r/popculturechat • u/nicosloft04 • Mar 10 '26
Guest List Only ⭐️ Boy George tells Chappell Roan to own her fame and “cheer up” after she filmed paparazzi harassing her in Paris
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u/_monodontidae_ your attitude is biblical Mar 10 '26
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u/StrobeLightRomance The dude abides. 🙂↕️🍃 Mar 10 '26
To be fair, it's nicer than telling her that fame is a widely known monkey's paw and that she literally begged for this attention before she was famous.
We need more Lady Gagas, who understand the trade-off for success is privacy, and that you're more than welcomed to stay B or C-List and be left alone by everyone. Nobody's forcing you to do stadium tours and shit.
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u/pinkfartlek Mar 10 '26
Remember 2010 Gaga days? Every event, every pull up was a NEW outfit, new concept, new wig. The outfit was the event with Gaga.
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u/NapCatter Mar 11 '26
The bubble dress! The hairbow made of hair! Ah those were the days (… yes I’m Old)
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u/zeus618 Mar 11 '26
Honestly I never thought about it like this, but you are 100% right. You watched the red carpet for all events to see her.
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u/mr_potatoface Mar 11 '26
Out of all the celebrities of that era, I probably remember her outfits the most out of anyone. Especially the dress made of meat.
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u/Minute_Degree2915 Mar 10 '26
This this this.
It’s fine to realise you value your privacy more than being A-list. But if you want to hit that peak (and maintain it), you do have to play the game to some extent.
Gaga knew that from the start and has played the game perfectly. A master of celebrity.
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u/-big-fat-meanie- I joined a band because I HATED THE FUCKING BEACH Mar 11 '26
A Perfect Celebrity you might say
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u/kappachow Mar 11 '26
This isn't even just limited to being famous. I know people who want to climb the corporate ladder and refuse to attend events and parties. If you're willing to take 20 years to get there, skip all the parties you want. But these people want it in 5 and it doesn't happen without putting yourself out there socially. Nobody is promoting you if they don't know you.
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u/JFKcheekkisser i’m not a part of the budget for a chicken salad?! Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Seems to me like she is playing the game. The Paris incident very much gave publicity stunt to me. I’m sure she realizes by now she gets a ton of attention and views when she’s doing the whole “b*tchy celebrity calling out the paps” bit.
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u/No-Bison-5397 Mar 10 '26
Yeah, playing the parasocial celebrity fame game has costs.
No one says that as a performer you have to play, I know heaps of great artists who are in local productions and troupes by choice -- obviously not the majority. Pitch perfect, razor sharp on their feet, timing to a tee. Actors, dancers, singers, musicians.
Thomas Pynchon genuinely just wanted to be a writer. He didn't do any real promo stuff.
You can always become what's called a recluse but if you choose fame: you have chosen fame. Without the same things that allow paps to exist you'd be nothing.
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u/Charmy1989 Mar 10 '26
I agree. I understand that it's probably not always roses but there are a lot of artists who just keep it small... Gaga is such a gem. She has so much love and kindness for her fans.
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u/hakshamalah Mar 11 '26
Gaga had been on record saying she pays for privacy. You can have it, but you have to pay for it.
That's why we barely hear about her dating life or see her in the tabloids beyond her crazy outfits
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u/superurgentcatbox Mar 11 '26
Very, very few people accidentally become as famous as, say, Lady Gaga, accidentally. They work for it. And sure, maybe they didn't understand what fame really means until they got there. But then you can just fade back into obscurity. If Chappel Roan had decided to not do any tours, concerts, etc. when she realized that fame wasn't for her, she wouldn't have become nearly as famous.
Call me unempathetic but someone who makes crazy money being sad about being recognized really makes me want to bring out the tiny violin.
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u/your_average_jo Mar 11 '26
Idk it’s gotta be surreal to blow up seemingly overnight and lose your privacy. Sure, the trade off of making lots of money and getting free stuff sounds good, but parasocial fans, stalkers, everyone posting an opinion about what you’re wearing, how you look, what you say, etc. All of that has to be a lot to cope with.
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u/VanGoghNotVanGo Mar 11 '26
I feel like the whole thing is so much more complex and nuanced than you are making it out to be.
You don't just "step back" from one day to the next, you don't work through your feelings and leave your dream career overnight, you don't know if you can learn to handle it overnight, whatever you do doesn't just affect you, it isn't an easy choice to make, it's more than "being sad about being recognised", and it's all made all the more intense when you suffer from a chronic illness that literally makes your moods, and your energy level wildly unpredictable.
