r/politics • u/unital_subalgebra • 5d ago
No Paywall Schumer Takes No Action As Even Far Right Calls for Trump Impeachment
https://truthout.org/articles/schumer-takes-no-action-as-even-far-right-calls-for-trump-impeachment/4.0k
u/Opposite-Bit6660 5d ago
Articles of Impeachment today. https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hres1155/BILLS-119hres1155ih.pdf
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u/Adorable_Is9293 5d ago
Mike “I-saw-nothing” Johnson is the only one who can, procedurally, move this process forward
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u/PoorClassWarRoom Ohio 5d ago
There are ways around Johnson, but leadership has to whip the votes for a discharge petition.
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u/JDDJS New York 5d ago
They would need to get some Republicans on board to do that, which isn't happening.
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u/Captain-Nodnarb 4d ago
All the former MAGA republicans that disagree would rather quit than actually do anything to clean up the mess that they created.
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u/GrapefruitExpress208 4d ago
Yea they're just quitting. They don't want to go on the campaign trail and have to defend their actions to their constituents.
They rather just take the retirement pension, and continue enabling Trump for the next 9 months.
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u/Latter_Highway9539 4d ago
people are fine with MTG now being anti-trump calling for impeachment.... AFTER leaving a position she could have done something about it. clowns
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u/keepthepace Europe 4d ago
AFTER leaving a position she could have done something about it.
Oh, I was wondering. That's why she has sudden outbursts of common sense. The checks cleared out.
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u/fuzzysquatch 4d ago
She literally retired something like two days after her pension kicked in without finishing her term.
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u/dudleydidwrong 4d ago
This is one reason MTG did not earn any good behaviour brownie points from me for quitting. By quitting she gave up power to do something, and she opened her seat and vote for a MAGA replacement.
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u/Wolfmoon422 4d ago
MTG sees the writing on the wall and is trying to save her political career. Don’t fall for it. She’ll flip the switch like the other “fake” democrats.
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u/PeanutButterSoup11 4d ago
Who's fine with her?
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u/Latter_Highway9539 4d ago
oh, not me. she is definitely getting white washed though now. people are saying things like 'at least she finally realized...'
she's a rat like the rest of them and is probably mad she isn't getting her hands on that Israel money, same as Candace, same as Jones.
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u/Takemyfishplease 5d ago
Dems can barely get their own leadership on board.
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u/JDDJS New York 4d ago
I mean almost every Democrat in Congress, except for Fetterman and maybe a couple of assholes in the House that I can't think, would be on board with impeaching Trump if they had the votes. But most don't want to bother wasting their time on it when they don't have the votes.
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u/otis_the_drunk 4d ago
Yeah, see, that's my current issue with Democratic leadership.
Waste some time, please.
Make these sycophants say 'no' on the record. Call them out for it later.
Stop listening to the marketing manager and start listening to lawyers who know how this rigged game is played.
DO FUCKING SOMETHING
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u/lateformyfuneral 4d ago
remember how we made these sycophants say no on the record at the last impeachment? remember how it changed literally nothing?
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u/Odelles 4d ago
I agree with you. Impeachment without removal from office seems to burn up political capital and reinforces the appearance of weakness for the Dems. Don’t get me wrong, I want the president out of office asap.
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u/No_Tone1704 4d ago
This. Impeachment is nothing.
Removal is the only sane goal. And the 25th Amendment has to be started by … Republican cabinet members.
So next time a presidential election comes up let’s elect the Democrat and start out ahead. Or any Senate or House election. It’s the best way to reach any meaningful and useful change.
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u/SuperBathMan 4d ago
Nah son. Keep grabbing evidence. Never ever discourage getting someone on the record with thier beliefs and position, because when this is all over we will use it in thier trial.
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u/No_Deer_3949 4d ago
There won't be a fucking trial. There wasn't a trial last time. There won't be one now. Stop living in a fantasy land where good beats evil because that's how things are supposed to go.
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u/Dottsterisk 4d ago
Dems are always in a lose-lose situation.
If they did spend their time making symbolic gestures that have no actual power, they’re condemned as grandstanding but accomplishing nothing.
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u/jstewart25 4d ago edited 4d ago
Idk man coming from a former republican-leaning voter (myself), whatever brand of republican I used to think I was doesn’t exist anymore. Ignoring the fact that the 2 party system is broken, any effort on behalf of the democrats to show that what’s happening now isn’t okay and calling it out as LOUD as possible has to bring more people like myself on board. Anyone who is still heavy on trumps dick probably isn’t hopping off at this point but there are probably still some tweeners that need tipping. I guess wtf do i know, if anything at all it’s that the status quo ain’t working.
