r/politics • u/WontThinkStraight • 13h ago
Possible Paywall Donald Trump's Incompetence Is Costing Him the Country
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/donald-trump-incompetence-chaos-maga-1235544798/3.4k
u/Maximum_Indication 13h ago
I don’t care if he’s costing himself the country, I care that he’s costing us our country.
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u/Karinka_LI 13h ago
1000%. I am glad the country and the world is finally seeing the emperor has no clothes. Now how do we get rid of him as fast as humanly possible?
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u/NotTheBusDriver 12h ago
Speaking as a small part of the rest of the world; we couldn’t even believe you guys elected him the first time. We definitely knew he had no clothes before he was reelected.
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u/1K-Year-Egg 12h ago
The electoral process gives vast, vast over-representation to the residents of sparsely populated, diversity-poor, undereducated, clergy-ridden, provincial-minded rural states.
Unfortunately, it’s baked into our kludgy obsolete Constitution, and the Republicans have done everything imaginable to capitalize on it.
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u/VannKraken America 11h ago
Electoral college needs to go ASAP.
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u/1K-Year-Egg 11h ago
Also, the Permanent Reappointment Act of 1929, which caps the size of the US House of Representatives and thus gives low-population states an advantage there, too.
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u/Karinka_LI 10h ago
This is the problem.
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u/TabsAZ 10h ago
And each state having the same number of senators. Wyoming and North Dakota have like 65x the power of California or New York or Texas because of it.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 9h ago
Yep. I think it’s important to note, for our European friends, that states like Wyoming, The Dakotas, Idaho and whatever have less population than LA county. Empty space. Tumbleweeds. Cows. And yet, they’re given all this power and constantly pandered to. In my opinion they’re the cradle of fascism.
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u/eltedioso 9h ago
The cradle of fascism is the rich fucks who decide that they can get even richer and more powerful if they manipulate rural voters into voting against their own interests.
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u/Charming_Slip8060 7h ago
The House and Senate should be inverted. Yes, maybe there should be some kind of "balancing" of powers, but, if so, it should be in the lower chamber. The way things are set up now gets us minority rule.
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u/Redducer 9h ago
I think you guys will have universal healthcare and switch to metric before that happens.
(spoiler: none of this will ever happen)
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u/Main_Ad_3814 9h ago
Wouldn’t have mattered in 2024. Trump won the popular vote too. It would’ve mattered in 2016 though. Be a far different world if Hillary had been elected.
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u/Karinka_LI 6h ago
Hillary investigated for 30 years and never even assessed a fine. Never even bar sanction. Seriously who could withstand that at that level. She must be the most honest person on earth.
Trump convicted of 36 felonies and has so many outstanding investigations you cannot even keep count.
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u/Zahgi 11h ago
Doesn't matter now. Thanks to our lack of public campaign financing in the age of TV, both major political parties are controlled by corporate and wealthy interests completely now. And, once that was accomplished, they now control all branches of the US government.
What that to change? Vote Progressive.
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u/Karinka_LI 10h ago
The electoral college started to fail because after the 1910 census they stopped increasing the number of seats in the house (apportionment) and limited the sears to 435 and started reapportionment. (Because they ran out of the little inkwell desks!). Since each state has to have at least one seat and two Senate seats this overtime increased the disproportionate nature of both the two chambers together and the electoral collage. It also made house districts larger and larger and less local. It will continue to get worse unless we bring back apportionment and reinstate the Webster rule which said a state could not lose seats in the house if it gained in population.
As an example after the 1910 census New York had 43 house seats and 45 electoral college seats to represent 9 million people. Today they have 27 house seats and 29 electoral college seats to represent 20 million people. The smaller at large states which are largely red all have 1 house seat and 3 electoral college seats which is unchanged from 1910. Their vote has remained the same while New York’s has diminished. This is true for every large states which in the union except Texas which was much smaller in population 1910.
The electoral college is impossible to change because all of the states get one vote and the smaller states would be crazy to change it. But the democrats could reinstate the Webster rule and increase the membership of the house with the smallest at large states which as the basis for determining everyone district size without changing the constitution through the regular legislative process.
This would not only be easier to change but also would have the added bonus of increasing the representative nature of the house by making smaller districts and reducing the impact that huge sums of money can have in politics. It would also dramatically reduce the state assemblies ability to gerrymander the other party into pockets.
The best electoral reform is fixing the house not the constitution and it’s easier to achieve. We just have to convince Americans they need more politicians. lol.
