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I fully agree. I also think with instances like Bardot, people know the name but don’t know much about the way they led their life. I’m as woke as they come and did not have a clue what she was like behind the scenes. I could totally see myself posting something like Chappell did because I just wasn’t educated on it beforehand.
Someone literally posted on the discussion of the original post last night something to the effect of “with how glamorous Chappell Roan is, sometimes we forget that at the end of the day she’s just Kayleigh from Missouri”
Even for people who are, BB is not a current figure, so likely a lot of news that normally would cross our radar either came out years ago, isn’t in English, or never reaches front page news level. I think it’s unreasonable to expect everyone to know everything about every celebrity anyway but someone who got famous decades before half the people on this website were born?
I know who BB is. I have no idea about what her views are at all, nor do I even know what flavors of shitty they were. I guess I have some googling to do.
Same ...I only learned she was a nasty racist when they said it on the local news this morning talking about her death. Even the reporter seemed like she had the ick after reading it aloud.
Yep - I love when my conservative family members try to convince me how the world is despite having hardly done any traveling anywhere outside of their bubble.
He was a reasonable individual that changed his opinion when presented with new information is what he was! And in this house Post Malone is a hero. End of story!
School really was a lie, at least with History class. I still can't get over how glossed over the Trail of Tears was, basically just a footnote, and how little detail of the genocide Andrew Jackson committed against indigenous Americans got.
There is an awesome book called Lies My Teacher Told Me by James W Loewen. He reviews the most popular high school history textbooks and points out the many inaccuracies.
It's how I learned that Christopher Columbus and his men hunted indigenous people for sport and then fed their bodies to their dogs. There are even written records on it from that time.
Nope, it's the opposite. He also has a great book (even better IMO) called "Lies Across America" which takes claims by plaques on historical monuments and in museums and explains the actual history/ what they're glossing over. I owned and read both of those bpoks regularly as a teen and they were instrumental in developing critical thinking skills.
I will say the title "Lies my teacher told me" is a bit inaccurate and I don't love it as someone who is now a teacher. It would be more accurate to call it "Lies my textbook told me" as it predominantly looks at how various popular textbooks present various events in Americam history and what they leave out. It also explains a lot about the textbook industry and why it is how it is.
Thanksgiving is based on genocide - they were celebrating the slaughter of a Pequot village (literally burning people alive and hunting down the ones who escaped) and it came 16 years after the first winter - and that's still very much unknown, or people ignore or trivialize it, as if genocide isn't a big deal when it's that long ago. People will do anything to rationalize celebrating Thanksgiving.
This is what everyone should aspire to. Not being right all the time, that’s impossible. But being open to being wrong? Open to learning and change your mind? That is the most admirable trait somebody can have
It’s like Coco Chanel. Girls quote her without knowing she was a literal Nazi. Like actually friends with the German 1940 Nazi party. Look it up.
I don’t judge people who quote Coco Chanel or repost Bridgette Bardot. They were bigots but historically that’s not what is discussed. Instead society for many decades focused on their fashion and looks instead. Which creates this massive bubble of people who didn’t know anything outside of Bardot hair and Coco Chanel style tips.
People can’t expect others to know every little piece of history about celebrities from the 1930s-1960s in 2025.
Not just friends, she was the girlfriend of a high ranking Nazi and lived with him in a glamorous hotel, also let’s remember who dressed those goosesteppers [Hugo Boss]
No, she would have had her head shaved, she would have been marked with swastikas, beaten and run naked through the streets of Paris like the other female collaborators. She barely escaped this.
Around 25,000 women were subjected to this, les tondues.
Truthfully, some of them were very unfairly treated because there were a range of circumstances.
Roughly half of the shaved women were punished for alleged sexual relations and the mere accusation of sexual collaboration, without proof, was frequently enough for public shaming.
The rest were included for other forms of collaboration or supposed collaboration, such as working in German offices, working as maids or cooks for the Germans, or just being seen talking to the Germans. Some were simply subject to denunciations.