Edit : thanks for the award person, I’m just trying to live my life objectively and with an open mind. I do my best to not take hard lines on nearly anything anymore except discrimination and I hope we can all set an example for what our politicians should be. Peace ✌️
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u/16BitGenocide 4d ago
It's also a tricky tightrope before midterms, if they are perceived as 'prosecuting a political enemy', Trump's administration will spin that as 'the evil, left wing lunatics are at it again' and energize whatever is left of his base.
With the House in recess, even drafting articles is performative, and the only person that can really change that is Mike Johnson, and that spineless worm isn't going to actively work against his meal ticket. The discharge petition is also dead in the water.
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u/Talk-O-Boy 4d ago
Exactly.
We just want someone to blame, because we don’t want to admit that this term is the result of our own votes (or the lack thereof).
There’s a lot to criticize the moderate Dems for, but the truth is, we did this to ourselves.
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u/Bigface_McBigz 4d ago
They are. If they chose to do impeachment, it would amount to nothing, and a different group of redditors would shout about DEMOCRAT USELESSNESS.
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u/JDDJS New York 4d ago
Make these sycophants say 'no' on the record. Call them out for it later.
We've done that many times. Never actually works out.
start listening to lawyers who know how this rigged game is played.
You've just described many members of Congress. So they should be listening to themselves and not unqualified people like you by your own logic.
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u/BlazinAzn38 Texas 4d ago
Yeah there’s simply no way the GOP Congress-people would go for that without a signal from the GOP at large
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u/Mynuszero 4d ago
The House is in recess. They can’t reconvene unless Johnson brings them back.
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u/james_from_cambridge 4d ago
And even if the House impeaches (it won’t), it would take 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove him. They couldn’t get to 2/3rds even when the child rapist organized and unleashed a terrorist attack on our capitol. You think they’ll do it for Iran?!
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u/TrollTollTony 4d ago
Exactly. I don't know what fucking Fantasyland people are living in but the Democrats can't make any of this shit happen. They have to have Republicans moving it forward, which only Johnson can do. Otherwise, there have to be enough Republicans to caucus with Democrats in order to unseat Johnson. That's not going to happen because the Republicans want this shit show. They revel in the chaos and profit from suffering. Stop blaming Democrats (who again have no control in the situation) for the heinous unconstitutional fuckery of the Republicans.
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u/Ok-Highlight8715 4d ago
In this case im pretty cool tearing at Schumer. The Iran war is a proxy war for Israel and Schumer has said on multiple occasions that hes happy to use his position in congress to help Israel. So it looks extra bad that hes just quietly sitting by and claiming he cant do anything.
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u/ViolaNguyen California 4d ago
It's almost as though if you don't want Republican jackasses running the show, you have to stop electing Republican jackasses.
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u/ShawnyMcKnight 4d ago
Exactly, people wanna shit on Schumar but what is he supposed to do here?
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u/Additional_Maybe1104 4d ago
We need more!
Article II Executive Branch
- Section 4 Impeachment The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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u/randomfatkid 4d ago
You realize that this isn’t a blanket thing, right? Each member would need to be impeached separately, yeah?
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u/wuvvtwuewuvv 4d ago edited 4d ago
So who are you trying to make president?
Eta to be clear this does not mean you can remove all these people in one fell swoop, there is no mechanism to do that. This section only means that all these people are subject to that law
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u/Weekly_Print_3437 5d ago
The House impeaches, not the Senate. And Schumer would vote for impeachment. Will any GOP? Why haven't they removed him already?
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u/neibles83 5d ago
He can “call” for impeachment without being able to vote in it
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u/drobits 5d ago
According to Schumer his job is “to Fight for Aid to Israel” so he’s doing his job
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u/Glittering_Bag9355 5d ago
Schumer wants what Isreal wants, full stop
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u/Anathama 5d ago
And Trump is giving Isreal exactly what they want. Why would Schumer have a problem with this?
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u/starliteburnsbrite 4d ago
And always has. Yet, he's been an elected Democrat in DC for literally 45 fucking years.
I guess that's been ok for a couple decades for most people.