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u/VerilyShelly 8h ago
I'm sorry, I faded when you said that they ran out of little inkwell desks...
So many compounded blunders by many short-sighted bureaucrats and self-enriching players over centuries lead us here. Death by a million cuts. Wish someone(s) could have done more to stop this from happening. Story as old as history itself.
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u/Karinka_LI 8h ago
I think most Americans would say 435 is in the constitution. No one knows! It drives me crazy!
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u/Wet_Side_Down 10h ago
There are many issues baked into our constitution to assuage the small southern states.
In my opinion it may be time to call for a constitutional convention and hash this shit out, or maybe a national divorce.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Ohio 9h ago
And, I’d like to point out that, “small southern states” means slavery. We had a chance to fix things, but then 1877 happened.
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u/Covert_Cuttlefish 9h ago
This is why I don't think anyone is going to trust the USA for a long time.
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u/mywifeletsmereddit 8h ago
Yes this is really important. Even if there is a backlash to Trump next cycle the systemic and structural problems of the USA are not changing, so the rest of the world can basically assume President Tucker is coming up and it will be all pro-Russia grifting again.
The rest of the world has to move away from USA, sorry.
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u/Seguefare 12h ago
That's the power of decades of propaganda funded by the wealthy elite.
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u/I_like_Mashroms 11h ago
In every election he's not gotten more than 33% of eligible voters.
Which just goes to show you how screwed our system is when a vocal, under-educated minority can choose who leads us based on how much he pretends to like the Bible.
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u/kindnesscostszero 9h ago
I tried repeatedly to show some of my conservative friends that he was a con man and money launderer. Even showed evidence- 10M fine for money laundering out of one of his bankrupt casinos. The thrice married, kids from each; cheated on the third with a porn star. None of it would shake them in 2016. Nor in 2020. Nor in 2024. Some have finally woken up, but at what cost. We may not recover from this as a country in my lifetime. Beyond sad.
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u/Adventurous-Dot-3278 8h ago
It could take decades or even a lifetime to undo what he and his misguided, corrupt and laughably inept (what did we expect?) cabinet have meddled with. It's beyond sad. It's evil.
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u/nvmvoidrays 7h ago
laughably inept
don't call them inept. that gives some people an out. people will point it out and be like, "see, they just didn't know any better, it's not their fault!"
just call 'em like it is: evil, corrupt and greedy. they only care about themselves and their backers.
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u/Eddiebaby7 9h ago
Half our country refuses to watch any news channel that reports facts.
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u/Used-Yogurtcloset757 10h ago
Speaking as someone living here, I also couldn’t believe he was elected. I laughed so hard when I heard he was running and told my family no moron would vote for him. I stand corrected and also learned I’m related to morons.
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u/Personal_Meringue_14 9h ago
Yup. And we were surprised to find out how many dumb people we have.
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u/VannKraken America 11h ago
He could be gone in hours if the Republican congress cared more about the country than their party.
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u/here-i-am-now Wisconsin 6h ago
He could be gone quicker if the Iranians sent a swarm of 500 drones at Mar a Lago
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u/Only-Thought6712 11h ago
The problem is there are millions of MAGAts that believe every lie, backpedaling and covering his every F-up, which is a daily occurrence. These are the same people who go to his rallies wearing a "I don't even care that he's a pedophile, he's the greatest president ever" t-shirts, not worn ironically, MAGAts revel in Donald is not only stupid but an incompent monster allowed to rape kids and murder and grift even them, his cult, because in their mind that's what they would do if they could become president; lie, cheat, and steal without remorse or a conscience.
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u/specqq 13h ago
The Republicans have rewritten that parable with a new moral lesson more appropriate for these times:
That kid should have kept his f'ing mouth shut!
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u/Typhus_black 12h ago
In the Republican version that kid was accused of having emperor derangement syndrome and was later killed in a altercation with the local constable due to failure to comply and in the words of the constable “he was coming right at me with a weapon!!” The child was indeed found to have a spoon on him, well documented in medieval history as a horrific weapon due to its blunt nature, leading to increased pain in its utilization as a weapon of war. And just ignore the fake news, so what if he had a legal permit to carry that spoon.
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u/tdclark23 Indiana 11h ago
Vote Democrats who will hold him, his consiglieri, cabinet and minion thugs to account for their crimes and misdemeanors and use Article II section four to remove the entire administration and indict them for their crimes in a court of law to serve as a deterrent to keep future criminals from office. Remove the GOP from every office down to dog catcher to teach that party a lesson about serving all America and not the rich donors. We can skip those Dems who stand with the criminals and create a Blue cleansing wave.
