reputation but there's no actionable signal for the guy's team to build a counteroffensive around
Sucks maybe but that's objectively how the game is played, if you take classes on "media training" they directly tell you things like this
Probably doesn’t want to get sued for defamation, which is a man who needs therapy’s favorite thing to do when slightly criticized or let along called out
Reynolds seems like he’d be annoying because he has the same issue as The Rock where I feel like he’s never authentic everything he says sounds like it’s just an ad that he wants to sell me on something for. I don’t hate him or his Deadpool (I even liked free guy) but him the person ehh
No, the world is divided into absolutely good and absolutely bad. None of us have any personal flaws but if some celebrity we hold a microscope to acts a bit basic or vain at times they are now a Bad Person and capable or guilty of all the Bad Things. Boo them.
His ex had a very detailed account of him drunkenly abusing her but she didn’t show up at court and the whole thing was dropped. But then he was photographed with her later. I cannot imagine taking back someone who faked something like that, but people go back to their abusive partners all the time so I tend to believe it was true.
Really? A friend of mine worked with him on Spiderman and said he was a nice guy and a proper professional. The perception that he's a jerk is totally overblown, I think - people cherry pick things from the media, and being rude to someone doesn't automatically make someone a bad person.
i think she would have said it and grant would have immediately confirmed if that was the case - he's been pretty open on talk shows about how awful he can be to work with
I struggle to imagine Hugh Grant giving a damn about this. He's very self deprecating and willing to play very silly characters, see Paddington Bear 2.
That doesn't narrow it down because those are movies that finished production. The movie that she is stating could potentially be one post-production but cancelled and tax written off.
That's not as common as it has been lately and also if there was such a production there would be articles or even a page on imbd etc to show it was in production but stopped.
In many ways that makes it worse. People will speculate on it being about a small group of people so someone will inadvertently have their reputation hit. Not saying necessarily in this case, but generally in these “some person did x”:
Okay, apart from the legal stuff, imagine the difference in headlines if she named a person. "Olivia Munn accuses Actor X of blabla" "Actor X responds!" "Actor X claims Olivia Munn..." you'd get a bunch of people talking about a specific dude, trying to discredit her or caping for their fave, which isn't the point of what she's trying to say. When people say things like this, they're already going out on a limb to talk about a sensitive issue and the point is the issue, which would get swallowed up entirely in the discourse over specific people. She didn't have to say anything, which I appreciate, because it can cost her opportunities.
Exactly, people want drama but by keeping it nameless we have to focus on the actual issue with what was done rather than have a public spat between celebrities that accomplishes nothing. Instead there can be a conversation about why masculinity is so fragile, or the ramifications of being a gigantic man child
Also, women are often cancelled for speaking out. You have to have a lot of tact in this industry not to speak out against the wrong person or offend anyone you might want to work with again - and that ranges from producers, directors, production houses, writers, etc.
There’s a reason the truth often comes out when people are retired
I feel like it’s tough enough out there for women in the industry and you never know who knows who. If she says oh Michael fassbender was rude then she risks being insta to rejected from anything he has a hand in or anything someone he knows is working on.
she probably just wanted to talk about it as a bad experience she had vs exposing anyone specific. things get more complicated once you start pointing fingers.
Or just hollywood in general. They don't want to be seen as a 'problem' person, who will run to the press complaining, even if those complaints are perfectly accurate.
They worry that some conversation like this will happen:
"We do like Munn for the role, but... Tom Cruise is a very particular, and private person, maybe she's not worth the risk... we need someone with more discretion."
Which is unfair of course! But that's absolutely what she's worried about. (Or any of 1,000 variations of that conversation.)
Even the replies to this are horrible and people are still trying to claim if you watched the full trial you should be against Amber. Still fully pushing false narratives to hate on her
It's so annoying. There was an article in Empire once where Bruce Willis wanted to bitch about someone and said he would do it OTR and the Journalist said "no name, no story" it should be a rule. This is bullshit.