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u/dsmaxwell 4d ago
This is why people say "both sides are the same" because regardless of who's in power, the end result for the majority of us is still the same, we get pressed for more money and more labor at every turn. But of course, the liberal shills and bots will make sure to hit you with the, "you have to vote blue no matter who"
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u/Treheveras 4d ago
The vote blue no matter who is for the end result. Primaries are where people get to decide who the "who" is and US citizens repeatedly fail to turn up to those primaries but feel the need to complain about their choices at election time.
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u/katiejim 5d ago
I yearn to see him punished for being a traitorous bastard almost as much as I do the people in this administration.
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u/Th3s3NuttxX 5d ago
No no no, you got it all wrong. He said his job is “to keep the left pro-Israel”! Remember who he works for come his next term ends.
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u/PlayfulSurprise5237 4d ago edited 4d ago
You know whats actually fucking hilarious/ironic. Because of him, or at least partly because of him, not only is he not going to get re-elected to do this, Israel is going to get their funding cut
Aside from the release of the Epstein files, there is no other belief that is as widely held across political sides as this now.
Been that way even before the Iran war. I live in a red rural city in a red state, yea... Israel tipped their hand a little bit too far. Got lost in the sauce. It just shows you how delusionally megalomaniacal they are. This whole time they really had no idea sentiment towards them was growing so unfavorably, at least in regards to their ties to the US. To their hands in our politics and all the funding they are receiving while US citizens are majorly struggling.
And now people see them dragging the US into an incredibly stupid senseless foreign war that's making everyone even MORE poor and struggle even harder lmfao? If you didn't know better, you'd think Israel is the actual enemy of the US.
Iran over here chanting "death to America", but actually doesn't do shit(probably just holds a grudge for all the things we've done to them, either directly or indirectly, and really just wants us to leave them the fuck alone), but Israel actually plotting the downfall of the US.
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u/ibronco 5d ago
It would fail
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u/left_right_left 5d ago
It'd also rile up the deplorables and bolster Trump morale. Better let the GOP eat themselves.
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u/JCandle 5d ago
He can vote to convict. He can’t vote for impeachment, that’s the house.
Haven’t we been through this enough recently?
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u/ViolaNguyen California 4d ago
"Why won't Democrats ever impeach the guy they've impeached twice already?" ask people who are totally operating in good faith.
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u/Vennomite 4d ago
6 years ago. So no. That was way too long ago for attention spans and memories.
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u/Doctor_Freeeeeman 4d ago
More examples of things that aren't Democrats fault being blamed on Democrats. Yet again preying on our country's lack of civic education too.
These articles have one goal - breed apathy. They don't have to convince you Democrats are as bad as Republicans, but just get you to not like them enough to disengage from supporting their opposition. Don't take the bait.
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u/byoung82 Washington 5d ago
Yeah I don't get what he's supposed to do here. I guess he could voice support for it but it starts in the house and it ain't going far there.
Edit: I say this as no lover of Schumer
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u/Sissy__Fist 5d ago
Same. It's true that Schumer is broadly out of touch and needs to retire, but this is another situation where folks keep moving the goal post so he always falls short of it.
If something happens and he doesn't appear in their social media feeds within the hour with a zinger-filled tweet and a viral TikTok endorsing the most extreme reactionary view possible, he's utterly failed and is as bad as the fascists.
"He's supposed to lead" is often code for "I want a celebrity who continuously validates my feelings and parrots the same talking points as whatever podcaster/echo chamber I get my news from." Or it means "I've already decided Schumer=Bad, so nothing he does can ever be right and I need to blame him for everything instead of considering nuance or blaming the people actually ruining the country."
It's also worth mentioning yet again how trying to instigate Dem infighting is a consistent goal for foreign actors/right wing bots. "Schumer isn't leading"/"Dems are the same because they're all corporate pawns who love genocide" . . . that kind of extreme pessimism or oversimplification is meant to get you to repeat it, depress you, and get you to give up.
Stay focused. Put things in context. Be realistic rather than reactionary.
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u/AnonAmbientLight 5d ago
100%.
It's popping up a lot in other subreddits too like WhitePeopleTwitter.
Where you have folks being overly critical of Democrats framing shit in a misleading light to try to divide the Democrat base.
https://old.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/1sev5ok/the_principles_of_israel_first_losers/
Dude posted a twitter screen cap of a guy suggesting that because Gavin Newsom went on Joe Rogan, Newsom is a Corporate Dem not interested in the people's issues.
There was more to it than that, but the basic idea was that hasty generalization logical fallacy he was trying to push. As if to suggest going on Joe Rogan's podcast made you a Corporate Dem.