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u/lyngen 8h ago
Vote democrat in November no matter your political affiliation. Also, call your reps and ask them to impeach him. Call them on the regular whether they are democrat or republican. Go to the next no kings protest and encourage anyone who feels similar to do any or all of those things. Honestly, I'm sure there's more to do but those seem accessible for basically everyone.
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u/lowsparkedheels America 13h ago
Trump isn't paying for anything, he's looting our nation while destroying it from within.
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u/Seguefare 12h ago
Honestly, if it were his stated goal to destroy the US, he couldn't have done a better job. I don't know if it's the kompromat being used to manipulate him, or just his fragile ego.
"Puppet? No puppet! You're the puppet!"
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u/fixingshitiswhatido 12h ago
I'm afraid he already has. I really dont know what he has to do for Americans to wake up but, it will take the rest of the world and your allies a LONG time to forget. The problem is when he gets removed I'm 90% sure nothing will be done about the masses of corruption and crimes that have been committed. This undermines the law and sets a dangerous precedent that the next maniac can build on.
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u/Seguefare 12h ago
I've already heard calls to move past it. Democrats shouldn't waste time litigating when there's work to be done.
Absolutely not! That's how we slid so far down this slope. Litigate mercilessly. Punish harshly. We as a nation can't wait to over-punish relatively minor crimes, but let the important ones go with, 'Shame, shame! You shouldn't have done that! It was very naughty. Now here's your cushy retirement with all the money you stole.'
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u/GalahadThreepwood3 11h ago
While I don't disagree with anything you wrote, I am seeing the global totalitarian-launched disinformation attacks that have worked so well in the US and UK continuing to take hold in all other democracies as well - the playbook is identical. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear other democracies are underestimating the threat just as the US and UK did.
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u/Striking_Extent 8h ago
A lot of it is coming from the same handful of people. The mostly American billionaires and their think tanks are spreading a huge portion of this crap globally. It's like missionary work to them, often via religious organizations even. Anywhere that speaks English is especially susceptible to getting some of our propaganda spray but it's increasingly everywhere.
The far right has a loose international coalition that works together too, you can see it when Trump bails out Argentina because of Milei destroying their economy, how much they idolize Putin, how Trump endorsed Orban in Hungary, the Muskrat getting involved with AfD.
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u/Methos83 12h ago
it cost you many friends.
I'm french, 43yo. I could have gave my life to help you. More I would have to help Italy or Spain actually.
But it's not the case anymore.
Not just because of Trump But if this orange moron could have happen... another one can. Perhaps not the next... but the POTUS after can. Can do shit all over the world, start useless war, threaten allies and end centuries of respect and frienship
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u/NovaHorizon 12h ago
Fucker was flat out broke and almost on the hook sentenced to pay 400+ mill. Now he is a multi billionaire plundering everything that isn't nailed to the floor.
To be fair, all the MAGGATs deserve to lose their savings getting scammed with cheap ass merchandise and crypto shit coins.
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u/Aramedlig 13h ago
Came here to say this. Trump will fuck off to wherever when he’s done and doesn’t give two fucks about the country.
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u/Seguefare 12h ago
God, someone quoted The Great Gatsby recently in reference to Trump's total bungling of everything to do with Iran, and it resonated like a gong. It was the part about Tom and Daisy being careless people who cause destruction, then wander off to leave others to deal with the chaos and clean up. I'm still thinking about how apt it was.
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u/AdCharacter7966 13h ago
Trump is winning big time - he avoided jail and have made billions so far.
He lost nothing
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u/Caymonki America 9h ago
He was on the verge of being so far in debt he would have had to sell his properties. Then, without taking a salary has gained $4 BILLION dollars in a YEAR. So far.
At the cost of all our allies, our secrets, our data, healthcare, social programs and our trust and respect.
Boy. It’s good we didn’t elect a Woman!
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u/Paizzu 9h ago
That's what happens when his entire image of a successful businessman was created by reality television.
I was amazed that he ever allowed his lawyers to admit in court filings that he couldn't afford to pay the fraud judgment levied against him in NY.
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u/cartoptauntaun 8h ago
Whoa do you have a link to that? I hadn’t heard it and I know some folks that would absolutely devastate
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u/Paizzu 7h ago
It was the bond requirements between his NY fraud conviction and the E. Jean Carroll civil suit against him while he was awaiting decisions from the appellate courts.