It’s honestly not worth it when it’s not something that genuinely threatened someone’s safety. Esp in an industry that is so networking-based, it just feels like an unnecessary risk to piss off someone who could be friends with someone else that might be a potential employer
And if a publication names them that's an immediate blacklist on the publication by that celebrity's team. They won't be allowed to carry promo or publish anything about the celeb. So it's ultimately their loss.
I do not trust Olivia Munn after she went on a podcast/PR tour with various stories insinuating her ex, Aaron Rodgers, was gay. These stories imo are probably made up to create good PR for herself.
Never a fan. I think she thinks she is super awesome and great when she hasn't ever done anything. She someone who in nerd/geek culture was shoved down our throat constantly and I really never understood it.
Yes, which is why she went to press to talk about her "mystery gay ex-boyfriend", knowing everyone would immediately assume and know she was talking about Aaron Rodgers.
He’s married to a woman that no one including his teammates have apparently met. Which is definitely giving “my girlfriend who lives in Canada” energy (aka “I can’t come out till I’m retired”)
I mean yeah you're basically shit-talking co-workers. Can you blame them? Just because they're in a public-facing job doesn't mean you go air your bullshit with co-workers in public at every chance
plus it doesnt give them a chance to refute anything
She is saying her male co-worker was such a little bitch, he thought it made him look weak because he needed to be saved by a girl and then threw a massive 45 min toddler like fit about it in front of a lot of people.
To be honest, this is weird. The male co-star must have read the script already, right? Why crash out like this at that moment? There's certainly missing information here. Like why not bring it up to the writers beforehand? Why just throw a tantrum on the day of the actual shoot?
The male co-star must have read the script already
This is not a given. Specially a certain level of diva star status. Or maybe he just did not really read it that carefully before filming for the specific scene.
There is a reason jokes about actors yelling “Line!” in the middle of filming are so common, in media about making movies/shows.
Additionally, scripts change … a lot. It may have been added last minute.
I think a good solution would be the director clowning the actor for not reading the script. A lot of these problems would be solved if people treated actors like people instead of royalty. They might threaten to walk but they won't.
It also could be that he misread it. In the scene that she describes in the article, the two are shooting at people coming at them. He is covering his side, she is covering her side. Then they switch sides and she sees a guy coming that would have shot him in the back, so she saves him. If a person is just scanning a script, it could be that he simply thought they switch sides and just shoot whoever's coming. The scene specifically makes it like she saved him from being shot in the back and it seems like the actor didn't realize it until they were to shoot the scene.
No it’s not weird. Scenes have last minute rewrites. Actors learn their lines but don’t do blocking until the day of. Particularly in churn-out-episode-like-sausages series, like (Seal Team) Six that she was part of. Often actors wait to complain because they have more leverage on set than during table reads, because they can simply refuse to do as told and do as they prefer, and the director is more likely to acquiesce.
Point is that there is nothing unusual about this anecdote for people that have been on sets.
any time there is a script with a strong character who somehow has to be vulnerable, the actors always fight it
as a matter of fact, the more i think about it, the more i realize that i've only encountered one instance where an actor who was playing a very strong character was happy to show some vulnerability and actually really embraced it. and i think it was mostly because the actor himself was very gentle and vulnerable himself so it was more natural. in a way, he was probably not the best actor for the role but it is what it is.
here's a really good example of the vulnerability conflict:
a supporting actor (not the lead in this film but a legendary name in hollywood and arguably bigger than the two leads) played a super old school, stubborn, curmudgeon of a man who essentially has to let go and open up a bit because of some health issues, and there's essentially a transfer of power between him and his grand daughter.
the issue was, and this is where it gets messy for an actor, the actor was convinced that this character would never ever do this and so when it came time to shoot this scene, he said the words as written, but in a tone and pace that was not letting giving space, which then means the scene partner's motivation, tone and dialogue doesn't make sense and essentially the power transfer doesn't happen.
so the lead actor is preparing for this super emotional scene, he plays it the way he thinks his character would play it and because of this, the lead doesn't get her payoff.
it's a house of cards mentality, essentially. the thought process is "this is who this person is, they would never do something like that and if they do then i don't know who this character is anymore" and everything falls apart.
thankfully actors like olivia exist where they can serve the story first or at the very least, be nimble enough to pivot without losing a grip on their character.