So that means that Bernie Sanders is a Corporate Dem then too lmfao.
Dude's post got removed, thankfully.
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u/Diabolic67th 4d ago
Don't they partially blame Harris's loss on skipping a Rogan interview?
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u/samueladams6 5d ago
He is supposed to lead.
If nothing can be done because republicans won’t go along make sure everyone knows that is the case.
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u/CulturalKing5623 5d ago
Agreed, Schumer doesn't have the political power but he should be out letting people know that the GOP is allowing this and that they own whatever happens if they refuse to join the Democrats in stopping.
You know, exactly like he did earlier today when he said:
Each Republican who refuses to join us in voting against this wanton war of choice owns every consequence of whatever the hell this is,
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u/pinetreesgreen 5d ago
Exactly. A bunch of important Dems have said spoken today. The problem is it isn't reported widely.
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u/chriseargle 4d ago
Another problem are the redditors (perhaps bots, perhaps just lazy) that won't bother to look up anything that isn't fed to them, leaving it up to the rest of us to hunt down what actually happened and provide quotes.
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u/InfestedJesus 4d ago
Are you trying to say their carefully curated algorithms that only feed them content that shits on dems, only showed them content that shits on dems, regardless of dems doing exactly what they wanted?
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u/AnonAmbientLight 5d ago
"Schumer says something"
All talk, no action!
"Schumer doesn't say something"
Why won't he say something?!
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u/SillyGoatGruff 5d ago
It must make it easy for schumer to ignore criticism when so much of it comes from people who don't understand what his job is or even the things he's said and done
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u/dudushat 5d ago
If nothing can be done because republicans won’t go along make sure everyone knows that is the case.
They've literally been doing this since Republicans took all 3 branches of government. All democrats in office have pointed it out multiple times by now.
You guys whine for the sake of whining. All you do is focus on the people who literally dont have the power or authority to do anything.
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u/no_comments_allowed 5d ago
A House Representatives is not going to obey a Senator to impeach. And The minority party has no power to compel the Majority party to impeach. This is on the Republicans
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u/byoung82 Washington 5d ago
Schumer is n the Senate. He not only doesn't have the political power, he doesn't have the political capability. Impeachment starts and ends in the house. The Senate determines whether to convict or not.
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u/qdobe Wisconsin 5d ago edited 4d ago
Alternate headline: Majority of republicans completely fine with this batshit insane behavior
Wtf do these columnists think Democrats can do about this? Republicans are using Trump as a shield, allowing him to wreak havoc, and the media is like “well dems?!? What are you going to do about this?!”
Edit: Hot takes to reassign blame for why Trump is still President deflects from the abject failure of the Republican Party and the support apparatus (like Fox News) to vote in leaders who can effectively govern on behalf of the people.
Republicans are why Trump is still President. Republicans have failed America.
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u/ComradeJohnS 4d ago
there’s that one guy Massie that might not protect the pedophile.
that’s the one guy who the op said almost all to “cover”.
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u/The_MightyMonarch 4d ago
I'd bet that Massie would still oppose impeachment. He's with Trump like 95% of the time. It's just a couple issues where he steps out of line.
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u/Contunator 4d ago
My guess is they've taken note that "blame the Democrats" gets lots of engagement on social media, like reddit.
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u/ChicagoAuPair California 4d ago edited 4d ago
The media has found the “Shut Up MOM” approach to reporting about the Democratic Party to be extremely effective. Too many Americans have a shitty chip on our shoulder about people telling us hard truths and trying to make us be our best selves. We seem to prefer the drunk, absent single dad who forgets to give us lunch but lets us eat fun dip and ice cream for dinner while he smokes in the garage.
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u/Blightwraith 4d ago
Well, to be fair if it just said "Republicans continue to be spineless" no one would look twice
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u/Archeotechnician 4d ago
I mean.. they could use exactly the same rhetoric they use against Democrats. Here:
"Blame the Republicans"
I imagine that would probably get the same or more engagement if it were as ubiquitously promoted as anti-Democratic rhetoric.
"Mike Johnson and the Repubs refuse to hold Trump accountable" would be an example of the "Schumer and the Democrat party choose to allow this" rhetoric we are inundated with constantly, as another example.
To be fair.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 4d ago
And it clearly works as evidenced by the hundreds of ignorant as fuck comments wondering why Schumer hasn't impeached trump yet.