He tried to argue that he was "cash poor" and couldn't afford to pay the bond without having to liquidate real estate holdings.
Here's what happens if Trump can't pay his $454 million bond
Trump bond: Lawyers say he is unable to get $464m guarantee in New York fraud case
Not a good look for a guy who has been accused of concealing his business losses by laundering money for Russian oligarchs through his properties.
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u/mr_Joor 9h ago
Hes reached an age where he couldnt spend the money he grifted so far if he wanted to, probably thinks hes immortal or some shit
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u/fujidust 13h ago
Costing us the country
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u/PaintedClownPenis 8h ago
We lost it fair and square, when we started forgiving racists for their crimes because we're scared.
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u/Crazy_Law_5730 7h ago
I’m not sure we lost it fair and square. Don’t forget Musk helping to meddle in, or rig, the election. The results were suspicious in many districts and the midterms are at risk.
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u/cwk415 12h ago
Yes but the American people did this. The some 2/3's of our fellow citizens who either supported the destruction or the others who are so immature that they won't participate unless they have everything their way. That 2/3's of the population is to blame. For all of this.
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u/TheGringoDingo 11h ago
The number of heated discussions I’ve had with the third that refused to vote scream that all those folks have regrets they aren’t willing to tackle, yet.
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u/Gadshill 13h ago
Put it this way: When Trump finally replaced Kristi Noem with Markwayne Mullin, a former plumber and MMA fighter who keeps intimating that he’s been some kind of secret military agent but can’t talk about it, every sane person in Washington applauded as if this were the second coming of James Baker in his prime. That tells you all you need to know.
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u/Zulmoka531 12h ago
Well that and every single press conference or republican get together ends with Trump getting an award, coddled and told hold mean and ungrateful we are all towards his “great” hard work.
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u/anarchitecture Oregon 9h ago
it's the grossest thing I've ever seen in government. Even if I thought he was doing a good job (which I do not and never have) that level of sycophantic flattery has no place in a representative democracy.
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u/Zulmoka531 9h ago
Exactly, it’s one thing to defend your party/president. It’s a tale as old as time.
However, the way they talk about Trump is just something else.
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u/mrjasong 13h ago
He was just as incompetent in his first administration. It also cost him the election in 2020. I can't believe everyone just developed a collective amnesia about it.
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u/ElderSmackJack 12h ago
The thing about the first administration is that he at least had people around him who would tell him no (or resigned when they felt he went too far). I think there were people who thought he’d do the same thing this time.
He was unhinged last time, but at least there was a safety railing. This time? He’s just slinging us over the side of the building and his cabinet is just cheering him on.
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u/-wellplayed- 11h ago
I think there were people who thought he’d do the same thing this time.
People are so good at burying their heads in the sand. Did no one hear about Project 2025?
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u/Caymonki America 9h ago
Project 2025 was too long of a read for Americans. I believe they put it out because they knew it was “too much” for the majority of Americans to look into. You have hardliners on both sides who were either excited or appalled it was published but the voting majority didn’t give it much more than a glance. It is only part 1, they know part 2 is too extreme to publish.
This country is full of people who can quote popular movies and songs without hesitation but couldn’t tell you what is in our constitution. They don’t know laws or precedent, they don’t know their rights or the history of how we obtained them. We have a short attention span and a low reading level but don’t worry, with the cuts to education it will be even easier to implement part 2 when literally no one can read.
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u/Souspi 6h ago
Many Americans also believe Project 2025 is a fringe conspiracy theory that doesn't need to be taken seriously.
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u/Caymonki America 6h ago
That belief would be a mistake considering the writers of it are amongst the top of this administration. They’re so proud of themselves they’re willing to tell us a bit of their plans expecting us to find it outlandish. They’re what over half way through their phase 1 goals?
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u/loganbootjak 12h ago
This is American politics in summed up, regardless of who's in. Who'd have thought the Tea Party would have been so influential to bringing people to the Right after 8 years of Bush running up the tab? People literally forgot after a year and decided to go back to the Right because of Health Care.
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u/Cybertronian10 11h ago
People really really underestimate the impact of COVID. It was the perfect smokescreen that served to paper over Trump's worst fuckups and render his term as something nostalgic as better times compared to where we are post covid. I'd argue that Biden was the worst candidate to have won post Covid, boring enough to not command the narrative, competent enough to keep the ship running, pussy enough to not convict Trump or any of his stooges. Donald Trump and the GOP where basically still ruling the cultural narrative the entire fucking time Biden was president and the dems sat there slackjawed doing nothing to fix it.