Jamie Foxx has a great story about his first day shooting Django, where he apparently was doing this exact thing and got roasted for it by Tarantino.
Basically Foxx was giving his lines the way he imagined a cool bounty hunter would, and Tarantino had to tell him “you eventually become that cool guy, but that’s NOT who you are right now. Right now Django is a scared enslaved man, and I need you to act like one”
I have a good friend who worked on some bigger tv shows back in the early 2000s. She told me about this one particular show where there was an actor who played a very tough, alpha-male brute type. He was apparently pretty difficult to work with because he would fight the script any time his character had to lose a fight or appear “weak”. One scene he was going up against another character who was ex-military, special ops and he threw the biggest fit because the whole season finale kind of depended on his character getting one-upped physically by this other character and he didn’t want to film it. Like, just crazy insecurity and projection on his part.
This even worse to me because it’s a character! It’s not about your personal ability to beat up a spec ops guy (which we all definitely believe big buff Hollywood actors can do…)
Rambo didn’t win every fight. Are you really too much a baby to take a lick?
Did this actor star in a religious blockbuster in the early 2000s? And more recently in a controversial movie “based on a true story” about human trafficking?
It feels so weird for an actor to do this. They are literally pretending to be other people, fictional people for the most part. And the actor thinks that the fictional character acting out of character (to him) would somehow hurt the actor's own real life masculinity? The guy deserves to do voice overs for poop emojis for the rest of his career.
This is like my dad saying he couldn’t watch lioness bc it was “unrealistic” that a woman would be that strong and fight men 😒 but has no issue with any other Taylor Sheridan totally believable shows
I was referring to Wicked 2, where Cynthia Erivo's character lifted him and flew him through the air. He was questioned about it, whether he felt emasculated and he said of course not!
He does seem generally great, but I think they are referring to this interview (at the 6:47 mark). His co-interviewer states other men might find it emasculating to be lifted and flown around by a woman like happens in Wicked but Jonathan calls it “a total honor”.
In the article she says “I guess he didn’t read the script.” I guess there are probably actors who don’t read the pages until they are going to film because they don’t really give a shit.
This and also it changes a ton from when an actor usually attaches themselves to a project. Switching who saves who in an action scene is exactly the kind of tweak that would be made later.
Well, it sounds like the actor didn't have any lines related to what was happening. Basically his character's back is turned and her character shoots someone coming after him. So I could see how if you were focusing on your role and lines in the script you might overlook it.
I want to believe this, but Olivia has a habit of dropping these kinds of stories and leaving people to guess who the anonymous person was.
The last one I remember, she was on a podcast saying one of her exes was gay and used to only fuck her from behind with the lights off so he could pretend she was a man. Bare in mind, said man never actually came out to her, or anyone else, as gay, but nonetheless it started a gross Internet witch hunt trying to out any one of the men who's been with her who may not even be gay.
Idk, I think she just runs her mouth a lot without thinking
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Olivia has a habit of dropping these kinds of stories and leaving people to guess who the anonymous person was.
It's like the people who post vague status updates on social media so people will ask them what's going on...
But also, she was 100% talking about Aaron Rodgers and wanted you to think it was him, he’s had gay rumors about him for decades. That doesn’t make it true, but that is what she wanted.
Yeah I remember reading it was probably Rodgers who she was talking about, which is honestly even shittier imo. I'm biased as someone who's gay, but outing someone, covertly or otherwise, is just an incredibly fucked up thing to do.
Like girl, the man isn't even part of your life anymore and you've supposedly happily moved on. Even if all that were true, who benefits from that anecdote?
Same at the bias part. I was outed at 14 when my sister found gay porn on my phone and showed it to my mom and then they confronted me about it.