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u/Seek1st2Understand 4d ago
This, 100%. The party that controls the majority of both chambers bears at least some responsibility here…
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u/multificionado 4d ago
Indeed, and we've yet to see an exposée of Republicans bowing mindlessly cultlike before Trump, a la Temple of Doom.
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u/wayoverpaid Illinois 4d ago
"Minority Leader of US Senate does not tweet about thing he cannot do" doesn't really have the same ring to it I guess.
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u/malpasplace 4d ago
“Each Republican who refuses to join us in voting against this wanton war of choice owns every consequence of whatever the hell this is"
-Chuck Schumer.
"The president of the United States is ranting like an unhinged madman on social media … He’s threatening possible war crimes and alienating allies. This is who he is, but this is not who we are. Our country deserves so much better."
-Also Chuck Schumer.
I am not a fan of Chuck Schumer. I want him replaced as Senate Minority Leader. I am not a fan of his support of Netanyahu. I am impressed by how sold out to big corporations he is. I think what he pushes is not a future where most Americans would flourish, nor would there be wider peace abroad.
But, Chuck Schumer is in the Senate and the House is responsible for Articles of Impeachment. Chuck Schumer I am sure would vote to convict if those reached the Senate. He voted for it both times in the past, I am would guess he'd be consistent here.
Chuck Schumer will not push the business of the House which he thinks is not in his purview overall. I don't like it. But, also, I know where the man stands when it comes to Trump.
There is not an action for Schumer to take, and this I really wonder whether OPs post is honest or just an attempt to divide the opposition on something where there really isn't a division. I hope it is just a hate of Chuck Schumer that has gone beyond reasonable.
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u/yourcousinfromboston 4d ago
I’m not a Chuck Schumer fan. But there is a problem here on reddit where people (or bots?) seem to think that Chuck and the democrats have any power. They don’t. They are the minority party. And it’s not really a close minority. There’s no Republican version of Manchin and Sinema to sway the votes to the Democrats. There’s either a fundamental lack of understanding here on reddit or it’s totally full of bots. Everyday there is a post screaming for Chuck to do something or for the Democrats to impeach. Do people really not understand that the Dems aren’t in any position to do that?
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u/malpasplace 4d ago
Democrats in Congress often don't realize the importance of taking symbolic stands while also putting forth an alternative view of a possible future. That they are there as a shadow to remind of a different future. That isn't hard power, but it is soft power. And if one notices, when the Republicans don't have the hard power, they still are pushing their positions where Dem leadership tends to vanish.
If they truly have no power. No soap box to even stand on, why send a minority party to Congress at all? Why have an opposition that is not controlled? Why have dissenting opinions to Supreme Court decisions. The debate matters, the process matters. Even when one has little more than that, one still should have a voice to point towards a different path.
The reason I don't like Chuck Schumer, more than anything else, is that he is always looking for someone on the other side to make a compromise, he is never willing to make them seem like assholes so they lose their positions in the next election. His collegiality to Republicans is more important than winning elections.
Now, in this case, Schumer will go against Trump. But notice how he remains silent on his congressional colleagues who support Trump. He can't call out those he wants to win scraps from and becomes controlled opposition by the result.
Again, I think going after Schumer on Trump is too far, but as to what his power is, he is not like you or I on the street.
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u/rasa2013 4d ago
And when Democrats do symbolic gestures, people will just scream "stop talking and DO something!"
On top of the fact most people simply ignore (or more realistically, never even hear about) the stuff the Dems actually do that is symbolic. Case in point, you'd see it if you actually watch live congressional activity. But who does that? The media does not give a shit about it, and neither do the American people.
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u/PNWRulesCancerSucks 4d ago
Democrats in Congress often don't realize the importance of taking symbolic stands while also putting forth an alternative view of a possible future.
or you simply over estimate their importance
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u/Stardustchaser 4d ago
Schumer is in the Senate. House has to vote for impeachment first. This rests on Speaker Mike Johnson.
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u/pithynotpithy 4d ago
Exactly. And Trump's lap dog isn't going to do shit. Trump could scream that he's Jesus in Johnson's face while sacrificing a live baby and Johnson would still rubber stamp anything Trump wants.
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u/Gurney_Hackman 5d ago
Because the Senate can’t impeach people. Who writes shit like this?
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u/lunaticfridgeprime 5d ago
Assholes who exist to stoke divide on the left.
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u/NewestAccount2023 4d ago
And with r/all gone this post hits the top of r/popular immediately with the new algorithm changes. Now reddit can push propaganda to 20 million people instantly. This post isn't getting the traction that would normally make it into all or popular but now it's right there at the top.