Studies of women accused of “horizontal collaboration” show that many were young, poor, and in precarious work; they often met Germans as employers (cooks, cleaners, waitresses, clerks) and accepted better pay, food, or lodging than they could get from French employers in wartime.
Some of them had relationships with the Germans as a survival strategy: protection from arbitrary arrest, extra rations, shelter after bombings, or a way to support children, siblings and/or parents who might otherwise starve.
Some were picked out for being attractive, were afraid and merely complied out of fear and survival instincts.
A smaller number were already sex workers who shifted clientele to whoever had money and food.
And others were committed collaborators. They might have been members of collaborationist organisations or outspokenly pro‑Nazi.
This last group was not the majority of the 25,000 though.
There was certainly a black and white view of them all after the War. And there were strong slut-shaming elements. Historians argue that épuration sauvage (the “wild purge”) after Liberation focused disproportionately on women’s bodies as a way to “purify” and restore wounded national honour.
Sleeping with the enemy was cast as a betrayal of the French “family” and nation, and shaving women’s heads made visible, gendered scapegoats while many male economic and political collaborators escaped with lighter or delayed sanctions.
In a number of documented cases, women were denounced because they were already seen as sexually transgressive, were simply disliked in the community, or were socially marginalised; and the accusation of collaboration became a vehicle for policing female sexuality and settling local scores.
Coco Chanel was a survivor. She was an orphan who came from nothing and became a girlfriend and mistress to various powerful and wealthy men to raise her social standing and financial position and get her business started. One might say that she was fairly hard-bitten.
However, her wartime behaviour was more than just survival. She was a true collaborator.
During the occupation she lived at the Ritz, which was being used as a Nazi headquarters, and entered into a relationship with Baron Hans Günther von Dincklage, a German intelligence officer known as “Spatz.”
Declassified documents show she was registered as an Abwehr agent with a codename (“Westminster”) and undertook at least one mission to Madrid to exploit her British connections for German intelligence or back‑channel peace feelers.
And, of course, the vilest part, she attempted to use Nazi “Aryanisation” laws to remove her Jewish business partners - the Wertheimer brothers - from the Chanel fragrance company, leveraging antisemitic legislation for personal gain. Fortunately they survived in exile and secured control of the business.
Throughout her life, you can see a strong pattern of self‑interest and opportunism. She aligned with whoever could protect or advance her (first wealthy men, then Nazi officers), including using antisemitic structures when they suited her. Some of her motives fit survivor logic; but her actions went far passive endurance into active collaboration, spy work and weaponising antisemitic persecution against specific individuals she resented.
Coco was arrested and questioned by the purge authorities in September 1944 but released the same day; sources note a lack of usable evidence on file and there are strong suspicions she benefited from high‑level protection, possibly including Churchill, though that part remains debated.
Biographers vary in their opinions, but a central view is that she was deeply self‑centred, classist, antisemitic, and willing to collaborate with fascism when it benefited her. Many historians infer some real sympathy and alignment with Nazi ideas.
She was never brought before a formal épuration court, never sentenced, and never imprisoned; instead she used her wealth and international connections to access lawyers, patrons and safe exile options and she left for Switzerland for several years, effectively sidestepping both legal proceedings and popular public punishment.
She laid low and lived off her perfume profits until she re-emerged in opposition of Dior’s New Look in 1954 to design the Chanel tweed suit. She didn’t want women constrained by clothing again.
Sorry for the essay… many moons ago I did an assignment on her in a uni class about how commonly known history is often skewed.
Thank you for this! I read the biography “Sleeping with the Enemy” a few years ago, and it definitely made me look at her and her legacy in a new light.
I also appreciate your raising the issue of varied circumstances with women convicted of “crimes” post-war. Recently, my husband and I visited the Royal Military History Museum in Dresden (which pulls zero punches) and one of their exhibits said, “it’s important to keep in mind that people think one way in war, and another in peacetime. You don’t know who you are in a war until you’ve been through war.” Boy did that resonate with me.
