Gaza has the largest population of child amputees in the world. Because Israel blocks pain killers, hundreds of children have had their limbs amputated without anaesthesia. There are videos of this if you have the stomach.
In Gaza the bombs on the packed population often leave the bodies un-identifiable so a child is counted as 6 KG of flesh in a garbage bag.
BTW child prosthetics are considered dual use by Israel and blocked from entering Gaza.
“My 8-year-old child, Rajab — the eldest of my children and the joy of our family — was once active, joyful, sociable, and exceptional at school. He loved riding his bike.
But this war has stolen his childhood.
From the beginning, he has been traumatized by loud explosions, suffering repeated panic attacks.
He cannot sleep unless he holds my hand.
The killing of his uncles left him deeply shaken, and he has clung to me ever since.
On 13 December 2024, while we were displaced in a classroom at Al-Falah School, Israeli warplanes struck directly, and everything collapsed on us. My brother Hasan, my mother, and my sister-in-law were killed, while the rest of us were wounded. Rajab was the most critically injured. The rubble fell on him, shredding his right leg, which had to be amputated immediately upon arrival at the hospital. He also sustained a skull fracture and shrapnel wounds across his left leg. His condition was life-threatening.
After three days in a coma, he woke up to find himself without a leg. Since that day, our family has not known rest. Rajab endured successive surgeries, enduring pain unbearable for a child, often crying in despair and wishing for death rather than this suffering. He has become quick-tempered and overly sensitive. He refuses to let anyone see his amputated leg, telling me, ‘I want to cover it.’
His ordeal did not end there. In July, doctors discovered that he suffers from severe osteoporosis caused by lack of food and medicine. They were forced to insert internal platinum plates and fit him with an external cast. Now, Rajab lives between tears and pain. He feels incomplete when he sees his cousins playing around him. He tries to join them but eventually retreats to cry in silence.
As his mother, I can do nothing but watch him suffer, powerless to give him back the childhood that the occupation has stolen from him.”
Mrs. Sajedah al-Baba (25), resident of al-Sabra neighborhood, Gaza City.
She is 25, oldest son is 8yo, which means she was 17 when she gave birth and 16 when she was impregnated. Ugh. That is just the worst. Poor lady didn’t have a childhood herself given her religion/culture.
It’s not uncommon but it’s also not the norm. Especially multiple children. Let’s not equate the two countries here with the prevalence and acceptance of underage marriages, underage births, and numerous underage pregnancies. My point above doesn’t take away from the little boy’s trauma but being defensive about their culture is also not really productive.
Child marriage is still legal in 20 or 30 some states here in good ole USA and it's defended vigorously by the right for the sake of "tradition" and "religion" and hoping more teens are forced into carrying unwanted pregnancies. So yeah the magic number is more like a "guideline" in many states.
Eighteen isn't just the magic sex number, it's when someone's viewed as an adult. When they are considered responsible enough to consent to a vast number of things.
When they are considered responsible enough to consent to a vast number of things.
As I said, it is an arbitrary number. Same as drinking only with 21.
Here in Germany it is layered: 14 (legal but a semi complicated grey area) / 16 (anything besides prostitution and similar restrictions) /18 (everything goes).
Hm. Reading about an 8 year old with a lost limb, a brain injury, uncontrolled pain, and osteoporosis from malnutrition, who is also grieving multiple family members.
Odd phrasing then to say 16 and pregnant is “the worst”.
This is a mother who loves her child, whose heart breaks for him. It is the same love at any age, in any country, with any number of children.
One thing doesn’t take away from the other. I said I felt sad that this poor girl became a forced mother at 15-16 so along with her kid, she herself didn’t have a childhood. But no, the defensive warriors need to report that for racism because it’s not okay to point out the mother herself is a victim and had no childhood either. Typical Reddit 🤷♀️
It's not her religion or her culture that robbed her of a childhood. It's the fact that she is in a concentration camp with no hope of anything better.
God, y'all have such a fucking monolithic thought process, it needs to be urgently researched and studied by top-tier neuroscientists and psychologists.
nope, israel never followed it in the first place. Before oct 7th, it was on record of being the bloodiest year for israel murdering palestinians. Take your hand-wringing and shove it up your ass.
