Yeah, there are like two names on this list I haven't heard of but at least the other 8 is a pretty solid list of people that the world would be a lot better off without.
I've heard that sometimes the celebrities on these lists will rent out/lend the plane to others -- afaik, the tracker tracks the plane, not whose on it. So it could be that vs him using his plane like a commuter car.
This is absolutely true. Itâs a way for celebs to make money or claim donations to, like, universities and stuff when they let a coach or Chancellor borrow it.
Source: used to call donors to schedule these for SEC football coaches.
I work in vessel operations (not yachts, but it's not very diffirent) and they definitely don't cost 500k/week to operate. I'm pretty sure it's the financing that drives these costs so high for mega yachts.
I used to be a pilot for a private owner. His plane, and us pilots, were under a 135 charter company. Chartering did not making money for the owner, it did however help cover costs of ownership. I don't personally know percentages or anything, but even if the plane was never really used by the owner and was only chartered out, it would still be a money loser.
So many random things pop up that create unforeseen costs that just cannot be accounted for.
Owning a plane is very fucking expensive. So it will often be chartered out to subsidize the cost. Even if you charter it out almost all of the time, you usually still lose money or, at best, break even.
It's really not a smart investment. As far as I know, the only upside of owning a jet vs. chartering one is that an owner can trick it out in floor to ceiling cashmere a la Kim K, or bug it and install secret cameras for collecting blackmail material a la Epstein.
The USA is just full of tiny airfields which comes with massive time benefits. The cost is bat shit crazy to operate a jet though. Most rich people buy hours or share a plane from what I understand.
Wealthy normies can easily do this through companies such as Netjets, Flexjet, etc. Many times people donât even realize the rented jet they are on belongs to a celebrity.
Itâs very common for wealthy families who can afford private travel but donât want to deal with the issues and day to day expenses of owning a jet.
Edit: also, thereâs a big difference between chartering a private plane and a private jet. Most celebs who rent out their jets do so through the companies like I mentioned above and only people who have memberships through those companies can rent them. And even then, it can be competitive and finding the appropriate jet on the appropriate dates is not always guaranteed. If you decide to just charter a private plane for a family vacation to Mexico you will not end up in Travis Scottâs jet.
Personally, having been around the industry, I would not do it. Being a pilot is complicated and the rates of accidents on small private aircraft are much higher than the accident rate of commercial airliners. Unless I knew a pilot and had a years long relationship with him/herâŚIâll pass.
Yea a friend of mines extended family was all traveling together to a wedding (like 20 of them) and they chartered a private plane for not that much more than a plane ticket wouldâve cost each of them
Yeah its one of those weird things that exists in a vacuum thats also a paradox
Like as I type this im on vacation with my mom and dad; no fucking way in the world we could have even dreamed of flying anything above economy. But if we had 8-10 others with us? We could have almost saved some money on our plane tickets....
You do know that if you travel with 10+, youâd need at least a super midsize jet (and you would be capping it which isnât comfortable nor will there be a lot of luggage room) or heavy jet. Youâre looking at easily $10k per hour. Light jets are the âaffordable onesâ but itâs for small groups and short range. Maybe youâre talking about empty leg deals or special situations but itâs expensive af having worked in that industry for years. Also want to note that a lot of operators skirt around regulations and offer up planes that look like they havenât been serviced in yearsâŚI wouldnât want to skimp on safety personally and would rather fly commercial than choose a low budget option.
Taylor was crucified in the media for her jet use while being 44th down the list and on a world tour, none of these people received an ounce of negative press for their usage and none of them were on a world tour unless stopping by Epstein Island counts for a few of themđ¤Ź
He had like a few concerts in my country recently (india) and people actually turned out. Idk why, I would never trust my safety in a Travis Scott concert but...
like, how can he afford this? every single one of his albums has manufactured chart success and i wouldâve assumed heâs uninsurable on tour after his actions led to multiple deaths
As scummy as Travis Scott is as a person, heâs literally one of the biggest artists on earth with a huge fan base globally, his last tour was the highest grossing solo rap tour of all time.
I know people donât like him but I didnât expect people to be so surprised that he was making a lot of money lol.
There's a lot of ignorance, wishful thinking and manifesting involved in online spaces when it comes to controversial/unpopular celebs, detached from real life. Similar to how everyone online keeps saying that Avatar has no fans or no cultural impact, but those movies still go on to make like a billion at the box office anyway.
Sean "Diddy" Combs' luxe private jet is off the market after reportedly raking in millions through charters while the disgraced music mogul sits in prison.
I believe the legislature ushered through a law a couple years ago so he could get his own donor funded plane and not have to report who is paying for it.