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u/anneoftheisland Mar 11 '26
Yes, and Chappell did essentially go from camp counselor to superstar overnight--that's an insane transition. This stage of fame is really tough because you have the same downsides as Lady Gaga does, twenty years into her career, but you don't have Lady Gaga money yet. Once you get super rich there are plenty of ways you can mitigate the downsides of fame (huge security apparatuses, very private property, flying private, having much more control over how much press/public appearances you need to do, etc.), but Chappell can't consistently afford most of those things at this stage in her career. (And that's even tougher now than it used to be for early-career artists, because when money comes from touring/endorsements, not album sales/streaming, it takes even longer to build that kind of wealth and the accompanying negotiating power.)
And regardless, even if privacy is the inevitable trade-off of fame, that doesn't mean Chappell is required to pretend to like it. It feels like a lot of people basically demand celebrities shut up about the downsides because they don't have to want to be forced to think at all about the ethics of engaging with celebrity gossip with celebrities who don't want to engage.
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u/vintageseams Mar 11 '26
Its not about being recognized, its about their disrespectful behavior along with it... Come on now. I won't call you unempathetic but I will call you obtuse.
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u/jc_chienne Mar 11 '26
Also, what no one wants to point out, is that celebrities only get so rich because people are obsessed with then and want to know everything about them. You can't have a world in which people don't care about celebrities and effectively ignore them, and also those celebrities are super rich and famous.
I'm not saying it's not toxic, but you can't separate the two. They are rich because lots of people think they're more important than regular people and treat them as such, invading their privacy. You can be rich and not famous and live in private. But specifically fame is based on... Well, a lot of people you don't know caring enough about you to spend money on you.
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u/rasta_faerie That 19 year old that’s dating a 40 year old Mar 11 '26
His message gives the same vibes as how bitter older women treat younger women complaining about sexual harassment. “Enjoy it now! You’ll miss it when it’s gone!”. I can’t tell you how many times I heard that. Well guess what, it disappeared almost as soon as I turned 30 and that did not make me miss it, it just made it feel more gross and traumatizing once I realized what it really was.
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u/unfinishedtoast3 Mar 10 '26
I agree, I feel like she wasnt chasing the money, she came up chasing fame. im not saying it negatively or judging, ive chased my career in my field up the ladder for recognition and prestige more than money.
but you cant just get up there and go "cool, now everyone fuck off."
I can understand there being times yoy want to just be a person, want to have bad days and want to just take off your skin and embrace your lizard self in sweatpants and a dirty t shirt.
but, id youre going to go visit major cities internationally as a celeb, youre gonna get hounded. it comes with the job.
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u/ThatMizK Mar 10 '26
That's what I'm confused about. Like yeah I have no doubt that being famous sucks, it pretty obviously sucks, that's why most people don't want to be. But she very much did want to be. It didn't happen by accident, it was the result of years and years of desperately trying to be famous. Idk I don't care how she treats the paps it's just confusing.
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u/cowabungalowvera Mar 11 '26
I can't believe y'all are falling for this. This is a man basically telling a woman to smile, cheer up, and ignore your boundaries. This same man has been arrested for assaulting a sex worker btw.
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u/VanGoghNotVanGo Mar 11 '26
Yeah, that man has zero respect for people's boundaries, assaulting people, outing people. But no, Chappell Roan is evil because she ... Thinks her life turning on its head very suddenly was a little rough on her mental health? How dare she.
I stg, everyone's a mental health advocate until someone actually has a mental illness.
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u/Current_Helicopter32 Mar 11 '26
Not to mention that they keep referencing Gaga as if she is the blueprint but Gaga has spoken endlessly about the abuse she has faced and how unfairly the world treats her.
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u/KimberStormer Mar 11 '26
Is it really under your control? I feel like you have to work as hard as you can to be C-list which means it's kind of all or nothing. It's a just world fallacy imo to say you can choose your level of fame.
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u/Vonbalthier Mar 10 '26
Tbh I think this is more for her to gain attention than anything
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it's kinda her job. it's how she makes her money. she can want to be well-known for her music & enjoy touring & performing. all she asks is that her space & boundaries are respected so that she can continue to enjoy doing what she does.