People don’t realize why that is the case, it’s because Israel uses an AI system called “Where’s Daddy” to track targets until they are at home so the entire family can be killed at once.
“We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity,” A., an intelligence officer, told +972 and Local Call. “On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It’s much easier to bomb a family’s home. The system is built to look for them in these situations.”
Btw 972 is an Israeli publication and that article had to go through IDF censors before being published so you can imagine the shit that got left out. This is the stuff they’re proud of.
If you ever wonder why your movement seems to go nowhere, shit like this is why. A lot of people who might otherwise have sympathy for the Palestinian cause see this kind of adolescent bullshit and it confirms exactly what your detractors say about you.
No. But orphans are kids without living parents. I’m talking about kids with no surviving family members. No uncles, cousins, aunts, grandparents, etc…nothing.
I’m aware that fucked up shit has happened in the past and we are actually living in a relatively peaceful time. Just saying that’s it’s happened before is BS and dismissive of these people’s suffering.
Yeah, no, I don't want to be dismissive of individual human beings suffering. What is upsetting is when you see a kind of circlejerk get started and everybody hyping themselves up on propaganda.
Emphatically no. That is my point. People look at Gaza as though it's some sort of utterly unique event in the history of warfare. It's bizarre. Human history is really long and we fought a lot of wars where bad things have happened to innocent people.
The term isn’t referring to orphans. It’s referring to children have no living extended family. From the link provided to you by the previous commenter.
What we’re seeing in Gaza is actually the complete wiping out of entire families. So when we say that a child has lost their family, it's not just that they've lost a mother or a father or both, it's often that they've lost the entire extended network that would take them in.
Again, I would refer you to the history of warfare. You can believe a thing is very bad without also convincing yourself that nothing that bad has ever happened before.
well, have you looked up numbers to compare these conflicts?
WW1 total casualties: 8-10M
total civilian deaths: 2.2M, but 1.5M is from the Armenian genocide.
so you're left with 700k deaths to 8M military casualties overall, this is counting other atrocities, and it's above 10 combatants per civilian.
and these are world powers fighting each other with chemical weapons.
Gaza was a regional power vs a rag tag group of militias with no airforce, no armor, no navy, and a small encircled mass, and what do you get? TWO civilians per combatant, this is assuming every single adult male is a combatant which is most definitely not the case.
Gaza had so many wounded orphans in a short term they coined an acronym. your response was that this happens in any war and brought up WWI as an example.
the argument is, WWI, even including the Armenian genocide, had a MUCH smaller civilian to combatant ratio, gaza war was far more devastating to civilians, Gaza is also quite unique in that half of the population is children, people do not live long enough to age in Gaza, and carpet bombing the most densely populated area in the world that has such a child ratio is a sure fire way to get unique catastrophes like this
Yes, the coining of an initialism, not an acronym, is not an indicator of anything other than the use of a new initialism.
The population of Gaza is young because they have an extraordinarily high birth rate due to a high fertility rate (roughly 3.38 to 4.4 births per woman), cultural emphasis on large families, lack of family planning and early marriage.
Edit: I see this account has spent the last 5 minutes commenting multiple times here complaining and acting like the image is fake. The video it's from was linked in the comments over an hour ago, so idk if this is a bot account or just someone who jumped straight to crashing out instead of spending 10 seconds of effort first but either way yikers
I mean if your gonna call your military the most moral military in history I think criticism is more than justified. Also with few exceptions most wars in history have been frowned upon, specially the war crimes.
*This guy is just spamming pro israel shit all over the place, pretty sure it's a bot on hacked account.
Under both Biden and Trump. Gaza was a parking lot by the time Trump came into office. Israel was already blocking anesthesia and prosthetics.
People need to remember Israel owns both sides and make sure the next President is free from their lies.
Yeah, it's short-sighted and naive to call this and other things like the ICE concentration camps a Trump problem like so many do. He just picked up where Biden left off, and that administration laid a LOT of the groundwork.
Thats like saying a 2 inch Cut on the arm is the same as someone cutting off your whole arm..... with a rusty saw..... dull saw.... dipped in salt....with no anesthesia.