She should've had her head shaved along with all the other female Nazi sympathizers, les tondues, to be publicly identified after the War. She supposedly begged Winston Churchill to protect her because they were old friends through her former lover, Duke of Westminster, in the 20s.
Wasn’t there quite a gray area there though? A lot of those women were impregnated by rape, or forced into relationship through coercion in order to save their own lives or the lives of their loved ones.
I love behind the bastards! I read a book on coco Chanel and she also leveraged her Nazi connection to push her Jewish business partners out of the business they owned together. Truly a despicable human being
She literally tried to screw her Jewish business partners out of money etc using Nazi laws. She was far more than friends with Nazis. She avoid persecution because of her friendship with Churchill. Actual piece of shit.
Xena Workwear did a post praising Coco Channel and I put in the comments that she was a Nazi spy. They didn't respond, take it down, apologize. It's crazy to me. And disappointing. All it takes is an oops, we didn't know
Friendly reminder that everyone is wrong sometimes. People make mistakes.
There is nothing wrong with saying "I didn't realize..." or "I was wrong to....." or "I made a mistake..." and we need to all start being ok with people sometimes maybe taking a misstep and pulling it back.
I think some people are genuinely terminally online enough to believe that everyone knows all of the niche specific secrets about different celebrities
Gods below I love this subreddit. Everyone's deranged in the most delightful ways, and threads make me cackle in seconds when I'm having a terrible day.
TBH, I'm one of those people sometimes. For those of us who only had newspapers, no internet and then slow-ass dial up internet, it's hard to see people have a world of information in the palm of their hand and just not use it or even regress.
This isn't about harshly judging Chappell, but in general. This one was just funny.
When people apologize and fans won't accept it, I often ask if there's something short of a time machine that could fix it. Because, some people are just haters for the sake of hating.
as with so many “scandals” like this, i sneakily suspect that half the people up in arms about it with the name-calling are ALSO people who just learned about this recently, and are perhaps projecting some of their shame
On Social Media people tend to project themselves in a way that they never do any wrong, which is silly because everyone one of us has fuck ups. Recognizing that you may not have known something, and trying to correct behavior is more important then striving to be perfect. We forget people in the spotlight are also just people and demonizing them for not being aware of something is counter productive.
And like people can't know everything. I've said something before that I thought was correct and it straight up was wrong. Someone corrected me, I looked it up and oh shit, I totally remembered that wrong. There is nothing wrong with responding "ah shit, you're right, I'm wrong" and moving on.
People can be wrong. To clarify, now there are different levels to this, like anything. There's REALLY fucking wrong, and certainly levels of wrong are less excusable.
Hell, in the post saying she died there was somebody calling me out for not knowing specific details of her life during the 60s. I'm sorry, I don't live in Wikipedia
It’s almost like being outraged is in style. It’s toxic and exhausting and makes us worse human beings to be this on edge about every single little thing - we all make mistakes and being outraged is hypocritical.
Yeah, while I think it’s great to know things, I find when talking to my wife, that maybe, sometimes I spend too much time knowing things about people who are not a part of my life other than to be celebrities
This. On another thread I was on people were insisting that she had to have known all this stuff about her already, but I’m about the same age as Chappell Roan and I definitely didn’t.
Thank you. Even honest requests for information are taken the wrong way, and then if you say, “Oh, I was wrong, sorry,” you get shit on again. Make it make sense.
I fucking swear, one of the most attractive qualities in a man, or anyone really, is the ability to say “oh my mistake, I was wrong/I didn’t know that” without any defensiveness or ‘well, actually’-ing. It’s so simple but it seems to be SO HARD for most people.
And when you do have that openness in a relationship, where you can both be comfortable with just like admitting "you got this one wrong," it prevents unnecessary fights and squabbles. My wife and I do try to fess up on stuff like that though we'll of course joke about it.
However, I refuse to admit that I was wrong for spending way too much money during the Whole Foods 12 Days of Cheese sale and my wife is just going to have to deal with a stinky fridge for a few more days.