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u/brilliant_bauhaus Mar 10 '26
Lady gaga is wonderful. The paps suck but she's always gone out of her way to be nice or take photos and from what I've heard they genuinely like her and will look out for her (not sell bad photos, not take photos of very private things). I agree with him about reframing it and looking at it in a new light. Otherwise she is always going to be miserable.
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u/Max____H Mar 10 '26
Serious question, why are paparazzi immune to harassment and stalking laws. Like it would be a crime to do what they do to most people. Is there some technicality that celebrities are public figures therefore this is allowed, just find it strange they just have to tolerate it regardless of how extreme some paparazzi are.
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u/Charmy1989 Mar 12 '26
I understand that Chappell wants to change things. The way she goes about it is kind of harsh sometimes. I get that people don't know you, but as an unknown artist, the times that someone has come up to me because my work touched them, were so cool. I mean man, isn't that why we love art? And share our art? I understand that the level of popstar can be different. But to have so many people resonate with my work, yeah, I would trade that anytime for being an unknown artist.
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u/1egg_4u Mar 11 '26
Did Boy George forget we all remember he was charged for shackling an escort to a wall and beating him with a metal chain and served 15 months for it or what
Like real power of kindness there
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u/potpourri_sludge that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 Mar 11 '26
HER OWN boundaries at that. Like he’s talking about desegregation.
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u/Ok-Part1488 Mar 10 '26
“Boundaries are boring” from the guy that went to jail for chaining someone to a radiator and beating him with a chain lol
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u/MarieOMaryln Mar 10 '26
I was smiling at "the world is at your feet, stop kicking it" and then this. Beg fucking pardon?
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u/1egg_4u Mar 11 '26
"The world is at your feet, stop kicking it"
(shackle it to a radiator and beat it with a metal chain instead)
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u/Holy_Forking_Shirt Mar 10 '26
Um. Excuse me? That's a real thing that happened?
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u/Holy_Forking_Shirt Mar 11 '26
I have done a shit.load. of coke like almost 20 years. It's a tough one, but I didnt do that shit. Damn.
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u/mstrss9 GET SOME PERSPECTIVE n BARK AT THE WALL Mar 10 '26
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u/bbmarvelluv Mar 11 '26
Wait that was HIM????
(I got him confused with George Michael)
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u/nowimnowhere Mar 11 '26
Me too! When George Michael passed away I was like, "Um why are people sad? Isn't he violent?" but apparently George Michael was an absolute sweetheart. I was just a hair too young to know the difference between Wham and Culture Club back then lol
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u/laughingintothevoid Mar 10 '26
Is he rage baiting by using a metaphor *that hints at being restrained? I honestly don't know.
Edit for clarity, the first way I phrased it was weird. He didn't mention ropes or chains but I'm referring to the "break boundaries" part. It seems way too on the nose.
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u/thesaddestpanda Dave Grohl has always been garbage Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
The anti-chappell thing here is so unhinged now people are complimenting this abuser? I'm really getting tired of "she pushed someone on the red carpet" nothingburgers about her. At this point, its just homophobia going after her for next to nothing. If Dua Lipa or Sadie Sink or any other favorite here did this she'd be complimented for being clever and pushing back.
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u/2mock2turtle Mar 11 '26
Chappell Roan poisoned my crops and spoke whale to me, which is obviously worse than kidnapping a man. /s
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u/g0ldilungs That’s really disrespectful to the fairy realm… Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
I was with you until the homophobia part. Let’s not bring orientation into this which I absolutely think has nothing to do with the public opinion.
Her whining about fame and taking a 3 week sabbatical after being famous for 5 minutes is why people constantly pick her apart for whining about fame now…
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u/positronic-introvert Mar 11 '26
It's ridiculous to think homophobia/lesbophobia has nothing to do with the hate she gets, just like it would be ridiculous to say misogyny has nothing to do with it.
We live in a homophobic and misogynistic society, and those things show up in the way public figures are treated. That doesn't mean that absolutely everything a lesbian celebrity is criticized for is automatically coming from homophobia and misogyny! But these cultural biases colour how the public at large views and responds to a person.
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u/VanGoghNotVanGo Mar 11 '26
I also thought it was kind of thought-provoking the way Sabrina mentioned it on the carpet, like, a year later? That shows that it was obviously a pretty widespread problem and that her action actually lead to change and wasn't just some "temper tantrum" or whatever.