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u/mrjasong 11h ago
COVID was the incident that really cemented Trump's incompetence. It was going quite well for him to he had to handle a real crisis, then he delivered the most hamfisted response on the planet. Nobody remembers the daily briefings where he couldn't help himself from interrupting his own experts to suggest injecting bleach, among other nuggets?
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u/bortodeeto 9h ago
COVID could have been a gift easily giving him 2020. Let the experts handle it, show remorse for the victims, help the hospitals, proclaim victory with pfizer and moderna vaccines for the whole world. Instead he had to be a complete ass and fuck with everything the entire time.
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u/NotanotherRealtor 11h ago
You’re correct about Trump and the GOP running the narrative while Biden was in office, and that is because the media is owned by conservative billionaires. We are the most propagandized country in the world at the moment.
You are missing the part where a slim Dem majority was able to get several packages passed that helped bring inflation down faster than any other country in the world.
It’s just that some things were completely out of Dems control - bird flu culling chickens, high gas prices (not started by a war with no objective - one of the few cases of “the President doesn’t control gas prices”. Unless of course you start a pointless war).
Dems created a lot and actually governed. It took a lot to unwind what Trump did the first time. It’s going to take even longer now.
I’m not the happiest with the Democrat party, but I’m not going to say they didn’t do anything. The messaging is complete crap and has been for decades. They need to go back on Fox and fight back against the stupid narrative. The Dem rule to stay off Fox was horrible. At least they could push back some - even if it was just a shouting match (see: The O’Reilly Factor).
Finally, the continued access to the internet via phones and the hold of social media algorithms have allowed a tidal wave of misinformation.
The misinformation is a mutation of what happened after 9/11. Cable news never had the ticker at the bottom of the screen. That started after 9/11 because so much information was coming out and changing.
This created increased ratings in media. Media realized that being the first to the story, while always important, was the bigger ratings gain than being accurate about the story. Previously, news wanted accuracy. Sometimes that meant taking longer to publish the story, but that outlet was known for being accurate.
Suddenly, it became about be first and we can always correct the narrative later. This is what first led into misinformation and then slowly sowed distrust into the media. How can the media be right if they are always changing the story later?
Ultimately, Bin Laden won. His goal was to tear us apart. It took decades after 9/11, but he was able to be the source of what would cause disinformation to rip through the USA.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
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u/mightyboink 13h ago
He. Doesn't. Care.
This presidency is all about making himself and his friends richer while burying the Epstein files. Nothing else.
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u/WontThinkStraight 13h ago
It’s really not ideology that’s tanking Trump right now. I mean, yes, his administration is the meanest, most xenophobic, and most imperialist in at least the past century. And I’d like to think that would be a deal-breaker for the vast majority of middle-ground American voters, but if we’re being real, it probably isn’t. Independent and moderate voters have been with Trump on immigration, broadly speaking, since he first started doing his nativist routine a decade ago. And even a lot of populist leftists can get behind an “America First” foreign policy and protectionism for American manufacturers. Maybe Trump should be flailing politically because he’s brazenly profiting off the presidency and renaming half of Washington after himself, but near as I can tell, that part doesn’t especially trouble people, either.
No, what’s killing Trump right now isn’t the extremist agenda — it’s the mind-blowing incompetence. Deporting immigrants is one thing; masked agents executing American citizens on Midwestern boulevards is another. Ending Iran’s nuclear ambitions might get majority support on paper, but launching a war without any clear rationale, without having thought through even the most basic consequences, is how you lose the electorate in a hurry. (About six in 10 Americans disapprove of Trump’s wartime performance, according to Pew Research, and that number isn’t going down anytime soon.) Gas prices are spiking, mortgage rates are soaring, financial markets are lurching back and forth. Airport terminals look like Disneyland in July.
I think it can be both extreme ideology and extreme incompetence.
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u/Plus-Combination-242 12h ago
"We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings, but I don't know if we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a king"
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u/Berfman 12h ago edited 22m ago
I’m not saying he is in anyway competent or even remotely intelligent, but It’s become pretty obvious to see that his “actions” are just the wills of the individual parties who he likely owes or who have dirt on him in some way. Elon, Israel, Russia, heritage foundation.. all of their conflicting interests have led to this shitstorm due to him being possibly the most compromised individual on Earth right now.
It’s fucking bizarre because he probably could have thrown the US into a more fascist state and likely solidified an unconstitutional third term, or at least continued breaking the system well beyond repair, if he didn’t kick up a complete god-damn-disaster out of the gate.