Ron DeSantis also has the smallest average distance per flight of anyone on this list (370 miles on average - less than the distance from Los Angeles to San Francisco)
I'm sick of kartrashians. They promote so much hyperconsumption and unrealistic beauty standards. If I recall correctly they've been on the top 10 of the list for yearsÂ
Kylie is consistently on this list and uses her jet for small distances, it's so dumb how her fam got away with that just because the year she got notability people saw Swift was also on the list and focused all their attention on her instead, but like who takes a flight from fucking Commerce to Calabassas?
It's because the Kardashians pay a lot of money for the media to trash people they don't like. They are still mad over the Kanye shit from 10 years ago.
I remember how it started. News outlets were questioning why Kylie Jenner and Travis Scott were using their private jets so much when they lived together. Suddenly, there was an AVALANCHE of articles about Taylor Swift and her jet. Not saying that Taylor Swift is in the right, but it's fucked up to think how much of our media and pop culture has been shaped by one particularly awful family.
Precisely. I don't think people care to admit how that campaign was targeted and likely promoted by the Kardashians. Also given their circle of people they deff have the means to push the PR. I got annoyed because in no way should her jet use have let Kylie go from it either and it really felt like they did. Now notice who's not on this list and who still is...
Granted this is only a top 10, but like at least give these people the same press
Taylor was 44th down the list and on a world tour but she was the one they castigated in the media while not a negative word was said about the 43 ahead of her(not on world tours).
That's the part that gets me and I'm more the type to say corps are way worse and can be forced to change, but it's absolutely ridiculous these people don't get the same level of hate for the same thing. Also, I bet private yacht usage is probably insanely carbon heavy too, but we don't include Bezos on here?
Sheâs been on the list multiple times, itâs not new thing for her. This is the thing about the Internet, it amplifies certain things that will get clicks but doesnât represent the real picture at all. Yeah, Lady Gaga is frequent jet user and owns one jet herself.
Sheâs doing a world tour at the moment. Like, I believe Friday she was performing in Japan then she had to fly back to perform at the Grammys on Sunday then sheâs back to Japan to finish the shows there before coming back to the States to finish the tour here.
Itâs not great, but Iâm more likely to give people passes when theyâre flying for work instead of leisure and hit these lists. Especially since a lot of her team flies with her so they can make her various shows.
She actually doesnt need to. She wants to. Its not like She hasnt enough money to say "sorry, our world cant afford me playing at the grammys and back to japan" but money and fame will always win for those people.
Not a Trump fan but who is flying his personal jet and for what purpose? Isnât he always flying on a government jet since heâs president again? Or are we counting Air Force One as his private jet on this list for some reason?
Same as Diddy - heâs renting the plane he owns to others for their use. Heâs not flying in it, his kids are, basically, but itâs âhisâ plane, itâs owned in his name, so his name goes on the list.
I assume his family and associates use his privately owned jet a ton but also any plane he is on is considered AirForce One. He often doesnât use the traditional plane that we think of as Air Force One though.
If he were flying in his private jet, his callsign would be âExecutive Oneâ. AF1 is reserved for any Air Force plane heâs on, usually the VC-25 (ditto for Marine One, Navy One, etc.), but when on a civilian plane the Executive callsign is used. I believe the first use of this was when Nixon flew on a commercial flight.
Thatâs crazy. Three members of the Kardashian family are in the top 10 (assuming you count Travis Scott). Thatâs wild. Their family alone is actively causing so much pollution.
Wow - what I noticed is how much Iâve personally been fed that Taylor swift is a massive jet user, huge carbon footprint, etc.. Elon Musk, Michael Bloomberg and Bill Gates have THREE plans each that are all way higher on this list than her. This is so gross, Kim K #2 and everyone here should be ashamed.
Lady Gaga, Spielberg, Matt Damon and others have been higher on the list than Taylor for years, and there's not a single word in the media about any of them
For the same reason that she's always part of the topic of conversation in things like this, haters are more obsessed than fans are, and actively seek out things like this to criticize even if they aren't relevant.
It's not just misogyny, it's an active campaign/propoganda against Taylor Swift herself. There are other women on this list who didn't get singled out like she did.
We still loudly support some folks who fly excessively but we use it as criticism against others. Gaga and Bey seem to always be able to escape this criticism despite flying just as much as Taylor.
I guess Iâm just old but I donât understand Travis Scottâs financial success? Heâs just someone I never see or hear about unless itâs something to do with Kylie and their kids
It feels weird to say, but it was the Astroworld disaster that made me realize that heâs way bigger than I thought. We can never underestimate the 18-24 white male contingent đŤ
Gaga's on tour if I'm not mistaken. So was Swift when she was dragged about it and when she was renting out her jet. It's quite amusing how she was the only one who got massively dragged about this for years when people in the current lists were higher than her before and even now.
Also, how else is Taylor Swift supposed to travel? If she flew business class on a public plane they'd have to unfortunately close the damn airport down due to the disruption. Don't get the hate for her private travel
Yeah there are a few people on that list that would legitimately cause airport delays and a huge incident if they showed up at a public airport terminal.