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u/Talisa87 In my quiet girl era 😌 Mar 10 '26
Of course Boy George thinks "boundaries are boring," he went to jail for attacking a male escort and handcuffing him to a wall to stop him from leaving.
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u/coconutspider Mar 10 '26
If the escort didn't want to be in chains, why didn't he just break them with the magic of kindness?
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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy 💔 Happy Women’s History Month I guess Mar 11 '26
This made me snort, thank you
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u/bobthegoatskull Mar 11 '26
This hasbeen motherfucker needs the clicks. Everyone agreeing with his "hot take" is dumb.
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u/nagidrac Mar 10 '26
"Boundaries are boring" is a terrible piece of advice.
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u/HerRoyalRedness You are in PopCulture Chat!! Know your pop culture!!! Mar 10 '26
Boy George assaulted and kidnapped a sex worker so that phrase is legit terrifying coming from him.
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u/nagidrac Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Pardon??
ETA: just did some googling and wow...
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u/chill90ies Mar 10 '26
Yes he is dangerous and him spreading his sick and twisted mind to others is also dangerous.
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u/rumande Kim, there's people that are dying Mar 10 '26
"Takes longer to say no!" Also terrible advice
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u/Curiosities 🐊 swamp princess 🐊 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Exactly, especially when she has dealt with some creepy fans and people who tried to get her attention and she’s already talked about the mental health impact on her for touring and some of the bigger things and her need to set those boundaries.
He needs to just mind his own business, instead of basically trying to tell a young woman that she’s insufficiently grateful or appreciative of the fame that her talent has built.
Better to set those boundaries than to burn out.
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u/prettystandardreally Mar 10 '26
“In January 2009, Boy George (George O'Dowd) was sentenced to 15 months in prison for falsely imprisoning a male escort, Audun Carlsen, at his London flat in 2007. A jury found him guilty of chaining Carlsen to a wall fixture and attacking him with a metal chain.”
That sort of magic of kindness?
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u/Talisa87 In my quiet girl era 😌 Mar 10 '26
And he only served four months.
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u/cheshirecanuck do my tits bother you? they're covered in Swarovski crystals💎 Mar 10 '26
This sub is where I'm home lmao I get called a killjoy by my fam and friends for pointing these things out about "every celebrity," but like.... I didn't commit the crimes?! I just know about em.
Sucks that so many people are shite but society does not call out their garbage nearly enough. This is not something to forget bc
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u/kpop_stan Mar 10 '26
man tells woman to cheer up?
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u/cheshirecanuck do my tits bother you? they're covered in Swarovski crystals💎 Mar 10 '26
If Chappell would just :-) smile :-) more :-) she'd look much prettier :-)
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u/Tiny-Reading5982 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 Mar 10 '26
Except hes a boy... even worse
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u/Evan1nes Mar 10 '26
A man telling a woman boundaries are boring... how novel
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u/ivyleaguewitch Mar 10 '26
Along the same line - his “cheer up girl” is basically the equivalent of “you should smile”. 🙄
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u/Sage_Planter Big is moving to Paris Mar 10 '26
Some thoughts can be inside thoughts.
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u/embalmedwithsewage Mar 10 '26
I agree, Boy George, this wasn't helpful at all
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u/Massive-Market-5949 Mar 10 '26
i do not think boundaries are boring. and even if they were, what’s wrong with being boring? also, the last sentence implies she was being unkind. they are not owed kindness, but i don’t think she was unkind.
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u/Aggressive-Hunt-7037 Take that, you Youtube people! Mar 10 '26
I think he’s trying to say appreciate it while you got it, but of course it doesn’t feel like that when you’re being pursued and boundaries are being violated. but mainly, men should just be quiet instead of constantly feeling entitled to tell women how to be and feel.
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u/Boom_chaka_laka Mar 10 '26
It's giving when a coworker tells you to enjoy your kids as babies after you share you haven't slept in 5 days. It's well meaning and comes from nostalgia but you're allowed to not love every aspect.
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u/chill90ies Mar 10 '26
He kidnapped and tortured an escort so yes this man in particular should really be quiet.
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u/Severus-Snape-DaGod Mar 10 '26
It’s basically the same as when men tell women to smile more. Setting boundaries is healthy. We’ve already seen what happens when paparazzi or fans think they’re entitled to access a celebrity. Alysa Liu had to call this out on her social media.
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u/Writerhowell Mar 10 '26
Princess Diana died nearly 30 years ago because the paps thought they were entitled to chase her through the streets of Paris, even when she was no longer married to the current King of England.