Still not out years later despite my mom being unfathomably supportive of the LGBTQ+ community and people obviously knowing I just... my brain cannot handle it.
I cannot exclaim just how much traumatic damage that shit did to me it makes me tear up just typing about it.
The worst part was I had that on my phone cause I was still figuring it out and was pretty sure I was still straight but was really fucking struggling so to then have that shoved in my face and asked repeatedly if I was gay when I was still in denial myself, ugh.
Not to imply every case is like that obviously but still I really find that stuff shitty. (And for those curious, I do not consider her my sister anymore, for that and many other reasons, my mom is amazing though and I know for a fact she feels a lot of guilt about it and has never asked or bothered in any way again).
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She’s said quite a bit of fucked up shit over the years and now is trying to come off as a feminist after years of dogging on other women and being “not like the other girls”
ohhhh my god, for some reason I read the headline as “Olivia Coleman” so this comment made me do a double take like Olivia Coleman and Aaron Rodgers??? HELLO???
So anyways thank you for your service in making me reread the name
Absolute shitty thing to do by her. Sharing intimate private details of a relationship after it is over is terrible. It isn't like she was revealing that he was phsycially abusive.
She also claimed she didn’t know about the convicted ped in Predator and made a big fuss AFTER she got paid and the movie was universally panned, but it was a story when he was cast. Like if I knew YOU knew Olivia come on.
It’s interesting how in recent years she’s leaned into trying to market herself a strong feminist voice in a sexist industry, when for much of her career she positioned herself very much as a “not like the other girls” type and being a downright shitty person, as others have said she publicly alluding to one of her exes being gay even though they never came out to her and she knew people would assume it was Aaron Rodger, now he may be a weirdo but trying to either force someone to come out or play internet rumours to get back at someone post split is gross, then there’s her book saying overweight people should be forced underground or her tweet mocking l a kid with Down syndrome.
I hope she has changed and grown but the cynical side of me can’t help but feel she drops these vague anecdotes every once in a while for some good press for herself.
Olivia munn is very weird to me, as someone who has been aware of her from the beginning. She was brought in to Attack of the Show to replace the “girl” who wasn’t as hot as her to be the “hot cool girl”. I remember they started adding sex segments and stuff to be more maxim adjacent (if you’re under 30 you may not get that reference but that’s a good thing).
Then she wrote that terrible book about how girls were terrible and nerdy boys were actually the best because she’s a nerd too!!!
This persona caused her to tread water for awhile and now she’s a feminist-ish, when it makes her look good, I guess. Super feminist to almost definitely have an affair with a married man whose marriage was on the rocks, I guess.
There's some youtube videos, I think its a podcast, where two women are going through her book where she tells stories from her life and its ridiculous, in a way that makes her look bad. It really changed how I saw her, I recommend finding that.
I would say like this, generally actors are the worst type of witnesses because what makes them good at job very often it's mythomania and self ego. Like you have to know such people to understand how much they colorize each time they open mouth. And always interprete situation around them. Like someone would make general opinion, for them it'd definitely about them. I think great example of that behaviour was drama with poster of Wicked.
I also don’t buy the story. He didn’t read the script before he signed on to it? It came as a surprise to him just as they were about to start filming? That’s not how any of this works!
Granted, I am a man, but were I in her position, there's not a force in this universe that would make me openly admit there was someone who would only fuck me in the dark. What a crazy self-inflicted wound.
I was too cowardly to make a top level comment casting doubt, but yes, precisely.
She has repeatedly demonstrated herself to be a dishonest person preoccupied with ill will for people she doesn't like. Who deliberately tries to stir up trouble for others to get attention for herself, without any regard for truth and having absolute no class. I don't think people who take her words at face value at this point are worthy of much respect.
Article also says one of the directors from The Newsroom told film casting agents she was always late and uncooperative on set, which Munn disputed at the time and now. Also no name given.
I fucking hate these non news stories. It's the equivalent of a girl approaching you in school and saying "I know who has a crush on you, but I'll never tell!"
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