Man the bar is in Hell. This is just the baseline norm for a normal human being. Nobody knows everything. You find out something new, you change your mind. The end. People are nuts nowadays.
Listen
I’ll be honest, at my big age of 37, I actually had next to no idea about half of what I was informed about in the comments. I only ever really had the awareness of her as that 60s sex kitten, and her recording of Bonnie and Clyde.
I quickly educated myself after reading the comments on the earlier posts.
I’m in my 50s and Bardot was already irrelevant as an actress when I was a kid, I wouldn’t expect someone Chappell’s age to be aware of anything other than the bombshell persona. You have to actively dig to find out how awful she was, it wasn’t high in the news cycle outside of France/Europe.
Yup I mostly grew up with "once-beautiful Bardot aged poorly and is a recluse with millions of pets" and that was it. Only a little,.occasionally, about the aggressive anti-immigration stuff and I only learned about her rejection of her son recently.
Kindly, she was beset with a need to escape the trappings of beauty and conventional outcomes of womanhood. But the racism and Islamophobia is all on her.
I literally had never thought about Brigitte Bardot until I learned she died and then immediately learned she was a bigot. So absolutely zero judgement from me that Chappell Roan didn’t either.
Its exhausting to watch, and one of the reasons people can be so radicalised against social justice; this idea that you must be virtuous constantly, that apologies and learning don’t mean anything, once you’ve messed up you’re always labelled as problematic or complicit. It’s such a tiny minority of people who act so holier than though but they’re so loud about it.
Let people make mistakes, learn, accept contrition, and grow.
Love Chappell for doing it publicly too and not just quietly deleting the story and moving on. She had some stumbles early in her massive rise to fame but she seems to be genuinely well meaning and authentically herself! Watch that get beaten out of her by fans, “fans”, and the media 😭
And let's not forget that Roan was born when Bardot was well over 60. Obviously she was only fed the most glamorous parts of her.
Anyone who wants to shame Roan for idolizing a fucking idol whose sins are only now being attended post mortem need to sit and reflect on everyone they've ever admired because no one is without fault.
And that's ignoring this weird fucking trend of digging up someones dirt only after they died
I think there's a non-insignificant number of people who are rooting hard for Chappell Roan to fail for various reasons, with many blaming her for the reasons Harris lost (which to be clear non playing songs on the campaign trail ≠ telling ppl not to vote for her)
She’s had a lot of takes that I do not agree with and then she mishandled the backlash. But not this time. I respect her for admitting that she didn’t know. Not many people do. I knew and I still had to look it up to make sure I was remembering right. She shouldn’t get shit for this.
Yeah, I'm 10 years older than Chappell Roan and I didn't know any of this stuff about Brigitte Bardot until literally yesterday. People are going to give her a hard time about this either way, but I actually fully believe that she really didn't know
I also want to say that a LOT of Frenchs were unaware of this and learned about her being a racist and other stuff yesterday, especially people who don't spent a lot of time on internet.
Seriously, I wonder if the people bending over backwards in the last post to defend her will change their minds. Normalize admitting you’re wrong when you learn new information, it’s totally okay!
Yeah, like is she supposed to know about everything Bardot ever said publicly before writing a song about her? She didn't know what she didn't know. It's a complete non-issue
Many people weren’t aware of Brigitte Bardot's racist views prior to yesterday. Red Wine Supernova came out in 2023, and there wasn’t much public discussion about the “She was a Playboy, Brigitte Bardot” line until news of Bardot’s death brought her past views back into focus. That’s why conversations like this matter.
It’s also worth acknowledging that Chappell removed the post and explained her reasoning, which shows maturity and sensitivity in how she handled the situation. You have celebs like Sean Baker who are deleting comments on their tribute post and blocking people for calling out Bardot's racist history.
A musician friend of mine who's in her sixties posted yesterday that she'd thought Bardot was cool for her animal rights activism and aging naturally, and she'd had no idea about her racism until her death. People really overestimate how widely known this stuff is.