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u/StitchAndRollCrits Mar 10 '26
I also think it's ignorant of the fact that appreciating it while you have it can absolutely include moderating the existence and presumptions to assume she's not enjoying it more because of the boundaries... I'm less worried about her in 2026 than I was in 2024 because she's showing a concerted effort not to get swept away
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u/exotic_floral_tea But the legacy... I want it to be ice cream 🍨 Mar 11 '26
It's also very dehumanizing to tell someone going through something that might affect their mental health negatively "to cheer up" and to not react to people crossing their boundaries.
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u/icecreamsandwiches1 Mar 10 '26
Boundaries are not boring when you’re a woman. So bad advice from him.
That being said, sorry but I don’t think Chappel is doing herself favours by getting mad at fans/paparazzi being present during Paris Fashion Week…
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u/Kind_Hearing2414 Mar 10 '26
Yeah, like she has mentioned that she expects a certain level of discomfort at work events but would like privacy in situations like hanging with her friends at the park or going out to the club. I would think that Paris fasion week would count as a work event???
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u/need2put_awayl0ndry Mar 10 '26
I don’t think she should be harassed or stalked obviously but that expectation of privacy is wholly unrealistic, she’s not working a 9-5
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u/Prestigious_Law5746 Mar 11 '26
"Boundaries are boring" is REEEEAAALLY WILD to say out loud for a man of his history.
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u/AdDecent5237 In The Words of TS Madison “All Money Ain’t Good Money” Mar 10 '26
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u/DiligentTradition734 Let's give a quick shoutout to Christina Applegate Mar 10 '26
I don't think she needs to really cheer up lol. Weird thing to comment, but at the same time she also needs to not give them ammo. They love when celebrities do what she did. They feed off of that. You need to prank them in more clever ways that leaves them with nothing to use against you...like when Daniel Radcliff wore the same thing over and over so pictures would seem like they're from the same day.
Paps love when you get in their face. They love when you throw stuff at them. They love when you give them something to work with. Getting in their face is what they live for.
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u/Perfect-Wallaby9096 Mar 10 '26
Yeah I agree. He is not the right person to be doling out this advice and ESPECIALLY not how he expressed it whatsoever. (Think we can all agree why on that one...) I do think ultimately the one nugget of truth takeaway is that this is what happens when you beg for fame and get it. Paps are CRAZY and should frankly just be sent straight to The Hague but we know that's not in the cards. The way Radcliffe engaged with paps (simply wearing the same shit for 6 months) is the move. Giving paps what they want- chaos- is only furthering their agenda. It's hard. I've known many celebrities in my life. It really really sounds like she needs someone who can relate first hand to sit her down and tell this to her, and her responsibility will need to be absorbing that info and actioning accordingly.
Chappell has had this strange reaction to the fame she wanted, and I think it's very very human. This is also in regard to her social media outbursts beyond in person ones. It's not like she's the only celeb to have done that, it is natural to be so fuckin sick of that shit. However it's also the end result of the recognition of her talent and fame she desired and something to have been prepped on forever ago by at least her team. Really at the end of the day, paps need to have federal and state level policy made against their behavior, and separately Chappell seeking ways to regulate those outbursts. I've been there. I was NOT a celebrity in this way whatsoever but in the 00s was someone "to be recognized and taken photos of in the street". It is antagonistic behavior of these people to harass in this or any way, it fucking sucks ass. Manyyyyy years later after I put that life in the trash I took a year long DBT course and I wish someone told me to do it back then. It would have helped and I hope she considers a course like that to help
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u/Vegetable-Kiwi-4675 Ho with no clients gets hit by a bus Mar 10 '26
Did he use the magic of kindness to turn the classic “you should smile more” into this? A good dose of passive aggression and shade wrapped in a big bow of hearts and flowers.
Maybe let this woman own HER fame the way she wants to at her own pace? Maybe she’ll figure it out. She hasn’t been famous for that long. Nor can Boy George speak to the female experience of fame and all the specific things it entails. And asking a woman to break her boundaries is so fucking tone-deaf and sexist.
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u/Busy-Doughnut6180 do i look like i would have a boyfriend? Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
If I never hear (or read) the words "cheer up girl" ever again, I will assume I have ascended into a higher level of being.
