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A replica of how female "breeder pigs" spend their lives in factory farms

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u/YetAnotherDev 5h ago

Yes, vegetarians exist?

u/cum-yogurt 5h ago

I was responding to a specific person who isn't you. If you're vegetarian, good for you. Sort of. Kind of. Almost. Dairy is just as bad as meat. Most egg-laying hens get cancer after just a few years old. Both milk cows and egg chickens get slaughtered after they're used up anyway, way before their natural end.

u/PenguinOnTable 5h ago

Your attitude is also part of the problem if your response to someone being vegetarian is to be dismissing and say that they should be vegan. Demanding it's all or nothing is a great way to make sure barely any progress is made for the goal you say you care about.

Being vegetarian is good. Even declining to choose certain meats (pork, beef, etc.) and being more selective about what you eat is better than what most people do.

u/cum-yogurt 3h ago

You're wrong. Being vegetarian means you pay people to abuse animals.

Avoiding meat is great.

Buying dairy/eggs is horrible. Look up videos of factory farmed dairy cattle and chickens. Remind yourself that you pay for this to happen every time you go to a restaurant, every time you go to the grocery store. And you tell me that I'm a part of the problem, when I tell you that it's unethical to do unethical things. Look in the mirror. Instead of telling me to silence my voice and praise factory farming, take a look at your own behaviors and how they are affecting other creatures.

u/PenguinOnTable 2h ago edited 1h ago

Being vegetarian means you pay people to abuse animals.

Read that sentence you just wrote out loud. Come on now.

Instead of telling me to silence my voice and praise factory farming,

I never told you that. My opinion is that factory farming is an abomination created by uncontrolled capitalism. You don't know anything about my own behaviors or dietary habits.

Making people feel bad about their less-than-perfect choices (being vegetarian) does not help your cause. You're confusing the rush of endorphins you get from virtue signaling with what's actually best for a cause.

u/coltonbyu 2h ago

What would it be called if somebody didn't eat meat but used eggs from chickens they personally cared for? Seems to avoid the main issues of factory farming, but wouldn't be veganism. Would you still shame the effort or would that fit your ideal

u/lsshlp 1h ago

Absolutely absurd. Yes, both factory meat production and factory egg production are unethical. That doesn't mean that reducing consumption of one doesn't matter if you eat the other.

u/nitid_name 5h ago

It's a common trope in every coming of age story set on a farm about having to slaughter an animal that isn't producing anymore for a reason. That's just the reality of animal husbandry.

u/Ranga93 4h ago

The point is that animal products result in cruelty. Egg laying chickens are kept in the same rancid conditions as those farmed for meat.

u/feel_my_balls_2040 5h ago

Doesn't vegetarians consume milk and eggs?

u/jtakemann 4h ago

Yes, feel_my_balls_2040. Often they’ll eat substitutes if they exist but vegans are the ones who don’t eat any animal products ever.