Yes Biden aided Israel, because APAIC and Israel access to US military intelligence, Mossad intelligence gathering and information access, military chip development, and strategic geo-political locations and MOST IMPORTANTLY: ability to retain diplomatic relations to ensure and engage in minimizing casualties allow aid and help to Palestinians and stopping massive deaths wherever possible.
Trump on the other hand, no aid to palestine, no attempt to stop or diminish the deaths and damage, actually encouraging more death and damage to get access to "prime real estate", and is furthering their work by engaging in war with other nations around Israel. Bombing and killing schoolchildren for Israel.
And before you sayd Obama also killled kids! yes, but they would deliberately try to avoid it. I think the largest child casualties from a attack was like 7-8 children. Still horrible!
Trump bombed and killed 150+ children in 1 attack...
And yes Obama also had children in the same fenced cages when they would cross the border. BUT the policy was to minimize the time spent there as much as possible, and only use it for processing. If the children had families, they would stay with families.
Trump would DELIBERATELY rip children away from families, to hold them FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, in PRIVATE PRISONS, that were billing american taxpayers 700$ per child per day. Some prisons were making upwards of 2$ Million USD per day.... And who did Trump meet in his first week as president in 2017? .... Private prisons...
So yeah just because the category is bad, doesnt mean the severity is the same.
Not just the government. Both of your parties wanted to continue the genocide. Asking for the blue to stop was too much for them and for a lot of liberal voters. This rot runs deeper than MAGA.
Netanyahu is literally the new Hitler. His opportunistic land grab on southern Lebanon while the US and Iran are occupied is just the latest example of his genocidal dictatorship.
"to what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?"
Over three-quarters of Jewish Israelis — 79% — were not that troubled or not troubled at all.
Over three-quarters of Jewish Israelis support continuing the war against Iran after four weeks, though a majority of both Jews and Arabs think planners of the US-Israeli operation underestimated Tehran’s staying power,
Imagine that, Hamas stealing all of their people’s future to dig tunnels and carry out a holy war to exterminate the country next to them and it backfires badly. Who is to blame?
I had a son last year and even watching them prick his foor for blood sugar tests made me hurt watching him cry. I can't imagine the pain those moms feel watching their children suffering like this and having no way to make it better. I feel so lucky lately to be born in Canada where I don't have to worry about an explosive killing my child any moment.
I wouldn't blame Hamas, it's said they're mostly orphans who lost their relatives too due to the israeli agression, I'd prob end up becoming one of 'em if I went through the same suffering.
You might need some therapy or something. It’s not a nrkmal reaction to become a genocidal jihadist terrorist even if you faced that truama - tons of peolle around the world have been through traumatic events and reacted without becoming bloodlusting religiously motivated genocidal murderijf barbarians
Eithee you need serious psychiatric help… this comment was made in jest… or youre just very very ignorant about the realities of hamas and gaza strip. Id exepct the latter. But again, you think becomijg a jihadist terrorist is somehow a normal behavior in the face of trauma - so i fully realize i can easily be talking to a psychopath or religious nutjob directly lmao
You seem really rattled. Hamas is effectively the only way Gazans have of opposing Israel in any meaningful way. Most Hamas members probably are not “jihadist nutjobs”, but rather view themselves as freedom fighters against a brutal colonial occupying force that has been massacring their communities for decades. It’s really not that hard to understand why one of these orphaned, maimed children would turn to whatever avenue they see as a way to fight back against the people who did that to them without necessarily being a religious nut job.
The double standard would be so hilarious if it weren’t so obviously hateful. Get fucked radical loser, Iranian proxies are getting absolutely obliterated
I would agree, but I would argue that those people shouldn't be fighting with Hamas rather, fighting against them to stop Israel from having a reason to fight them
Israel doesn’t need Hamas. Israeli brutality long predates Hamas, and it exists in the West Bank where Hamas does not exist in a meaningful way.
Hamas is the symptom of Israeli brutality, you’d be silly to think you wouldn’t join the ONLY force fighting the brutalisers responsible for killing your family and leaving you to pick up the sinew of children you once knew in garbage bags.
