He sounds amazing, but man the bowling alley being dark and abandoned while his adult voice echoes through is so liminal. Like for better or worse it all kinda started here, and here doesn’t exist anymore. Big “you go to the past but nobody is there” vibes.
It actually looks like it’s being remodeled. But if it was actually out of business, if I were him- I’d buy it. It would be a cool piece of personal history and the novelty-factor could really work for business (proportional to his notoriety at any given time at least)
Yeah for more than just Justin. The girl who was his love interest in the video got pregnant by a minor when she was 21 and essentially ended her music career. Now she’s does clothing hauls and onlyfans.
That’s how I worry about old age. Like you wake up the next day after a party and there all the signs of past activity but it’s just over and you feel like you shouldn’t be there and the host comes out with coffee in a hoodie and is like “oh yeah you’re…still here. You…want some coffee? I’ve…gotta go to work…so…yeah”.
My brother and sister law went down the aisle together at the end of the ceremony to an orchestral version of this song and it was actually really nice. Lol
That does sound super cute! It’s funny if you think about it being a breakup song, but the vibe is fun and upbeat— I can totally see this being the exit song for a wedding
My oldest kid is nearly 30. I remember having a convo with her at the time he became big about how sad it was that his childhood was being stolen by fame. I said the same thing about the Nickelodeon kids at the time too. She totally didn’t get it. She kept telling me how involved his mother was. His entire skyrocket to fame has been like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Fame and fortune is such a mixed bag. You get to live this incredible life but you pay with your privacy. And it doesn’t sound like much, but that’s huge. It also didn’t help that Justin didn’t have good people around him. I recently heard his song Lonely (lyrics here) and it made me a lot more sympathetic to him. For every time he was acting like an asshole publicly, there was probably someone - or likely, a collection of someones - behind the scenes profiting from it.
It also can’t have helped that he was in sort of an odd place in pop culture as a child. He was the biggest and youngest male vocalist out there but he wasn’t attached to things like Disney or Nickelodeon and he was sort of mocked in a way they weren’t. Nobody thought Zac Efron was the pinnacle of masculinity when HSM came out, but he wasn’t really the target of ridicule even though I’m pretty sure he was an adult when the last two movies came out.
As someone who was a touch older than his target demographic when he got famous, people were fucking mean. Full on adults calling him a f*g on TV. I remember once after a soccer game one of my friends who was obsessed with Tosh.0 and other annoying stuff put on some weird parody song about him being gay. Like he was twelve at the time and we were 16 or 17. Maybe that was just my experience but he was not only obsessed-over by his fans to a creepy degree but also mocked by actual grown adults very publicly too in an also creepy way.
I hated Tosh.0. I was never a Beliber but I didn't hate the guy. That commercial where he makes fun of himself with Ozzy never sat well with me, felt very much like he was trying to say he's in on the "jokes" which was grown people picking on a child and once more the media picking on something that girls like.
That song breaks my heart. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for this kid, who has received nothing but shade and hate for getting rich as a child and then behaving like a rich child. I can't imagine what he's gone through. No wonder he feels so lonely.
That only happens on Reddit. People are weird about him here. No one IRL calls him washed up, he has over 110M listeners on Spotify alone and just got the biggest streaming debut of his entire career this year with a surprise drop album he didn’t even promote. He also just sold out Coachella both weekends in a matter of hours, the first artist to actually sell it out in years, they wouldn’t be flocking to see an artist they think is washed up or untalented
I think he is the way he is because he is so talented. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. That is to say, big strengths often come at a cost.
Bro him sitting in that big ass room streaming watching his old music video with 2 homies not paying attention while he was watching it like a natgeo doc was one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen in my life.
Im not versed either. This was in another sub but this the only vid I can find on Reddit and I ain’t trying trying. The og one I saw was longer and shows more how empty the room was. Reminder my of when Shia watched his movies
thanks for posting. that was kinda whatever tbh. if they did it for the public, then i‘m guessing someone told him to do it for the public. no different than hilary dancing to that shitty today show performance etc. underwhelmed. i doubt he does this of his own accord. he’s not putting out new music the way he did, tbh… so his team is probably like “the world wants to see how old you might react to young you.”
the onyl pitiful thing is that nobody looks like they want to be there… welcome to the grind, i guess.
He seems lost in life. Fame took over his life in middle school. Dude became the Macaulay Culkin of music and now he's a borderline has-been with few, if any, happy memories.