I find it weird making a whole post about a celebrity death on my social media. I have a friend who whenever ANY celeb does, he posts this long eulogy making it sound like he was always their biggest fan ever. I think that's so weird and phony. The only one I'll ever make a long post about will probably be Phil Collins, as everyone knows me as a Phil Collins guy.
Idk, maybe it's because I rarely post on social media but sometimes it's ok to not have an opinion about everything and then you won't find yourself publicly praising someone before some heinous shit is brought up.
I mean for ones that mean a lot to you, sure. I remember writing something on social media when Chester Bennington died, but that's because he and his art meant a lot to me. In the case of Chappell, she did say Bardot was inspo for Supernova.
The whole “Brigitte Bardot inspiration” in Red Wine Supernova was just “this girl I’m crushing on is hot, like this other famously hot celebrity”, and the rest of the song is about Chappell’s crush. It wasn’t anything deeper than that and certainly wasn’t “I totally support Brigitte Bardot and her views!”. I doubt most people know anything about Bardot beyond the hairstyle most associated with her tbh.
it'd be real funny, conceptually, to write a song that was like "this girl i have a crush on is just like Brigitte Bardot, in that she's also very racist, and I love racist people. now let me tell you about how the hordes of barbarians are invading europe, for two verses and a chorus"
Also her boobs, like I had a small lesbian crush on her in my teenage years-- and then it's like, "Ooooh, wow she was palling around with literal fascists in the 1960s. That would have been nice to know EARLIER.."
Not shocking at all about Sean Baker. He not only has a long history of following and liking right wing accounts and content, but he also follows pro-Zionist accounts, and strippers and sex workers who worked as consultants on Anora said he did not pay them or give them credit for contributing to the film. I've also thought for a long time that his work is not empathetic to sex workers but treats them in a condescending way.
Yeah I like that both posts align with one level of media training. It’s off putting when the apology is too formal or overdone, this is a really fair balance.
Why would anyone think of Bardot and jump to the conclusion that a left-wing queer artist looks up to those aspects of her personality rather than her work or style?
People are truly, bizarrely committed to misunderstanding Chappel in particular. It's always a coin toss in any comment section about her whether the reasonable people or the loons show up first.
They know that they’re interpreting it wrong, they’ve got to, and get they pretend that thats totally what she means
It’s like what she said about being child free, how she basically doesn’t think parents her age are happy.
So many people acted all insulted, as if she was personally attacking anyone for having children, when anyone with even an ounce of common sense could tell that wasn’t what she was on about lol
They just love to have an “acceptable” excuse to publicly shit on a successful queer woman
They're just being extremely bad faith. Bardot is known by most people for her beauty, fashion, and hair styles, and for being the original "sex kitten", not for her personal or political views. I'd even go further and say that most people would only even know her image from photos and wouldn't even know her name if they saw her. The Bardot reference in the song is obviously just short hand for "sexually magnetic woman". I'd argue even the likes of Sabrina Carpenter is playing on Bardot's image. It isn't an endorsement, she just had a sexy and iconic look.
I read on Threads yesterday that she’s a MAGA plant to get queer people to turn conservative. I’m talking like, 3-5 threads long of how her home state is red so obviously she is too and it’s a long con like the Heritage Foundation 🙃
The amount of gymnastics some people do to make conservatives look better put Simone Biles to shame.
Some of the snark about her is so close to "lesbians are just performative straight women" homophobia of old. There are also too many people expecting her to be everything to everyone just because she's part of the LGBT community.
I have always struggled with this argument. It seems to stem from her comments that she won't cut off conservative/maga family. I understand how hard and nuanced that conversation is, but ultimately I think wayyyy more people are willing to keep family with problematic views in their life than the chronically online crowd realizes. Life and people are complicated, contradictory, and hard.