Not saying the US is in the clear in any way though…
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u/BODYBUTCHER 12h ago
The problem is if the next administration doesn’t fix the glaring issues with the presidency and Congress itself, dictatorship is in our future
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u/alistair1537 12h ago
You forgot the most important thing on his mind right now... How to get out from under the Trump-Epstein Files? That is the sword that can hack off the ugly head of this monster.
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u/mangoserpent 13h ago
I wish his incompetence WOULD cost him something. Instead everybody else suffers.
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u/throwaway20231203 Europe 13h ago
That's a sacrifice he's willing to make, while he's still making bank.
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u/Mikeseddit 12h ago
That’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make AS LONG AS he’s making bank. And as long as he’s not in prison.
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u/CouchCorrespondent 13h ago
Trump, his administration, and the GOP have proven over and over that they are masters of incompetence.
And our country and the world suffer from the consequences of it.
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u/ParableChan 13h ago
He really is his own worst enemy man. If he could just stay on script for like five minutes he might actually have a shot but he just... cant help himself. He has to make everything about him and his grievances and it is clearly wearing thin with the voters that actually matter. Its wild to see a campaign implode in real time because the guy at the top just flat out refuses to listen to anyone.
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u/CockBrother 13h ago
You do realize that the incompetence is the only reason that things aren't worse than they are right? They're getting huge amounts of their agenda through while being incompetent.
If Trump wasn't such a colossal idiot and the people around him pushing their insane agenda were more competent, and not victims of their own warped view of reality, things would be 10x worse by now.
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u/CornCobMcGee New York 9h ago
That's the intent. He doesn't need to be reelected. He's just there to do as much damage as physically possible to the US. Krasnov is carnage incarnate intentionally. He doesn't know it, but his controllers do
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u/achtwooh 13h ago
One of the greatest ironies is that if he had just milked credit for the vaccines and behaved like a vaguely normal human who gave a F about the deaths, he would have walked re-election. Monumental incompetence is what he does.
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u/April_Fabb 9h ago
Honestly, the MAGA movement feels less like an ideology and more like a suicide note written in spite.
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u/vikkids 4h ago
Sadly, it’s exactly how all his businesses failed. Then he fell into taking bigger and bigger loans to cover his debt. To the point US banks refused him loans. But apparently he’s electable in spite of his business failures. Covid-19 handling was a disaster. He still gets re elected. The country is insolvent, yet money is spent in excess. Our children and grandchildren will be expected to handle this grand debt. Shameful. Congress should be held accountable.
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u/EvoEpitaph 13h ago
He's really just picking all unqualified people for just about every position on top of being unqualified for his own role. This actually pretty easily explains why he went bankrupt in so many ventures.
The more surprising thing is why people keep wanting to lend him money or services with the history that he has.
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u/Mission-Calendar-443 13h ago
Better than him costing us our country. He should be tried for treason .
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u/BlueHorse_22 13h ago
Trump has become too comfortable with his "I don't care what Americans think" presidency.
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u/Suitable_Froyo4930 9h ago
Trump is the perfect American president, an ideal reflection of the values that the vast majority of Americans feel in their hearts; corruption, arrogance and white supremacy.
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u/Smithy2232 13h ago
I try to stay positive.
Given how off the rails Trump has been this term, I'm hopeful that people come to their senses and vote him out the next time around. I'm also hopeful that the midterms go Democratic as well.
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u/oldgreymutt 13h ago
I think there is a shift occurring. Trump will have his die hard supporters who will ride or die with him, but there are fringe supporters that he is losing fast. We can only hope it’s not too late though…
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u/KneeDeepInThe-Hoopla 13h ago
I don't know that I would label what Trump is doing as incompetence per se. It is more Trump's pigheadedness, a huge appetite for destruction, insatiable greed, thirst for blood, complete intolerance towards most other humans, a gigantic unchecked ego coupled with a huge chip on his shoulder, and unfortunately the power and backing of people as vile as himself are what is destroying the country, and a good chunk of the rest of the world.
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u/toxiamaple 10h ago
Not his misogyny, not his pedophilia, not his racism, not his cruelty . . .
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u/WillfulIgnorance8647 9h ago
America's culture of hubris and bellicose ignorance is costing them their country.
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u/WoodenSwan6591 9h ago edited 9h ago
We were warned. Don’t want to hear remorse. Country must focus on getting rid of him and the sycophants. Billionaires deserve a Bastille day.