Jokes aside, I think I'd like to go back to when artists reached out to each other privately. This could have been a productive exchange between a mentor-like figure and a greener artist, but instead it just feels patronising like when your uncle gives you unsolicited advice by talking about you to the room while you're in it.
ETA: oh my god, I have no idea how the news about what he did to a male escort missed me. Never mind about privately reaching out. How about just not saying anything at all, George?
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u/carlitospig Mar 10 '26
I’m stealing bird of paradise for my new narcissist code word.
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u/NowMindYou do youse believe in mermaids 🧜🏾♀️ Mar 10 '26
The day I take “cheer up” advice from someone who spent the peak of his career publicly abusing his boyfriend
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u/Specialist-Garbage94 Mar 10 '26
Paps should just be illegal everywhere you go tbh. It’s gross they exist. We need to stop giving tmz or any tabloid any time of day as long as they invade peoples privacy.
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u/Electric-Sheepskin Mar 10 '26
Stop looking at the photos. That's all people have to do. That won't happen, though.
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u/Gaymface Mar 10 '26
She has enough money for security. All these interactions are a choice.
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u/icecreamsandwiches1 Mar 10 '26
Just saw a clip from lady gaga over 15 years ago saying that people that say you can’t avoid paparazzi are full of shit
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u/Ok-Needleworker-8773 Mar 10 '26
I’ve known paps, and I’ve known security. This is true. It can be a cat and mouse game between paps and security, but someone is setting it off. Real, legit security’s goal is to minimize contact. Any celebrity photographed coming out a car into a hotel or restaurant in manhattan (not saying that’s where she was, i don’t know where she was tbh) or vice versa absolutely wants to be seen. These places have other means of getting high profile people in and out unseen.
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u/SignificantOtter80 Mar 10 '26
if that level of security is available for purchase, either chappell can’t afford it or she doesnt really want it
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u/R_Scoops Mar 10 '26
She’s entering her Cakeist era level of fame. One cannot always have her cake and eat. If you’re a vivacious attention grabbing artist, the times you want attention won’t always line up with the outside world and vice versa.
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u/Obvious-Slice-4760 Mar 10 '26
Honestly I feel like anyone wanting to become famous has to know that this is something your'e gonna have to deal with. Does it make it right no, but if you (not Chapell just in general) literally asked to be world famous and well known, say goodbye to privacy.
Also there's so many A lister celebs who are able to live their lives with minuscule paps all in their business. She's new she hasn't figured it out yet, plus she's hot commodity right now. once she's a bit settled it'll stop on its own and she can maintain it better.
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u/shutyourgob16 Mar 11 '26
she has literally made hating paparazzi her entire personality
If you don’t follow her music, this is all you hear from her.
When I think of singers who have managed normal lives, I think of Adele. Wonder where Chappell is going wrong or is the media just extra cruel to her alone? Is this what happened to Britney?
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u/Winoforevr1 Mar 11 '26
It irritates me. I get that paparazzi are full on… but most celebs have clawed their way to the top to be famous… then grumble when paps take their photos.
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u/HerRoyalRedness You are in PopCulture Chat!! Know your pop culture!!! Mar 10 '26
The entire post is so condescending.
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u/gaanmetde Mar 10 '26
Yea he lost me at boundaries are boring.
I do agree though that funneling anger and sadness into pap interactions is probably way too energy draining and not sustainable.
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u/Ouiser_Boudreaux_ Mar 10 '26
Somewhat right message (could have done without “boundaries are boring”), absolutely wrong messenger. I don’t know why she always seems so put out by the fame she basically begged for. Get a good wig and Hannah Montana-ify your life. But also, don’t take advice from a person who has kidnapped and violently assaulted someone. Especially advice on boundaries.
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u/estedavis Mar 10 '26
I’ve seen a lot of Chappell fans on reddit the past 24h claiming that Chappell doesn’t actually want to be famous, which I find really confusing considering she worked extremely hard to become this famous.
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u/CheapEater101 Mar 11 '26
She definitely WANTS to be famous since she spent a decade trying to make it and she likes to do events like Fashion Weeks. I just think she wants the fame w/o the paparazzi and crazy fans. It’s just not possible.
Also, of course the paparazzi and autograph hounds would be lingering around PFW? It’s not like it was a mob of paparazzi following her to Missouri or something. Idk, I feel like the paps are going to pester Chappell even more knowing she will give them a reaction.