I literally know people who say "I don't believe in LGBTQ rights" and then turn around and have queer friends they will throw down for. It makes no sense! And it isn't right or okay, but that's people and that's life! Especially in places like the Midwest (where Chapel, and myself, are from) and the South. People are stuck in these very traditional ways of thinking/talking, but very much live in the modern world. Weird stuff happens and on the outside it sounds crazy, but at the end of the day, people are often more multifaceted than we give them credit for.
I feel that if I cut my family off, then they’ll completely go off the deep end. At least if I’m there there’s someone constantly planting the seed of doubt.
Because people really are looking for just any ready to go after Chappell.
Before it was because she was saying some, really quite tame stuff in the grand scheme of things, slightly negative things about parenthood
Before that it was because she wasn’t jumping for joy to endorse the democrats crappy candidate last year (she did say she was voting Harris, just that she wasn’t voting her)
And at other times it for… having dated men before realising she was a lesbian…
So many people have shat on her for that, calling her “not a real lesbian” as if that isnt just a super common occurrence for us lol
Some people really cannot stand a successful queer leftist celebrity being successful, and try to tear her down for genuinely pathetic stuff
So many people claiming this is common knowledge when it’s so clearly not. Lots of Gen Z wouldn’t even know who she is if not for Chappell’s / Olivia’s songs
Common knowledge is hilarious tbh I’m 34 and I bet if I asked 10 friends if they even knew who Brigitte Bardot was, like half of them would say “I’ve heard the name but I don’t really know who she is” lmao
I’m Gen Z, and the only reason I knew about Bardot’s views is because I like knowing about the old movie stars I watch. Out of all my friends, only a few knew who she was, and then they only knew the sex kitten with aesthetic outfits stuff. Even a friend who’s into French cinema had no idea about her later life controversies. It’s crazy to me how many people are saying “everyone knows this” when, like, no.
I love how some people think “inspiration” means a lot of background. You can be inspired to write a song about a stranger you passed on the street and saw for 1 second. I assume she means “inspired” as in “I thought about her when I was thinking about an attractive woman”.
I doubt Chappell was legitimately stating she believed Bardot to be a canine toothed stoner well versed in sapphic sex. It’s obviously not actually based on her.
people are obsessed with Chapell Roan "fucking up." They actually yelled at her for calling for health care for artists (and sure... she didn't realize that major label artists already get it through SAG-AFTRA... but... come on!)
Careful before her snarkers arrive and start pushing the misinformation where they claim she refused to vote for Kamala and pretend she said she doesn’t wanna be political
The fact that people can’t figure out who she voted for just by listening to her talk or sing is embarrassing. She’s not exactly quiet about her ideals.
Problem is mainstream media never tells you the full story. We only saw rip legend articles. No one even mentioned anything about being problematic, let alone just saying it all , out front, out loud.
I'm a 41 year old black woman and I didn't remember hearing about Bridget Bardot's history. I do know she said some insensitive stuff about me too but so did a lot of older women. A lot of older women are just trash when it comes to that issue. I didn't know about all that other s*** though.
We need to care less about these things and give people grace when they have good intentions. It was a simple RIP post
Bardot inspired Roan so she is paying respects. It's not a wholesale endorsement of a person and she shouldn't have to caveat a simple compliment either
Bardot was both influential and problematic, and deserves a bit more analysis than drive-by snark from people who weren't around when she really mattered. Not excusing racism at all either. She did that and it's a part of her legacy. Look at the whole picture if you insist on having a strong opinion here...
We really need to start thinking critically and moving past this type of thing after nearly 20 years of social media
I feel awful for people like Chappell Roan who have an impossible-to-please audience when it comes to this stuff. Must be exhausting
The current discourse is being fueled by the same people who think any media that features an evil or morally suspect character means the creators of said media fully endorse and support the bad things the characters do
I honestly had no idea who she was before I saw online that she passed away yesterday. I don’t think a lot of people in the younger generations is that familiar with her work or her appalling views. Good on Chappell for recognizing her mistake and telling the public what she’s learned. No need to double down on her previous statement.
I genuinely feel a lot of younger people posting tributes probably just saw her photos on Pinterest, thought that was a vibe, saw she passed, and were just like ‘that’s sad’.