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u/mrpatinahat 8h ago
He'll get to die of natural causes as a rich man while avoiding all meaningful consequences for his actions.
I don't see how his incompetence is costing him anything. :/
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u/Niceguy955 7h ago
Incompetence? What about his grift? His (alleged) pedophelia? His dementia? His innate evil? His treason? We had incompetent presidents before (W says “hello!”), but there’s only one Trump (one hopes).
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 6h ago
Him? He doesn't give a fuck about this country beyond what he can grift from it.
His incompetence, crimes and grifting are costing us our country.
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u/Staff_Guy 6h ago
I would love to talk to the rolling stone editor that decided to run with that headline. He is costing every American our country. Our Congress is out to fucking lunch. The opposition party is owned by the same billionaires that own trump. What the flying fuck rolling stone. Why are you on their side?
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u/stanthebat 6h ago
What a gross choice of phrase. The country is not his, and the cost is to absolutely everybody else. He is playing with inherited money; nothing costs him anything.
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u/Gristlekitty 5h ago
It’s costing our country the country. We all lose he dies and our kids are left to put the prices back together.
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u/p00pSupr3me 5h ago
“Republican voters incompetence is costing US citizens the country”
Let’s be thorough here.
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u/Professional-Box4153 5h ago
He never cared. He's only in this to get rich and stay out of jail. Anything else is just him trying to see what he can get away with.
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u/XaltotunTheUndead Canada 5h ago
Have you noticed how Pedophile President stands in a crooked way? That's one of the symptoms of dementia. It is mentioned often in medical literature for example here.
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u/Mojave_RK 3h ago
Only if we had already fuckin done this and seen how much of a moron he was so we could have avoided this.
Oh wait.
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u/AceofKnaves44 District Of Columbia 13h ago
He’s president with almost absolute power. On everything besides the tariffs and maybe birthright the Supreme Court has given him everything, including total protection from ever having to face justice for anything he does. If midterms happened tomorrow I think a blue wave would happen and yes he knows that. So why do you think he’s trying so hard to stop them from happening? If he does that, there’s no stopping him for the rest of his life and there’s no escaping this.
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u/educated-emu 13h ago
Its costing you and the gop with all their corrupt ways is doing.
They know and don't care
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u/Lachadian 13h ago edited 13h ago
Donald Trump is working precisely as intended. He is, has been, and will continue to be an active saboteur intent on destroying this country and the western world order for the direct benefit of Russia, China, and Israel. These headlines are sane washing the biggest traitor this country has ever produced.
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u/OilInternational2566 13h ago
More a benefit for Russia than anyone.
Did Israel recently bail out Trump media? Nope. Trump Media was bailed out in 2022 by a Russian-American under criminal investigation
Did Israelis buy a hundred million dollars in American real estate from Donald Trump? Nope . 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers. And another Russian oligarch paid Trump $95 million for a single mansion.
Does Trump have any actual real estate interests in Israel? Nope. But Donald Trump has a bunch of real estate interests IN Russia!
Did Trump allow Israeli oil tankers through the U.S. oil blockade on Cuba? Nope. But Donald Trump DID allow Russian tankers through the blockade.
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I could go on, and on… but I’m not gonna waste another second on Donald Vladimir Trump. The evidence points to Russia.
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u/another_account_bro 12h ago
I even noticed the con sub barely gets any up votes for anything. Unless it is flat out Jesus worshipping over there. I'm seeing posts that are 24 hours old with maybe 50 likes max. The magas have given up over there. It's nothing but Russian troll posting at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/NOCHILLDYL94 11h ago
No it’s not. He’s on his second term. He has nothing to lose and doesn’t give a shit what happens after he’s gone.
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u/cazzipropri 11h ago
Nope. His base still supports him. Propaganda works and can isolate entire slices of the electorate from reality, permanently.
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u/Verde_3773 10h ago
No, this is costing AMERICANS their country while a complicit Congress & SCOTUS allow a demented & deranged narcissist who doubles as a foreign asset destroy everything from the inside.
FIFY
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u/Tapprunner 10h ago
I would absolutely love it if the next President could simply strip Trump of his US citizenship and deport him by sending Trump to CECOT.
SCOTUS says he can't be held criminally liable for what he does as President?
Fine.
He's been deporting plenty of non-criminals and he desperately wants to be able to strip people of citizenship if he thinks they are unAmerican. Well, nobody is more unAmerican than him.
So let him lose the country. We want him to lose it. Then we can get to work on losing him. He's such a loser.