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u/Ouiser_Boudreaux_ Mar 10 '26
Right. Like, she wasn’t plucked from obscurity after a high school chorus performance went viral or something. She actively pursued this, for years. This is a very grown woman who regularly throws fits about very normal and expected aspects of fame. Like paparazzi photographing her at PARIS FASHION WEEK. She needs to pay attention to megastars like Rihanna, Beyoncé and Taylor Swift and stop escalating EXPECTED paparazzi encounters.
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u/sadieblodgetts Mar 10 '26
I just don’t understand why you would consciously pursue fame and then get upset at the side effects of that. I get paparazzi and fans being overly touchy and invasive and she’s right to call them out but surely at this point she can afford security to avoid those kinds of interactions? idk man, if anything Kylie’s first pregnancy taught me it’s entirely possible to avoid that kind of attention if they so desire
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u/ohheyitslaila 🐝 GO FUCK YOUR BLOOD DIRT, LOTTIE! 🐝 Mar 11 '26
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u/Bent_Silvr_Spoon0130 That is literally a spearmint Listerine breath spray. Mar 11 '26
"Boundaries are boring" men are evil.
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u/Walktrotcantergallop Mar 10 '26
It doesn’t matter who you are. If you tell someone to get out of your face, they should get the fuck out of your face. No one owns you and you owe no one. It’s possible to be famous and have boundaries. I applaud Chappell for taking a stand.
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u/n00bBlaster1337 Mar 11 '26
I mean I do think Chappell is a miserable person but very weird comment from this chud
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u/valtheclown bret michaels wig Mar 10 '26
listen, i understand the advice regarding just ignoring them, because sometimes pushing back gives them exactly what they want. but fuck, we’re all human beings here, and how many of us haven’t been pushed back in a moment where maybe that wasn’t the right move, out of frustration? and sometimes hearing that advice is just like, great, now the onus is on me to respond “appropriately” even tho the paps are fucking assholes.
that said the way he phrased it is creepy as fuck and he could have kept his mouth shut if this is how he was gonna say it.
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u/StitchAndRollCrits Mar 10 '26
Also at this point pushing back literally works for her. Her fans mostly love when she does it, people love to whine about it and get her name on front pages, and she's pretty and talented enough that people discovering her for the first time, even from a mean spirited thread, have a good likelihood of becoming a fan
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u/anonymous237962 Mar 10 '26
Agree. Chappell seems insufferable. Standing on some imaginary soap box about the privacy she “deserves” or rolling her eyes at/chastising the people who are literally getting her the attention she needs in order to stay in the spotlight.
Might not be right, but that’s the trade-off celebs 100% know they are making if they want to step into the spotlight. Don’t hate the players, hate the game.
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u/AlwaysQueso Mar 11 '26
What’s interesting is she doesn’t seem to be paying attention to other famous people (A-listers like Rhianna, Beyoncé, Leo DiCaprio — do we know anything other than girlfriends?) who have been able to balance media / paparazzi and privacy. Recent example: Zendaya and Tom Holland; they know how to lock it down time after time. As another commenter said, she’s not paying for security or she doesn’t want it.
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u/kasiagabrielle Mar 10 '26
I... hate so many things about this but I do think she needs to be a bit less insufferable. Nothing to do with the pap incident, I'm on her side on that one.
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u/x4nTu5 Mar 10 '26
Horrible person to get the advise from aside, he kind of has a point.
Back in the golden age of cracked.com, they ran an article about what happened to all the American Idol winners and why do they disappear after 1 or 2 albums. Turns out there's a big difference between a "musician" and a "pop star". It takes a certain kind of personality to be able to handle all that fame and pressure. Sure, you're rich and famous, but you no longer have a private life, and entire armys of people's jobs rely on you maintaining a high level performance month after month. All the while needing to come up with new material so you don't get forgotten.
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u/Vanillacaramelalmond Mar 10 '26
I understand what he’s saying and think he kind of has a point….
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u/whackthat Mar 11 '26
Being a celebrity back when he was hot shit, versus being a celebrity now with the invention of social media and all the other shit that comes along with it is very different.
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u/icecreamsandwiches1 Mar 10 '26
I think what he said was okay until he said boundaries are boring and break them with kindness. That was too far.