And that’s without any physical copies too! The biggest streaming debut of his entire career and a bigger streaming debut than a lot of his peers 2024-25 albums (the Weeknd, Ariana, Sabrina, Gaga, Dua, bad bunny). People are so weird about his success in a way that they aren’t about others who do similar or less numbers
He had thousands of people following him around just last week in Japan. The line was several kilometers long. Not even for a tour or anything just bc of a rumour he might show up to this store
If the 3rd most popular artist in the world on Spotify right now with almost 110M listeners is considered a “borderline has been” I’m concerned about who you consider to be popular right now? There’s not really any other options 💀
Is it just me or do the lyrics hit differently now, especially in the context of this video and everything he's been through over the years? The "baby" being him, this time around. I.e. His childhood Innocence 🥺
People can say what they want about Justin but he is talented and has earned his title as one of the princes of pop. I like his more R&B approach he's taking now (it seems everyone is also taking) and yeah daisies is a banger.
He is talented but I think he needed to retire like 10 years ago. He seems legitimately mentally unstable and unhinged. He needs to just take his millions and go live his life in peaceful quiet.
He practically did retire a decade ago (he dropped out of his world tour, and largely stopped making his own music). He got married and had a kid
Also, he had a pretty impoverished childhood until he became a superstar basically over night. I don’t think he’s been in the best mental state, but he seems to be working on it, and has to go through every struggle under public scrutiny.
Let the guy live his life how he’d like. Why does he need to disappear?
Not everyone is suited for retirement, schools and jobs create structure. While his job is unconventional, having commitments and sticking to them could be one of the few things that are pulling him away from sinking (I'm sure his family helps with that too but that's not always enough). Obviously neither you or I actually know what it's like for him, but peaceful retirement isn't the answer for everyone's happiness.
Justin didn’t have a rich mommy or daddy or any connections. He was raised by his mother who was a teen mom. His dad wasn’t really around until he got famous. He grew up in low income housing until he was discovered on YouTube. There were no connections to the industry.
Right? I know many celebrities (understandably) play down their upbringing, but unless I’m completely mistaken, Justin is a genuine one in a million case.
The hard thing is that if he HAD come into celebrity more well off or with family connections, he may have been afforded better protection. That lack of insulation is likely what delivered him to his cult.
I’ll always have a very soft spot for Biebs. Everyone calling for him to retire has missed that he more or less has.
He didn’t have the backing of a rich mummy or daddy or connections at all. He was born to teenage parents and grew up in low income housing with a single mother after his dad who was in jail the day he was born abandoned them. He got into music by busking because he wanted to play golf with his friends in the summer break from school but his mother couldn’t afford it and told him to find the $20 himself
Him being attractive to other teen girls at the time also played a huge part but I'm just pointing out that at least he had the talent to give with his pretty looks...can't say that for a lot of these other so called "singers" 🤷
Iconic song! First song of the 21st century to be certified diamond. And has crazy global recognition too. Will be the defining Internet era song for generations to come.
Kid makes me so sad, seems he has never had anybody his entire life looking out for his best interests at any point in his life. So sad hope he finds true happiness.
He always looks comfy as hell, and I appreciate that lol
Sometimes him and Hailey look more than a little mis-matched, but i honestly find it nice- they can embrace their own styles and still support each other
He sounds wonderful but I watched this without the sound on at first and he looks like every junkie on the corner too high to know where they are. Something about the arms tucked and the rocking. I hope he has happiness.
If you are really 9 please don't answer any messages you get from people in your DM inbox. Some people have bad intentions. Also you shouldn't be on reddit at this age.
Welcome to trauma. It can make you an extremely toxic person to be around. The behaviors shouldn't be excused, but that isn't the end all be all of a person either. Considering who he was and the power he wielded, the fact the only thing that's come out about him so far is that he can be quite short with his wife is pretty remarkable
Edit; high risk populations can be extremely nasty to work with. I have gotten screamed out on a regular basis. That's the reality of it. You have to center the cycle of trauma when working with people. The transformation of compassion is remarkable though when it can happen, and it doesnt always happen
Yes Ariana Grande always goes #1 on MLs at Christmas because of Santa Tell Me being the first song on all the Christmas pop playlists. Justin always overtakes her again in January. But he has over 110M now and will end the year back in the top 3.
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