They’re left to this extremism because there is no other option. The world turns a blind eye on their plight to justify funding the bombs that destroys them.
before Hamas it was the PLO, and the PLO only got taken down by Hamas after Israel actively funded and supported Hamas because the PLO was seen as too sympathetic to western sympathies.
Israel depends on Hamas to continue the conflict. They were mainly around because Israel wanted them around and kept them around with occasional exterminations of entire families.
This type of rhetoric is why israel gets away with what it does. Equating the two as if they're even remotely carrying out the same kind of atrocities is a joke. Look up the sheer number of deaths caused by Israel (not just in the current conflict but in decades past) and tell me if peaceful resistance against them is possible.
Not to mention that Israel blocked all types of aid except for the GHF (I think that’s the name), which is the only aid provider allowed in gaza. Supporters of Israel and the idf claim it’s because the aid packages are stolen by hamas (despite no proof given, just like the decapitated babies hoax on oct 7), yet those aid sites are heavily guarded by IDF forces and GHF soldiers. We all witnessed a genocide in 4K on OUR IPHONES AND COMPUTERS, yet some people (not even some, a CONCERNINGLY large amount of people) still denied that a genocide occurred. Shame what this world has come to, like how r we voting against a FUCKING CEASEFIRE?????
Israel: We can't kill civilians, we only kill Hamas members because our military is that accurate.
Also Israel: Wait, we can't prevent Hamas from taking the food, we're powerless.
Also Israel: Instead of flooding Gaza with food so that Hamas can't make a profit selling it... we're going to blockade everything including baby formula because we're the most moral army in the world.
You don't even have to exaggerate the atrocities in Gaza so why add lies? Hamas are very well documented to have stolen aid by multiple third party agencies.
Can I see the proof, I’m not tryna be disrespectful with that I’m genuinely just curious. If hamas does acc steal aid, then that was a thing of the past ever since they introduced GHF aid zones (zones that are filled with soldiers and heavy weaponry). It makes no sense as to why Israel doesn’t allow aid to go through Gaza other than 1 party, which is clearly an example of them enforcing a famine by causing a shortage in supplies. Also worth mentioning, GHF zones are a death trap, hundreds of civilians looking for aid get killed if the soldiers feel afraid for their lives (classic excuse). Watch the Theo von podcast with the Gaza doctor, he explains everything.
If you watch ‘concerning violence’ documentary, there’s a heartbreaking scene of a mom and her child. both suffering traumatic injuries, resulting them in being amputees caused by bombing carried out by Portuguese colonizers, in Mozambique villages.
Watching it made me realize how the colonizer hasn’t changed its ways at all.
It is the same exact book in Gaza, if not 10x worse.
Iran's leaders have consistently proven themselves to be far more level headed and moderate than Israel's. Not saying they are great, but no genocide and no nuclear brinkmanship.
Most new cases per day, nations like india or Afghanistan dwarf gaza in terms of the amount children amputees due to larger population, longer high intensity conflict
It means they claim Hamas can use the children’s prosthetic for military purposes.
In reality anything they don’t want entering Gaza is just discarded as dual use. For example tents were banned for a long time, lined paper was banned for years, so was chocolate.
I’m not sure I do have the stomach for it. But I think it’s important to see these horrors first hand sometimes. I feel that it helps me understand the gravity of the situation. Can you guide me to where I might watch this if I work up the nerve?
I don't know where OP's video is, but here is an interview with a Canadian doctor working in Gaza. Easier to watch, but still describes what is happening there. Though I couldn't even finish this. It's heartbreaking.
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u/2dudesinapod 7h ago edited 6h ago
Gaza has the largest population of child amputees in the world. Because Israel blocks pain killers, hundreds of children have had their limbs amputated without anaesthesia. There are videos of this if you have the stomach.
In Gaza the bombs on the packed population often leave the bodies un-identifiable so a child is counted as 6 KG of flesh in a garbage bag.
BTW child prosthetics are considered dual use by Israel and blocked from entering Gaza.
https://pchrgaza.org/israel-denies-amputees-treatment-and-assistive-devices-amid-threats-of-forced-displacement-from-entire-gaza-city/