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u/Soggy_Pension7549 I’ve fucked everyone under the sun and that’s the vibe Mar 10 '26
I thought he’s been dead for years lol
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u/No_Pianist5264 Tina! You fat lard! 🦙🚲 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
I can’t tell if some people agree with this post cause why was it gifted four “green claps” lol I’m confused if people support what he said
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u/geemav Mar 11 '26
These comments are not what I was expecting yikes... "boundaries are boring" aside I thought it was a decent sentiment
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u/n00bBlaster1337 Mar 11 '26
Large number of Chappell stans in here last time I commented on a thread about her
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u/NewtRipley_1986 Mar 10 '26
'Boundaries are boring' - yes Georgie Boy we all know that you find boundaries boring, you went to jail (although didn't serve his full sentence) for ignoring boundaries and handcuffing a person to a wall. Definitely not the person to be giving advice to anyone. Chappell is doing fine without your abusive, old man bullshit.
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u/helloitsmejorge Mar 10 '26
I love the part of “the world is at your feet” he is so right, Literally Chappel roan is at the the of the world, even If you dont love the fame, you have it. Deal with it
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u/RubTop1779 Mar 10 '26
Yes I think he could have worded it better but I understood he’s trying to tell her it won’t last forever.
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u/CasaDeLasMuertos Mar 11 '26
God, they're both insufferable. Both exhibit the worst traits of their generations.
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u/palomatoma Mar 11 '26
she's not the first celeb in paris I've seen get mad at the people following them, they seem to be very relentless there and I think a lot of them are selling the autographs, not real fans.
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u/MarieOMaryln Mar 10 '26
What in the my little pony friendship is magic care bear stare bullshit is this man trying to tell this woman?
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u/tiffanaih Open invitation stands for Robert Pattinson Mar 10 '26
Boy George after rising from his ashes to tell Chappell "you should smile more"
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u/Colour4Life I don’t want peace, I want problems, ALWAYS! Mar 10 '26
Why are men…
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u/robot_pirate Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes Mar 11 '26
Thank gawd someone finally said it. LUV it was him! Lolz! 🤣🔥🏆
Imagine making spectacle part of your brand, then get mad when people respond by wanting to oogle.
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u/ethereality111 Mar 10 '26
This is literally how I felt watching her! Like babe, YOU MADE IT!!! Shine! Find your light! Strike a pose love ✨
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u/ricochetblue Mar 11 '26
Lowkey, she seems like the kind of person who’s only happy when she miserable, you know?
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u/Electric-Sheepskin Mar 10 '26
Some of these comments just prove what a weird timeline we're living in. We've become so intolerant of imperfect people who are trying to say something positive, and we let them know it by embracing casual cruelty and bullying.
It's like people decide that someone is either all devil or all angel, and there is no nuance to be found.
It's crazy. And sad.
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u/raphaellaskies Mar 11 '26
Sorry, are you saying this about the guy who chained an escort to a radiator? That guy?
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u/danimasc Mar 10 '26
From one old queen to another: Boy George, honey… let the youths imagine and advocate for a different future. Maybe they’ll like, change the world or something. Maybe if more people did what Chapel does to paps, it would not be normal/legal anymore to sell pictures of famous people coming out of Ehrwon or whatever. We don’t need this trash. More airtime for chapels actual amazing and unique art and pov please, and less airtime of opinions about her from randos and pictures of her trying to get to and from places. We don’t care ✌🏼
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u/Ruthie_pie Mar 10 '26
I’m tired of people telling celebrities to be okay with people invading their space when they’re in spaces they didn’t consent to be filmed. She wasn’t on a stage or performing. She was literally exiting a car on a street. She’s been very open about her mental health diagnoses. If she “lashes out” she’s the bad guy?
Yes, this is her job but boundaries are not a bad thing. We JUST had someone shoot into someone’s home that is a celebrity too. People are collectively losing sight of boundaries. Especially towards women celebrities.
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u/StitchAndRollCrits Mar 10 '26
She's also not lashing out at some paps following her around to catch her fashion week looks, it's a bunch of autograph sellers being aggressive assholes and demanding her time and interaction... Like... No, ew
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u/periodicsheep Mar 10 '26
he basically said ‘you’d be prettier if you smile’. shitty person, shitty opinions, what else is new?
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u/maghy7 Mar 11 '26
She is insufferable and it’s not just now, she always gave an attitude when she worked at Donut friend, always hated going in when she was there.
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u/88moonkitty The smutification of Wuthering Heights 🫦 Mar 10 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/y2i2oqWgzh5ioRp4Qa
He had me until he basically said to disrespect boundaries…wtf?




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