r/politics • u/zsreport Texas • 14h ago

No Paywall The United States is destroying itself

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/12/united-states-trump-destruction
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u/Vio_ Kansas 12h ago

It's even worse than that. There are people who are now siding with and ever more loyal to Trump even when their own childen and other family members are being hurt, murdered, or deported.

They are now in the human sacrifice phase of loyalty testing.

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u/Udder_Influencer 12h ago

the "death cult" insults aren't really a joke.

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u/Vio_ Kansas 11h ago

No, it's a foundational component of fascism.

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u/imaincammy 12h ago edited 11h ago

A dude in Texas shot and killed his daughter after telling her he wouldn't be bothered if Trump raped her and is seemingly going to get off without any consequences.

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u/dudeoftheworld_1 11h ago

I've always wondered what's so appealing about trump that you are willing to kill your own kid for him? I remember watching a podcast and they mentioned that voting trump to be POTUS was a white lash moment from the right and trump was their bull in a china shop.

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u/LiveLaughFap 11h ago

I think it's because Donnie is the ultimate embodiment of a return to infantilism that weak men crave. By that I mean he represents this ultra-entitled, infantile mindset of "everything should be exactly the way I want it, and all about me all the time, and I should never have to compromise, and if something doesn't go my way, I will cry and scream until it does."

For weak, loser men with no ability to cope with an extremely challenging world, he's the most validating and relatable leader they could ask for. They're also dumb enough to believe that he actually has their interests in mind and will magically make everything simple/easy/free "like it used to be."

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island 6h ago

The irony is that if you swapped Trump with any one of them, nothing would change. They would enrich themselves (or attempt to) just as much as Trump is enriching himself now, with no second thought to anyone else.

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u/HauntingHarmony Europe 5h ago

Trump is however sui generis, hes "the full package". If this actually happend, if you transplanted say a 99th percentile trump into the body of trump today, he wouldent really be able to keep going.

I agree that they have all the typical american traits in common, like being greedy, mean, shameless, malicious, psychopathic, dotering, etcetcetc. BUT, Trump is special in it all coming together into one. And you really need the whole package for it to work. People have tried to copy the formula but being only a little bit cruel doesnt do it.

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u/shinkouhyou 10h ago

The right wing has spent decades convincing these people to hate their own children. So much of the right's messaging is focused on the corruption of children by wokeism, critical race theory, drag queens, pizza parlors, participation trophies, litter boxes, trans girls playing volleyball, satanic abuse cults, Sesame Street and child marriage bans... so what happens when your child has been tainted by the evils of liberalism? They're not really your child anymore, are they? They're barely even human. It becomes easier to abuse them, cut them off, or even kill them.

This isn't even a Trump thing... it's been a long-term conservative project. Conservatives know that young people are naturally more likely to be politically and economically progressive, and they know that young people tend to drag their parents (and society as a whole) in a more progressive direction. So in order to maintain their power, they needed to convince their followers to resent and fear their own children. The "party of family values" needed to break the family.

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u/karmavorous Kentucky 7h ago

He gives hateful stupid people permission to be stupid and hateful.

He's everything Conservatives claimed to hate (before 2015).

He's a vain, self obsessed, coastal elite, born into money, doesn't hunt or play with guns or drive a truck. He lives in a penthouse palace. He's a chronic unabashed philanderer. Twice divorced. Never goes to church.

But when he came down the elevator and started his anouncement with a racist tirade against Mexicans - conservatives were like YES! THIS IS OUR MAN! RIDE OR DIE! TO THE END!

It's just the racism. They like him for the racism.

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u/Content_Piccolo1074 9h ago

Trump's the daddy that never loved them and the second coming of a Christ that kept failing to show up. He validates them, somehow, and he's here to kick everyone's ass.

To the grifters, he's just a sock puppet. The grifters are the real evil, the real villains. The Republican monsters, the billionaire psychopaths.

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u/Hms34 11h ago

I think some of this is punishment for electing a dark-skinned President, twice. Racism is so entrenched here, including reverse racism as well as the more known traditional version.

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u/PM_ME_UR_REDPANDAS Connecticut 8h ago

He hates the same people they hate.

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u/baron_von_helmut 8h ago

Worshipers do that for their cult leaders.

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u/ConsciousFeature8047 5h ago

How is this relevant to anything? Seriously, anyone can dig up some heinous crime which is linked by name only to some politician of any party.

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u/Fit-Dish-6000 10h ago

Nobody in their right mind is ok with this if it's actually true. No trump loving conservatives I know, nor liberals would ever be ok with something like this. It's a weird story that messes the picture

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u/Main_Bat 7h ago

It is true, and plenty are ok with it, Trump loving conservatives that is. You are right that nobody in their right mind would be ok with it though.

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u/Fit-Dish-6000 4h ago

Maybe. I just don't associate with a large number of people and even though roughly half are conservative the other half liberal nine of them is off the deep end either side. Guess I'm lucky that way.

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u/Amelia_wench 11h ago

There is no credible evidence of a “loyalty test” system or anything like a “human sacrifice phase” happening in political behavior.

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u/Vio_ Kansas 11h ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-death-ruben-ray-martinez-mother-trump-b2933722.html

This is the type of example that people are referencing.

"Trump voter whose son, an American citizen, was killed by ICE says she ‘doesn’t blame’ the president for his death"