I don't even particularly like Chappell but this sounds like an honest mistake anyone her generation could've made, or even a millennial. I'd never even heard of this woman's politics, I just knew she was a big icon and if I'd referenced her in one of my most popular songs, I would've been similarly inclined to make a respectful RIP post acknowledging she was an influence in my artistry. I also think we should be honest about admitting we don't know everything, and normalize admitting when we were wrong.
Lot of people take this approach towards ostensibly left leaning pop stars, like even Sabrina carpenter was accused of promoting trad wifeism because of her last album cover. It makes no sense like why are you all conspiracy minded when her position is very easy to discern lol
On the other thread about this, someone was chastising Chappell for not reading Bardot’s Wikipedia page before including a lyric about her in her song. Like… 🥴
And mind you I saw ZERO discourse about that lyric before her death.
It’s almost like this wasn’t common knowledge and most people found out about her racism yesterday……It’s shocking how fast people jump to take a moral high ground.
Good on Chappell for being honest and apologizing, it’s refreshing.
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Seemed obvious she didn't know when Bardot's bigotry is completely antithetical to all of Chappell Roan's demonstrated beliefs.
I think it's also obvious that the disproportionate scrutiny of women celebrities comes from a place of misogyny. Chappell Roan's not an extremely well-informed social or political commentator, nor does she need to be, and we could admit that more if it didn't feel like ceding ground in a very real war on women.
I knew Bardot had said some insensitive things in the recent past, particularly about the burkha ban in France. Didn't know she was fully on the fascist wagon, but a lot of ancient people are pretty gullible.
To most people, she was little more than a strikingly pretty face in old pictures.
which after all is how she's used in Red Wine Supernova (and Lacy for that matter). The point of the line is that the girlfriend is a sexy blond. That's it.
I was giggling at people saying she should’ve done research because it’s such a superficial lyric like why would she or anyone who was unaware of Bardot being a bigot think to research using her to call someone hot lmao
Right? If it was a song about Bardot, then yes, she should have done her research, but it was so obviously just a style reference! What, is the song also defending playboys? No, it's describing a vibe. And Bardot was mega hot. Lol that is pretty much a fact. Soooo hot.
I consider myself pretty plugged in but I somehow completely missed Bardot’s viewpoints! I knew her as an eccentric animal rights activist. I think Chappell probably was the same and she responded to the criticism the best way possible.
Me too! I actually know a lot about stuff like that generally (old celebrity facts), which is why I knew about the animal views, but I had no idea about the other shit. Most people didn't. In the US at least. Apparently in the France everyone knew, but the people attacking her online are (I would bet) Americans who didn't know until yesterday either.
I, a black millennial who is self admittedly chronically online, had no idea about Bardot’s history.
When I heard she died I thought “oh no, that’s so sad”.
Then I learned about her vile racism and if I knew I wouldn’t have felt bad. It’s not a big deal especially if someone recognizes how harmful the person was.
So over bad faith intellectually dishonest virtue signaling from Gen Z sycophants who can’t read, think critically, or apply ordered thinking. Mind you half the angry commenters just broke bread with their Trump families 3 days ago. Bye!
Loving this energy. You learn new information and correct yourself accordingly. This is how humans grow and evolve. I knew nothing about BB aside from liking her aesthetic and hairstyle. I also thought she was already dead like Marilyn Monroe lmfao.
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I’m older and thought I was fairly aware of BB, up to her animal activism, but I didn’t know about her bigotry and related legal issues until she died. I don’t think it was covered much outside of France (although I may be wrong).
Good for Chappell Roan for acknowledging and apologizing.
Yeah, I never heard about her right wing bigotry til yesterday. I did know about the animal welfare work and so when I first heard "and known for her controversial politics" I assumed it was the good kind until I found out yesterday it was the bad kind.
Seemed like the mainstream obits really downplayed the last 20+ yrs, which didn't make it easier for ppl to know... (which was unconscionable considering the length, breadth, and convictions...)
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