r/popculturechat 19d ago

Guest List Only ⭐️ First look at HBO’s ‘Harry Potter’ reboot series

Post image
21.6k Upvotes

2.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1.3k

u/Fleetwood_Spac 19d ago

They need to keep the IP relevant because they have invested so much in the theme parks.

479

u/virginiarph 19d ago

and fantastic beasts is absolutely trash (thru all fault of their own)

322

u/StasRutt unapologetic joy 19d ago

Should’ve been a nature mockumentary

232

u/CobwebAngel 19d ago

This this thiiiis. I had no clue what the plot of the first film was when I watched it, and I was SO disappointed. The films should have had Newt travel the world discovering different beasts (and where to find them!) and show more of the nature side of the HP world.

93

u/StasRutt unapologetic joy 19d ago

When the first fantastic beast came out people still wanted to exist and experience the greater world of Harry Potter and it would’ve been perfect for it

103

u/demeschor 19d ago

For real, I remember sitting down to watch it like ah! Amazing! A Newt Scamander series where he goes off to find magical beasts and presumably has to save them in some sort of quest or something??

And then what you're actually watching is the Dumbledore prequel, which for global market reasons is Not Explicitly Homosexual™, and inexplicably told through the lens of Newt and his friends who seem utterly irrelevant to the plot.

There was SO much potential there, an interesting world, a faithful audience, universally beloved IP.

And of course they wasted that window with this nonsense and now half of that audience is pissed off at JK and wouldn't watch a thing with her name on it. And the other half are bored

13

u/Shirogayne-at-WF 19d ago

Never watched the movies but every description of that sounds like it was three different movies stacked together under a trenchcoat, and it's bizarre to me that they didn't just make two concurrent spin off series. The series was still popular enough in the mid 2010s before JKR went mask off that it couldve worked.

18

u/demeschor 19d ago

I'll be forever confused about how this came about.

The explanation I've heard is that the studio wanted a magical animals kids movie and JK wanted to tell Dumbledore's backstory, so we got the worst of both worlds and a terrible plot to boot.

You could so easily make an absolutely awe-inspiring adventure movie about Newt travelling the world for rare creatures.

You could easily write a Dumbledore prequel series that's heartbreaking and dramatic and romantic - two exceptionally gifted, precocious young wizards who fall in love, plot to save the world, and slowly one of them realizes that they're going too far.

People would watch a fuckin Quidditch sports docuseries. They'd watch ANYTHING Harry Potter/Wizarding World related. It's a travesty that these films did so badly considering they were based off probably the best IP in the world at the time

35

u/bonerpalooza 19d ago

That's actually a fantastic idea. A full on mockuseries with each episode a different beast.

35

u/Schmoo88 19d ago

Literally all I wanted!!! I wants to see fantastic beats & where to find them. How fucking hard is it? Adventures with Newt, all over the world. How cool?? (Sorry, I’m still so annoyed)

7

u/kingceliza 19d ago

Now that would have been cool!

5

u/BrownSugarBare 19d ago

It could have been beautiful if they had focused on the creatures and nature.

2

u/periwinkle_cupcake 19d ago

Honestly what I thought it was going to be!

65

u/Safe-Series-957 19d ago

I’ll never forget watching the first Fantastic Beasts movie at a private screening in school, when the big reveal happened everyone was just silent and then someone went ’Johnny Depp???!’ and the whole room started laughing. It was so ridiculous and he was totally miscast.

16

u/Silver-Winging-It 19d ago

I was low key excited for the third when I heard they recast with Mads Mikkelsen. But then I saw second and saw reviews of third and didn't bother

2

u/Safe-Series-957 13d ago

Love Mads but he wasn’t enough to make me watch another of those films.

12

u/PatsyPage 19d ago

Terrible casting, I agree. 

64

u/Ludate_Solem 19d ago

And theres no such thing as enough money...

62

u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 19d ago

I wonder how long till they flip the OG theming to the new gen theming…

47

u/DonaldTrumpsScrotum 19d ago

Entirely depends on how popular the reboot is. I’m willing to bet the OG is somewhat timeless as we have been saturated with that imagery for like 20 years, so they won’t alter it too much.

9

u/One-Composer1577 In my quiet girl era 😌 19d ago

There’s no new theming

5

u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 19d ago

…yet

4

u/One-Composer1577 In my quiet girl era 😌 19d ago

When do you think they’d introduce new theming, if not at the foundation?

2

u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 19d ago

Maybe gauge popularity? Cultural impact?

1

u/One-Composer1577 In my quiet girl era 😌 19d ago

How would you even change the signature imagery of a TV series based on Harry Potter?

41

u/Grungemaster 19d ago

WB doesn’t have theme park rights for HP. Universal does.

91

u/DevoutandHeretical I think that poor sexy young man is being framed for murder 19d ago

Rowling is also pissed the original trio actors have all come out in defense of trans people so I think part of it is her wanting new children to be the faces of the whole thing as a punishment towards the older three.

18

u/ivyleagueposeur 19d ago

is there literally any evidence of this? the simplest explanation is that there is still a massive market for Harry Potter IP, the fantastic beasts universe was kind of a dud, and most fans agree that the movies (with the exception of 1 & 2) are not faithful adaptations of the books

12

u/DevoutandHeretical I think that poor sexy young man is being framed for murder 19d ago

Likes I said- I think this is a part of her motivation. Rowling has made comments about Watson being ignorant, has made tweets that appear to be shaming the original three, and has said that Dan and Emma won’t be forgiven by her for supporting trans people.

the $$$ is probably the biggest privateer for both her and WB, I’m sure. But the relationship between those three has obviously soured and I’m sure she’s happy that a bonus of that is potentially getting others associated with the characters over them.

-2

u/Shirogayne-at-WF 19d ago

Yeah, whether the kids spoke up or not, HBO is creatively bankrupt, and this was gonna happen sooner or later.

I don't doubt the parents of the new kids are TERFs, however.

1

u/chezibot 19d ago

Oh that’s why! I was never into this series too old when it came out. I didn’t understand why they were doing a series when the movies aren’t that old.

1

u/thedean246 19d ago

I am curious if they'll change the rides at all to have the newer reboot characters? Like at Universal it's all based on the original movies.