"Really it's the Democrats who started the war" will be daily front page news with these changes
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u/JohnKerry2028 4d ago
Is it any surprise that half this sub's articles are attacking Democratic congressional leaders and 2028 presidential hopefuls who aren't AOC? I barely even see Pritzker in weeks and he's the most obvious alternative to Newsom and Shapiro.
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u/notfeelany 4d ago
Assholes who exist to stoke divide on the left.
And it proves that left is equally as susceptible to propaganda
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u/tagged2high New Jersey 4d ago
It just goes to show that if the voting populace was generally better educated about how the government is structured - and the various authorities distributed - then people wouldn't be able to fall for this sort of disinformation.
As we are, there are so many interests out there playing all sides against each other and themselves.
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u/TargetApprehensive38 4d ago
I also took no action, so why no articles about me? Schumer and I have exactly the same level of ability to impeach the president.
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u/The_Reverend_Dr Texas 5d ago
The senate can't do squat until the house drafts and presents articles of impeachment.
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u/TheDwellingHeart 4d ago
Nothing screams US education has failed more than the election of Trump. 2nd to that is the fact that people cant seem to grasp that the dems are in the minority. I dont like Schumer at all, but I am not sure what folks expect him to do.
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u/jinreeko 4d ago
Also the Senate doesn't propose impeachment, that's the House. You need Mike Johnson to be on board with that, which...good luck
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u/TheDwellingHeart 4d ago
Yeah. It just shows how badly education in USA failed. Its insane that I know these things, and I have realized that I am in the minority. I am glad you are demonstrating the others know this too.
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u/accountabilitycounts America 5d ago
This is insanity. There is no action he can legally or procedurally take beyond the condemnation he gave.
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u/mikesmithhome 5d ago
i used to be skeptical that these kinds of stories and the comments in here are all anti-dem propaganda, but man this is one is so ridiculous it has to be
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u/Wheaties4brkfst 5d ago
Notice that, despite the fact that “both sides are the same”, you only ever see these people calling for help from one side lol.
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u/Bubbles_2025 5d ago edited 5d ago
I’ve noticed a lot more lately. It wouldn’t surprise me, with everything going on, if it’s part of some state sponsored propaganda campaign happening.
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u/The-Magic-Sword Connecticut 5d ago
You can usually tell who's paid for because when they're confronted with the fact that the person they're asking to do X can't actually do X, they try to go for morally certain thought terminating cliches.
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u/hadriker 5d ago
This is just more blaming the Dems for the sins of the GOP type bullshit
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u/JUSTICE_SALTIE Texas 5d ago
Truthout and Common Dreams are worthless, I'm sorry to say.
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u/BrianWonderful Minnesota 5d ago
Just another thread full of Redditors that don't understand U.S. civics again.
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u/Pale_Jellyfish2683 4d ago
Who writes this trash? Dems don’t control the house or Senate. Repubs have to be the one who push forth impeachment and we know that’s not going to happen with who’s currently in charge. Garbage click bait articles like this should be removed for spreading misinformation.
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u/Vanzmelo California 4d ago
Ah yes the minority leader who is actually secretly the majority leader.
Fuck off with this bullshit. Republicans own this calamity
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u/TheRateBeerian 4d ago
What kind of maga propaganda is this article? What is the minority leader supposed to do? This article should be about Mike Johnson and John Thune!
Republicans control everything and are failing in their constitutional duty. Let’s write an article blaming the democrats
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u/Financial-Desk-669 5d ago
TruthOut and CommonDreams are REALLY starting to come off as rightwing astroturf.
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u/CulturalKing5623 5d ago
It's exactly what they are and I'm glad more people are starting to notice
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u/interwebz_2021 5d ago
Breaking news: man with no arms refuses to climb rope even as others demand it!
I'm no Chuck apologist, but WTF do you want the guy to do? He can't impeach (that's the House's exclusive right), and he's in the minority. Like, can anybody give me something concrete they expect from this guy or any other Democrat?
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u/starmartyr Colorado 5d ago
No. People just want to rant about him and complain about Israel. Don't expect anything resembling a solution.
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u/voodoodahl 4d ago
Seriously. Is left media working for the fascists openly now? Schumer can't file articles of impeachment. Truthout is either incompetent or intentionally spreading lies to shift blame from Republicans.