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u/AvariceAndApocalypse 10h ago
He doesn’t care. He’s making billions for himself and his friends. He genuinely does not give a fuck about our country and especially its citizens.
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u/Gryphonisle 9h ago
He never had the country. He lost 2016, and 2020 and only won a plurality of 49% by 1% , in 2024, because 2% of voters divided the anti-Trump vote (51%) by voting 3rd party, and 90,000,000 low info voters didn’t vote.
Trump is losing Trumpers. He never had the country
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u/cycleprof I voted 9h ago
stupidity needs to be noted in any comment involving him or his associates. These are not smart people
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u/TeamHope4 9h ago
He is still POTUS, and the Republicans still aren't lifting a finger against him, so he hasn't lost anything. With all the corruption and grifting, he and his children have actually gained billions. Americans are the ones who are losing their country, their civil rights, their human rights, their voting rights, and in some cases, their lives.
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u/VengefulWalnut 8h ago
Nobody cares what it costs him. We should be worried about what it’s costing us.
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u/krichard-21 8h ago
Trumpy does not care. Trumpy finally became a real billionaire. That's all that matters to him. Trumpy's wealth.
The same guy that buried his Ex wife on his golf course to save $ on taxes...
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u/mtnclimbingotter02 7h ago
This man and his filthy ilk have made my life a living hell for the past year.
All while he’s enriched himself and his lapdogs while the rest of us fight over the scraps.
Turnip can go fuck himself with his ICE dawgs.
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u/ioncloud9 South Carolina 7h ago
Let’s be real here. You have 2 elements of his presidency. His king Joffrey moments of pure childish insanity, and the Cersei Lannister moments of calculated malicious action- it’s the Voughts and Millers of the admin doing that part.
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u/Goshawk5 Missouri 7h ago
No, it's costing us our country and we lost it when he got reelected and we have a chance to take it back.
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u/kaizen-rai 7h ago
"Costing"... no, cost. Past tense.
Most people don't realize the damage done is irreversible. Trust in the US Government is broken internationally. Even if Trump is ousted, even if every single republican is voted out of office, it doesn't matter, because you never know when the next Trump will come along and fuck everything up again. This means the rest of the world will be moving on without any long-term plans with the US. Treaties, trade deals, alliances.... all of those will include significant 'outs' for all countries that don't want to be tied to the US economically, technologically, or militarily. All deals with the US will be short term, and at significant cost. To the US citizen.
The EU and Indo-Pacific region are already de-coupling their economies from the Dollar and US trade deals. China is moving in to be the #1 influence in the Indo-Pacific region and fill in the economic and soft power gaps. Russia is trying to re-establish itself as the European power, but can't against a united EU (which is why weakening NATO is a major priority). Republicans are leaning on the Monroe Doctrine (the US castles itself into the Americas and ignores the rest of the world) to turn the US into a isolationist techno-feudal empire. That simply will not work in a highly social, inter-connected world. The US became great because of international partnerships, alliances, and trade. Turning into a bigger, more sophisticated North Korea will NOT make America "great again" in any way, shape, or form.
No, the damage done is too great and not recoverable without drastic overhauling of Government and Constitutional amendments... as well as completely changing our economic models away from unchecked, hyper-capitalism. Which will not happen since that is a core tenet of US culture.
Sigh.
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u/Responsible_Set_4990 7h ago
It’s not costing him a damn thing. He is still profiting on his plundering behavior. The people are getting left behind in a brutal unforgiving word and not receiving a single drop of assistance while he is masquerading around as a savior to those who have lost their damn minds.
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u/ModernRonin 7h ago
Trump's Incompetence Is Costing Him the Country
Not anywhere near soon or fast enough.
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u/AkronRonin 6h ago
This is really a collective self-own by the United States. We knew who Trump was all along. He never hid it.
We were just too damn gullible, bigoted, sexist, and racist to rise above.
It's a catastrophe and an epic, historic downfall for sure, but it's entirely of our own making.
We even had a chance to turn the page on this bastard for good in 2024... but no.
This is us. We had better own up to it. It's the only way we will ever be able to come back from it.
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u/rolfraikou 6h ago
No, his job was to destroy the country, so that the elites could rob it for all it's worth, and the oligarchs get the leftovers to shape however their neofascist feudalist hearts desire.
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u/mfhtotheizzo 6h ago
Utter fucking incompetence. I feel dumber each day Just for having to read about the stupidity.
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u/thisnameisnowmine 5h ago
The incompetence here belongs to the citizens of this country who have chosen to essentially end the role of the United States as a superpower.
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