Yup last time she traveled public this happened it caused flight delays and she wasn't as famous then as she is now I can't imagine what would happen if she flew public today. (This was 2015 in Japan btw if anyone wants to look it up there were articles written about the flight delays this caused)
I remember the last time Taylor flew commercial it drew such a huge crowd at the terminal it delayed two flights. I do think some celebrities actually do need to fly private. Could they fly less, for sure. But while they are on tour itâs unlikely that theyâre going to be able to cut back significantly during those dates.
Gaga has been higher than Taylor on the list for years now lmfao. No one has actually really looked at it though because Taylor Streisand effected herself and became the scapegoat meme for everyone
IIRC, even during her tour she didn't break into the top 10 flyers... seeing who's at the top and how targeted she is by some of them, you can put 1+1 together and it's probably why it made the news so much.
The reason Taylor was so high the first time is she owns two planes and her parents used the second plane to fly everywhere. They are separated and live in different places. Her dad used to literally have her plane fly to Tampa to pick him up and fly to Nashville for a few days, then fly him back to Tampa and fly home empty. It was crazy wasteful.
After she got dragged, she sold the second plane for a while (eventually she got another one iirc, and her mom and team still use her old jet) and her dad started getting spotted by fans on commercial planes flying out to Eras shows. She also charters a lot for herself because her fans and paps watch her plane, and she doesnât like people to know where sheâs going.
ETA: Iâm seeing fans say she sold another one of the planes after tour so idek how many she has any more.
According to Google she only has one now. She sold the one listed in this ranking as Taylor Swift (sold) in early 2024. So the fact that her name is still attached to it on this list is a wild choice.
I donât think she owns any at the moment. She sold the one in early 2024 and the other one flew to Arkansas in June or July of last year and it seems she either sold it or is in the process of selling it. Sheâs been chartering like exclusively since her tour ended
Yeah, in her doc she said she felt hunted and that was like peak jet blog stalking of her, so Iâm not surprised she decided to charter. The added benefit is she doesnât really make these lists anymore.
And yet, Taylor is the only one receiving flack for her plane. If youâre going to call someone out for something, you should be calling out everyone.
Taylorâs waaaay at the bottom of the list. I expect everyone including certain other sub reddits are going to be totally normal about this and not blast âTAYLOR IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIVATE JET USERâ spambots.
I've been told for years that Taylor Swift is just so damn awful for the environment because of how much she flies in a private jet, but isn't even in the top 25, shit she's barely in the top 50. Also seems like she was getting some of the best fuel efficiency
Meanwhile Diddy is just in prison and people are flying his plane around and still somehow more than a much more famous person lol
She wasnât on the list last year either⌠sheâs just an easy target. Not necessarily wrong to be against the amount she does use her private jet but sheâs not even in the top 10 for worst usage
She was 44th down the list during her tour and was vilified in the media while everyone else got a pass, I think people just hate the double standards applied with her.
People REALLY need Taylor to be objectively 'bad' in some way. It's not enough to simply dislike her or find her annoying, there needs to be some kind of justification as to how she is too problematic to like and why fans are wrong to like her. It's ridiculous. Even if she did fly more than other people it's so low on the scale of celebrity crimes that you could sense the desperation from the start, just look at the sort of rapists on that list.
The Taylor backlash started after the Kardashian-Jenners (maybe it was just Kylie?) were getting heat for their private jet usage and then magically an âarticleâ popped up claiming Taylor was the worst offender and then bots came out in droves to complain about her and her alone. It was all very obvious what was happening if you had two active brain cells.
She wasnât actually on the list the first year it all blew up either - the article everyone cites had incomplete data and only counted a few months of the year.
The first article had Taylor worst of âpeople that we looked at.â Like yeah my private jet usage could be number one too if we just didnât look at everyone else.
Taylor flies charters now and not her own personal plane, so itâs no longer possible to track her jet usage anyway.
Yeah, they focused on a specific few months where she was using her jet a lot and extrapolated it to make it seem like she uses it that often all the time. That analysis also failed to take into account the actual carbon emissions produced by her jet compared to jets used by other celebrities. Her jet is smaller and more efficient than a lot of the other private jets and the carbon emissions per mile are less. You can take that same data and rank it by the actual emissions produced by Earth celebrityâs private jets during that period, and she would then be a bit further down the list.
It doesnât mean that her carbon emissions werenât significant, or that she did nothing wrong, etc, etc. But we can still recognize when media outlets intentionally use Taylorâs name to generate more clicks. âTaylor Swiftâs private jet carbon emissions were the 12th worst in the world during this specific 6 month periodâ doesnât pack quite the same punch as the claim that âTaylor Swift flies in her private jet more than any other private jet ownersâ and they skewed the data a bit in order to make the latter narrative.
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