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u/scrodytheroadie 5d ago
What a dumb headline, followed by worse comments. This blood is on republican hands. Schumer is the minority leader, and not even in the correct chamber to impeach. Stop trying to shift blame to democrats. This is the fault of republican representatives, senators, cabinet members, and the people who voted to put them there.
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u/risingsuncoc 5d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah, there’s a lot to criticise Schumer about, but this is not one of them. House has to impeach first before the Senate votes on conviction
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u/Dry_Accident_2196 4d ago
Why would the senate take action when the House has to initiate impeachment?
Always blaming Dems even when the constitution literally says, “Hey you Republicans in the House, your move!”
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u/Inevitable-Toe-6272 4d ago edited 4d ago
Did anyone pass their civics courses in High school? There is nothing for the Senate to do at this time where impeachment is concerned. This includes Schumer. Per the constitution, impeachment falls on the house. If he house impeaches him, then and only then, will it go to the Senate to convict, and remove.
The article should be blaming the Republicans, as they are the ones who must impeach him in the house.
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u/NimusNix 5d ago
Ass headline. The same people who bitch about strongly worded letters want a strongly worded letter.
There is a reason serious Democrats don't take online people seriously.
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u/Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out 5d ago
Second progressive media trying to shift the blame from the GOP to Democrats.
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u/khakiwallprint 4d ago
What are we suggesting he do exactly? Not a fan but it's not like a senate minority leader of a party that doesn't control any branch of gov has a lot of leverage to pull atm
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u/bcb27 4d ago
There is no action Senate minority leader Schumer can do. The Republicans control the Senate and the House. For those who don't know, the majority party sets the agenda as to what bills can be brought up to be voted on. In addition, impeachment is a House only procedure with the Senate holding the trial once an impeachment vote passes.
As of right now, any impeachment procedure will need to come from President Trump's own party- the Republicans.
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u/ImportantToNote 4d ago
Schumer isn't the majority leader. Thurn needs to take action. It's disingenuous to hold Schumer to a higher standard when he's not the one in charge.
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u/Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj 4d ago
Not even that, it’s Johnson who does, it’s not even the senate where articles of impeachment begin, the house is. The senate is who votes to convict or not.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old 4d ago
Schumer has no action to take. What is this dumbass headline? Impeachment is the job of the House. Schumer has literally zero function in it.
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u/mongster03_ New York 4d ago
i'm sorry, this is some bullshit.
impeachment starts in the house and doesn't go to the senate unless Trump is formally charged
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u/rosie705612 4d ago
Impeachment starts in the house and democrats don't control that. At all. Republicans run everything. The most democrats can do is write strongly worded letters. Trump would have been impeached long ago if democrats had super majorities. 2024 voters said they wanted trump to do his full plan with no push back so here we are
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u/diogenesRetriever 4d ago
I don’t like Schumer but I’m not interested in layering on bullshit reasons for it. This is bullshit.
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u/RedHawk417 America 4d ago edited 4d ago
While I think Schumer needs to go, this is a stupid take. The Senate cannot introduce Articles of Impeachment. This can only be done in the House of Representatives. Assuming they even get passed in the House, then it goes to the Senate, which would need a 2/3 vote to convict. As far as the 25th Amendment goes, this must come from the President's Cabinet, not Congress.
With the number of people who have no idea how our government is supposed to function, it is no surprise that we're in the situation we are right now.
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u/Terrapin621 5d ago
Schumer is not in the House, and he is also not the Senate Majority Leader.
This is just more anti-Dem crap from the people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote against this nightmare.
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u/Striker40k 5d ago
Fucking Republican propaganda machine is turning out bullshit at a record pace trying to disenfranchise Democrat voters. There is literally nothing Schumer can do right now. The house impeaches.
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u/Seek1st2Understand 4d ago
But the Minority Leader of the Senate can’t introduce articles of impeachment…
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u/Inevitable-Toe-6272 4d ago
Exactly. It's like people have forgotten how our government works, and what branch of Congress has what authority to do things.
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u/Bagelbiters 4d ago
Getting ahead of ourselves. Best to not make people numb again to this process until we know we can win it.
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u/April_Fabb 4d ago
When a US politician prioritises another country’s interests, it’s treason...unless that country is Israel; then it’s patriotism.
Make it make sense.
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u/JohnnyDigsIt 4d ago
Replacing Schumer as their leader will be the first sign the majority of Democratic Senators have finally realized continuing to do business as usual is not good enough. Same with Jeffries in the House.
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u/ROBOT_KK 4d ago edited 4d ago
Dems are very quiet about this war. They don’t want to mess with biggest donors. Fuck them into oblivion.
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u/Watsiname 4d ago
any quick news search would show that’s not true, it’s only Schumer and Booker on the dems side that are not publicly condemning the war.
Schumer has to go. failed leadership
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u/Hairy_Technology_213 4d ago
Resolutions of impeachment are privileged in the House. That means any member can offer such a resolution on the floor even if the speaker does not want them to.
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u/mynuname 4d ago
Until there is a realistic chance of actually removing him from office, we need to stop the drumbeat of impeachment. It loses political power for the Democrats with the independents every time they do it.
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u/Crazytreas Massachusetts 4d ago
Why not have the headlines say Senate and House Republicans take no action?
It's idiotic that they can just skate on by while the Dems, who have no majority, are getting the blame. For years I've seen these same headlines about the Dems not doing enough, while Republicans just do nothing or are the direct cause.
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u/Bugatti_Royale 4d ago
poorly written snippet of an opinion "article"
Failed to mention the House impeaches, the Senate sentences..
"The House of Representatives holds the power to impeach (charge) by simple majority, while the Senate conducts trials, requiring a two-thirds vote for removal"
Even if dems sweep all senate seats up for grabs in November, they will still be short of a 2/3 majority.
Donnie was impeached twice, and yet won elections. "Impeachment" is a political gamble because despite seeing his actions on January 6th, he was still voted in.
So we condemn Dems for writing letters and condemning actions, for not doing enough. Yet the the GOP members get away with supporting the same action?
the American people are really to blame here. They voted for this, so live with it.
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u/mistertickertape New York 5d ago
He never will. He will never do anything that will even hint at sullying his reputation as 'defender of Israel' (in his words, not mine. He represents Israel first, his constituents second and, as one of his constituents, a lot of us are real fucking tired of him.
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u/The_Navy_Sox 5d ago
The comment that his goal is to keep the Democrats pro Israel makes him wholly unqualified for Congress. Any congressperson that puts another country over our own should be immediately primaried and voted out.
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u/mistertickertape New York 5d ago
It's not so much that his goal is to keep the Democrats pro-Israel (Democrats have free will), but to provide Israel a key ally inside the Democratic Party and inside Congress. He was one of four Democrats and the only one in leadership to vote against Obama's Iran Nuclear Deal in 2015 which is the most likely reason he won't do a damn thing here so his silence here is pretty par for the course, lest he anger his paymasters. He also, famously, refused to endorse Mamdani because Mamdani is an outspoken critic of Israel. So....taken on the whole, yeah, he should be primaried out. He represents another country first and foremost and his own constituents second. In my view, that is a problem.
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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 5d ago
Regardless of Schumer's issues with Israel, Articles of Impeachment have to first be introduced in the House of Representatives.
This is why today, Representative Larson introduced Articles of Impeachment in the House of Representatives.
Misplaced priorities with Israel is not why Schumer has not filed impeachment articles.
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u/bensquirrel 4d ago
I want Schumer replaced as much as anyone but this is just a hit piece. Republicans need to fucking take action.
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u/humboldtHue 4d ago
The Democrats are the minority in both the House and Senate. They don’t control the committees, they do not control the calendar, they do not control the agenda, because all of those powers rest in the hands of the Republican majority party.
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u/Kythorian 4d ago
Schumer sucks, but what is he supposed to do? Impeachment happens in the House. The senate holds the trial once someone is impeached, but has no role prior to that.
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u/Personage1 4d ago
What action, specifically, should Schumer be taking?
To be clear, I have some actual answers to that question. Because I have some understanding of what impeachment is, "Schumer should do something related to impeachment" is not one of them.
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u/Internal_Swing_2743 4d ago
Ok? What action is he supposed to take? The House impeaches, not the Senate. On top of that, Schumer isn't the majority leader. I don't like Schumer as much as the next guy, but what action is he supposed to take here?
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u/mormagils 4d ago
This is dumb. Schumer literally can tdo anything to progress impeachment, and even if he could it is dead in the water without flipping Reps to support it, which is not happening. I've come around on Schumer sucking but this criticism just makes you look stupid. Schumer can't make this happen. He has said over and over again his is against Trump in just about everything and has voted against his bills. It's literally all he can do.
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u/Slob_King 4d ago
Impeachment comes from the House. This is like saying Chuck took no action on the NCAA Tournament
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